CORONA Over half of those diagnosed will develop ‘long COVID’

Troke

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Over half of those diagnosed will develop ‘long COVID’
OCTOBER 14, 2021
by John Anderer

HERSHEY, Pa. — A disturbingly high percentage of people who recover from symptomatic COVID-19 continue to struggle with lingering “long COVID” symptoms for months after the fact. It’s been a worrying trend since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. Now, researchers from Penn State report that over half of the 236 million people with COVID-19 worldwide since the pandemic began since will indeed experience long COVID symptoms.

Study authors warn that governments, doctors, and health care organizations should all prepare themselves for an ever-increasing number of long COVID patients in need of treatment for a variety of physical or psychological symptoms. According to the new report, both adults and children may experience several potential health issues for as long as six months post-recovery.

The team analyzed a total of 57 prior studies focusing on COVID-19 patients during this project, encompassing 250,351 unvaccinated adults and children with COVID-19 between December 2019 and March 2021. Among that entire group, 79 percent ended up needing hospitalization for their infection. Most of those hospital patients lived in high-income nations with an average age of 54 years-old. Researchers assessed each person’s post-COVID health on three occasions: one month after recovery, two to five months afterward, and six or more months later.

Overall, one in two patients dealt with long COVID symptoms. In the vast majority of cases, these symptoms interfered with the individual’s mobility, organ function, or well-being. Most long COVID symptoms persisted for at least six months.

More specifically, over half of all patients reported experiencing weight loss, fatigue, fever, or pain. Another one in five lost mobility and close to one in four had a harder time concentrating after COVID-19. Troublingly, doctors diagnosed close to one in three patients with generalized anxiety disorder after recovering.

Long COVID can continue to affect the lungs and heart

COVID-19 is notorious for attacking the lungs. Six in 10 patients displayed chest imaging abnormalities while over a quarter reported difficulty breathing. As far as heart issues, the most common long COVID complaints were increased chest pain and more frequent heart palpitations. Another 20 percent reported hair loss or the development of a rash. Many others dealt with stomach problems like diarrhea, stomach pain, and lack of appetite.

“These findings confirm what many health care workers and COVID-19 survivors have been claiming, namely, that adverse health effects from COVID-19 can linger,” says co-lead investigator Vernon Chinchilli, chair of the Department of Public Health Sciences, in a university release. “Although previous studies have examined the prevalence of long COVID symptoms among patients, this study examined a larger population, including people in high-, middle- and low-income countries, and examined many more symptoms. Therefore, we believe our findings are quite robust given the available data.”

“The burden of poor health in COVID-19 survivors is overwhelming,” adds co-lead investigator Dr. Paddy Ssentongo, assistant professor at the Penn State Center for Neural Engineering. “Among these are the mental health disorders. One’s battle with COVID doesn’t end with recovery from the acute infection. Vaccination is our best ally to prevent getting sick from COVID-19 and to reduce the chance of long-COVID even in the presence of a breakthrough infection.”

What’s causing these lingering symptoms?
Unfortunately, scientists are still uncertain as to what exactly is causing long COVID. The immune system entering “overdrive,” lingering infection, increased production of autoantibodies, and reinfection are all possibilities at this point. Since SARS-CoV-2 is capable of entering the nervous system, symptoms including loss of taste or smell, memory decline, and concentration issues are all common among COVID-19 survivors.

“Our study was not designed to confirm COVID-19 as the sole cause of these symptoms. It is plausible that symptoms reported by patients in some of the studies examined were due to some other causes,” Dr. Ssentongo notes.

Study authors add early intervention and treatment is going to be essential to helping long COVID patients maintain a certain quality of life. Doctors should be prepared for an influx of new patients complaining of issues they had never experienced prior to COVID and, at this point in the pandemic, health care facilities should be prepared to identify and treat long COVID symptoms.

