CORP/BIZ MLB Ok's A's move to Las Vegas
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desertvet2
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Cali dont care.
The foreigners will own it all soon anyways.
The foreigners will own it all soon anyways.
The Hammer
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The A's have now moved from Philly to KC to Oakland, now Vegas.
Vegas is a popular destination, with the Oakland Raiders having recently moved there.
If I were the A's, I'd want to get out too. Their stadium has been a dump for probably at least 30 years. And on top of that they had to play on Oakland.
Vegas is a popular destination, with the Oakland Raiders having recently moved there.
If I were the A's, I'd want to get out too. Their stadium has been a dump for probably at least 30 years. And on top of that they had to play on Oakland.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
Well, now they have a stadium to use as housing for all the homeless they moved out off the streets of San Francisco.
@Housecarl - This thread needs more content.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
I'm thinking that Vegas is going to become a popular "Let's go watch our home team play in another city" vacation spot. Madame Wildweasel mentioned us spending a week in Vegas when the Braves play the As after the move.
A lot more tempting than going to see a game in New York City, Philly, Milwaukee or Houston. I think right now only San Diego is such a baseball fan vacation spot, maybe Miami, where there are other draws for out of town fans.
A lot more tempting than going to see a game in New York City, Philly, Milwaukee or Houston. I think right now only San Diego is such a baseball fan vacation spot, maybe Miami, where there are other draws for out of town fans.
Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
the Cubs played a series out there this summer - Holy crap - I think the team staff and players outnumbered the fans and half the fans were Cub Blue .....
how the heck they could pay the bills with games like that is a mystery ....
how the heck they could pay the bills with games like that is a mystery ....
The Hammer
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I'd consider Wrigley in Chicago or Fenway in Boston as places to go if I happened to be in town already. I've done that once for Wrigley, and it's a neat spot to take in a game. Plus the history you get in those two parks is unequaled, with I think Dodger Stadium being the next oldest (a distant third).
But I agree on Vegas. I bet there'll be a lot of out of town "fans" who were in already to do some gambling. Plus, with proximity to CA, you might even get some who drive over for a weekend.
Now, if the A's don't improve their team drastically, not sure how many will be motivated to come watch. Out of towners watching the road team likely won't be enough.
bev
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Oakland A’s officially approved for relocation to Las Vegas after unanimous MLB owners vote
Big-league baseball is on its way to Sin City.
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Donghe Surfer
Veteran Member
Only big pro thing left in Oaktown are the Warriors.
And that's for now.....
The key thing for the deal IMHO, is getting any MLB team into Vegas. It gives people one more excuse to go there and leave more money that not at the casinos.
The real "fix" will be in if most of the home games are either on the weekend or Monday/Friday.....
Hawkgirl_70
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This has been expected to happen since last season.
As a lifetime fan of the Cardinals, I've read many, many comments over the past few years that the Colosseum is a dump and terrible sewer problems as well.
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By Steve Adams | November 16, 2023 at 8:22am CDT
Major League Baseball’s owners have unanimously voted to approve the Athletics’ move from Oakland to Las Vegas, tweets John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle. The approval was seen as something of a formality, with little — if any — opposition from the sport’s other owners anticipated.
The Athletics’ current lease at the Coliseum only runs through the end of the 2024 season, which leaves plenty of questions about where the club will play its home games in the interim. Among the potential scenarios that have been discussed are sharing the Giants’ Oracle Park, playing home games at their Triple-A stadium in Las Vegas, or temporarily extending the current lease. The current plan, while not yet final, could see them split their time between multiple sites, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. The Athletics plan to build a $1.5 billion stadium with a capacity of 33,000 on the Las Vegas strip, at the site of the Tropicana Casino. That new home, however, is not expected to be ready until the start of the 2028 season.
With the valuation of the Athletics’ franchise slated to rise following the move, Nightengale further reports that the remaining owners included a provision with their vote that team owner John Fisher would be taxed “heavily” on any sale if he ultimately strives to sell the club for an immediate profit. The magnitude of the tax isn’t clear, nor is the length of time for which he’ll need to retain ownership of the team before he is exempt from said taxation. In such an event, the amount that he’s taxed would be divided among the other 29 franchises.
It’s the first relocation of any Major League team since the Expos moved from Montreal to Washington D.C. in 2005 (and, of course, became the Washington Nationals). The move from Oakland to Vegas, while still not yet 100% official — hurdles remain to be cleared with the funding and construction of the new facility — will bring a 55-year run in Oakland to an end and leave Northern California as the sole territory of the cross-bay Giants.
