ALERT North Korea 'fires submarine-launched ballistic missile' - 23 April 2016

Housecarl

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North Korea 'fires submarine-launched ballistic missile'

3 hours ago
From the section Asia

North Korea appears to have fired a ballistic missile from a submarine off its eastern coast, South Korea says.

It is not clear whether the test was authentic, and if it was, whether it will be considered a success by the North.

A successful test would be significant because submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) are hard to detect.

It comes as North Korea gears up for a rare and significant party congress next month.

North Korea is banned from nuclear tests and activities that use ballistic missile technology under UN sanctions dating back to 2006.

'Fabricated'

"North Korea launched a projectile which was believed to be a submarine-launched ballistic missile around 6:30 pm (0930 GMT) in the East Sea (Sea of Japan) near the north-eastern port of Sinpo," a South Korea defence ministry spokesman said.

"We are keeping close tabs on the North Korean military and maintaining a full defence posture," he said.

North Korea has yet to report the test in its own official media. The secretive state has claimed to have carried out similar tests before but some doubt those claims.

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◾How advanced is North Korea's nuclear programme?
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The US says photographs supposedly showing one launch in December were manipulated and others think the North has fired missiles from submerged platforms, but not submarines.

Regarding this latest test, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that the missile travelled about 30km (19 miles), whereas a typical SLBM can travel at least 300km (186 miles).

North Korea has so far conducted four nuclear tests - the first one in October 2006 and the latest in January this year.

The UN Security Council responded to the latter by imposing its strongest sanctions to date over the North's nuclear weapons programme.

Last month North Korea said it had developed nuclear warheads small enough to fit on ballistic missiles, although experts cast doubt on the claims.

Analysts believe the North may be gearing up for a fifth test as a show of strength ahead of the North Korean Workers' Party Congress, the first since 1980.


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North Korea's nuclear programme: How advanced is it?
10 February 2016
 

Housecarl

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hed-offshore-ballistic-missile-says-the-south

North Korea launched offshore ballistic missile, says the South

The device reportedly flew for nearly 20 miles and was deployed from a submarine, in clear breach of UN sanctions

Reuters
Saturday 23 April 2016 13.20 EDT

North Korea has fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile off its east coast, South Korea has said.

The north fired the missile to the north-east from an area off its east coast at about 6.30pm (09.30 GMT) on Saturday, the south’s office of the joint chiefs of staff said.

The announcement comes during concerns that the isolated state might conduct a nuclear test or a missile launch ahead of a ruling party meeting in May.

North Korea will hold a congress of its ruling Workers’ party in early May for the first time in 36 years, at which its leader, Kim Jong-un, is expected to say the country is a strong military power and a nuclear state.

The missile flew for about 30 km (18 miles), a South Korean defence ministry official said, adding its military was trying to determine whether the launch may have been a failure for unspecified reasons.

South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said the missile flew “for a few minutes”, citing a government source.

The US State Department in Washington said it was aware of reports the north had launched what appeared to be a ballistic missile.

“Launches using ballistic missile technology are a clear violation of multiple UN Security Council resolutions,” said State Department spokesman John Kirby.

It first attempted a launch of the submarine-based missile last year and was seen to be in the early stages of developing such a weapons system, which could pose a new threat to its neighbours and the United States if it is perfected.

However, follow-up test launches were believed to have fallen short of the north’s expectations as its state media footage appeared to have been edited to fake success, according experts who have seen the visuals.

South Korea’s military has said it is on high alert over the possibility that the isolated North could conduct its fifth nuclear test “at any time” in defiance of UN sanctions after setting off what it said was a hydrogen device in January.

Satellite images show that North Korea may have resumed tunnel excavation at its main nuclear test site, which is similar to activity seen before the January test, a US North Korea monitoring website reported on Wednesday.

South Korea and the US, as well as experts, believe the north is working to develop a submarine-launched ballistic missile system and an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) putting the mainland United States within range.

North Korea is banned from nuclear tests and activities that use ballistic missile technology under UN sanctions dating back to 2006 and most recently adopted in March but it has pushed ahead with work to miniaturise a nuclear warhead and develop an ICBM.

A senior US official said this week that North Korea should take a lesson from Iran, which has agreed to roll back its nuclear programme in an agreement with western powers in return for lifting of major sanctions but the north has shown no sign of entering into such a pact.
 

Housecarl

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nkorea-ready-halt-nuke-tests-us-stops-skorea-38623223

NKorea to AP: Will Halt Nuke Tests If US Stops SKorea Drills

By Eric Talmadge, Associated Press · NEW YORK — Apr 23, 2016, 5:58 PM ET

North Korea's foreign minister said Saturday in an interview with The Associated Press that his country is ready to halt its nuclear tests if the United States suspends its annual military exercises with South Korea.

He also defended the country's right to maintain a nuclear deterrent and warned that North Korea won't be cowed by international sanctions. And for those waiting for the North's regime to collapse, he had this to say: Don't hold your breath.

Foreign Minister Ri Su Yong, in his first interview with a Western news organization, held firm to Pyongyang's longstanding position that the U.S. drove his country to develop nuclear weapons as an act of self-defense. At the same time, he suggested that suspending the military exercises with Seoul could open the door to talks and reduced tensions.

"If we continue on this path of confrontation, this will lead to very catastrophic results, not only for the two countries but for the whole entire world as well," he said, speaking in Korean through an interpreter. "It is really crucial for the United States government to withdraw its hostile policy against the DPRK and as an expression of this stop the military exercises, war exercises, in the Korean Peninsula. Then we will respond likewise." He used the acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Ri, who spoke calmly and in measured words, a contrast to the often bombastic verbiage used by the North's media, claimed the North's proposal was "very logical."

"Stop the nuclear war exercises in the Korean Peninsula, then we should also cease our nuclear tests," he said, during the interview, conducted in the country's diplomatic mission to the United Nations. He spoke beneath portraits of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jung Il, North Korea's two previous leaders — the grandfather and father of current leader Kim Jong Un.