“Since survivors may not have the energy or resources to go back and forth to their health care providers, one-stop clinics will be critical to effectively and efficiently manage patients with long COVID,” Dr. Ssentongo concludes. “Such clinics could reduce medical costs and optimize access to care, especially in populations with historically larger health care disparities.”
 

Kathy in FL

TB Fanatic
for a variety of physical or psychological symptoms. According to the new report, both adults and children may experience several potential health issues for as long as six months post-recovery.

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No kidding. I think that is the primary symptom in some people. Every single one that I've met that had a "serious" case of covid19 act like they are going to have a lifetime problem with PTSD. There are some people with legitimate neurological issues after infection but some of the psychological ones aren't being addressed in a healthy way, more like they are being encouraged to exhibit symptoms and most of that is fear-based.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Over half of those diagnosed will develop ‘long COVID’
And the rest will die.

ETA - No no no - I was just picking on Troke again for his endless fearmongering over COVID . COVID is only fatal to a tiny percentage (or even a fractional percentage) of those infected by it, even if it does long term serious damage to some of its victims.
 
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et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I had it in January 2020. Still having issues from it. Some days the tired just hits hard. Most days getting motivated to start the day is terrible. Concentration at times and heart palpitations. Well after six months.

This isn’t going away. And the vaccine won’t stop it either. I think as you become more exposed to this in public it just builds up in you. Future health issues are going to be enormous from this.

Human augmentation
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
And the rest will die.

ETA - No no no - I was just picking on Troke again for his endless fearmongering over COVID . COVID is only fatal to a tiny percentage (or even a fractional percentage) of those infected by it, even if it does long term serious damage to some of its victims.
Yup, only kills a few but some of the survivors start wishing they hadn't.

I started ranting about this about 18 months ago when I found that it kills you by killing an organ like lungs. So what if it only half kills the organ and you survive. I think some are finding out.

I realize that many on this forum think that Covid ain't much shucks. Some of them are in for an awful shock. So I take delight in posting that Covid is some thing best avoided.

The Bad News is that I think everybody is eventually going to get it. The only question is how bad.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie
I get the feeling that Troke isn't aware of the post-COVID Frontline Doctor suggestions. They are on the I-MAST sheet that others keep positing. Maybe someone else can post it. I don't have a copy of it.

Added: Go here. Post #41
 
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psychgirl

Veteran Member
Yup, only kills a few but some of the survivors start wishing they hadn't.

I started ranting about this about 18 months ago when I found that it kills you by killing an organ like lungs. So what if it only half kills the organ and you survive. I think some are finding out.

I realize that many on this forum think that Covid ain't much shucks. Some of them are in for an awful shock. So I take delight in posting that Covid is some thing best avoided.

The Bad News is that I think everybody is eventually going to get it. The only question is how bad.
Oh omgosh! That’s kind of rough!
 

mikeho78

Contributing Member
I had it in July and the worst/best part was the loss of smell and taste. I managed to drop 20lb simply because the only purpose for food at that point was strictly sustenance.
When my smell and taste returned however, for a good week or two it still had to "readjust." Certain colognes I used to love smelled acrid and some food tasted "off" like it was burnt or cooked in a pan that had soapy residue or something.
It went away and I never gave it a second thought until this past week when there was a lingering burning smell everywhere I went. I hadn't thought about it until I read this thread and am guessing it was a remnant of the rona which creeps the shit out of me to be honest.
And yes, I put the 20 lbs back on. I love food too much.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And the rest will die.

ETA - No no no - I was just picking on Troke again for his endless fearmongering over COVID . COVID is only fatal to a tiny percentage (or even a fractional percentage) of those infected by it, even if it does long term serious damage to some of its victims.

I don’t understand why you’re always jumping on Troke. (Others do as well.) I don’t think Troke is fear mongering. There’s plenty of that in the media 24/7. Troke posts the “other side,” you know, like we all advocate in any serious discussion. Like we learned to do in junior high and beyond. Don’t agree? Debate.

