GOV/MIL Oregon Law Takes Effect Requiring Guns to Be Locked in the Home

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Oregon Law Takes Effect Requiring Guns to Be Locked in the Home

AWR Hawkins2-2 minutes 9/26/2021

A new law took effect in Oregon Saturday requiring guns to be locked and/or securely stored when in the home.

On April 19, 2021, the Associated Press reported the Oregon legislature was considering the gun lock bill and noted it “would be among the toughest in the U.S.”

As the bill was being considered, opponents of gun lock requirements testified of having loved one’s who had needed a gun for self-defense but who were unable to access their firearm because it was locked. They quoted Jim Mischel, of Sheridan, Oregon, who said he was wife was home alone one night, heard strange noises and went to the nightstand to retrieve a pistol from a “locked gun box.”

He said the alleged intruder found his wife before she was able to get her gun from the box.

Mischel said, “She was unable to get the box unlocked and the pistol out before he got into the bedroom and threatened her with his gun. She has never recovered.”

On June 1, 2021, the AP noted the legislation, SB 554, had been passed by the legislature and signed by Gov. Kate Brown (D). The AP observed that SB 554 requires “that firearms be secured with a trigger or cable lock, in a locked container or gun room.”

KEZI explained that SB 554 took effect on Saturday.

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Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Depends on the wording but generally its an attemp to create paper crimes (theOregonian Leg has been in contact w/ their Socialist friends to the North).
There are several cases in the news about children finding loaded firearms and tragic outcomes. If its to try to prevent that, OK.
If we're at home, we both have ready access to sidearms just like when we leave the house. If this is written to infringe on one's right to self defense, its an issue to be challenged.
 

tech

Veteran Member
There are several cases in the news about children finding loaded firearms and tragic outcomes. If its to try to prevent that, OK.
NO IT ISN'T OK
Parents have a responsibility for their children, not the government. Yes, tragedies happen, but the blame falls 100% on the parents. Not educating a child or taking responsibility for not securing a weapon where a child is not trained is the failure of the parent...but it still does not authorize a government intrusion.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
The law is more socialist anti normal people law.

Notice how it doesn’t touch thug BLM or Antifa protestors. Course that doesn’t really matter because Soro’s backed prosecutors would let them go no matter what they do.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Not everyone has kids, it's none of their business anyway, and how are they going to enforce it?
Like I said; a paper crime. Something to add to the charge sheet as a throw away in plea negotiations.
And your right about 'not their business' except gov always wants to be seen as 'doing something' about an issue.
Usually, those steps don't address the root cause &/or are grossly over reaching.....
 
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Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
NO IT ISN'T OK
Parents have a responsibility for their children, not the government. Yes, tragedies happen, but the blame falls 100% on the parents. Not educating a child or taking responsibility for not securing a weapon where a child is not trained is the failure of the parent...but it still does not authorize a government intrusion.
Your right about educating a child in proper handling/usage is a parent's responsibility as is securing firearms when the untrained might have access.

I'm willing to bet that's not an issue in the homes of almost every TB2K. In other groups, probably not.

Like I said; a paper charge to add to a charge sheet and thrown out in plea bargaining. Old socialist ploy, when they're pretending to be reasonable. Watch that change to a 'firmer' approach when they're secure in power.
 

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
NO IT ISN'T OK
Parents have a responsibility for their children, not the government. Yes, tragedies happen, but the blame falls 100% on the parents. Not educating a child or taking responsibility for not securing a weapon where a child is not trained is the failure of the parent...but it still does not authorize a government intrusion.
LMAO! The gangbangers in the congo leave their stuff within children's reach daily! A sensible man believes all firearms are loaded and dangerous and NO GOOD to you unless they are and within reach.

