POL Pennsylvania Supreme Court Sides with Dems: Mail-In Ballot Deadline Extended 3 Days After Election! NO!!!!!!

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
There goes Pennsylvania, D___it!!!!!
Huge Breaking News! Ballots WILL BE HARVESTED by the Dems and be able to be turned in 3 DAYS AFTER Election Day!!!!


Pennsylvania Supreme Court Sides with Democrats: Mail-In Ballot Deadline Extended 3 Days After Election

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania’s highest court gave the Democratic Party a series of victories Thursday, including one allowing repairs to glitches and gray areas in the battleground state’s fledgling mail-in voting law and another that kicked the Green Party’s presidential candidate off the November ballot.

The state Supreme Court, which has a 5-2 Democratic majority, granted the Democratic Party’s request to order a three-day extension of Pennsylvania’s Election Day deadline to count mailed-in ballots. And it ruled that the Green Party’s candidate for president did not strictly follow procedures for getting on the ballot in November and cannot appear on it.

Ballots that are eligible to be counted must be postmarked by the time polls close and be received by county election boards at 5 p.m. on Nov. 6, three days after the Nov. 3 election. Republicans have opposed changing that deadline.

Most states make Election Day the deadline, but 18 states — about half of which backed President Donald Trump in the 2016 election — have a post-Election Day deadline.

The court’s ruling also authorized the use of satellite election offices and drop boxes by counties.

Areas with heavy concentrations of registered Democratic voters, Philadelphia and its heavily populated suburbs, are planning to use satellite election offices and drop boxes to help relieve the pressure from an avalanche of mailed-in ballots expected in the presidential election.

Republicans had sought to outlaw the use of such drop boxes or satellite election offices, saying they are not explicitly authorized under state law.

In a slightly earlier decision Thursday, the high court along the same partisan lines reversed a ruling by a Republican judge in a lower court on the candidacy of Green Party presidential nominee Howie Hawkins.

The court’s two Republicans agreed the Green Party did not meet the law’s requirements, but, in a dissenting opinion, said it might be possible to allow the Green Party to fix it retroactively.

The Hawkins and Biden campaigns did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Democrats have long gone to court to keep Green Party candidates off the ballot, worried that they will siphon otherwise liberal voters in close contests against Republicans in the politically polarized state.

In this case, Democratic party activists challenged what they said were disqualifying irregularities in how the Green Party filed affidavits for the presidential candidate that is supposed to accompany paperwork with at least 5,000 voter signatures to get on the ballot.

A 2019 state law greatly expanded access to mail-in balloting in Pennsylvania and, fueled by concerns over the pandemic, more than 3 million voters are expected to cast ballots by mail in the Nov. 3 election.

That’s more than 10 times the number who voted by mail in Pennsylvania in 2016′s election, when President Donald Trump’s 44,000-vote victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania helped propel him to the White House.

Polls show a tight race between Trump and Democrat Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. Losing Pennsylvania could prove fatal to Biden’s chances of defeating Trump. No Democrat has won the presidency without winning Pennsylvania since Harry S. Truman in 1948.

The high court’s rulings come as Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, and the Republican-controlled Legislature are at a stalemate over some of the issues, less than seven weeks before the election.

To a great extent, they are clashing over how to prevent vast numbers of ballots from being discarded and how to head off the specter of a presidential election result hanging in limbo on a drawn-out vote count in Pennsylvania.

The court also upheld the state’s poll-watcher law, which Trump’s campaign had sought to invalidate in federal court.

Under that law, poll watchers — a political party-appointed volunteer who sits inside of a polling place to monitor Election Day activity for perceived irregularities — must be a registered voter from the county.

Republicans say they are unable to muster enough poll watchers in Philadelphia, where one in five of Pennsylvania’s Democratic voters live. Democrats charge that lifting the long-standing restriction would open the floodgates to voter intimidation in polling places.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
:gaah:
Trump should appeal this.


PA Supreme Court Sides with Dems: Mail-In Ballot Deadline 3 Days After Election

Pennsylvania Supreme Court Sides with Democrats: Mail-In Ballot Deadline Extended 3 Days After Election

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania’s highest court gave the Democratic Party a series of victories Thursday, including one allowing repairs to glitches and gray areas in the battleground state’s fledgling mail-in voting law and another that kicked the Green Party’s presidential candidate off the November ballot.

The state Supreme Court, which has a 5-2 Democratic majority, granted the Democratic Party’s request to order a three-day extension of Pennsylvania’s Election Day deadline to count mailed-in ballots. And it ruled that the Green Party’s candidate for president did not strictly follow procedures for getting on the ballot in November and cannot appear on it.

Ballots that are eligible to be counted must be postmarked by the time polls close and be received by county election boards at 5 p.m. on Nov. 6, three days after the Nov. 3 election. Republicans have opposed changing that deadline.

