once you have the flu

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LSV

Contributing Member
Hi,
I am having trouble finding exactly what i am looking for, but maybe the answer is we just don't know. My question is..If/when the Avian flu comes and we get it or a family member gets it..when do you know if you will be alright? If the fever goes and the symptoms subside..does that mean you are out of the woods? you survived? you are immune? Is it the people that go into pneumonia that die or do you die from the flu part also? is the timeline about a week? I have 7 kids and it will be torture to sit there by their beds and wonder if they are out of the danger zone or if it is possible for them to start to get better and then go into the seconday infection that can kill :(

also, what about pregnancy, if the mom gets the flu, is the baby born with immunity? does the baby get the flu?
 
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Beetree

Veteran Member
Might I add to your Query?

There have been bad viruses going around for years. What makes one distinguishable from the other? In the news it says they do not know if the Avian flu will ever hit. In the news it says also that it has not made the human to human trans. Is it confusing? YES!
Good questions LSV!
 
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Bill P

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LSV, welcome to Tb2K.

There are many here more knowldegable than I am but I dont see that you have received a response so here is some info to get you started.

http://fluwikie.com/uploads/Consequ...ewGuideOct5.pdf

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=171670


First I think it is important to realize that there is the flu and then there is H5N1 Avian Flu. Ordinary flu is highly survivable by healthy people with normal immune systems.

The H5N1 Avian Flu is shaping up to be a super bug. In 1918, the last time we had a Super Flu Pandemic the diease came in three waves as the virus mutated rapdily.

With H5N1 I think the patient is out of the woods when he/she is not coughing and their temperature returns to normal. But there is alot of time in between that and onset during which it will be touch and go.

My own course of action is to emphasize preventitive measures prior to onset and then start a course of Tamiflu as soon as the onset of symptoms starts.

Once weakened by ordinary flu a body is more susceptible to other bacterial and viral infections. I suppose one will be weaker and more susceptible after a bout of H5N1. Antibiotics could be an essential prep item to combat post Flu disease.

I look forward to reading the comments from others...

Best Wishes to you and yours.
 
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Beetree

Veteran Member
Scary!

Quote:The H5N1 Avian Flu is shaping up to be a super bug. In 1918, the last time we had a Super Flu Pandemic the diease came in three waves as the virus mutated rapdily.:Unquote

Almost a hundred years ago there was a virus that mutated rapdily. That is very scary! I think it almost sounds like a horror movie! A rapdily mutating diease, you say! How very scary.
 
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gisgaia

Veteran Member
LSV, I think it could be that we may not "know" exactly what we're dealing with during an outbreak. If we have media like radio or tv, then we can follow what is being told to the public but I don't have much faith in the established systems being truthful with us.

This situation is looking like it could be pure hell and we also share your concerns! Even using the healthcare systems if they are working, (depending on the situation and how bad & quickly things are falling apart), could be very risky. Like under quarantine law, they - the military- might forcibly separate you from sick family members per health laws being enforced strictly. That means your sick loved ones could be taken away to die alone in some tent off in security area or God only knows. This entire thing is scaring the hell out of me ... heck, out of lots of us! I know the time is now to get prepped and set up for handling things as best as possible but it is almost too overwhelming to contemplate.

Last week, I heard some of the Senators talking with experts who were saying that things could be horrific - that there would be camps set up for the dying and military units having to deal with bodies, etc.

If you are thinking about how to manage things with your family, then try to set up for home care nursing immediately with as much nutrition & natural remedies and immune boosters obtained & stored now. Also try to have a place you could take the children that is way out in the country away from cities where there were might be more problems and exposure. I think if you can hunker down and stay in isolation way out in remote countryside, it might offer some protection.

There were many older threads in archives that discussed how to manage home care during anthrax BCW attacks, etc. Do a search for those and read the info to get ideas.

Sincere prayers for all of us, for all those sufferering, for divine intervention!

PS
Bill P, could you please fix the first link as it does not work. Thanks!
 
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GB_Cobber

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Beetree said:
Quote:The H5N1 Avian Flu is shaping up to be a super bug. In 1918, the last time we had a Super Flu Pandemic the diease came in three waves as the virus mutated rapdily.:Unquote

Almost a hundred years ago there was a virus that mutated rapdily. That is very scary! I think it almost sounds like a horror movie! A rapdily mutating diease, you say! How very scary.
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Thats the official line.

There has been a lot posted here on that topic recently. According to some of those articles those three stages were not a flu virus mutating but three consecutive vaccination fixes, the next created to overpower the negetive effect of the last. There was no knowledge of viruses back then. The vaccines were for other things like smallpox, typhoid and a dozen other desieses known at the time. Apparently they were not for a flu virus and there was no spanish flu. That excuse was invented later after the discovery of the nature of virus's in the 30's when scientists first saw the virus under a microscope. A coverup.
There's a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that Big Pharma killed those 20 million people and untill we start getting straight answers for the MSM I'm more inclined to believe the evidence.
 
fruit loop

fruit loop

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FIrst off: Don't Panic

Yes, people have died from this flu....but we have only heard about DEATHS. How many others may have had this very same flu virus, not known it, and just stayed home till they recovered??? Most people do that with the flu. THey don't even go to the doctor.

Watch for symptoms of pneumonia and bronchitis. Those are the secondary infections.

Treat the symptoms, and don't panic. Most people will recover. This flu is harsher than other forms of flu, but the patients who will recover aren't going to react that differently than they do with other forms of flu. If your kids are still alive, and their fevers are going down, and they begin to take an interest in their surroundings, don't worry.

Watch for signs of severe respiratory distress. If you don't see those, keep treating the flu as usual.
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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fruit loop said:
Yes, people have died from this flu....but we have only heard about DEATHS. How many others may have had this very same flu virus, not known it, and just stayed home till they recovered??? Most people do that with the flu. THey don't even go to the doctor.

Watch for symptoms of pneumonia and bronchitis. Those are the secondary infections.

Treat the symptoms, and don't panic. Most people will recover. This flu is harsher than other forms of flu, but the patients who will recover aren't going to react that differently than they do with other forms of flu. If your kids are still alive, and their fevers are going down, and they begin to take an interest in their surroundings, don't worry.

Watch for signs of severe respiratory distress. If you don't see those, keep treating the flu as usual.
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I agree. The deaths get sensationalized but the survivors go back to making tupperware in the factory.
 
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connie

Veteran Member
Pardon the slight thread drift...

During the 1918 flu epidemic my grandfather was in the army stationed in the Missouri area (can't remember exactly). He and others became ill. He looked around at what was happening at the Army base and left......

Went home to Texas where his mother nursed him back to health. He then returned to Missouri. The commanding officer told him he could be shot for desertion. He told them he knew that if he had stayed, he would have died.

Like him, I'll probably take my chances at home. If I get pneumonia, I'll try and locate antibiotics.....
 
fruit loop

fruit loop

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Stay OUT of hospitals

Death from flu occurs from secondary infections. You are most likely to catch a secondary infection in the hospital, because they're full of germs.

Friend had a liver transplant. They discharged her as quickly as possible BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID SHE'D GET AN INFECTION FROM THE HOSPITAL.

Says a lot, doesn't it?
 
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