What am I missing?
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
What am I missing?
Troke and the whole MSM/government medical complex on one side.

L'il ol' me on the other?

Troke is old enough to act with SOME common sense, I would think. All this hair-on-fire ranting from him every time the teevee says COVID ....

I should maybe put him on IGNORE?
 

Mary Contrary

Veteran Member
I had shortness of breath for at least 6 months after getting it. Even at rest if I took in a deep breath I had the sensation of
needing to cough. There is no doubt in my mind that it's a man made bio-weapon.
my old mechanic friend had covid in Jan and 3 weeks ago he started having trouble breathing. Went to hospital they couldn't find anything. Still had trouble, but after a couple weeks it cleared up mostly. He says it only acts up when he's doing hard labor.
Also, I'm half-vaxxed with Moderna after the fact. I can't bring myself to get the second shot
good for you! Don't do it!
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
I had it in July and the worst/best part was the loss of smell and taste. I managed to drop 20lb simply because the only purpose for food at that point was strictly sustenance.
When my smell and taste returned however, for a good week or two it still had to "readjust." Certain colognes I used to love smelled acrid and some food tasted "off" like it was burnt or cooked in a pan that had soapy residue or something.
It went away and I never gave it a second thought until this past week when there was a lingering burning smell everywhere I went. I hadn't thought about it until I read this thread and am guessing it was a remnant of the rona which creeps the shit out of me to be honest.
And yes, I put the 20 lbs back on. I love food too much.
Although from a different cause, I have had substantially the same effects including weird smells and tastes. Luckily, I am not food oriented so lost no weight and gained none. But it does make meals less enjoyable.

For somebody who really enjoys food, it has to be a living Hell.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
My 27 year old Son, is three weeks into his recovery from Covid. He is describing symptoms like in the OP. He's back at work, but said his brain isn't working right. His wife got the Vaxx some time back, but still got a breakthrough case of Covid from him.

My Sister in Law got her first Vaxx shot a few weeks ago, but said she won't get the second, due to a bad reaction from the first. My Brother didn't elaborate on the bad reaction.
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
I had it in July and the worst/best part was the loss of smell and taste. I managed to drop 20lb simply because the only purpose for food at that point was strictly sustenance.
When my smell and taste returned however, for a good week or two it still had to "readjust." Certain colognes I used to love smelled acrid and some food tasted "off" like it was burnt or cooked in a pan that had soapy residue or something.
It went away and I never gave it a second thought until this past week when there was a lingering burning smell everywhere I went. I hadn't thought about it until I read this thread and am guessing it was a remnant of the rona which creeps the shit out of me to be honest.
And yes, I put the 20 lbs back on. I love food too much.
This post!!!

Ok, this is hard to explain, but here goes.... I was exposed to Covid several times and always in intimate work setting. Up close, daily exposure, from four separate co workers, one who became very ill.
I’ve tested negative. The second test I was just SURE mine would be positive because that week I felt really bad but never had fever...
On and off ever since then, I’ve felt sickly a few times.

Then, this past week or two, have felt on the verge of, or having in progress and cold bug...in fact, it got really bad on Thursday, Friday I left work early. I took a home test this time, on Friday night which again, was negative.
The “smell” in my nose of smoke/cigar was just terrible.

several weeks I’ve been getting angry at hub, asking that he please stop smoking a cigar in the house after I go to bed,

The burning smokesmell was waking me up and I can still smell it in the house.

A constant “aura” of lingering smoke odor was to the point of making me nauseous.

He swears he hasn’t been doing that! I don’t believe he’s telling me a fib.
He has in the past, sat on the back porch smoking one and said he’s cracked the screen door to listen to talk radio so the smoke got drawn in but has not done that in quite awhile...
I’ve been in bed basically since Friday not feeling well with a cold, and a pounding headache.

I’m beginning to really wonder now after reading your post. But how could I have tested negative theee separate times??
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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This post!!!