If the exercises are halted "for some period, for some years," he added, "new opportunities may arise for the two countries and for the whole entire world as well."

It is extremely rare for top North Korean officials to give interviews to foreign media, and particularly with Western news organizations.

Ri's proposal, which he said he hoped U.S. policymakers would heed, may well fall on deaf ears. North Korea, which sees the U.S.-South Korean exercises as a rehearsal for invasion, has floated similar proposals to Washington in the past but the U.S. has insisted the North give up its nuclear weapons program first before any negotiations. The result has been a stalemate between the two countries that Ri said has put the peninsula at the crossroads of a thermonuclear war.

In an initial response to Ri's remarks, a U.S. official defended the military exercises as demonstrating the U.S. commitment to its alliance with the South and said they enhance the combat readiness, flexibility and capabilities of the alliance.

"We call again on North Korea to refrain from actions and rhetoric that further raise tensions in the region and focus instead on taking concrete steps toward fulfilling its international commitments and obligations," said the official, who requested anonymity because he said he was not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Sanctions, Ri said, won't sway the North.

"If they believe they can actually frustrate us with sanctions, they are totally mistaken," he said. "The more pressure you put on to something, the more emotionally you react to stand up against it. And this is important for the American policymakers to be aware of."

Ri, in New York to attend a United Nations' meeting on sustainable development, said the possibility of conflict has increased significantly this year because the exercises have taken on what Pyongyang sees as a more aggressive and threatening tone — including training to conduct precision "decapitation" strikes on North Korea's leadership.

This year's exercises are the biggest ever, involving about 300,000 troops. Washington and Seoul say they beefed up the maneuvers after North Korea conducted its fifth nuclear test, in January, which also brought a new round of tough sanctions by the U.N. down on Pyongyang's head. The exercises are set to continue through the end of the month.

Pyongyang, meanwhile, has responded with a series of missile launches and statements in its media that the country has developed its long-range ballistic missile and nuclear warhead technologies to the point that they now present a credible deterrent and could even be used against targets on the U.S. mainland, though not all foreign analysts accept that claim.

Ri's comments to the AP came just hours after North Korea launched what was believed to be a submarine-launched ballistic missile in its latest show of defiance as the U.S.-South Korea exercises wind down.

Ri also used his presence at the U.N. conference as a forum to denounce Washington, saying in a brief statement that while North Korea is contributing to the objectives of global sustainable development by taking measures to double its production of grains to solve its food problem by 2030 and by reforesting 1.67 million hectares (4.13 million acres) of mountainous areas, it is doing so under "the most adverse conditions due to outside forces."

In the interview, he stated that the United States has used its power to get other countries to join in pressure on North Korea.

"A country as small as the DPRK cannot actually be a threat to the U.S. or to the world," he told the AP. "How great would it be if the world were to say to the United States and the American government not to conduct any more military exercises in the Korean Peninsula ... But there is not a single country that says this to the U.S."

"These big countries alone or together are telling us that we should calm down," he said. "For us this is like a sentence, that we should accept our death and refuse our right to sovereignty."

Ri said North Korea is not encouraged by the thawing of relations between Washington and Cuba or Iran.

"We're happy for the Cuban people and the Iranian people that they have reached successes on their path to pursuing their own goals and interests," he said. But he added that those cases "differ totally" from the U.S.-North Korea relationship.

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Associated Press writer Kathleen Hennessey in London contributed to this report.
 

energy_wave

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You all know what happens when a country like North Korea breaches UN sanctions right?

Think Saddam.

Don't think it can't happen under Obama.
 

Housecarl

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You all know what happens when a country like North Korea breaches UN sanctions right?

Think Saddam.

Don't think it can't happen under Obama.

The difference is Kim's already got the nukes and proven missiles (Nodong) to put them on that can reach any likely marshalling area where you'd set up for such an incursion.
 

Housecarl

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Merde.....It's solid fueled. Remember that solid fuel booster test Kim attended a few weeks ago? Well that was very possibly part of this thing...

https://twitter.com/Joshua_Pollack/status/724081490749972480/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Joshua H. Pollack
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New DPRK solid-fueled SLBM, per DPRK media:
8:44 PM - 23 Apr 2016
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Melissa Hanham
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#DPRK SLBM photos. Purportedly, solid fuel. Crazy!

8:28 PM - 23 Apr 2016
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ETA: The North Koreans apparently also filmed the launch from the location of the silo on the submerged sub. Will see if I can get a video instead of the choppy photos....Here we go to a degree...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVia9qYtm88
 
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Housecarl

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Merde.....

:shk::eek::bhd:

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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-04/24/c_135307158.htm

Spotlight: DPRK announces firing of submarine-launched ballistic missile

Source: Xinhua 2016-04-24 13:20:09

PYONGYANG, April 24 (Xinhua) -- The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) announced that it has successfully launched a ballistic missile from a submarine, the official KCNA news agency reported Sunday.

DPRK top leader Kim Jong Un guided the test, the KCNA reported.

The test is aimed to "confirm the stability of the underwater ballistic launching system in the maximum depth of waters, flying kinetic feature under the vertical flight system of the ballistic missile powered by the newly developed high-power solid fuel engine, the reliability of the phased heat separation and the working accuracy of nuclear detonating device of the warhead," said the KCNA.

The launch was "an eye-opening success" and Kim was satisfied with the result, it said. The DPRK-style submarine-launched ballistic missile technology met all technical requirements for carrying out an underwater attack operation, it said.

Kim said that submarine-launched ballistic missiles strengthen the underwater operation capability of the navy and that the military is now capable of attacking South Korean forces and the United States at any time.

He also urged DPRK scientists and technicians to step up the nuclear program in order to launch nuclear attacks on the United States and South Korean authorities "any time when the party (Workers' Party of Korea) is determined to do so."