My point. There are no parents in the hood. They're all parasites blaming things on their circumstances. It's always going to be the parent's fault. But where are they? Nowhere to be found.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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There are several cases in the news about children finding loaded firearms and tragic outcomes. If its to try to prevent that, OK.
Here’s where you being a Canadian steps on your perspective. There are current laws on the books against child endangerment. Leaving a loaded gun where a child can get it clearly falls under them. Passing yet more anti-gun laws is not the answer. Something you might not know since you’re not a US citizen: in aggregate, there are about 24,000 gun laws in this country, far more by orders of magnitude than for any other consumer product in this country. Further, the argument “If it saves just one child’s life” is specious.

There are thousands of products that can injure or kill children. Everything from a scooter to a circular saw. Kids have also been injured or killed from alcohol left “unlocked” by the parents. What about kitchen knives? Water glasses? A stove? Seriously, the list is endless. And yet, no laws are being passed against those items being left unsecured. No, the reason for more gun laws is that anti-gunners want them all gone (except for criminals, who are exempt from all the laws.)

So no, it’s not okay. It will never be okay.
 

fish hook

Deceased
Depends on the wording but generally its an attemp to create paper crimes (theOregonian Leg has been in contact w/ their Socialist friends to the North).
There are several cases in the news about children finding loaded firearms and tragic outcomes. If its to try to prevent that, OK.
If we're at home, we both have ready access to sidearms just like when we leave the house. If this is written to infringe on one's right to self defense, its an issue to be challenged.
Liberal Politicians did this, and you have to wonder if their intent was to infringe your rights?
 

vestige

Deceased
Here’s where you being a Canadian steps on your perspective. There are current laws on the books against child endangerment. Leaving a loaded gun where a child can get it clearly falls under them. Passing yet more anti-gun laws is not the answer. Something you might not know since you’re not a US citizen: in aggregate, there are about 24,000 gun laws in this country, far more by orders of magnitude than for any other consumer product in this country. Further, the argument “If it saves just one child’s life” is specious.

There are thousands of products that can injure or kill children. Everything from a scooter to a circular saw. Kids have also been injured or killed from alcohol left “unlocked” by the parents. What about kitchen knives? Water glasses? A stove? Seriously, the list is endless. And yet, no laws are being passed against those items being left unsecured. No, the reason for more gun laws is that anti-gunners want them all gone (except for criminals, who are exempt from all the laws.)

So no, it’s not okay. It will never be okay.
Nice post for a Curmudgeon.
I am proud to know you.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Liberal Politicians did this, and you have to wonder if their intent was to infringe your rights?
There was never any doubt in my mind ...I spell it Lieberal' BTW.
Remember, there are no 'rights' in Canada as there are here; The Constitution of Canada (1867,1982 ) and Cdn Charter of Rights & Freedoms (1982) were crafted by grey people, first in the UK & later, Canada, looking after the socialisation of Canada, not citizen rights.
The basic difference is the 13 Colonies won the right for the framers to formulate your Constitution and entrench rights, then modify the document as required and time passed.

Rights won by steel & paid for in blood are rights.
What Canadians have are privileges, at the whim of the grey people and the elected.
A sad state of affairs, to be sure.

In this case, like most socialist regulations about firearms ownership/usage, this would not address the real issues about firearms. They never do. The issue isn't responsible usage it really about crime & violence against people.
The Socialist plan is all about demonising objects and making people afraid to the point where they start to believe the crap about 'you'll all be safer if we can just do something about those evil guns'.

They preached that BS in the Commonwealth and pretty much disarmed most of those people. Canada is next on the list.

I imagine its similar here but in Canuckistan there's more laws & penalties relating to firearms then pretty much any other item you can name. That's where that 'Paper Crimes' thing comes from.

In any event, there's no intent on my part to make it seem like I support restrictions of any kind relative to 2A. The amendment is pretty clear in its intent to me.
 

fish hook

Deceased
There was never any doubt in my mind ...I spell it Lieberal' BTW.
Remember, there are no 'rights' in Canada as there are here; The Constitution of Canada (1867,1982 ) and Cdn Charter of Rights & Freedoms (1982) were crafted by grey people, first in the UK & later, Canada, looking after the socialisation of Canada, not citizen rights.
The basic difference is the 13 Colonies won the right for the framers to formulate your Constitution and entrench rights, then modify the document as required and time passed.