Most states make Election Day the deadline, but 18 states — about half of which backed President Donald Trump in the 2016 election — have a post-Election Day deadline.

The court’s ruling also authorized the use of satellite election offices and drop boxes by counties.

Areas with heavy concentrations of registered Democratic voters, Philadelphia and its heavily populated suburbs, are planning to use satellite election offices and drop boxes to help relieve the pressure from an avalanche of mailed-in ballots expected in the presidential election.

Republicans had sought to outlaw the use of such drop boxes or satellite election offices, saying they are not explicitly authorized under state law.

In a slightly earlier decision Thursday, the high court along the same partisan lines reversed a ruling by a Republican judge in a lower court on the candidacy of Green Party presidential nominee Howie Hawkins.

The court’s two Republicans agreed the Green Party did not meet the law’s requirements, but, in a dissenting opinion, said it might be possible to allow the Green Party to fix it retroactively.

The Hawkins and Biden campaigns did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Democrats have long gone to court to keep Green Party candidates off the ballot, worried that they will siphon otherwise liberal voters in close contests against Republicans in the politically polarized state.

In this case, Democratic party activists challenged what they said were disqualifying irregularities in how the Green Party filed affidavits for the presidential candidate that is supposed to accompany paperwork with at least 5,000 voter signatures to get on the ballot.

A 2019 state law greatly expanded access to mail-in balloting in Pennsylvania and, fueled by concerns over the pandemic, more than 3 million voters are expected to cast ballots by mail in the Nov. 3 election.

That’s more than 10 times the number who voted by mail in Pennsylvania in 2016′s election, when President Donald Trump’s 44,000-vote victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania helped propel him to the White House.

Polls show a tight race between Trump and Democrat Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. Losing Pennsylvania could prove fatal to Biden’s chances of defeating Trump. No Democrat has won the presidency without winning Pennsylvania since Harry S. Truman in 1948.

The high court’s rulings come as Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, and the Republican-controlled Legislature are at a stalemate over some of the issues, less than seven weeks before the election.

To a great extent, they are clashing over how to prevent vast numbers of ballots from being discarded and how to head off the specter of a presidential election result hanging in limbo on a drawn-out vote count in Pennsylvania.

The court also upheld the state’s poll-watcher law, which Trump’s campaign had sought to invalidate in federal court.

Under that law, poll watchers — a political party-appointed volunteer who sits inside of a polling place to monitor Election Day activity for perceived irregularities — must be a registered voter from the county.

Republicans say they are unable to muster enough poll watchers in Philadelphia, where one in five of Pennsylvania’s Democratic voters live. Democrats charge that lifting the long-standing restriction would open the floodgates to voter intimidation in polling places.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Potus Trump, just had the possibility of winning in Pennsylvania,
blatantly stolen by the Marxist damocraps.

Nothing can be done now, to stop the incredible hell,
that is going to be visited upon The Deplorables,
once Harris/Biden are in The White House.

A fair election was not possible, it is what it is.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
legislature trumps any court and should overrule this decision
NOW
and take control

US Constitution says state legislature decide on voting rules.

It does not matter now.

Have fought the POS Africans my entire life,
and they will be given carte blanche regarding
the White race, and millions of Whites are
simply going to be genocided, just like they are
in South Africa.

I am going to try and get out of the ZUSA.

Going to The Russian Federation if I can,
most likely Saint Petersburg.

We got six weeks left, that's all.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 
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Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
This needs to be appealed to USSC as violation of the Constitution that the Pennsylvania Legislature has to change the the rules for voting.

Texican....
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I suspect I'm in the minority here in that as long as it is postmarked BEFORE 7 PM Tuesday, Nov 3 I believe it should be counted.
 

RB Martin

Veteran Member
Legislature trumps any court and should overrule this decision
NOW
and take control

US Constitution Article ll says each state's legislature decide on voting rules.
NOT courts.

I just heard Mark Levin giving advice to a Republican member of the PA Legislature how to proceed. He believes a simple resolution restating the Article 2 provisions regarding the legislatures authority and requiring a roll back to status quo before the unconstitutional ruling is all that's needed. Time is of the essence though! They better move quickly!

The lady representative was already going to call their Speaker and some other leader.
 
I just heard Mark Levin giving advise to a Republican member of the PA Legislature how to proceed. He believes a simple resolution restating the Article 2 provisions regarding the legislatures authority and requiring a roll back to status quo before the unconstitutional ruling is all that's needed. Time is of the essence though!
Fire 'em up!!
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I suspect I'm in the minority here in that as long as it is postmarked BEFORE 7 PM Tuesday, Nov 3 I believe it should be counted.

I would agree with the 7pm Nov. 3 deadline.

A line has to drawn somewhere and the current deadline is the most reasonable.

Otherwise, what is to stop some judge, governor, or legislature from moving the deadline again, and again, and again, until a favorable election outcome is achieved?

