GOV/MIL New York's New Gov Threatens To Replace Unvaccinated Hospital Workers With 'Foreigners'

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
They are their own worst enemy. It's not that we didn't think that they were capable of this, we knew they were. Don't the nurses have a union? What's the union doing? Anything? Cricketts?

I think the ease and speed at which they threw healthcare workers who worked thru the pandemic under the bus will make an impact: a bunch of newly minted conservatives join the ranks.
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Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
I am not forgetting, which is why I said "I wouldn't put it past the Biden Handler's administration to try." However, I do think this is going to be a lot more complicated than she thinks it will be unless there is already some sort of "understanding" to bring people in with a special visa being looked at already.

This is totally possible, they did that in Ireland with nurses from the Philippines but they did have to get a special visa program up to do it. It didn't take all that long here, but Ireland is a much smaller country with different immigration rules, especially back then.
Being as outright illegal is no problem for them complicated is a walk in the park.

Again, they only follow rules/laws when they benefit ( or the cause does) from it.

I wish I had your optimism regarding this stuff. I just know they want us dead . ( Maybe not you in Ireland , at least not yet. )
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
A head line you can find out there:

"Catholic governor of New York invites Texans to have abortions in her state"

I never thought anyone could be more evil that Cuomo. But this lady is gonna beat him in the evil department.


Thats all about population control and reduction.
I have said in the past there are better ways to do that but it seem the TPTB will not do it as there is no money to be made from it, yes thats right they have to somehow turn huge a profit off from it.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
My personal experience with imported nurses has been very very bad!

Some years back My wife working as a nurse as the veterans administration and her and coworkers had issues with many foreigners that got a job working there as a nurse and its like they got their nursing license on the cheep and seem to know far less than they should. Many of these women think they struck it rich and sending piles of money back to family in their home country while living in a house they share with two or three other women.
So yeah they get their nursing license for LPN or RN rubber stamped just because they come from a foreign country and are somehow disadvantaged.
 

danielboon

TB Fanatic
Thanks, again, I don't see how she can really do this unless she has a huge supply of non-citizens, qualified workers (like nurses and med techs) who already have green cards.

Otherwise, she will need a special VISA waiver, which I wouldn't put past the Biden Administration trying by executive order but I suspect the courts would shut that down pretty quickly.
Afghanistan :rolleyes:
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
I have met a number of South African nurses that the Cleveland Clinic has imported over the years. HIGHLY CAPABLE...
and I could happily sit, tongue dragging on the floor, and listen to them talk....
,,, and these folks absolutely 'hate' 'mericun' blacks. Most are more in line with us conservatives than anyone wants to give credit.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Thanks, again, I don't see how she can really do this unless she has a huge supply of non-citizens, qualified workers (like nurses and med techs) who already have green cards.

Otherwise, she will need a special VISA waiver, which I wouldn't put past the Biden Administration trying by executive order but I suspect the courts would shut that down pretty quickly.
Panama…
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
And they’d better have valid vax cards, by gawd.
Why would they need that? The Afghan "refugees" the U.S. mil flew in (instead of U.S. citizens and U.S. military weapons and ammo that got left there) and hundreds of thousands of immivaders the Biden Administration is allowing pouring across the U.S.-Mex border have/had no such requirement.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Being as outright illegal is no problem for them complicated is a walk in the park.

Again, they only follow rules/laws when they benefit ( or the cause does) from it.

I wish I had your optimism regarding this stuff. I just know they want us dead . ( Maybe not you in Ireland , at least not yet. )
I am not optimistic, I just used to work in the State of Colorado Oversight Board for Worker's Compensation Insurance, then at the certification board for several different professions before working for the Federal Civil Service in the Bay Area both as a personnel clerk (Dept of Justice) and as a regular clerk with people who write the regulations to actually make the laws congress writes actually work on the ground.

So I have some experience with paperwork nightmares, especially when it comes to insurance and workplace regulation, then I both come from and married into a medical family, don't get my Father-in-law started on medical insurance companies!
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
I am not optimistic, I just used to work in the State of Colorado Oversight Board for Worker's Compensation Insurance, then at the certification board for several different professions before working for the Federal Civil Service in the Bay Area both as a personnel clerk (Dept of Justice) and as a regular clerk with people who write the regulations to actually make the laws congress writes actually work on the ground.

So I have some experience with paperwork nightmares, especially when it comes to insurance and workplace regulation, then I both come from and married into a medical family, don't get my Father-in-law started on medical insurance companies!
Thankfully you were able to free yourself from aiding the enemy
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Thankfully you were able to free yourself from aiding the enemy
That is kind of how I felt leaving the Department of so-called Justice, HHS wasn't as bad but then I mostly worked with people there who cared about other human beings. There wasn't always much they could do about it, but they did often try.