The KCNA did not give the date of the test.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said Saturday that the DPRK fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile off the east coast of the Korean Peninsula and that the military was closely monitoring the move of DPRK forces.

This is the second time the DPRK has announced the successful firing of a submarine-launched ballistic missile. On May 9, 2015, the KCNA reported that Kim watched the test-firing of a newly developed submarine-launched ballistic missile and called it "a success."

France said that the launch, if confirmed, would be a new violation of UN Security Council resolutions.

"We call on the international community to adopt a firm and united reaction so that North Korea stops its provocations," a spokesman for the French Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"In particular, France calls on the European Union to unilaterally adopt additional sanctions." he said.

Harsher than ever sanctions on the DPRK were adopted early March by the UN Security Council over the country's fourth nuclear test in January and long-range rocket launch, which was condemned as a disguised test of ballistic missile technology, in February.

DPRK Foreign Minister Ri Su Yong, in a rare interview with The Associated Press at the UN headquarters in New York on Saturday, said that it is the United States that drove his country to the development of nuclear weapons for self-defense.

"If we continue on this path of confrontation, this will lead to very catastrophic results, not only for the two countries but for the entire world as well," he said.

He urged the United States to stop military exercises in the Korean Peninsula. In return, the DPRK would cease its nuclear testing, he said.

Related:

France calls for more EU sanctions against DPRK after missile test

PARIS, April 24 (Xinhua) -- France has urged its European partners to adopt additional sanctions against the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) after Pyongyang test-fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile.

In a statement released late Saturday, a Foreign Ministry spokesman urged "a firm and united reaction so that North Korea stops its provocations and abandon, irreversibly, its nuclear and missile program." Full story

DPRK announces successful test-fire of submarine-launched ballistic missile

PYONGYANG, April 24 (Xinhua) -- The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) announced it has conducted a successful underwater test-fire of strategic submarine ballistic missile and the top leader Kim Jong Un guided the test-fire, the official KCNA news agency reported Sunday.

The test-fire aimed to "confirm the stability of the underwater ballistic launching system in the maximum depth of waters, flying kinetic feature under the vertical flight system of the ballistic missile powered by the newly developed high-power solid fuel engine, the reliability of the phased heat separation and the working accuracy of nuclear detonating device of the warhead. Full story

Editor: xuxin

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• Japan, U.S. to enhance cooperation on response to DPRK's nuclear, missile pursuits

• S. Korea says DPRK prepares for 5th nuke test
 

Housecarl

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Meanwhile....

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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2016/04/24/0200000000AEN20160424001100315.html

N. Korea deploys 300 new MLRS along front line: sources

2016/04/24 10:50

SEOUL, April 24 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has deployed some 300 new multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) along its front line with South Korea, which can hit Seoul and surrounding areas, military sources said Sunday.

Local sources, citing intelligence findings, said Pyongyang has placed the 122 millimeter rocket launchers north of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that separates the two Koreas.

These weapons systems have an estimated range of some 40 kilometers that can place large areas in and around the capital city within striking distance.

"The North has been deploying the new rocket launchers with regimental units along the DMZ since 2014," said an official insider, who declined to be identified.

He said that there is a pressing need to counter such threats, adding that both Seoul and Washington have made joint threat assessments on these weapons systems.

The latest rockets while having the same diameter as those used to attack Yeonpyeong Island in November 2010, have twice the range.

There are two known variants of the MLRS, with one having 30 barrels per unit and the other having 40.

If the North fired off 30-barrel launchers all at once, it could send some 9,000 rockets into the South.

The military said the rockets could place most of north Gyeonggi Province within their range, and theoretically hit northern parts of Seoul like the presidential Cheong Wa Dae and some areas of Incheon.

They will augment the country's 170 mm very long range self-propelled artillery pieces that can send shells 53 kilometers down range and the 240 mm MLRS that can fire projectiles as far as 64 kilometers. These large caliber rocket launcher systems will cover all of Seoul if placed near the inter-Korean border and reach as far south as Ansan and Seongnam.

“The new rockets will increase the number of MLRS and long-range artillery along the DMZ to over 600," another source said. He added if the North fields the even larger 300 mm rocket launcher systems with a range of around 200 km, it could target Gyeyong, where the headquarters of the South Korean military is located, as well as the U.S. military base in Pyeongtaek.

Military experts said that South Korea currently does not have weapons that can intercept such threats, and the only measure it can take is to carry out pre-emptive strikes, which entail serious risks of actually starting a conflict.

The defense ministry, meanwhile, officially said it cannot confirm if the 122 mm MLRS have been deployed but stressed countermeasures to deal with such systems are included in the 2017-2021 midterm national defense plan.

yonngong@yna.co.kr

(END)
 

pinkelsteinsmom

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Could this thugs boldness mean he is fronting for China who is sitting quietly and letting the little hitler flaunt his threats.
 

Pinecone

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You can thank Bill Clinton for that.

OOPS! The quote didn't come through. The VP Squadrons were drawn down in Clinton's administrations.
 
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cooter

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as to this,

Pre-2003 Iraq and North Korea are two different animals.

in fighting ability, think this, at least from what I have read,

Iraq, puppydog, north korea- badger,

a fight with korea with the terrain and their military, we really don't want to go there,
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
We need a revitalized Civil Defense, and we need it NOW.

http://cdreborn.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-dangers-of-smalll-men.html

The Dangers of Small Men


The recent news of North Korea should be unsettling to anyone. Kim Jong Un now has Sub-Launched Ballistic Missiles that actually seem to work from the submerged position. There has been a lot joking generated by some about the backward state of North Korea's technological base, and not much credence has been put into the idea that the Norks might be anything other that a regional threat. To be fair, I think the Western powers and media have started to wake up in the past year, but like the story of the tortoise and the hare, it now may be too late.