The Athletics’ stadium outlook and potential relocation bid has been an ongoing source of drama over the past decade-plus, as the A’s have sought a move from their dilapidated environs in the Coliseum. Previous efforts to move to San Jose were protested by the Giants, claiming that to be an infringement on their territory. The A’s had similarly explored new facilities at various spots around the city, including a new stadium at the current site and, most recently, a new waterfront development in Oakland’s Howard Terminal neighborhood.
Whether those efforts were explored in good faith is debatable; Oakland mayor Sheng Thao has vocally disputed assertions from both Fisher and MLB commissioner that the Howard Terminal scenario was pursued to its fullest extent — instead contending that Fisher never had interest in remaining in Oakland and had been intent on a Vegas move all along.
Regardless, at this point in the process it’s largely a moot point. The move to Oakland is overwhelmingly likely at this point, marking the third recent loss of a major sports franchise for the city of Oakland, which has seen the NBA’s Warriors move across the bay to San Francisco and the NFL’s Raiders move to Las Vegas. The city of Las Vegas, meanwhile, has seen an influx of professional sports teams in recent years. In addition to the Raiders and the likely move of the Athletics, the NHL’s Golden Knights expansion franchise joined the league in 2017.
Heading into the 2024 season, A’s fans will be in an odd position — knowing full well that the relocation they’ve dreaded now looms and facing limited opportunities to cheer on the club they’ve followed for more than five decades (their entire lives, in many instances). At the same time, many will be loath to offer their money to further support an ownership group by whom they understandably feel jilted and betrayed. Beyond that, the team made little effort to field anything resembling a competitive product in recent years, tearing down the core of a team that went 316-230 from 2018-21 and made the playoffs on three straight occasions — including consecutive 97-win campaigns in 2018-19.
That slate of trades hasn’t produced any meaningful level of talent, and payroll has remained near the bottom of the league. Last year’s A’s flirted with a pace for the worst record in MLB history for the season’s first few months, and there’s no indication that ownership will approve any pushes to remedy the situation by allotting more resources to its baseball operations staff this offseason. It’s a bleak time for the Oakland faithful, as the book on their stay in the Bay Area is now on the cusp of closing with an unsatisfying and tumultuous final chapter.
As a lifetime fan of the Cardinals, I've read many, many comments over the past few years that the Colosseum is a dump and terrible sewer problems as well.
MLB Owners Unanimously Approve Athletics' Move To Las Vegas
Major League Baseball's owners have unanimously voted to approve the Athletics' move from Oakland to Las Vegas, tweets John Shea …
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By Steve Adams | November 16, 2023 at 8:22am CDT
Major League Baseball’s owners have unanimously voted to approve the Athletics’ move from Oakland to Las Vegas, tweets John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle. The approval was seen as something of a formality, with little — if any — opposition from the sport’s other owners anticipated.
The Athletics’ current lease at the Coliseum only runs through the end of the 2024 season, which leaves plenty of questions about where the club will play its home games in the interim. Among the potential scenarios that have been discussed are sharing the Giants’ Oracle Park, playing home games at their Triple-A stadium in Las Vegas, or temporarily extending the current lease. The current plan, while not yet final, could see them split their time between multiple sites, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. The Athletics plan to build a $1.5 billion stadium with a capacity of 33,000 on the Las Vegas strip, at the site of the Tropicana Casino. That new home, however, is not expected to be ready until the start of the 2028 season.
With the valuation of the Athletics’ franchise slated to rise following the move, Nightengale further reports that the remaining owners included a provision with their vote that team owner John Fisher would be taxed “heavily” on any sale if he ultimately strives to sell the club for an immediate profit. The magnitude of the tax isn’t clear, nor is the length of time for which he’ll need to retain ownership of the team before he is exempt from said taxation. In such an event, the amount that he’s taxed would be divided among the other 29 franchises.
It’s the first relocation of any Major League team since the Expos moved from Montreal to Washington D.C. in 2005 (and, of course, became the Washington Nationals). The move from Oakland to Vegas, while still not yet 100% official — hurdles remain to be cleared with the funding and construction of the new facility — will bring a 55-year run in Oakland to an end and leave Northern California as the sole territory of the cross-bay Giants.
The Athletics’ stadium outlook and potential relocation bid has been an ongoing source of drama over the past decade-plus, as the A’s have sought a move from their dilapidated environs in the Coliseum. Previous efforts to move to San Jose were protested by the Giants, claiming that to be an infringement on their territory. The A’s had similarly explored new facilities at various spots around the city, including a new stadium at the current site and, most recently, a new waterfront development in Oakland’s Howard Terminal neighborhood.
Whether those efforts were explored in good faith is debatable; Oakland mayor Sheng Thao has vocally disputed assertions from both Fisher and MLB commissioner that the Howard Terminal scenario was pursued to its fullest extent — instead contending that Fisher never had interest in remaining in Oakland and had been intent on a Vegas move all along.