One thing I did learn from the HHS job is that Congress passes sweeping legislation but almost never explains how it is actually supposed to work or be enacted on the ground. So hundreds of specialists have to spend months writing "regulations" that seem to be what Congress "meant."

I won't go into that here, but sometimes on another thread I'll be happy to do so, I've mentioned it before, but not too recently I don't think.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Her very government says that they have to pass NY Nursing Boards to play in NY Hospitals...
No NY Board Cert, no NY Hospitalwork.
Last time I checked there weren't ANY 1-for-1 Reciprocoties available there.

Maric can correct me if I got it wrong.


Endorsement of Nursing Licenses

Who is Eligible for Endorsement of a License?

The New York State Education Department grants nursing licenses "by endorsement" to qualified registered professional nurses, licensed practical nurses or licensed vocational nurses. To qualify for endorsement applicants must have completed their nursing education in another state and be licensed in other states. Please note that New York State is not a "Nursing Compact State". Proof of acceptable education and verification of license from all states where you hold a license is required.

How do I apply for Licensure by Endorsement?

If you are licensed as an R.N. or L.P.N. in another state and have completed your professional nursing education in another state, you must submit the following:


*Additional coursework in Child Abuse Reporting and/or Infection Control may be required.

The National Council of State Boards of Nursing (NCSBN) handles verification of licensure for a majority of states through their Nurse System (Nursys). You can check to see if the state(s) where you are licensed as a nurse participates by checking Nursys list or by calling them at 1-866-819-1700.

If the state(s) where you are licensed as a nurse participates in Nursys, you must request verification of your licensure from Nursys, not the state(s).

If your state(s) of licensure does (do) not appear on the Nursys list, you must use the Form 3 - Verification of Other Professional Licensure/Certification to verify your licensure to New York State.

Please note, if you hold any other professional licenses in states other than New York, you must also use Form 3 - Verification of Other Professional Licensure/Certification to verify that licensure to New York State.

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What are Nursing Compact States?

The Nursing Licensure Compact (NLC) is an agreement between states that allows nurses to have one license but the ability to practice in other states that are part of the agreement.

Originally developed in 2000, by 2015 the license had grown to include 25 states. To help streamline the process for nurses the Enhanced Nursing Licensure Compact (eNLC) was implemented in 2018 and included standards for licensure which the originally compact license was lacking.

For example, the NLC did not require applicants to undergo state and federal fingerprint-based criminal background checks, whereas the new eNLC does.

Nursing Compact States (eNLC Members)

Here’s a comprehensive listing of all states currently impacted by multi-state compact licensing.

  • Alabama
  • Arizona
  • Arkansas
  • Colorado
  • Delaware
  • Florida
  • Georgia
  • Guam (Guam is allowing nurses who hold active, unencumbered, multi-state licenses issued by Nurse Licensure Compact member states to practice in Guam under their multi-state licenses.)
  • Idaho
  • Indiana
  • Iowa
  • Kansas
  • Kentucky
  • Louisiana (Registered Nurse and Practical Nurse)
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Mississippi
  • Missouri
  • Montana
  • Nebraska
  • New Hampshire
  • New Jersey (New Jersey is allowing nurses who hold active, unencumbered, multi-state licenses issued by Nurse Licensure Compact member states to practice in New Jersey under their multi-state licenses.)
  • New Mexico
  • North Carolina
  • North Dakota
  • Ohio (Law passed and awaiting implementation)
  • Oklahoma
  • Pennsylvania (Law passed and awaiting implementation)
  • South Carolina
  • South Dakota
  • Tennessee
  • Texas
  • Utah
  • Vermont (Implementation start 2/1/2022)
  • Virginia
  • West Virginia (Registered Nurse and Practical Nurse)
  • Wisconsin
  • Wyoming

Twenty-four of the original NLC states have enacted the eNLC or have pending legislation. Twelve additional states and Guam have pending legislation waiting for approval before joining the eNLC. For the first time, California and Washington both have pending legislation to join the eNLC. As of March 1, 2021, there are currently thirty-four states part of the eNLC. New Jersey has partial implementation as discussed below.

According to the NCBSN, the New Jersey Board of Nursing has been working to complete the final phase of eNLC implementation. The final phase of implementation is set to occur in 2021; however, no date or further information has been given.

COVID-19 Emergency Licensing Information by State

Twenty-four of the original NLC states have enacted the eNLC. Six additional states have pending legislation waiting for approval before joining the eNLC. Pennsylvania and Ohio have passed laws to join the eNLC; however, a start date has not been announced. Vermont, on the other hand, has stated that implementation of the compact license will start February 1st, 2022. As of July 6th, 2021, there are currently thirty-seven states and one territory that are part of the eNLC. New Jersey and Guam have partial implementation as discussed below.

