FASCISM Oregon Ballot Initiative to Ban Hunting, Fishing Unofficially Achieves Signature Threshold

babysteps

Veteran Member
Is it posable that someone used AI to pull this off?

They've been trying for quite a few years to get enough signatures to put this on the ballot. Every year or other year, they've gotten closer. This year, it looks like they got it.

And the thing is, the group pushing this has said repeatedly that they don't expect it to pass the first time.

But they're gonna keep trying. And keep trying. And eventually I expect they'll get enough portlandia idjits convinced that THOSE POOR DOE EYED BABYYYYYS NEED PROTECTING FROM THE MEANIE HEAD HUNTERS!!! and they'll pass it.

There really are no limits on stupidity. :(
 

CaryC

TB Fanatic
Ya gotta be kidding........I know she's thick, but did she really say that?...............
Well, actually several articles says it's fake news but was in a fabricated article about the farmers in the EU protesting. Like I said this stuff never goes away. But on the other hand, it just sounds so AOCie doesn't it.

So let's keep it. I mean after al, her ilk thinks men can have babies.
 

robolast

Veteran Member

Oregon Ballot Initiative to Ban Hunting, Fishing Unofficially Achieves Signature Threshold​

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AWR Hawkins26 May 2026417

Oregon Initiative Petition 28 (IP 28) unofficially reached the signature threshold last week to be on the November 2026 ballot, according to KATU.
On February 16, 2026, Breitbart News noted that IP 28 was being pushed.
On February 15, 2026, KOIN reported the petition’s official name as the People for the Elimination of Animal Cruelty Exemptions (PEACE) Act.
The Act “would change the current Oregon animal cruelty laws, which currently protect pets such as dogs and cats, and would expand coverage to wild animals, livestock and animals used in research.”
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Petition proponent David Michelson said:

KATU explained that IP 28 “would make it illegal to injure or kill animals and would effectively ban hunting, fishing and the breeding of animals.”
Petition proponents appear to have the necessary signatures to get IP 28 on the ballot, although the signatures must still be verified by the office of Oregon’s Secretary of State.

This is BS
 

West

Senior
Really this is and was bound to happen.

When you got the PTB government dictating everything from wages, payroll liabilities, taxes on everything, and giving out free phones, food, housing and medical/health care, etc...

Eventually our God giving freedoms and traditions will have to go.

Its a no brainer.
 

CaryC

TB Fanatic
Really this is and was bound to happen.

When you got the PTB government dictating everything from wages, payroll liabilities, taxes on everything, and giving out free phones, food, housing and medical/health care, etc...

Eventually our God giving freedoms and traditions will have to go.

Its a no brainer.
Don't forget teeth. The mayor of LA in a bid for re-election is giving away free teeth to meth heads.
 

GB Appling

Senior Member
It's our duty to resist tyranny.
I truly don't GAF what the tyrants say they will not get between me and my food. Some people don't shop at the grocery store.
Suppressors, subsonic rounds and crossbow sales ought to go through the roof. :wvflg:
 

colonel holman

Administrator
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Wasn’t there a post last years that they want to dictate to beef farmers to give ttheir animals four years of life before butchering them? Of course that would bankrupt them to feed the animals for three extra years without cashing out the investment… the true objective. More humane to import our beef, supposedly
 

colonel holman

Administrator
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It's our duty to resist tyranny.
I truly don't GAF what the tyrants say they will not get between me and my food. Some people don't shop at the grocery store.
Suppressors, subsonic rounds and crossbow sales ought to go through the roof. :wvflg:
Maine passed a Constitutional right to food… barring laws that inhibit gardening, hunting, fishing obstruction.
Stopped towns from banning yard chickens and livestock, rules coming from newly-transplanted homeowners from enacting NY-Mass rules.
 

Bud in Fla

Veteran Member
I haven't read every comment made so it's probably already been suggested but if it's illegal to kill animals in the state, it should also be illegal for anyone to import any animals or parts of animals that have been killed for meat elsewhere.
Convince them plants have feeling, too and maybe the liberals will starve themselves to death - we can hope!

The idiots will have to leave the state to buy a hamburger!
 

West

Senior
In southern Oregon and extream N. California, the land is about 90% government forest, BLM, state, or FruitGrowers and Southern Pacific R.R. land. Plus others. But only about 10% is privately owned by individuals.

The Fruit Growers and P.R.R land and alike is supposed to be maintained/developed by those corporations for public use. And of course there not.