What now exists in North Korea is the rise of a credible submarine force that may soon be, if not already, equipped with a nuclear package. The Norks know that they have our attention now, which gives rise to power plays like this:

Stop War Drills and We'll Stop Nuclear Tests, North Korea Tells US After Missile Launch

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hed-offshore-ballistic-missile-says-the-south

The issue here is that we have a world leader in North Korea that is very akin to Saddam in attitude and ruthlessness, combined with an actual nuclear weapons program that may already be operational. And given that our nets have lost Kim's subs in the Pacific more than once, that operational program may get parked off any coast in the Pacific Rim.

We need a revitalized Civil Defense, and we need it NOW.
 

Housecarl

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in fighting ability, think this, at least from what I have read,

Iraq, puppydog, north korea- badger,

a fight with korea with the terrain and their military, we really don't want to go there,

Yeah, badger is an apt description alright.
 

Ben Sunday

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Quoting the opening line from TheSearcher:

We need a revitalized Civil Defense, and we need it NOW.

http://cdreborn.blogspot.com/2016/04...malll-men.html

Absolutely! Since it is not politically expedient, popular or beneficial to certain segments of society I don't honestly see any new efforts in this regard.

Yes, I do remember, vividly, those yellow and black signs on places such as postal facilities and older, more robust structures such as schools and factories. It was not perfect but it was far superior to having nothing.
 

almost ready

Inactive
Without derailing this thread, can someone post a site (if such exists) where one can identify old Civil Defense locations?

I remember only that Clinton had them emptied and sold off their contents. Thought it a terrible idea, but then Reagan started the shut down of the strategic food supplies. The old west here is littered with empty grain silos that used to house a two year food supply for the country. Now nada.

Perhaps that would be a good new thread, if someone has the energy. I'm going back to work now. Perhaps there are old threads that already went over how to identify good Civil Defense locations.

We're on our own, buckos. Not likely to be included in the COG programs!
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Absolutely! Since it is not politically expedient, popular or beneficial to certain segments of society I don't honestly see any new efforts in this regard.

Yes, I do remember, vividly, those yellow and black signs on places such as postal facilities and older, more robust structures such as schools and factories. It was not perfect but it was far superior to having nothing.

That's why I started the new blog, it's a niche area in prepping that can never have too much attention. Even if the government won't do its job in protecting us, we can reach out and make people aware of the specific threat we are facing, how we've planned for it in the past, and bring it back as a citizen-driven effort.
 

michaelteever

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For fair use education/research purposes.

The link: http://www.voanews.com/content/north-korea-submarine-missile-launch-successful-failure/3300320.html

The article:

Military Analysts: N. Korean Submarine Missile Launch a 'Successful Failure'
By Brian Padden

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A photo shows the underwater test-fire of a strategic submarine ballistic missile in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang, April 24, 2016.

SEOUL—

North Korea is calling its submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) test on Saturday a “great success,” while South Korea labeled it a failure.

Military analysts, however, are classifying the missile launch as a “successful failure.”

North Korea’s claim, made through its state news agency KCNA, that it now has another means by which to carry out a "powerful nuclear attack" seems to exaggerate its present military capabilities.

The South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff’s negative assessment points out the current limitations of the North’s SLBM program.

Fell short

The missile launched Saturday traveled only 30 kilometers before falling into the sea, Seoul said, which was well short of the minimum range of 300 kilometers for the medium-range ballistic missile it tested.

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A photo shows North Korean leader Kim Jong Un focusing on the underwater test-fire of a strategic submarine ballistic missile in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang, April 24, 2016.

Another Seoul government source said the missile’s engine malfunctioned shortly after it was launched.

Commenting on North Korea's latest test, U.S. President Barack Obama said Sunday it is "clear that North Korea is actively engaged in provocative behavior."

During a visit to Germany, Obama also dismissed a North Korean offer to impose a moratorium on nuclear tests if the U.S. suspends annual military drills with South Korea.

"We don't take seriously a promise to simply halt until the next time they decide to do a test," Obama said.

SLBM development

North Korea is considered to be in the early stages of developing a submarine-based missile launch capability. It has attempted three SLBM tests in the last year.

All were believed to have been failures, even though KCNA claimed otherwise, and – according to analysts – videos of past launches were edited to make them appear successful.

Still, analysts say with each test Pyongyang is correcting past mistakes and coming closer to developing a dangerous new capability to strike its enemies in the region and even target the U.S. mainland.

“Even test failures push development forward,” said North Korea analyst Daniel Pinkston via Twitter on Sunday. Pinkston is a lecturer in international relations with Troy University in Seoul.

Melissa Hanham at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California, said still photographs of Saturday's test seem to indicate the submarine-based missile has now been upgraded to use solid fuel.

"A solid fuel SLBM would mean they could launch more easily and quickly with potentially less risk to their sub," Hanham told VOA via Twitter.

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Visitors look at the north side at the Imjingak Pavilion near the border with North Korea, in Paju, South Korea, April 24, 2016.

Analysts from the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies posted a video analysis of Pyongyang’s last submarine missile test in January to prove it was an explosive dud and not the great success claimed by North Korea.

Future threat

North Korea currently maintains one of the world's largest submarine forces with approximately 70 underwater vessels.

However, most of these submarines are old, built with 1950s technology and powered by diesel-electric, which means they can only stay submerged and hidden from radar for a few days at a time.

Since Kim Jong Un came to power in 2011 the North Korean military has accelerated efforts to modernize its submarine fleet, according to Jane’s Intelligence Review, a global security journal.

Pyongyang likely overstated the results of its SLBM capability to enhance Kim’s image within the country as it prepares for a rare and major ruling Workers Party congress in early May. The country's last major party congress was held in 1980.

And there has been speculation the North Koran military was under pressure to quickly conduct a successful test after a midrange land-based missile launch ended in catastrophic failure earlier this month.

Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in California, said it is important to distinguish between North Korea’s short-term failures and the looming threat in the future.

“On the one hand, yes, we should be cautious, and we shouldn’t overreact to what they’ve done. But nor should we let that cause us to slip into a kind of denial about what their goal is,” Lewis said.

North Korea’s strategic goals for developing nuclear missile strike capability from submarines is first for defense. Having an underwater nuclear arsenal would give Pyongyang a “second-strike” capability if the U.S. or South Korean forces attempted a preemptive attack against its land based missiles, according to analysts.

Developing a SLBM capability that is fitted with a nuclear warhead would also give North Korea the ability to strike against the U.S. mainland.

The U.S. Strategic Command, headquartered at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska in the central U.S., said in a statement that North Korea’s recent submarine missile launch "did not pose a threat to North America'' and that U.S. military forces "remain vigilant in the face of North Korean provocations and are fully committed to working closely with our Republic of Korea and Japanese allies to maintain security.''
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Outside looking in they call it a successful failure, without KNOWING what part of the launch and flight chain is being tested.

People need to get a BIT more concerned about what they are labeling "failures" without seeing the parameters FOR the "Test".

Just because you as an observer think the test failed, it may have been a rousing "proof of concept" success.

I recall a Nuke test that everyone and their uncle said was a clear abject failure at the time, which was re-evaluated over 5-6 months and determined to be a successful test of the first two stages of the physics package under development.

They got a solid fueled SLBM to actually take off, and ride for 30 Km....yep. Failure for sure.
 

Richard

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OK fine but no-one knows the truth of the matter, in the meantime they have more pressing problems, such as famine.............
 

Housecarl

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Outside looking in they call it a successful failure, without KNOWING what part of the launch and flight chain is being tested.

People need to get a BIT more concerned about what they are labeling "failures" without seeing the parameters FOR the "Test".

Just because you as an observer think the test failed, it may have been a rousing "proof of concept" success.

I recall a Nuke test that everyone and their uncle said was a clear abject failure at the time, which was re-evaluated over 5-6 months and determined to be a successful test of the first two stages of the physics package under development.

They got a solid fueled SLBM to actually take off, and ride for 30 Km....yep. Failure for sure.

Yeah.

Some things to consider assuming all the statements by the North Koreans are correct and the images of this test aren't doctored what are the take-aways?

- The big one is that they launched an SLBM from a submerged operational submarine without destroying the sub.

- The pictures of the missile leaving the tube/silo indicated that it and its launching apparatus are containerized, not sitting bare in the tube. Like a pre-loaded cartridge of ammunition.

- The missile pictured leaving the water is the same as that of the last test they released images of earlier. From the configuration of the top of the missile, it appears to be a single warhead weapon (at this time).

Ok, now into the realm of speculation....

- The downplaying of the test with regards to the distance of flight being "only" 18 miles. As you've pointed out, we don't know the actual parameters of the test. We don't know if this is a single or multiple stage system. We don't know if it was intentionally a "short round" for security reasons (it lands in their waters so no one else can recover it and see how it ticks).

- What if it was intentionally a "short round" with a full solid fuel load on a single stage system? That would indicate a full mastery of the technology. We haven't seen any reports of a testing program for this missile. It is very possible that the numerous "SCUD" and "Nodong" test and "protest" launches of late were in fact tests of this system.

- Though the submarine that's been involved in the tests is small in terms of consideration for deterrence patrols off of the US, it is perfectly sized for "regional" patrols to keep the pressure on Japan, South Korea and the US (along with potentially the PRC and Russia as well). Dimensionally it would likely fit sheltered facilities they've already got for their existing Romeo SSKs.

More later...The meat world calls.....
 
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Housecarl

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Something else to keep in mind.....From 2013.....

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-co...ly-about-missile-defense-edition-2446716.html

Quote of the Day: Independent Senator thinking independently about missile defense edition

Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:11


SEN. KING: One of the issues that I’ve been concerned about as I’ve been in these hearings is a growing submarine capability. It seems like everybody wants to have a submarine and a lot of countries do. I take it that this shield that we are constructing and have constructed would be effective against a submarine-launched missile which could be much closer.


How do we deal with a submarine-launched missile that would be a couple hundred miles off shore? Is that a different — is that a different issue and, again, it gets back to this East Coast issue. I can’t see how we could get a shield missile — an interceptor from Colorado or Alaska to protect the East Coast against a missile that’s launched from within 500 miles of the coast. Talk to me about submarines.


GEN. FORMICA: Actually, Senator, my assessment is that the ballistic missile defense system that’s in place and designed against an ICBM — a limited ICBM threat from North Korea and Iran.


SEN. KING: Not submarine-launched missiles


GEN. FORMICA: Not submarine-launched.



SEN. KING: What is our strategy with regard to submarine- launched missiles?


GEN. FORMICA: I’d have to take that for the record. We don’t have it. We don’t have a strategy. NORTHCOM commander has obviously identified that kind of threat as a concern and that is an area that he is concerned about.


SEN. KING: Madame Secretary?


MS. CREEDON: I just want to jump in for a minute. I think we probably should get you — this is a very complicated topic, to say the least.


SEN. KING: I’m figuring that out.


MS. CREEDON: And it isn’t just ICBMs. It’s also cruise missiles. But why don’t we make the offer to get you a briefing on some of the issues and complexities associated with a submarine threat off the coast, either coast of the U.S.?


SEN. KING: Absolutely. Well, I just — you know, I’m just trying to think like the enemy here. If you guys can stop intercontinentals, then I’m going to bring them in in another way. Of course we can have a whole different discussion about one that comes in in a suitcase into New York Harbor. But OK, well, I think that’s it, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. [emphasis mine.]

