CORONA More vaxx don’t work observations.

Imrik

Veteran Member
Well, here is some more direct observation on how well the death jab err vaxx works.

1. Brother in law. Got both Moderna shots and the booster. Sick as a dog right now with Covid. Said he couldn’t believe he got sick. Then normalcy bias kicks in and says “ I bet it would have been much worse if I hadn’t got the shot.

2. Wife’s cousin.
Same story

3 wife’s cousins mother
Same story.

They all got it at the same time. For the Christmas holidays.

4. Us. No jabs. No symptoms. Still standing.

That sad part is that now I’m sure they will want boosters every other week after this. Liberals they are.
 

day late

money? whats that?
Not quite as bad here, but this may just be the beginning. Mrs. late got the jab last spring. Over the past month or so she has been constantly complaining of different problems (besides me that is. ;) ) All of them internal where there is nothing I can do about them, and with increasing severity of the problem.
 

West

Senior
Vary similar experiences in our family. And think we all have had the COVID and it's variants. Our close family is almost a dozen individuals. None have been vaxed, and we have three preteen snotty nosed grandkids who infect us from their schools, etc....

Let the side of the family that has gotten vaxed, told us to stay home this Thanksgiving. And we did. They don't talk to us anti-vaxers much, so we don't know if they've been sick. Did hear one was leaking fluids badly. So bad that during their Thanksgiving get together she was embarrassed because the fluids was leaking all over the floor from her shoes. Evidently most of the fluids leaking from her was coming from her feet?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Vary similar experiences in our family. And think we all have had the COVID and it's variants. Our close family is almost a dozen individuals. None have been vaxed, and we have three preteen snotty nosed grandkids who infect us from their schools, etc....

Let the side of the family that has gotten vaxed, told us to stay home this Thanksgiving. And we did. They don't talk to us anti-vaxers much, so we don't know if they've been sick. Did hear one was leaking fluids badly. So bad that during their Thanksgiving get together she was embarrassed because the fluids was leaking all over the floor from her shoes. Evidently most of the fluids leaking from her was coming from her feet?

...from her SHOES?? What in the world fluid could leak from your shoes besides sweat? It's the first time I've ever heard of excessive sweating having anything to do with Covid-19.

Though I did hear once that our feet have the most sweat glands around and that's one of the body's biggest ways to flush toxins. Though that may have been more a marketing gimmick; I heard it from one of those "detox foot patch" commercials, though they could have been merely weaponizing the truth.
 

day late

money? whats that?
What bothers me is in the recent past, Mrs. late has complained about heart pains and certain female genital problems. She quit smoking on the day she found out our son was on his way, about 36 years ago. ALWAYS cooks from scratch and makes certain everything is healthy. Gets regular check-ups and nothing is ever really wrong. Maybe the cholesterol has gone up a point or two but still close to the normal range. Her blood pressure is much the same. She has no reason to complain of heart problems. But there they are. The female problems I'm willing to concede may be age related, but the timing of them showing up is rather odd.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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What bothers me is in the recent past, Mrs. late has complained about heart pains and certain female genital problems. She quit smoking on the day she found out our son was on his way, about 36 years ago. ALWAYS cooks from scratch and makes certain everything is healthy. Gets regular check-ups and nothing is ever really wrong. Maybe the cholesterol has gone up a point or two but still close to the normal range. Her blood pressure is much the same. She has no reason to complain of heart problems. But there they are. The female problems I'm willing to concede may be age related, but the timing of them showing up is rather odd.

Hate the word since I'm a victim of it ... hereditary.

Trust me, you can be doing everything right and your genes will still stab you in the back. Have her get the heart problems checked out. My dad had his first heart attack at 48. Note I said first heart attack.
 

West

Senior
...from her SHOES?? What in the world fluid could leak from your shoes besides sweat? It's the first time I've ever heard of excessive sweating having anything to do with Covid-19.

Though I did hear once that our feet have the most sweat glands around and that's one of the body's biggest ways to flush toxins. Though that may have been more a marketing gimmick; I heard it from one of those "detox foot patch" commercials, though they could have been merely weaponizing the truth.

I've read it's a side effects of the vax. And it's a slime, not sweat.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Owner had Covid - after getting two of the Pfizer shots.