That being said, that area used to provide millions and millions of dollars of tax receipts and jobs for over a million of people. Plus farmers could lease these lands to let there cows graze and mature in the AO. Called free range cattle and in a sense they was but regulated and leased to lucky ranchers who got the leases. But again those leases are now mostly gone to save the fish! And again millions of dollars of taxes lost and cheaper beef.

Anyway they mostly killed the fire suppression, logging and replanting(tree farms), saw mills, paper mills and even ethanol gas producers, cheap beef, etc... Thank you Spotted Owl, and fish.

Anyway, the destruction started in earnest in the early 90s and the forests where healthier and excess able as well as the wildlife and fish where managed bettter much better than now and much healthier than now.

But the wolves and mountain lions are in good health and even over populated for the AO.

Let it all burn now.
 

Big Kahuna

Contributing Member
Democrats………
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Well...... they didn't say where you had to release them at least, so how about into a bucket of water to drown? Not as humane as an instant kill, but hey, you complied with the idiotic law. Either that or they all get rounded up and released in Portland for the morons so concerned about their welfare to enjoy their company!
Idiotic. The key word. Idiots don't know they're idiots. So ,they keep on being IDIOTS. Certainly apply s here. And don't worry about the economy in Oregon. There won't be one.
 

undead

Veteran Member
if you live in Oregon and are not saying anything about this to your neighbors and community leaders, politicians, they you are ignorant and part of the problem
 

Big Kahuna

Contributing Member
I haven't read every comment made so it's probably already been suggested but if it's illegal to kill animals in the state, it should also be illegal for anyone to import any animals or parts of animals that have been killed for meat elsewhere.
Convince them plants have feeling, too and maybe the liberals will starve themselves to death - we can hope!

The idiots will have to leave the state to buy a hamburger!
Don't tell me it's painless to cut off that head of cabbage. Or lettuce. Y'all, this is as ugly as death riding a honeybun. It would devastate the economy.
 

KFhunter

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How are the TRIBES likely to handle a fishing ban??

The state has no power over the tribes. They fight battles in federal courts and typically the tribes win as the lawsuits are cozy lawsuits in a lot of cases.

Cozy lawsuits means the outcome is intentional “we can’t pass it as a rule so we’ll go to court and intentionally loose so it becomes law”

The state can only do enforcement on tribal members in areas off tribal lands, and off areas where tribes enjoy “in common use” with non-tribal people IE: public lands. So basically only on non-tribal private property or developed public lands not adjacent to tribal lands
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Maine passed a Constitutional right to food… barring laws that inhibit gardening, hunting, fishing obstruction.
Stopped towns from banning yard chickens and livestock, rules coming from newly-transplanted homeowners from enacting NY-Mass rules.
just yesterday 3 of my roosters took a trip to somebody else's place.

I had too many roosters and the girls were all hiding in the nest boxes.

down to 1 roo now.

hopefully, the girls will get a breather
 

Bud in Fla

Veteran Member
Don't tell me it's painless to cut off that head of cabbage. Or lettuce. Y'all, this is as ugly as death riding a honeybun. It would devastate the economy.

I heard a similar phrase growing up in SC - "looked as bad a death sittin' on a tombstone eatin' an onion sandwich".
 

Burt Gummer

Veteran Member
Eliminating hunting and fishing that has game limits and where biologist have studied the animals and their population etc... is akin to not having controlled burns in heavily timbered areas to prevent terrible forest fires that destroy neighborhoods-like in LA. And I'm not gonna debate this cause if you don't understand then you aren't gonna understand.
 

West

Senior
Eliminating hunting and fishing that has game limits and where biologist have studied the animals and their population etc... is akin to not having controlled burns in heavily timbered areas to prevent terrible forest fires that destroy neighborhoods-like in LA. And I'm not gonna debate this cause if you don't understand then you aren't gonna understand.
The best caretakers and professional wildlife environmentalists managers. Use and harvest off the lands. While protecting wildlife and forests as well.

Their livelihoods depend on it.

You know. Posted for newbies or lurkers.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just to be clear, even the supporters of the referendum don't expect it to pass. In Oregon, politics is interchangeable with PR. The legislature will pass laws that they know perfectly well are unconstitutional and will be overturned, but they routinely do it anyway because they can then say, "See? We care deeply about this issue and we did something about it!"
 

DryCreek

Veteran Member
Just to be clear, even the supporters of the referendum don't expect it to pass. In Oregon, politics is interchangeable with PR. The legislature will pass laws that they know perfectly well are unconstitutional and will be overturned, but they routinely do it anyway because they can then say, "See? We care deeply about this issue and we did something about it!"
The only cure for PR stunt legislation is to let the initiative pass. Once they've lived with the silliness, maybe they'll regret their grandstanding.
 