IIRC, at least in Wisconsin, there used to be a legal convention that election law changes could only be implemented during the -next- election, -not- the upcoming election.
 

Hawkgirl_70

Veteran Member
Is there anyone here from Pennsylvania that can share with us if they think anyone there is going to try and fight this?
I listened to Trump’s almost 2 hrs rally in Wisconsin last night, thousands attended, and he didn’t even mention this either. I dont understand why or what his game plan is, but the cheating should be talked about far and wide and be a top subject mentioned over and over again how they’re stealing this already.
I’m surprised CNN hasn’t already called the state for Biden.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I think you need a bunch more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in your thread title. It’s not nearly hysterical enough.

Just sayin.... :rolleyes:
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I would agree with the 7pm Nov. 3 deadline.

A line has to drawn somewhere and the current deadline is the most reasonable.

Otherwise, what is to stop some judge, governor, or legislature from moving the deadline again, and again, and again, until a favorable election outcome is achieved?

IIRC, at least in Wisconsin, there used to be a legal convention that election law changes could only be implemented during the -next- election, -not- the upcoming election.
But if it is postmarked by 7 pm Nov 3rd, it may still take three or four days to count the votes - now I agree that at the very least that should be the postmark deadline.

However, I don't honestly see how this is going to "work" unless the US States all TOGETHER decide NOT to announce a winner until the counting is done and there should be a deadline on that as well.

Also, I think there has to be a final date - like the following Friday or Monday for votes to be accepted even WITH the postmark (unless a judge decides that intentional delays or a declared disaster were involved in delaying the mail from a region hit by a hurricane or something).

Then the winner is announced as soon as all those existing votes are counted - it would mean a delay and voters hate that, but otherwise, there will be a strong temptation for either party to try and "stuff the votes" if they realize they are about to lose an important State by a narrow margin.

This is also why "The Company" has always loved rigging really "close" elections in targeted third world countries because they could "control" the outcome and have it be believed. Sadly a lot of what I see from a distance is that this US Election is being managed by the same sort of people that trained the author of "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man."
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I would agree with the 7pm Nov. 3 deadline.
Respectfully disagree big time. I've worked for years at the polls in PA. Had to take a two day course each year to keep up with existing and new laws, state and federal on voting procedures.

I've no problem with mail in absentee ballots because they are counted at the home polling place of the voter mailing them. The voter's signature is verified against what is in the books.

The mail in ballots totally bypass voting laws and procedures that have been in place in PA for generations and are specifically designed to prevent voter fraud.
 

Ta-wo-di

Veteran Member
Respectfully disagree big time. I've worked for years at the polls in PA. Had to take a two day course each year to keep up with existing and new laws, state and federal on voting procedures.

I've no problem with mail in absentee ballots because they are counted at the home polling place of the voter mailing them. The voter's signature is verified against what is in the books.

The mail in ballots totally bypass voting laws and procedures that have been in place in PA for generations and are specifically designed to prevent voter fraud.
Have to agree. Anything other than absentee ballots is designed for fraud. Guess I moved from one hell (Maryland) to another (PA)
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Yep...like ND said...it's the postmark that counts.

Still....Thank GOD for the Electoral College system. Our Founders were wise men.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I suspect I'm in the minority here in that as long as it is postmarked BEFORE 7 PM Tuesday, Nov 3 I believe it should be counted.
The postmark date rule makes sense to me. With all the post office changes it makes sense to not hold the voter responsible for a Post Office screw up.
Here in Florida, Trumps voting home, all ballots must be received by election day with the exception of ballots received by military. The military postal service has always been hit or miss.
Also here in Florida a vote by mail voter can go online and check that their ballot has been received and counted.

Lock boxes have been used in Florida for a long time. Makes sense, with all the crap happening at the post office lately. Lock boxes are only located at major polling places, not out in the middle of nowhere. When I voted in the Florida Primary, I returned my and my wifes signed on the envelope mail in ballots to the main polling place. The lock box was at the head of the voter line just before you get to the table where they check your voter registration. The lock box was attended by a regular polling station worker and they made sure the ballot envelopes were signed and watched you drop them in the box. If you want to check on your ballot status, you can go online later and it will show that your ballot has been received.

I don't approve of mass mailing ballots to people who havent requested them. But vote by mail works fine for people that for any reason, don't want to stand in line come election day.

Oh, and I agree with Pennsylvania law that all poll watchers etc. should be from that county. Do not need out of county or even out of state people trying to make trouble at county polling places.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
Are there still hand held postmark stamps, or are they all big machines that can't be hauled out of the post office?
What's to stop some postal employees from postmarking fake/fraudulant ballots at home? Or even IN the post office late at night? Maybe keep an eye on your local post office for late night activity after the election - if you're in a dem controlled area?

I've read on here of mailmen dumping Republican ballots in the trash when they are in a place that shows party affiliation on the envelope...
 
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