Ok, this is hard to explain, but here goes.... I was exposed to Covid several times and always in intimate work setting. Up close, daily exposure, from four separate co workers, one who became very ill.
I’ve tested negative. The second test I was just SURE mine would be positive because that week I felt really bad but never had fever...
On and off ever since then, I’ve felt sickly a few times.

Then, this past week or two, have felt on the verge of, or having in progress and cold bug...in fact, it got really bad on Thursday, Friday I left work early. I took a home test this time, on Friday night which again, was negative.
The “smell” in my nose of smoke/cigar was just terrible.

several weeks I’ve been getting angry at hub, asking that he please stop smoking a cigar in the house after I go to bed,

The burning smokesmell was waking me up and I can still smell it in the house.

A constant “aura” of lingering smoke odor was to the point of making me nauseous.

He swears he hasn’t been doing that! I don’t believe he’s telling me a fib.
He has in the past, sat on the back porch smoking one and said he’s cracked the screen door to listen to talk radio so the smoke got drawn in but has not done that in quite awhile...
I’ve been in bed basically since Friday not feeling well with a cold, and a pounding headache.

I’m beginning to really wonder now after reading your post. But how could I have tested negative theee separate times??
Start IVM now.

Don't trust the tests.
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
Start IVM now.

Don't trust the tests.
I know, but this isn’t a new thing! World t I just be wasting the paste if infection has been after a certain amount of time?

(Those positive cases I talked about were over a year ago btw... I guess I’m thinking about long term effects of the virus)
 

mikeho78

Contributing Member
This post!!!

Ok, this is hard to explain, but here goes.... I was exposed to Covid several times and always in intimate work setting. Up close, daily exposure, from four separate co workers, one who became very ill.
I’ve tested negative. The second test I was just SURE mine would be positive because that week I felt really bad but never had fever...
On and off ever since then, I’ve felt sickly a few times.

Then, this past week or two, have felt on the verge of, or having in progress and cold bug...in fact, it got really bad on Thursday, Friday I left work early. I took a home test this time, on Friday night which again, was negative.
The “smell” in my nose of smoke/cigar was just terrible.

several weeks I’ve been getting angry at hub, asking that he please stop smoking a cigar in the house after I go to bed,

The burning smokesmell was waking me up and I can still smell it in the house.

A constant “aura” of lingering smoke odor was to the point of making me nauseous.

He swears he hasn’t been doing that! I don’t believe he’s telling me a fib.
He has in the past, sat on the back porch smoking one and said he’s cracked the screen door to listen to talk radio so the smoke got drawn in but has not done that in quite awhile...
I’ve been in bed basically since Friday not feeling well with a cold, and a pounding headache.

I’m beginning to really wonder now after reading your post. But how could I have tested negative theee separate times??
When I tested positive, it was unmistakable. The line came in dark and thick. A few days later, it was gone when I retook. (Those tests are annoyingly expensive). I'd wager that you did actually have it, but your body took care of it and you only get negative results now. (I'm O+, so I think that helped). And yes, there was a day last week where I thought there was dust burning in our AC vents because of the smell (it's funny how we'll rationalize that situation over a disease screwing up how the receptors in our nose communicate with our brain).
 

mikeho78

Contributing Member
Although from a different cause, I have had substantially the same effects including weird smells and tastes. Luckily, I am not food oriented so lost no weight and gained none. But it does make meals less enjoyable.

For somebody who really enjoys food, it has to be a living Hell.
Not smelling or tasting got pretty old quickly for me. Taking a shower was even less enjoyable. It's amazing what our senses do for us and it's so difficult to imagine others sensing things differently than we do. When I taught 5th I loved explaining to them that roosters crow before sunrise because they see the infrared portion of the spectrum whereas we do not. Then my kiddo responded that they see like "Predator" which I couldn't argue against it. I just pray I was accurate in my statement because I don't know if I ever verified it.
 
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