Tires Need help understanding

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Cardinal

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I need to purchase tires. Frequently. I do a lot of driving and they wear out fast, no matter how expensive, so I want cheap.
My car takes p255/50R17.
I assume these numbers stand for something.
Can y'all recommend a good website that explains in plain English what they stand for?
What I need to find out is, can I substitute a cheaper tire, and what numbers would work?
 

Publius

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I need to purchase tires. Frequently. I do a lot of driving and they wear out fast, no matter how expensive, so I want cheap.
My car takes p255/50R17.
I assume these numbers stand for something.
Can y'all recommend a good website that explains in plain English what they stand for?
What I need to find out is, can I substitute a cheaper tire, and what numbers would work?


The numbers are the tire size and it includes the width, diameter of the rim and hight of the tire from the rim to the outide surface. The (R) stands for Radal. (P) for Passanger car.
Some of the roads you travel most can have an effect on how long your tires will last, like tar and chip roads are a very ruff surface, these are almost always side streets and will eat your tires faster.
The best you can do is go for the higher milage rating and they want more for them too. Ask them to look at the tires before they pull them off and if they think the car may need a front end alinement and they can tell by the wear on the tire if it's out of alinement.
 

Illini Warrior

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the size you gave - and the tire rating - is the tire that you need and mounts to the rims you currently have - you could fudge around that "255" up or down a bit if tire inventory dictates ...

you can judge the tire construction and quality by the mileage warranty they are giving the tire - 25,000 - 50,000 - 75,000 - 100,000 ect ect - there's your price $$$$$ difference - doubt very much that buying cheaper but more often is going to suit you - usually you only do something like that in regard to when you'll be changing vehicles ...

where you can save is at the distributor - buys in volume but operates at low overhead - farm and truck outlets - Cosco type warehouses - ect ect
 

raven

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Many people look at the sidewall of the tires on the car when they go to purchase new - this may no be manufacturer's recommended size.
Check on the placard on the door frame to ensure you are getting the correct size.
be aware there is also a speed rating for tires as well as load rating.
And for the wear and longevity, passenger tires are also required to have Uniform Tire Quality Grading, commonly abbreviated as UTQG, is the term encompassing a set of standards for passenger car tires that measures a tire's treadwear, temperature resistance and traction.

I took the description below from the Discount Tire website. their site has descriptions of the various codes:
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/utqg
Treadwear

The rating for treadwear is a relative score given to a tire as an estimate of longevity. It is not a projected estimate of the mileage or tread life. Scores are determined by tire wear in closely controlled driving conditions. The rating for treadwear is given numerically, and is made in comparison to a reference tire given a 100. A tire that scores a 400 in treadwear should last twice as long as a tire with a 200. A comparable tire, made by a different manufacturer, may be given a score of 300.To reiterate; the scores for a comparable tire may vary from brand to brand. It is important, then, to only compare tire scores within a given brand. Actual treadwear may vary based on real-world use. Driving habits, proper air pressure, road conditions, and even climate can affect tread life.

Note: I has been my experience that longer wearing tires are not as quiet, don't have as smooth a ride, and don't necessarily grip the road as well. It seems like a quiet, smooth ride, that really hugs the road is achieved by rubbing off rubber resulting in a faster wear
 

tech

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P = passenger
255 = treadwidth in mm
50 = height of sidewall as a percentage of treadwidth. In your case sidewall is half as tall as the tread is wide
R = radial ply construction
17 = rim diameter

There are calculators online to do the math for you, but be cautioned...if your vehicle has antilock braking, different tire sizes can interfere with proper function, especially if you only change two tires. I've also seen mismatched tires create issues with electronically controlled transmissions.
 

Cardinal

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Thanks to all who replied, I appreciate the education! Locking the thread now.
 
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