His episode was mild - one day of fever in the 101.8 range, five days of malaise ("I feel like I have a fever but the thermometer shows normal.") Then his Covid Test - then three more days of limited activity, each day more "normal" as his energy levels returned.

Then (month ago) CDC guidelines was "10 day quarantine after symptoms end." Owner took this to be the fever - and was back in public on the 10th day.

He never developed congestion - although for a time he complained to me of a "wheeze" when he's sleeping or breathes shallow. I hear this morning the wheeze is much less so perhaps he's getting over that?

Owner has made comment that he thought having the "jab" made his Covid symptoms "less." - but he says he's not going back for a booster, no matter how complete the "ghosting."

"I'm a heart attack survivor" he says. "I want to subject myself again to an experimental therapy known for causing cardiac issues? I think NOT."

We'll see. If the government ties Social Security and Medicare to the jab - he might have to change his mind.

Dobbin
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
good friends down the mountain - he's vaxxed she's not . . . he got it 4 weeks ago and gave it to her. she recovered from the sore throat and runny nose in 3-4 days - he's still dealing with it - and not very well from the stand point of a non existent recovery
 

West

Senior

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Not quite as bad here, but this may just be the beginning. Mrs. late got the jab last spring. Over the past month or so she has been constantly complaining of different problems (besides me that is. ;) ) All of them internal where there is nothing I can do about them, and with increasing severity of the problem.

to beat a dead horse: Sounds like " Long Covid " Surely you know an over the counter horsey medication that might help. What does she have to lose.
 

Signwatcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Vary similar experiences in our family. And think we all have had the COVID and it's variants. Our close family is almost a dozen individuals. None have been vaxed, and we have three preteen snotty nosed grandkids who infect us from their schools, etc....

Let the side of the family that has gotten vaxed, told us to stay home this Thanksgiving. And we did. They don't talk to us anti-vaxers much, so we don't know if they've been sick. Did hear one was leaking fluids badly. So bad that during their Thanksgiving get together she was embarrassed because the fluids was leaking all over the floor from her shoes. Evidently most of the fluids leaking from her was coming from her feet?
You can have swelling in your legs (from CHF or other conditions) so bad that they “weep”.
My Uncle had Idiopathic Cirrhosis of the Liver. His legs swoll up to where they looked like elephant legs. Took him three times a week so his bandages could be changed...until Hospice came on board.

His legs leaked so bad the bandages would be soaked. He ended up sitting on a towel in his lift chair because they were leaking through the bandages.

Then, at the end the fluid retention moved up into the trunk of his body.

This was in an individual that only drank a 10 oz beer once a week at a regular Friday get-together.

It was horrible to watch and nothing could be done for him.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Idiopathic Cirrhosis of the Liver

AKA non alcholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) . . . something that's becoming increasingly common and yet remains relatively untreated in the population. its associated with our western diet, lack of excercise and possibly enhanced by your genetics, there's no real medication for it . . . it requires lifestyle and dietary change.

it was an incidental finding on an abdominal CT done when I was hospitalized subsequent to my ground level fall at home which ultimately required anterior cervical spine fusion at C5,6 and 7. in retrospect that fall was likely a blessing in disguise.

NALFD is a bit "dangerous" from the standpoint that it progresses silently and can become rather advanced before it ultimately becomes symptomatic and "discovered". probably genetic in my situation as I can recall my grandmother who passed from it in the mid 70's being quite upset when she was hospitalized and told she had cirrhosis. she'd never had a drink - of ANYTHING - in her entire life . . . but she was a heavy consumer of carbs, a diabetic,hypertensive and hyperlipidemic. she was angry and depressed becasue she felt that was being labeled a "closet alcoholic".

NAFALD causes inflammatory response in the liver which then progresses to fibrotic change and there after may lead to either cirrhosis or liver cancer. I was shocked to be told I had "fatty liver disease" . . . you can easily have it and yet be reasonably thin on the outside - its the fat around your organs that's causative. I've been successful in reversing the bulk of mine thru diet - counterintuitively thru KETO and intermittent fasting - which has dramatically improved my metabolic panel. I dropped from187 ish to 165 - BELOW what I weighed when I graduated from high school (180). new years day I ate my first white potato since late March. I had 2 small sweet potatoes thanksgiving day and I haven't had ANY bread, crackers, pasta or pizza since late march of 21. I do not drink and never really did consume much alcohol.

