POL Officials Shocked After Trump State Department Halts Funding For Military Aid to Ukraine

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BREAKING: Officials Shocked After Trump State Department Halts Funding For Military Aid to Ukraine​


Trump’s State Department halted funding for military aid to Ukraine for 90 days.
According to Politico, Secretary of State Marco Rubio issued new guidance on Friday to temporarily halt spending on most foreign aid for 3 months.
Military funding for Egypt and Israel will continue.

Deep state officials in the State Department were reportedly shocked after Marco Rubio issued the new guidance.
The new guidance is effective immediately.
“State just totally went nuclear on foreign assistance,” a State Department official said according to Politico.
Politico reported:
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Friday issued new guidance halting spending on most existing foreign aid grants for 90 days. The order, which shocked State Department officials, appears to apply to funding for military assistance to Ukraine.
Rubio’s guidance, issued to all diplomatic and consular posts, requires department staffers to issue “stop-work orders” on nearly all “existing foreign assistance awards,” according to the document, which was obtained by POLITICO. It is effective immediately.
It appears to go further than President Donald Trump’s recent executive order, which instructed the department to pause foreign aid grants for 90 days pending review by the secretary. It had not been clear from the president’s order if it would affect already appropriated funds or Ukraine aid.
The new guidance means no further actions will be taken to disperse aid funding to programs already approved by the U.S. government, according to three current and two former officials familiar with the new guidance.
This is a stark contrast to the last few years under the Biden Regime.
Joe Biden and Congress sent nearly $200 billion in aid and military assistance to Ukraine.

In September, the Biden Regime announced an eye-watering $8 billion in military aid for Ukraine during Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to Washington.
This massive giveaway comes as Americans continue to face economic hardships, skyrocketing inflation, and an unprecedented crisis at the southern border.
Since the onset of Russia’s full-scale invasion, Congress has approved nearly $175 billion in aid and military assistance for Ukraine.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Shouldn't the EUROPEANS be footing the bill for Ukraine?!? It's in their neighborhood and EFFECTS THEM THE MOST!! Just like WWI and WWII, where THEY failed to get off their butts and stop that mess before it got really going....AND the US had to bail their butts out and help them rebuild.
 

Walrus

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If we're still funding Egypt and Israel, then they haven't halted all funding. It is not our job to fund other nations. For goodness sake, halt ALL foreign funding--PERMANENTLY--and focus on America!
The Israel money - due to the Zionist lobby money while bamboozling ordinary Americans with what is essentially hooey - is not that surprising, even though it's disappointing. I don't get the Egyptian thing but maybe it's sort of a balancing act.

One thing I don't appreciate now is that we're only seeing the top ends of these stories and VERY LITTLE detailed truth.

That's not good enough, my President. Get out the story in the flood, not just headlines.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Most (about 73 percent) American aid money stays in America.

The military industrial complex produces new equipment for our own use, and the old items it replaces are what is physically shipped to Ukraine. They get our hand me downs.

Some military items are nearing the end of their useful planned lifespan, and would have to be decommissioned (costing the taxpayers) anyway.
 
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JMG91

Veteran Member
Most (about 73 percent) American aid money stays in America.

The military industrial complex produces new equipment for our own use, and the old items it replaces are what is physically shipped to Ukraine. They get our hand me downs.

Some military items are nearing the end of their useful planned lifespan, and would have to be decommissioned anyway.
That shouldn't matter. We should not be funding war over in other countries in any way shape or form. If these countries over there want to have a war, they need to do it on their own dime.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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So vK, I never thought of you as a war lover. Maybe you should join the democrat party, since ideologically you seem to be one of them. Right down to your Jew-hate. Maybe you could be a democrat prez one day.

Vk should send his money to the Ds and quit promoting the use of tax dollars for personally enriching the commies.

Every single thing they fund is all about the kickbacks, graft and corruption.

EVERY ONE.


Vk's ideological presentation of everything is exactly what a democrat plant/influencer would do.

It's starting to rhyme with FJ's program.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Most (about 73 percent) American aid money stays in America.

The military industrial complex produces new equipment for our own use, and the old items it replaces are what is physically shipped to Ukraine. They get our hand me downs.