The above exchange amongst Sen. Angus King (I-ME), Madelyn R. Creedon, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs, and Lieutenant General Richard P. Formica, USA, Commander, U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command took place at the May 9 hearing of the Senate Strategic Forces Subcommittee on the FY 2014 missile defense budget request. Sen. King asked a number of other good questions at the hearing as well.

As our Senior Science Fellow Phil Coyle noted in a recent piece marking the 30th anniversary of President Reagan’s “Star Wars” speech, “Despite continuing Presidential support, U.S. ballistic missile defenses are hobbled by a never-changing set of intractable obstacles that have confounded the DoD for decades.” The responses to Sen. King’s questions powerfully illustrate a few important examples of these obstacles....

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TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Outside looking in they call it a successful failure, without KNOWING what part of the launch and flight chain is being tested.

People need to get a BIT more concerned about what they are labeling "failures" without seeing the parameters FOR the "Test".

Just because you as an observer think the test failed, it may have been a rousing "proof of concept" success.

I recall a Nuke test that everyone and their uncle said was a clear abject failure at the time, which was re-evaluated over 5-6 months and determined to be a successful test of the first two stages of the physics package under development.

They got a solid fueled SLBM to actually take off, and ride for 30 Km....yep. Failure for sure.

Exactly. A clear case of whistling past a graveyard.
 

Weps

Veteran Member
Without derailing this thread, can someone post a site (if such exists) where one can identify old Civil Defense locations?

I remember only that Clinton had them emptied and sold off their contents. Thought it a terrible idea, but then Reagan started the shut down of the strategic food supplies. The old west here is littered with empty grain silos that used to house a two year food supply for the country. Now nada.

Perhaps that would be a good new thread, if someone has the energy. I'm going back to work now. Perhaps there are old threads that already went over how to identify good Civil Defense locations.

We're on our own, buckos. Not likely to be included in the COG programs!

Here's some information you might be interested in;

http://www.civildefensemuseum.com/cdmuseum2/shelter.html
 

vestige

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Without derailing this thread, can someone post a site (if such exists) where one can identify old Civil Defense locations?

I remember only that Clinton had them emptied and sold off their contents. Thought it a terrible idea, but then Reagan started the shut down of the strategic food supplies. The old west here is littered with empty grain silos that used to house a two year food supply for the country. Now nada.

Perhaps that would be a good new thread, if someone has the energy. I'm going back to work now. Perhaps there are old threads that already went over how to identify good Civil Defense locations.

We're on our own, buckos. Not likely to be included in the COG programs!


Carter also emptied/abandoned a lot of civil defense facilities under his watch... for example:

The University of Kentucky has a vast network of underground utility tunnels (several miles of stand up, walk in sized). They were once fill with civil defense supplies. No more.

Today... more tunnels have been/are being built... zero civil defense applications.

Some (note only some) civil defense/civil disturbance structures have been built in Frankfort, KY for COG only (with harsh criticism BTW). Zero has been built for Joe 6 Pack.

You (we) truly are on your (our) own.


BTW... superb thread... needs its own territory.
 

Housecarl

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http://38north.org/2016/04/jschilling042516/

A New Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile for North Korea

By John Schilling
25 April 2016
Comments 3

Summary

North Korea has revealed images of a submarine-launched ballistic missile test indicating that it has abandoned the liquid-fuel design that has consistently failed in the past and switched to a more robust solid-propellant system that will have a better chance of actually working in an operational environment. The new design is still in the earliest stages of testing, and much work, including development of a full-scale motor, needs to be done. Nevertheless, the simpler design is likely to be less troublesome to develop and could be ready by 2020. The solid-propellant missile would have reduced performance, with a range of 900 km compared to 1600 km for a liquid-propellant version, but is still likely to meet North Korean requirement to pose a challenging threat to US allied defenses, primarily in Northeast Asia.

The New SLBM Test

On April 23, North Korea tested a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) for probably the fifth time and shown us pictures for the third time. They’re clearly learning from their mistakes. Unfortunately, part of what they are learning is to carefully frame the pictures they release so that we can’t be sure what they might have been hiding. The last time the North showed the world an SLBM test, it accidentally let slip a few frames of video that suggested the test was from a submerged barge rather than a submarine, and a few more showing that the missile had exploded shortly after launch. Pyongyang then made a clumsy cut to stock footage of a completely different missile flying into the heavens. This time, the pictures show what seems to have been a successful launch, but without enough detail to verify more than a few basic facts.

The US Strategic Command has confirmed that it detected a launch on April 23, with South Korean sources indicating that the missile had achieved a range of only 30 km. If all three governments say the missile was launched, we can conclude that a missile was launched. Almost certainly the US would detect and track such a launch by satellite, and it is possible that the South Korean Navy would have had a ship in place to track it by radar. But what are we to make of the short range?

In order to fly even 30 km, a ballistic missile has to not only launch successfully but accelerate well past the speed of sound. For a single-stage missile, those are the hard parts—once accomplished, the safe bet is that the missile will continue to accelerate until it runs out of fuel, and coast on a ballistic arc to its maximum range. There’s still the matter of arranging for the warhead to come down intact and close to the intended target, which isn’t trivial. But if the missile flew 30 km, there is a good chance it was only carrying fuel for 30 km. To be fair, after four failed test launches, one can understand the test crew not wanting to have a full 10 to 20 tons of rocket fuel falling on their heads, expensive barges or submarines.

Left: SLBM launch from May 8, 2015 (Photo: KCNA); right: SLBM launch from April 23, 2016. (Photo: Rodong Sinmun)
Left: SLBM launch from May 8, 2015 (Photo: KCNA); right: SLBM launch from April 23, 2016. (Photo: Rodong Sinmun)

Looking at the pictures we have, in last year’s test, the exhaust plume emerges from the nozzle in a narrow and almost translucent state that only 2 to 3 meters downstream develops into the classic yellow-orange streak of fire. The plume never expands much wider than the missile’s body, and dissipates about 20 meters downstream. This is a classic liquid-rocket plume, probably from an engine burning kerosene, and from the size, very likely North Korea’s Nodong engine.