IF you're bumping up against this beast known as "metabolic syndrome" - high blood pressure, high blood triglycerides, low levels of HDL cholesterol and insulin resistance - with or without obesity - you might want to ask your PCP about NAFLD. in retrospect I've known 3 people who died from NAFLD over the past few years.

last but not least - to illustrate just how pervasive this has become in the population - when I had my limited abdominal ultrasound followed by a HIDA scan this past June, the tech told me that she'd done THREE young adults that week with fatty liver disease - one of which was a13 YO and another under 18 with disease that was quite advanced. I was gobsmacked to say the least.

if you think you might be a candidate, talk to your PCP about it. a good hint is recurrent rt upper quadrant abdominal discomfort - just under the ribs and a sense of "fullness" in your liver . . .

ETA: now that the "holly-daze" are over I'm solidly back on KETO and intermittent fasting - don't want that nastiness back EVER again
 
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WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
What bothers me is in the recent past, Mrs. late has complained about heart pains and certain female genital problems. She quit smoking on the day she found out our son was on his way, about 36 years ago. ALWAYS cooks from scratch and makes certain everything is healthy. Gets regular check-ups and nothing is ever really wrong. Maybe the cholesterol has gone up a point or two but still close to the normal range. Her blood pressure is much the same. She has no reason to complain of heart problems. But there they are. The female problems I'm willing to concede may be age related, but the timing of them showing up is rather odd.

Covid jabs have two major life threatening adverse reactions: 1) Heart issues (swelling of heart lining) and 2) Blood Clots

Take her to a cardiac specialist to at least get a routine checkup.
 

Signwatcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
AKA non alcholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) . . . something that's becoming increasingly common and yet remains relatively untreated in the population. its associated with our western diet, lack of excercise and possibly enhanced by your genetics, there's no real medication for it . . . it requires lifestyle and dietary change.

it was an incidental finding on an abdominal CT done when I was hospitalized subsequent to my ground level fall at home which ultimately required anterior cervical spine fusion at C5,6 and 7. in retrospect that fall was likely a blessing in disguise.

NALFD is a bit "dangerous" from the standpoint that it progresses silently and can become rather advanced before it ultimately becomes symptomatic and "discovered". probably genetic in my situation as I can recall my grandmother who passed from it in the mid 70's being quite upset when she was hospitalized and told she had cirrhosis. she'd never had a drink - of ANYTHING - in her entire life . . . but she was a heavy consumer of carbs, a diabetic,hypertensive and hyperlipidemic. she was angry and depressed becasue she felt that was being labeled a "closet alcoholic".

NAFALD causes inflammatory response in the liver which then progresses to fibrotic change and there after may lead to either cirrhosis or liver cancer. I was shocked to be told I had "fatty liver disease" . . . you can easily have it and yet be reasonably thin on the outside - its the fat around your organs that's causative. I've been successful in reversing the bulk of mine thru diet - counterintuitively thru KETO and intermittent fasting - which has dramatically improved my metabolic panel. I dropped from187 ish to 165 - BELOW what I weighed when I graduated from high school (180). new years day I ate my first white potato since late March. I had 2 small sweet potatoes thanksgiving day and I haven't had ANY bread, crackers, pasta or pizza since late march of 21. I do not drink and never really did consume much alcohol.

IF you're bumping up against this beast known as "metabolic syndrome" - high blood pressure, high blood triglycerides, low levels of HDL cholesterol and insulin resistance - with or without obesity - you might want to ask your PCP about NAFLD. in retrospect I've known 3 people who died from NAFLD over the past few years.

last but not least - to illustrate just how pervasive this has become in the population - when I had my limited abdominal ultrasound followed by a HIDA scan this past June, the tech told me that she'd done THREE young adults that week with fatty liver disease - one of which was a13 YO and another under 18 with disease that was quite advanced. I was gobsmacked to say the least.

if you think you might be a candidate, talk to your PCP about it. a good hint is recurrent rt upper quadrant abdominal discomfort - just under the ribs and a sense of "fullness" in your liver . . .

ETA: now that the "holly-daze" are over I'm solidly back on KETO and intermittent fasting - don't want that nastiness back EVER again
Ironically, Uncle was a health enthusiast. Played basketball on an older league into his early 80s. He did everything right...his genes were against him.
 