CaryC

TB Fanatic
The only cure for PR stunt legislation is to let the initiative pass. Once they've lived with the silliness, maybe they'll regret their grandstanding.
While I would really like to agree with that....

I am of the opinion that they never learn and will double down, with legislation making it illegal to even eat meat.
 

DryCreek

Veteran Member
While I would really like to agree with that....

I am of the opinion that they never learn and will double down, with legislation making it illegal to even eat meat.
Works for me. Then the last of the "hanger-ons" leave and it's like the insane self-isolating. The sane folks don't need to live within the walls of the insane asylum any longer. Be free.

It kind of reminds me of a surprise fire drill the NRC ran on us one night. As I entered the area with my two-man hose team, they waved towels at us and simulated that the fire was too hot even for us with SCBA and bunker gear. I backed my team out and closed the three-hour rated fire door on the space. There was another person in the background that I ignored. At the debrief the NRC inspector asked me (Fire brigade Leader) what I should have done about the simulated arsonist in the background. I told him "Well, it's his fire now, he started it". "If it's too hot for us with protective gear in there, there sure ain't much more damage he can do before he's dead anyway". That inspector thought about it for a second and then burst out laughing. I guess we were the only fire party that didn't try to hose the guy down with a straight stream and try other heroic bullshit options.
 

babysteps

Veteran Member
The only cure for PR stunt legislation is to let the initiative pass. Once they've lived with the silliness, maybe they'll regret their grandstanding.
My preference would be to send all the idjits who like this idea to a singular location, preferably somewhere like Antarctica or the Sahara Desert, so those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together can stay in our breathtakingly beautiful Oregon, thanks anyway :lol:
 

Shep

Contributing Member
Wait until they realize this!


A recent study has revealed that plants emit sounds kind of like “screams” when their under stress, such as when there being harvested.

This discovery challenges our understanding of the plant world and has significant implications for both science and agriculture.

Plants & Their Secret Language​

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Scientists have been exploring all the different ways plants interact with there environment for years now. But the idea that they might actually produce sounds when their stressed out? Thats totally revolutionary.


The study was done by researchers at Tel Aviv University, and they used some pretty advanced acoustic equipment to pick up on these high-pitched noises that we cant even hear.

When plants got cut or didn’t get enough water, they made these distinct clicking sounds. These sounds were somewhere between 20 and 100 kilohertz, which suggests that maybe plants have there own way of communicating that were just starting to figure out.


Why Do Plants ‘Scream’?​

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Plant sounds aren’t just random noises though; they actually carry specific information. Evolutionary biologist Lilach Hadany explains that these sounds could be how plants signal that their in distress to whatever’s around them.

Animals, insects, and maybe even other plants might respond to these acoustic signals. This interaction shows there’s this complex, hidden network of communication happening in nature thats facilitated by sound, kind of like how humans and animals use vocalizations to get messages across.

The Implications for Agriculture​

Plants 'Scream' When Harvested, According to New Research - woman researching for plants ss2410838649

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Understanding that plants emit distress sounds could totally transform how we do agriculture. Farmers might one day use acoustic sensors to monitor their crops health, detecting stress signals early so they can deal with issues like drought or pest problems before they cause too much damage.

This technology could lead to more sustainable farming methods and improve crop yields by making sure plants get the best care throughout there growth cycles.

Machine learning algorithms have already been developed to tell the difference between different types of stress, like dehydration and physical damage, and their pretty accurate at it. (ref)


Ethical Considerations & Future Research​

Plants 'Scream' When Harvested, According to New Research - male scientist ss1919496377

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The idea that plants can ‘scream’ when their harmed raises some ethical questions about how we treat living organisms. While plants dont have nervous systems or feelings like animals do, this discovery adds another layer of complexity to our relationship with nature.

Future research is gonna focus on decoding these plant sounds and understanding how other organisms interpret them. This knowledge could lead to innovations in how we interact with and protect our environment.
 

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, I guess the next step is to see if all of the signatures can be verified. If they are, it goes on the ballot. Then we will see if the "fruits and nuts" division of the state of Oregon has more votes on this bill than the rest of the state. As for the Native American tribes? Yeah good luck with that, soyboys and soygirls and the other variations of stupid, on telling THOSE folks what they can and can't do on tribal lands.
 
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