The most recent test shows an almost incandescent white plume emerging fully-formed from the missile’s base, expanding significantly, and ultimately leaving a trail of light grey smoke. This looks like the same missile, but they clearly are not the same engines. It is very much like a classic solid rocket motor exhaust plume. And guess what? Just last month, North Korea showed the world a ground test of a solid-fuel rocket motor. Note the similar shape and color of the plume.

Solid-fuel engine testing on March 24, 2016. (Photo: Rodong Sinmun)
Solid-fuel engine testing on March 24, 2016. (Photo: Rodong Sinmun)

The motor from last month’s test, about 1.25 meters in diameter and 3 meters long, is too small for this missile. The KN-11 SLBM is 1.5 meters in diameter and a bit over 9 meters long, probably weighing almost 15 tonnes. This motor, as far as we know, the largest solid-fuel rocket motor North Korea has ever built, would probably get the KN-11 into the air, but it wouldn’t get it very far. A quick calculation suggests that such a combination would have a maximum range of about 30 km.

So why the switch, and what is the point of testing a missile with such a short range? To begin with, let’s note that the original configuration with the Nodong engine was perhaps the worst possible way to build an SLBM. It is what North Korea had when they began this program. If the North Koreans had kept at it, they would have probably found a way to make it work. The Russians, eventually made something similar work back in the 1960s, and we know the North Koreans hired some of the Russian engineers who did that. But liquid-fuel rockets and submarines are a bad mix, and the Nodong was never designed for that application.

In particular, when a missile is ejected from a submarine launch tube, any liquid propellant is going to slosh violently in the tanks, possibly with enough force to tumble the missile or rupture the tanks. And if the fuel inlet is uncovered for even an instant, the high-performance fuel pump of a typical liquid-fuel rocket will overspeed and destroy itself trying to suck air. Very likely, the rocket will explode shortly after igniting the engine. We have seen that at least once in the case of North Korea and it may have happened several other times we haven’t seen.

It is possible to overcome these challenges, as the Russians did with their R-27 submarine-launched ballistic missile. There is evidence that the North Koreans obtained this technology, and maybe even surplus missiles, from Russia. Earlier this month, the North displayed footage of a ground test of what appeared to be a pair of R-27 missile engines clustered together. And the R-27 missile was almost exactly the right size to fit in the launch tubes of North Korea’s GORAE-class missile submarine. So why not just use that missile the way it was meant to be used?

The obvious answer is that the last of those missiles were built over 30 years ago, and any that might have reached North Korea have probably endured some rough handling and careless storage along the way. While Pyongyang has never successfully flown a missile based on the R-27., there were reports of a failed launch earlier this month, which may have been a North Korean derivative called the Musudan. So, even if the North Koreans can make the engines work in a test stand, there’s still a lot of engineering to be done before the missiles can fly. There may also be a limited supply of ex-Soviet hardware to work with. And Kim Jong Un may want to show his submarine launching missiles this year, not 5 or 10 years from now.

Which brings us to what sensible engineers have been doing for years—if you want to launch ballistic missiles from submarines, it is almost certainly best to use solid-propellant motors. And not just because of the propellant slosh problem. Storable liquid rocket propellants are intensely corrosive, and if they leak, the fumes are extremely toxic—not a good combination in an enclosed space. Only the Russians ever made liquids work in that context and even they are now using solid propellant on their latest submarine-launched missiles.

North Korea presumably started down the path of making liquid-propellant submarine-launched ballistic missiles because, at the time, it couldn’t make solid-propellant motors big enough for the job but it did have Russian technical expertise in liquid-propellant missiles. But the North hasn’t had much success with the liquid-propellant option, and over in another corner of the DRPK’s arms industry, other scientists seem to have been making real progress in solid-fuel motors. So the North made the sensible engineering decision to cut its losses, stop trying to do things the hard way and go back to the drawing board with a new propulsion system, if not an entirely new missile.

What does this mean in terms of capabilities? First, if the North is switching from liquid to solid propellant, the missile is pretty entirely new even if it looks the same from the outside. Therefore, much of the progress the North has made so far will have been wasted effort. And second, the North Koreans probably still don’t have a motor that is really suitable for this missile. But they have likely already been working towards such a motor, because the one tested last month was clearly meant to be part of a two-stage system. So North Korea will lose some ground redesigning the missile, and may have to wait a year or two for a full-sized motor. But if it is already at the point of using the small motor to test the launch system, Pyongyang will probably be able to catch up pretty quickly. Last time I looked at North Korea’s SLBM program, I estimated they might have an operational system by 2020. If they’ve gone back to the drawing board, but settled on a simpler configuration and are already in early testing, that’s probably still a reasonable estimate.

In terms of performance, they probably will lose a bit. Liquid-propellant rocket engines, when they work, are lighter and more efficient than solids. And the KN-11 is probably not long enough to incorporate a second stage to make up the lost performance. In short, a liquid-propellant KN-11 missile would have probably flown 1600 km with a 650 kg warhead. A single-stage solid-propellant version will probably be good for only 900 km.

This range is still enough to reach all of South Korea and parts of Japan from North Korean territorial waters. If the boat ventures even a little ways into the Sea of Japan, it can reach targets anywhere in Japan. And the ability of North Korea’s submarine force to reach targets further afield has always depended on the ability of the submarines to reach the open sea, not on the range of the missiles. If a North Korean submarine can escape the Sea of Japan and come within 1600 km of Guam, or Hawaii, it can almost certainly cover an extra 700 km.

As with some of the other new technologies and systems North Korea has been introducing, a solid-propellant KN-11 SLBM is more likely to work reliably in an operational environment. Today, North Korea has an experimental testbed that reliably launched to a range of 30 km, maybe from a submarine or a submerged barge. We don’t know. But it is increasingly clear a real, albeit limited, submarine missile threat from North Korea will probably emerge by the year 2020.
 