Some military items are nearing the end of their useful planned lifespan, and would have to be decommissioned anyway.

Doesn’t matter. No nation or other people should come before our own. Billions sent overseas to prop up governments that cannot find the strength or do not have the strength to stand on their own is inexcusable when we have our own citizens suffering within the borders of this country. Taxpayer money needs to stay here, even if that is in outdated material assets. They want our outdated material assets then they can damn well pay market value for them.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Didn’t I read where Putin said if we gave him Fauci that he would stop the war in the Ukraine?

No other countries care about Fauci. He is our issue.

The Ukraine war is a far more complex issue and there is no easy solution for NATO/EU to extract itself from this tar baby. They have damaged their economies.

Ukraine will end up accepting what Russia decides will be the ending for the war.

@@@@@

Scott Horton EXPOSES Media Ukraine Lies

Provoked: The Long Train Of Abuses That Culminated In The Ukraine War

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Explains How The Ukraine Russia War Started
 

CaBuckeye

Veteran Member
Bad idea
Not the cease fire deal but the other
History tends to repeat itself. This adage has been seen multiple times in the past and we are seeing it being repeated again today. Wars tend to happen when politicians can't or unable do their job and belligerents actions/reactions tend spin out of control to the point where war is inevitable.

American's have a tendency to look at the world cultures through American eyes. How we think, is how everyone else in the world thinks, or at least how we think they do. This lack of understanding of Japanese culture in 1940 created the war in the Pacific. Most Japanese including a large number of the Imperial Cabinet and military including the Emperor did not want a war but a lack of understanding of Japanese culture by the American government in their negotiation communications emboldened the warmongers on both sides. We said one thing but the Japanese interpreted it to mean something completely differnt and visa versa.

The Japanese Empire was a modern nation with ahighly developed manufacturing industry in the 1930's. What they lacked was the need to import almost everything needed by a industrialized nation, as their island was very poor in natural resources. The US understood this ned but unwisely used it as a club in dealing with Japan, even though they were an ally in WW1 and major trade partner of the US in the 1930's. Unknowingly, the American government in their lack of understanding of the Japanese culture, in an attempt to restrain the Japanese, their communications was actually communicating that America wanted to restrict them to their island and not allow them to be a major nation. This was something the Japanese could not allow and strengthen the warmongers forced them to invade other countries.

This lack of culture understanding is creating another crisis today as we are trying to understand Russian, Iranian and Chinese venture motives. Trying to apply solutions that would work on Canada, Germany or Italy, that have very similiar cultures, won't work on Putin, Xi, TBD. Almost no one wants a war but when people like Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Putin and Xi are allowed to run freely, they begin think they can take over the world and no one will try to stop them. This was proved time and again when Hitler took over Austria, Checlosolvika, Tojo in Korea and Manchuria, Stalin in Eastern Europe, China and N. Korea, Putin in Georgia and the Crimea. The politicians just try to appease them to not do it again but this only enboldens them to become even more aggressive. The United Nations was initially created to prevent despots from warring against other countries but since its creation, it has been a total failure and needs to be overhauled or replaced.

America did not want to go into WW1, WW2 or Korea but events were forced upon them that allowed no option but to join the war. The Cold War was a win for the politicians. Despite multiple events, the polictians applied the appropriate political pressures and economic sanctions that nullified communists tactics and we kept the Soviets from invading Europe without going to war and eventually created the downfall of the Soviet Communism Empire. Since that time we obviously have forgotton these Cold War lessons as our politicians forget or do not know the art of politics and economics and are to are too quick on the draw to ask " where are the carriers" . Injecting hundreds of thousands young Americans into places like Iran, Iraq and Afganistan (where only a few specialist are usually needed.) only tends to be a temporary solution and not a long term vivible solution.

My brother, multiple cousins, close friends and I served in Vietnam, my Dad, Uncles, cousins, family friends served in WW2, Korea and Mid-East adventures. My family has a long tradition of serving in the military with some making the ultimate sacrifice and some just suffurering physical and mental scars the rest of their lives.The last thing I or the majority of

Americans want to see is a another war. Nobody wins! Everyone Loses!