Rights won by steel & paid for in blood are rights.
What Canadians have are privileges, at the whim of the grey people and the elected.
A sad state of affairs, to be sure.

In this case, like most socialist regulations about firearms ownership/usage, this would not address the real issues about firearms. They never do. The issue isn't responsible usage it really about crime & violence against people.
The Socialist plan is all about demonising objects and making people afraid to the point where they start to believe the crap about 'you'll all be safer if we can just do something about those evil guns'.

They preached that BS in the Commonwealth and pretty much disarmed most of those people. Canada is next on the list.

I imagine its similar here but in Canuckistan there's more laws & penalties relating to firearms then pretty much any other item you can name. That's where that 'Paper Crimes' thing comes from.

In any event, there's no intent on my part to make it seem like I support restrictions of any kind relative to 2A. The amendment is pretty clear in its intent to me.
There was never any doubt in my mind ...I spell it Lieberal' BTW.
Remember, there are no 'rights' in Canada as there are here; The Constitution of Canada (1867,1982 ) and Cdn Charter of Rights & Freedoms (1982) were crafted by grey people, first in the UK & later, Canada, looking after the socialisation of Canada, not citizen rights.
The basic difference is the 13 Colonies won the right for the framers to formulate your Constitution and entrench rights, then modify the document as required and time passed.

Rights won by steel & paid for in blood are rights.
What Canadians have are privileges, at the whim of the grey people and the elected.
A sad state of affairs, to be sure.

In this case, like most socialist regulations about firearms ownership/usage, this would not address the real issues about firearms. They never do. The issue isn't responsible usage it really about crime & violence against people.
The Socialist plan is all about demonising objects and making people afraid to the point where they start to believe the crap about 'you'll all be safer if we can just do something about those evil guns'.

They preached that BS in the Commonwealth and pretty much disarmed most of those people. Canada is next on the list.

I imagine its similar here but in Canuckistan there's more laws & penalties relating to firearms then pretty much any other item you can name. That's where that 'Paper Crimes' thing comes from.

In any event, there's no intent on my part to make it seem like I support restrictions of any kind relative to 2A. The amendment is pretty clear in its intent to me.
If Americans stay asleep it will soon be like that here.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Yeah...remember that ?

They have done nothing but, slow but sure...ya know why?

We let them.
Yeah Socialists are masters of 'creeping change'.

They go slow, with little 'sensible' steps, 'to keep everyone safe' then another & another. They move like a constrictor, swallowing slowly but always swallowing.

I could bore you with how it all worked in Canada over about 75-80 years but, JB & Co seem to have read the manual and looks committed to the plan and very willing to give a demonstration..
Just a thought but I think the strategy might be to get small things in place like this 'little change' and over time try to work it or similar into firearms related law in as many states as they can; they hope to ease as much of this as they can into place, so more of the population gets slowly accustomed to 'gentle oversight'.

They didn't have to do that in Canada as there's no 2A or similar there and, alll laws concerning Firearms are Federal. Provinces/Territories may pass local laws but the they can't relax any of the Federal limitations. A couple of Provinces have tightened up the Federal ones and now the Feds are working hard to get all jurisdictions to follow suit.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
It's time to think outside of the box as well as to reach back a bit into the catalog....as an example I saw an interesting video not that long ago on the Haitian martial art of the lowly machete.....

Here are the videos.....

HEMA Guy Comments on Zulu Stick Fighting & Haitian Machete Fencing
RT 19:10
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-egvv89xpRc


What I Didn't Know: HAMA Instructor Talks Haitian Machete Fighting
RT 23:21
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQvejaoe8I
 
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