Housecarl

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-un-idUSKCN0XM1YF

World | Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:57pm EDT
Related: World, United Nations

U.N. calls North Korea's missile test 'extremely troubling'


North Korea's submarine-launched ballistic missile test is "extremely troubling" and the United Nations urges Pyongyang to "cease any further provocative action," U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said on Monday.

North Korea said the missile test it conducted on Saturday was a "great success" that provided "one more means for powerful nuclear attack."

The U.N. Security Council on Sunday condemned the test and expressed serious concern that such activities contributed to North Korea's development of nuclear weapons delivery systems.

The submarine-launched ballistic missile test was the latest in a string of recent demonstrations of military might that began in January with North Korea's fourth nuclear test and included the launch of a long-range rocket in February.

The tests have increased tension on the Korean peninsula and angered North Korea's ally China. In March, the 15-member Security Council imposed harsh new sanctions on North Korea to starve it of money for its nuclear weapons program.

Dujarric told reporters the missile test was "extremely troubling as it constitutes another violation of relevant Security Council resolutions."

"We would urge the DPRK (North Korea) to cease any further provocative action," he said.


(Reporting by Michelle Nichols; Editing by Will Dunham)
 

Housecarl

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Hummm......

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-usa-state-idUSKCN0XN2I2

World | Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:33pm EDT
Related: World, United Nations

U.S. to eye 'other' options if North Korea continues nuclear activity: State Department

The U.S. State Department urged North Korea on Tuesday to refrain from actions that destabilize the region and said it would consider "other" options if Pyongyang continued its nuclear and ballistic missile testing.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner made the comment at a briefing after being asked about reports that North Korea may be planning more nuclear or missile tests.

Toner noted the United Nations had recently imposed some of its toughest sanctions on Pyongyang over its testing.

"We're going to look at other options as we move forward if North Korea continues with this kind of behavior," he said, declining to elaborate on what other steps Washington may be considering.


(Reporting by Lesley Wroughton and David Alexander; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
 

Housecarl

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Business | Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:33pm EDT
Related: World, South Korea, North Korea, Aerospace & Defense

North Korea reportedly readies another missile test launch


North Korea appears to be preparing a test-launch of an intermediate-range ballistic missile, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said on Tuesday, after what the United States described as the "fiery, catastrophic" failure of the first attempt.

Separately, President Barack Obama said the United States is working on defending itself and its allies against potential threats from what he called an "erratic" country with an "irresponsible" leader.

On April 15, the North failed to launch what was likely a Musudan missile, with a range of more than 3,000 km (1,800 miles), meaning it could, if launched successfully, hit Japan and also theoretically put the U.S. territory of Guam within range.

The Musudan missile, which can be fired from a mobile launcher, is not known to have been successfully flight-tested.

In a CBS interview that aired on Tuesday, Obama said the United States "is spending a lot more time positioning our missile development systems, so that even as we try to resolve the underlying problem of nuclear development inside of North Korea, we're also setting up a shield that can at least block the relatively low-level threats that they're posing now."

North Korea tested its fourth nuclear bomb on Jan. 6 and launched a long-range rocket on Feb. 7, both in defiance of U.N. resolutions. On Saturday, the North conducted a test of a submarine-launched ballistic missile.

"There are indications that the North may fire a Musudan missile that it launched and failed on Kim Il Sung's birthday on April 15," Yonhap quoted an unnamed government official as saying. Kim Il Sung is the North's founder.

North Korea needs a "powerful nuclear deterrence" to counter U.S. hostility and threats, North Korea's foreign ministry was quoted by the state news agency KCNA as saying on Tuesday.


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› U.S. to eye 'other' options if North Korea continues nuclear activity: State Department

"The U.S. continued pursuance of extreme hostile policy and nuclear threat and blackmail against the DPRK will only make the latter make drastic progress in bolstering nuclear attack capabilities," KCNA quoted a ministry spokesman as saying.

North and South Korea remain technically at war after their 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce, rather than a treaty. The North, whose lone major ally is neighbor China, routinely threatens to destroy South Korea and its major ally, the United States.

Obama said there "was no easy solution" to the North Korean threat, adding that while the United States "could destroy North Korea with our arsenals" there would not only be humanitarian costs but also a potential impact on South Korea.

The April 15 failure was seen as an embarrassing blow for current leader Kim Jong Un, Kim Il Sung's grandson, who has claimed several advances in weapons technology in recent months and is widely expected to conduct a fifth nuclear test soon.

South Korean Defence Ministry spokesman Moon Sang-gyun declined to confirm the Yonhap report but said the North's military would likely spend some time trying to fix the problem following the failed launch.

Experts see North Korea's Musudan test as part of an effort to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach the mainland United States.

"They are erratic enough, their leader is personally irresponsible enough that we don't want them getting close" to obtaining such weapons, Obama told CBS.


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› White House to 'ramp up' pressure on North Korea over nuclear activity

North Korea said its nuclear test in January was a hydrogen bomb, although that claim has been disputed by foreign governments and experts given the relatively small size of the blast.

North Korea said its submarine-launched ballistic missile test on Saturday was a "great success" that provided "one more means for powerful nuclear attack".

South Korea on Tuesday described the test, which sent a missile traveling about 30 km (18 miles), as a partial success.

The United States and South Korea began talks on possible deployment of a new missile-defense system, the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), after the latest North Korea nuclear and rocket tests.

Expanded U.N. sanctions aimed at starving North Korea of funds for its nuclear weapons program were approved in a unanimous Security Council vote in early March on a resolution drafted by the United States and China.


(Reporting by Jack Kim in Seoul; Additional reporting by Susan Heavey in Washington and Dominic Evans in London; Editing by Nick Macfie and Raissa Kasolowsky)
 
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