The Biden Administration and NATO totally screwed up the West's response to Putin's invasion of Ukraine. They thought they could all sit together around a campfire, make s'mores, sing Kum ba yah and Putin would voluntaryly pull back to Russia, donate his billions to Black Lives Matter and become a transsexual in repentence. Instead of applying the appropriate "cultural" politicial and economic sanctions, including getting the Russian people on our side and sanctioning any nation that supported Russia, this was not done. Drips and draps of sanctions were applied. Like a a frog in a pot set on a fire, Russia will tolerate the heat right up to the point where a world war is started. The question that has not been asked is why Putin is risking everything to take over Ukraine? Yes, its has warm water ports, natural resources, some oil and farming but Russia already has these items. Understanding this need is key to stopping Putin.

In the end, stopping Putin is not negotiable!! We, as a people can't let this go on and start WW3 nor can we let Putin walk in and enslave the Ukraine. WW2 started when Hilter invaded Poland. At the end of WW2 in Europe, Poland went from being under German domination to Soviet domination and victorious Allies let Eastern Europe suffer for 50 years under the Communists. We need to learn that stopping despots immediately is the only way to stop world wars. This does not mean sending in the troops. Almost every country including the US is dependent on other countries for trade, energy, natural resouces, finances, etc. Take away political, economic and trade will almost always turn a populace against their government. What Trump is planning I do not know, but he needs to do it soon as the Ukrainians people are on their last legs. Weening Europe off the Russian energy teat and totally shutting down their foreign income while isolating them politically and economically would be a start. I can think of a few other nasty dirty tricks as well. Getting the Voice of America radio going again into Russian and CIA off their lazy asses start up internal Russian political strife is a must. The Russian people did it before when they took down the Soviet Premier but they need to be reminded so they can do it again.

But in the meantime we need to heed the Latin adage "Si vis pacem, para bellum," i.e. "to prepare for peace, prepare for war"
 

Walrus

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Shouldn't the EUROPEANS be footing the bill for Ukraine?!? It's in their neighborhood and EFFECTS THEM THE MOST!! Just like WWI and WWII, where THEY failed to get off their butts and stop that mess before it got really going....AND the US had to bail their butts out and help them rebuild.
While we're spouting all the WE WON WWII historical revision, it might be useful to recall that the Russians (Soviet Union at the time, yes) lost 26 million people in WWII driving the Wehrmacht out of the Eastern Front singlehandedly. From Moscow and Stalingrad to the gates of Berlin, which was as far as our forces were able to fight through Europe from Normandy. Our GIs entered Berlin and the Russkies were there waiting for them. And there's some small credit which needs to be given to Lend Lease, which was paid back to the US to the exact cent.

But yes, the Eurotrash are already past the point of no return in saving their over-regulated, fantasy-driven unicorn utopia. Each government is headed DOWN very soon. Let them thrash themselves to obscurity while pretending that they're not now fully committed to admit they're fighting the Russians.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
History tends to repeat itself. This adage has been seen multiple times in the past and we are seeing it being repeated again today. Wars tend to happen when politicians can't or unable do their job and belligerents actions/reactions tend spin out of control to the point where war is inevitable.

American's have a tendency to look at the world cultures through American eyes. How we think, is how everyone else in the world thinks, or at least how we think they do. This lack of understanding of Japanese culture in 1940 created the war in the Pacific. Most Japanese including a large number of the Imperial Cabinet and military including the Emperor did not want a war but a lack of understanding of Japanese culture by the American government in their negotiation communications emboldened the warmongers on both sides. We said one thing but the Japanese interpreted it to mean something completely differnt and visa versa.

The Japanese Empire was a modern nation with ahighly developed manufacturing industry in the 1930's. What they lacked was the need to import almost everything needed by a industrialized nation, as their island was very poor in natural resources. The US understood this ned but unwisely used it as a club in dealing with Japan, even though they were an ally in WW1 and major trade partner of the US in the 1930's. Unknowingly, the American government in their lack of understanding of the Japanese culture, in an attempt to restrain the Japanese, their communications was actually communicating that America wanted to restrict them to their island and not allow them to be a major nation. This was something the Japanese could not allow and strengthen the warmongers forced them to invade other countries.