Regardless, at this point in the process it’s largely a moot point. The move to Oakland is overwhelmingly likely at this point, marking the third recent loss of a major sports franchise for the city of Oakland, which has seen the NBA’s Warriors move across the bay to San Francisco and the NFL’s Raiders move to Las Vegas. The city of Las Vegas, meanwhile, has seen an influx of professional sports teams in recent years. In addition to the Raiders and the likely move of the Athletics, the NHL’s Golden Knights expansion franchise joined the league in 2017.
Heading into the 2024 season, A’s fans will be in an odd position — knowing full well that the relocation they’ve dreaded now looms and facing limited opportunities to cheer on the club they’ve followed for more than five decades (their entire lives, in many instances). At the same time, many will be loath to offer their money to further support an ownership group by whom they understandably feel jilted and betrayed. Beyond that, the team made little effort to field anything resembling a competitive product in recent years, tearing down the core of a team that went 316-230 from 2018-21 and made the playoffs on three straight occasions — including consecutive 97-win campaigns in 2018-19.
That slate of trades hasn’t produced any meaningful level of talent, and payroll has remained near the bottom of the league. Last year’s A’s flirted with a pace for the worst record in MLB history for the season’s first few months, and there’s no indication that ownership will approve any pushes to remedy the situation by allotting more resources to its baseball operations staff this offseason. It’s a bleak time for the Oakland faithful, as the book on their stay in the Bay Area is now on the cusp of closing with an unsatisfying and tumultuous final chapter.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Attendance at ball games doesn't pay ANY bills, it's the TV & RADIO that covers the bills.
My bad.....
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A's owner John Fisher, Rob Manfred claim they tried to keep team in Oakland before Las Vegas move: 'Untenable'
MLB owners voted unanimously Thursday morning to approve the move
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A's owner John Fisher, Rob Manfred claim they tried to keep team in Oakland before Las Vegas move: 'Untenable'
MLB owners voted unanimously Thursday morning to approve the move
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By Matt Snyder
5 hrs ago•2 min read
The big news in the Major League Baseball world on Thursday was the official vote by owners to approve the Athletics move from Oakland to Las Vegas. The A's are set to have a new ballpark -- if things go according to plan -- on the Vegas strip for the 2028 season, so they'll still need to figure out where to play before then.
Thursday, from the MLB owners meetings, commissioner Rob Manfred and A's owner John Fisher held a joint press conference on what will be the first relocation in Major League Baseball since the Montreal Expos became the Washington Nationals. In particular, both claimed that Fisher and the A's had done all they could to keep the team in Oakland, despite local leaders fighting hard to keep the club. CBS Sports' Dayn Perry previously wrote about Fisher's efforts to get what he wanted.
Here are some of the notable comments from Manfred and Fisher.
- Manfred: "I know, I know this is a terrible day for fans in Oakland. I understand that. That's why we always had a policy of doing everything humanly possible to avoid a relocation, and I truly believe we did that in this case." (Via Evan Drellich) "I think it's beyond debate that the status quo in Oakland was untenable … I am absolutely convinced there was not a viable path forward."
- Fisher, via Drellich: "I understand that it is an incredibly difficult day for Oakland fans and I just want to say we … did everything we could to try to find a solution there and it was only the last couple years we started to turn our attention to another market."
- Manfred on waiving the relocation fee for the A's: "We felt that a relocation fee in this particular situation was inappropriate," he said (via Bill Shaikin). Manfred further discussed that he wants Las Vegas to feel the league is behind the A's.
- Manfred on Fisher: "Over the long haul, yes, I think he has been a good owner." (Shaikin)
As for an expansion team, Manfred said, "we don't even know if we're going to have an expansion process." (Shaikin)
Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
that's a joke - you get 40K attending regular and that's real $$ - the VIP sections at the ballparks pay for a few of the major salaries alone >>> if the attendance $$$ didn't matter - the parks would be totally different in design & function
Warriors were drawin' good crowds in Oakland but SF lured 'em with a new arena a couple of years ago.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
If it's mezzanined, Cali could get about 9-10 tiers of bed space in there . . . . . . . good use of space
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Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
I don't remember what stadium/ballpark it is in Vegas - but they've been playing exhibition games for years in Vegas - surprised they can't play there
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
2 reasons.... It's too small, only holds about 10,000 seats.
But the main reason, it's Oakland's Triple A affiliate.
They wouldn't have a place to play on short notice.
Zagdid
Veteran Member
Pete Rose, Pete Rose! Please pick up the nearest courtesy phone.
Southside
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Chicago fans travel well.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
They took down the Tropicana to build this thing. Third oldest casino in Vegas, gone.
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
Las Vegas still has NO WATER source that is reliable
So is California going to charge the team and individual members their new “rich people leaving” tax?
I wouldn't put it past Sacramento....