Vary similar experiences in our family. And think we all have had the COVID and it's variants. Our close family is almost a dozen individuals. None have been vaxed, and we have three preteen snotty nosed grandkids who infect us from their schools, etc....

Let the side of the family that has gotten vaxed, told us to stay home this Thanksgiving. And we did. They don't talk to us anti-vaxers much, so we don't know if they've been sick. Did hear one was leaking fluids badly. So bad that during their Thanksgiving get together she was embarrassed because the fluids was leaking all over the floor from her shoes. Evidently most of the fluids leaking from her was coming from her feet?
that is really creepy.
Good grief, we lived in Northern VA for gosh, like 55 years, this has happened with some frequency for the last 30+ years that I can recall - it's not unheard of. About 35 years ago or so my DBIL got stuck on 95 overnight. Fortunately he traveled frequently for business and always had extra clothes, blankets, food and water in his car and kept his gas tank topped up enroute. Others around him on the interstate were not so lucky, and he shared food and water when he could.

They should have called out the Guard, hard to believe they wouldn't. At least they could have gotten folks off the interstate with their heavier equipment and to some level of safety and warmth. I've read stories this morning of people leaving their cars on I95 and starting to walk on the interstate in the middle of the night...likely not dressed well enough for the weather and without food and water. This is unacceptable.
and need a pee Tupperware.
Remember - liberals are never wrong. If they ARE ever wrong, they deny it and double-down. If you keep pressing, they fly into a rage.

Liberals are not sane.
I hate liberals!!!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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AKA non alcholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) . . . something that's becoming increasingly common and yet remains relatively untreated in the population. its associated with our western diet, lack of excercise and possibly enhanced by your genetics, there's no real medication for it . . . it requires lifestyle and dietary change.

it was an incidental finding on an abdominal CT done when I was hospitalized subsequent to my ground level fall at home which ultimately required anterior cervical spine fusion at C5,6 and 7. in retrospect that fall was likely a blessing in disguise.

NALFD is a bit "dangerous" from the standpoint that it progresses silently and can become rather advanced before it ultimately becomes symptomatic and "discovered". probably genetic in my situation as I can recall my grandmother who passed from it in the mid 70's being quite upset when she was hospitalized and told she had cirrhosis. she'd never had a drink - of ANYTHING - in her entire life . . . but she was a heavy consumer of carbs, a diabetic,hypertensive and hyperlipidemic. she was angry and depressed becasue she felt that was being labeled a "closet alcoholic".

NAFALD causes inflammatory response in the liver which then progresses to fibrotic change and there after may lead to either cirrhosis or liver cancer. I was shocked to be told I had "fatty liver disease" . . . you can easily have it and yet be reasonably thin on the outside - its the fat around your organs that's causative. I've been successful in reversing the bulk of mine thru diet - counterintuitively thru KETO and intermittent fasting - which has dramatically improved my metabolic panel. I dropped from187 ish to 165 - BELOW what I weighed when I graduated from high school (180). new years day I ate my first white potato since late March. I had 2 small sweet potatoes thanksgiving day and I haven't had ANY bread, crackers, pasta or pizza since late march of 21. I do not drink and never really did consume much alcohol.

IF you're bumping up against this beast known as "metabolic syndrome" - high blood pressure, high blood triglycerides, low levels of HDL cholesterol and insulin resistance - with or without obesity - you might want to ask your PCP about NAFLD. in retrospect I've known 3 people who died from NAFLD over the past few years.

last but not least - to illustrate just how pervasive this has become in the population - when I had my limited abdominal ultrasound followed by a HIDA scan this past June, the tech told me that she'd done THREE young adults that week with fatty liver disease - one of which was a13 YO and another under 18 with disease that was quite advanced. I was gobsmacked to say the least.

if you think you might be a candidate, talk to your PCP about it. a good hint is recurrent rt upper quadrant abdominal discomfort - just under the ribs and a sense of "fullness" in your liver . . .

ETA: now that the "holly-daze" are over I'm solidly back on KETO and intermittent fasting - don't want that nastiness back EVER again
Pediatricians are seeing large numbers of preteens with this.... I've been certain for years the high fructose corn syrup in the diet is the major cause...

Summerthyme
 
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