This lack of culture understanding is creating another crisis today as we are trying to understand Russian, Iranian and Chinese venture motives. Trying to apply solutions that would work on Canada, Germany or Italy, that have very similiar cultures, won't work on Putin, Xi, TBD. Almost no one wants a war but when people like Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Putin and Xi are allowed to run freely, they begin think they can take over the world and no one will try to stop them. This was proved time and again when Hitler took over Austria, Checlosolvika, Tojo in Korea and Manchuria, Stalin in Eastern Europe, China and N. Korea, Putin in Georgia and the Crimea. The politicians just try to appease them to not do it again but this only enboldens them to become even more aggressive. The United Nations was initially created to prevent despots from warring against other countries but since its creation, it has been a total failure and needs to be overhauled or replaced.

America did not want to go into WW1, WW2 or Korea but events were forced upon them that allowed no option but to join the war. The Cold War was a win for the politicians. Despite multiple events, the polictians applied the appropriate political pressures and economic sanctions that nullified communists tactics and we kept the Soviets from invading Europe without going to war and eventually created the downfall of the Soviet Communism Empire. Since that time we obviously have forgotton these Cold War lessons as our politicians forget or do not know the art of politics and economics and are to are too quick on the draw to ask " where are the carriers" . Injecting hundreds of thousands young Americans into places like Iran, Iraq and Afganistan (where only a few specialist are usually needed.) only tends to be a temporary solution and not a long term vivible solution.

My brother, multiple cousins, close friends and I served in Vietnam, my Dad, Uncles, cousins, family friends served in WW2, Korea and Mid-East adventures. My family has a long tradition of serving in the military with some making the ultimate sacrifice and some just suffurering physical and mental scars the rest of their lives.The last thing I or the majority of

Americans want to see is a another war. Nobody wins! Everyone Loses!

The Biden Administration and NATO totally screwed up the West's response to Putin's invasion of Ukraine. They thought they could all sit together around a campfire, make s'mores, sing Kum ba yah and Putin would voluntaryly pull back to Russia, donate his billions to Black Lives Matter and become a transsexual in repentence. Instead of applying the appropriate "cultural" politicial and economic sanctions, including getting the Russian people on our side and sanctioning any nation that supported Russia, this was not done. Drips and draps of sanctions were applied. Like a a frog in a pot set on a fire, Russia will tolerate the heat right up to the point where a world war is started. The question that has not been asked is why Putin is risking everything to take over Ukraine? Yes, its has warm water ports, natural resources, some oil and farming but Russia already has these items. Understanding this need is key to stopping Putin.

In the end, stopping Putin is not negotiable!! We, as a people can't let this go on and start WW3 nor can we let Putin walk in and enslave the Ukraine. WW2 started when Hilter invaded Poland. At the end of WW2 in Europe, Poland went from being under German domination to Soviet domination and victorious Allies let Eastern Europe suffer for 50 years under the Communists. We need to learn that stopping despots immediately is the only way to stop world wars. This does not mean sending in the troops. Almost every country including the US is dependent on other countries for trade, energy, natural resouces, finances, etc. Take away political, economic and trade will almost always turn a populace against their government. What Trump is planning I do not know, but he needs to do it soon as the Ukrainians people are on their last legs. Weening Europe off the Russian energy teat and totally shutting down their foreign income while isolating them politically and economically would be a start. I can think of a few other nasty dirty tricks as well. Getting the Voice of America radio going again into Russian and CIA off their lazy asses start up internal Russian political strife is a must. The Russian people did it before when they took down the Soviet Premier but they need to be reminded so they can do it again.

But in the meantime we need to heed the Latin adage "Si vis pacem, para bellum," i.e. "to prepare for peace, prepare for war"
Or we could just mind our own business, take care of things here at home before even thinking of doing the banksters bidding , militarily or financially.

You might take notice , we are broke, flat busted broke.

We are in debt past our eyeballs and about 20' over our heads...in other words we are drowning .

Lets take care of what we need to take of here, Trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

Lets stop allowing our young men to be decimated doing the bidding of the MIC and the Rothschild banking cartel playing both sides to the middle.
 

Zardoz

Veteran Member
Or we could just mind our own business, take care of things here at home before even thinking of doing the banksters bidding , militarily or financially.