According to the NCBSN, the New Jersey Board of Nursing has been working to complete the final phase of eNLC implementation. The final phase of implementation is set to occur in the second half of 2021; however, no date or further information has been given. Nurses residing in Guam will not be able to apply for a multistate license until 2022; however, nurses holding a multistate license in their home state may now utilize that license to practice in Guam.

Why are Nursing Compact States Important?

Goals were developed for every state to become a member of the NLC but there has been ongoing resistance from some states regarding the requirements for licensure. While the eNLC continues to grow, there are still states that still do not want to be included in the license. Even in states that have legislation pending there is some push back from the state nursing association.

The eNLC will continue to increase access to health care, reduce overall costs to insurance companies, hospitals, and individual patients, and support efficient and strong health care delivery.

The eNLC became effective on July 20, 2017, which allowed the Interstate Commission of Nurse Licensure Compact Administration to begin drafting appropriate rules and regulations for the new licensure.

In January 2018, the new multi-state licenses were issued to all nurses who applied to transition from the old license. New nurses getting their first license in an eNLC state will be able to practice in all eNLC states without delay. This option is highly effective for travelers who do not wish to waste time between contracts. Furthermore, it helps reduce costs on application fees and license renewals. Unfortunately, Hawaii is not currently part of the eNLC and does not have any pending legislation. Hawaii is one of the most desirable states for travel nurses in the U.S.

Each eNLC state is responsible to notify nurses by mail of the changes to the license and the process to obtain an enhanced compact license. As more states continue to join the eNLC, additional nurses will have the option to streamline if they hold multiple licenses.

What Do Nursing Compact States Mean For Nurses?

So what does this mean for nurses? Nurses who currently practice in states with pending legislation do not have to do anything until the bill(s) are passed. Once the state becomes a part of the eNLC, the state board will reach out to all nurses registered with the state. Nurses then will be required to ensure their permanent address is up to date with the state board in order to determine compact license eligibility.

Nurses that are NOT due for license renewal will not be required to pay an additional fee to transition to the eNLC. A new license will be issued to all nurses that meet requirements for the eNLC.

It is important to note that you must claim residency in an eNLC state in order to apply for a compact license. As a non-resident of an eNLC state, you can apply for licensure by endorsement for the state but will only be issued a single-state license instead of the compact license. Nurses can hold multiple single-state licenses.

New licensure nurses will still need to apply for a license via the state website. Applicants will then have the option to apply for the eNLC with their permanent address or apply for a single state license. If at any time your permanent address moves to a non-eNLC, you are required to submit this to the state nursing board and your eNLC could potentially be revoked.

Nurses are highly encouraged to sign up for the Nursys e-Notify system which delivers real-time notifications about updates to the eNLC. It also will deliver information regarding expirations, renewals, and disciplinary actions. This service is free of charge and is a patient safety initiative that is supported by the U.S. Board of Nurses and NCSBN. More information can be found at www.nursys.com.

In terms of continuing education (CE) requirements, a nurse holding an eNLC must meet the CE requirements for his or her own state. Each state, regardless of the eNLC, requires specific CE courses and a specific number of hours. Renewal requirements are only related to the state that issued the eNLC, not the state in which the nurse practices.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That is kind of how I felt leaving the Department of so-called Justice, HHS wasn't as bad but then I mostly worked with people there who cared about other human beings. There wasn't always much they could do about it, but they did often try.

One thing I did learn from the HHS job is that Congress passes sweeping legislation but almost never explains how it is actually supposed to work or be enacted on the ground. So hundreds of specialists have to spend months writing "regulations" that seem to be what Congress "meant."

I won't go into that here, but sometimes on another thread I'll be happy to do so, I've mentioned it before, but not too recently I don't think.

A feature not a bug. It puts the power to shape policy in the hands of the unelected, unfireable, true believers.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
She certainly had a lot of foreigners to choose from....Lets see...we've got Haitians, Afghans, ....no IDs, no medical training/education, no problem.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
There was a meem or a Tweet that: If the pandemic was real there would be no way health care workers would be fired.

During the 1918 Great Influence health care workers were dragged from their homes by Police to help with the pandemic whether they wanted to or not. On nurse escaped by hiding in a trunk.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
So that is where the President shipped all those Haitians etc "under the bridge at Del Rio TX" who disappeared so quickly.

Surely included many medical personnel ready and willing to work in NYC hospitals??
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
There was a meem or a Tweet that: If the pandemic was real there would be no way health care workers would be fired.

During the 1918 Great Influence health care workers were dragged from their homes by Police to help with the pandemic whether they wanted to or not. On nurse escaped by hiding in a trunk.
Posted on the Political Cartoon thread, twice, because it makes such an important point:

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TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
She is a smiling evil wolf in sheep's clothing. Can easily see through it and she spews hate. What she is suggesting/threatening is treasonous and traitorous. She should move to North Korea, doesn't belong governing anything or anybody here.
 
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