You might take notice , we are broke, flat busted broke.

We are in debt past our eyeballs and about 20' over our heads...in other words we are drowning .

Lets take care of what we need to take of here, Trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

Lets stop allowing our young men to be decimated doing the bidding of the MIC and the Rothschild banking cartel playing both sides to the middle.
:applaud: :applaud:
 

greysage

Ephesians 6:12
Or we could just mind our own business, take care of things here at home before even thinking of doing the banksters bidding , militarily or financially.

You might take notice , we are broke, flat busted broke.

We are in debt past our eyeballs and about 20' over our heads...in other words we are drowning .

Lets take care of what we need to take of here, Trade with all, entangling alliances with none.

Lets stop allowing our young men to be decimated doing the bidding of the MIC and the Rothschild banking cartel playing both sides to the middle.

Hear, hear!
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A historical footnote.

The Lend Lease total to the Soviet Union was $2.6 billion (in 1940's dollars).

The amount owed was later reduced to $772 million and the Soviet Union and later the Russian Federation paid on this debt until 2006.

Technically yes the debt was paid but not for the full amount owed and definitely not in terms of the original 1940's purchasing power.
 
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von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Isolationism is a viable option provided one is willing to accept the inevitable historical and military consequences.

The last time America followed an isolationist foreign policy was in the 1930's.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Refusing to fund this war is not "isolationism"....not even in the same universe.

The only people who are gaining from it is f***stick zelensky, the commies who are receiving laundered funds from it and arms producers who sell more product.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
No other countries care about Fauci. He is our issue.

The Ukraine war is a far more complex issue and there is no easy solution for NATO/EU to extract itself from this tar baby. They have damaged their economies.

Ukraine will end up accepting what Russia decides will be the ending for the war.

@@@@@

Scott Horton EXPOSES Media Ukraine Lies

Provoked: The Long Train Of Abuses That Culminated In The Ukraine War

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Explains How The Ukraine Russia War Started
Fauci is everyone on the planets issue........eh He lied, millions died...and will die. Gates is in the same category, as is Soros, and others. Their intentions have been stated so many times......they have confessed, by admitting their guilt. The digital evidence is substantial. These men have worked hard to undermine the free west. They are traitors.

The list is long in the political realm. Big Pharma pholks. Where harm was physical and mental, debilitating. These tyrants must pay.........dearly. The shots, and the AG's Soros bought off have been deadly, and dishonest leading to great losses.

They have to be dealt with, or their is no rule of law.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
It appears that nobody on this board, seems to remember
who started the war in Ukraine.

Who instigated the Maiden coup-d-etat, that overthrew
a democratically elected, Ukraine federal government.

Who started a war against the Russian Ukrainians
in the Donbas, resulting in over 15000 deaths.

Who attempted a political settlement to the upcoming
war in Ukraine, with the (2)two failed Minsk agreements.

Finally when a political settlement was obtained in
the Istanbul agreement, that would have ended the
upcoming Ukraine war, who destroyed the agreement
on orders from Biden, no agreement we fight.

The out of the pits of hell ZUSA, yes that is correct,
the ZUSA started it, all the new Russia has done is
respond to the threats from the ZUSA/NATO.

I have followed every thing about the events in Ukraine,
since 2013, and I am saddened to see what has happened.
Russia and Ukraine have a very long history, and there are
many families in Russia and Ukraine that have members
from both nations. Russia did not want to to this,
and they told the ZUSA/NATO what needed to be done,
in order to have peace not war, but war is all that the
ZUSA/NATO wants.

War is what they got, and the ZUSA/NATO started the war,
but thanks to The Most High God, the new Russia is going
to finish it. Ukraine will be destroyed, and the new Russia
will be a saddened nation, but with secure borders.

You may need to checkout the new Russia. It is incredible
what has occurred there, since the fall of the USSR.
Not only did the peoples in Eastern Europe gain liberties,
but so did the Russian people. All they want, is to be left
alone and live in peace.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Seems to me if the Russians conquered all of europe, including the sphincter of planet england, they would make all of europe a much better place because it is impossible to make it any worse than it already is (although I am sure the europeans will try).
 
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