Envr Mississippi River Spring flooding underway

WalknTrot

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And I look outside this morning and see nothing but white. There's a lot more still locked in the snowpack up here.
Looking for barge traffic to be seriously munged until the first of June. (WT.)



Mississippi in Downtown (St. Paul, MN) Reaches Major Flood Stage; Crest Due Friday​

By FREDERICK MELO | fmelo@pioneerpress.com | Pioneer Press

PUBLISHED: April 21, 2023 at 5:34 p.m. | UPDATED: April 23, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.

Rising flood waters are expected to plateau, then crest at 18.8 feet - not far below top 10 status - on Friday

  • Flood waters cover a brench


    • A flood wall, foreground, holds back the St. Croix River from flooding downtown Stillwater.


    • Flood waters come up to the entrance of a building

    • Men on a small boat work on the bridge

      Minnesota Department of Transportation crews work to clear debris from around the Stillwater Lift Bridge as the flood-swollen St. Croix River passes the historic bridge in Stillwater on Friday, April 21, 2023. (John Autey / Pioneer Press)
Fed by fresh rain, the Mississippi River in downtown St. Paul reached the major flood stage of 17 feet late Friday night, flooding the Clarence W. Wigington Pavilion, picnic tables, parklands and other low-lying areas beneath Water Street nearly to the Harriet Island playground.

The National Weather Service has repeatedly revised forecasts for the river’s crest, with the latest estimates calling for the river waters to plateau by Monday before rising again to peak at 18.8 feet next Friday, April 28. The river would have to surpass 19.02 feet — recorded on March 29, 2011 — to reach a historic top 10 crest level.

In 2014 and 2019, the river surpassed 20 feet downtown, touching the bottom of the swings within the Harriet Island playground. The highest crest ever recorded in downtown St. Paul was 26.01 feet on April 16, 1965.

A winter for the record books brought more than 90 inches of snow followed by rapid melt, previously leading the National Weather Service to predict the Mississippi River to crest around April 17, but the date was repeatedly revised outward given more than an inch of rainfall since Tuesday afternoon.

Both St. Paul and Ramsey County recently declared precautionary flood emergencies, triggering their emergency response authority, coordination with key partners such as the state of Minnesota and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the potential to qualify for federal reimbursement down the line if a federal emergency is declared.

In a lengthy social media thread featuring some 35 photos and videos, St. Paul City Council Member Mitra Jalali on Monday chronicled city flood preparations at Harriet Island, Raspberry Island and the Watergate Marina.

Among precautionary steps, city workers hoisted an elevator from its mechanicals inside the Wigington Pavilion and removed additional machinery from the building. During flooding in 2014, a large, decorative clamshell about the height of a child floated away down the river from the smaller of the two Harriet Island playgrounds. This time, it’s been secured to a nearby tree with a sturdy safety line.

Crews have deployed and extended a temporary floodwall at Holman Field, St. Paul’s downtown municipal airport.

With Childs Road shut down for flooding across the river from the airport, the Metropolitan Council recently constructed a temporary elevated road so essential staff can safely reach its wastewater treatment plant, which sits at one of the lowest points in the Twin Cities. The gravity-fed plant, which treats 75% of the wastewater generated in the seven-county metro, is surrounded by a wall designed to protect it from a 500-year flood.

More information about St. Paul’s flood response is available online at stpaul.gov/flood.

Meanwhile, in Stillwater, the St. Croix River was just below major flood stage of 89 feet late Friday night.

The St. Croix is expected to crest Monday at 89.7 feet. That would equal the sixth highest crest in the river’s recorded history. The all-time record remains 94.1 feet on April 18, 1965.
 
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homecanner1

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updates

- Dubuque all lock gates are now wide open

- Hannibal Emergency Management

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On Wednesday 4/26/23 all five levee gates will be installed. This is due to crest predictions of 21.9 feet. This is classified as minor, however at this level we will see impacts at Nipper Park, and areas outside the levee like the soccer fields. Please note there may be some minor traffic disruptions.
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- Galena, IL Mary Grant '...Galena, Illinois is near a back-water called Ferry's Landing and we've never seen the river so high there. The Galena River has been over its banks for 3 days and the Ole' Miss hasn't crested yet!
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-Prairie du Chien to DeSoto Wisc side Great River Road closed in portions sometime today by 2 pm per Crawford Co. Highway Commissioner

- Harpers Ferry to Lansing Iowa, Great River Road closed, Black Hawk Bridge to Wisc closed this morning, sandbar going under water there.

Comprehensive upper Midwest weather forecast from Ryan Hall, rain Thursday for Wisconsin then the weekend brings more rain, plummeting temps and more snow on Sunday. This will be our 3rd April snowstorm up here. 8:25 runtime

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51j8ta1-FA
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
So, given what Ryan sees coming, the estimates for cresting in the upper Miss regions have been tossed into a cocked hat!!????

Yep. I just posted an update from Max Velocity in my severe weather thread and this storm system is gaining some serious momentum. Not good for anyone living along a major river valley especially the Mississippi, in the midwest, right now.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
The Cajun Navy best be changing the oil in their outboards, and finishing refinishing the bottoms of their flatbottom Bateaux. Gonna be a long spring.
Reckon if the mayor of New Orlean and the Guvnah of Louisiana start NOW, they can figure out which side of the paper bag to come out of to plan any necessary evacuations or other flood response?
 

tech

Veteran Member
Reckon if the mayor of New Orlean and the Guvnah of Louisiana start NOW, they can figure out which side of the paper bag to come out of to plan any necessary evacuations or other flood response?
Not very likely...Latoya da destroya and Jonbel don't have a clue.

Scary....the Corps of Engineers control the Big Muddy down this far. Look for the Atchafalaya Basin being inundated (again) once the gates are opened...
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Not very likely...Latoya da destroya and Jonbel don't have a clue.

Scary....the Corps of Engineers control the Big Muddy down this far. Look for the Atchafalaya Basin being inundated (again) once the gates are opened...
THIS was a KNOWN, in ref Atchafalaya Basin and flooding. WAY too much water coming for things to be easy and cool down there.
 

homecanner1

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According to NWS, it' suppose to crest at McGregor on Saturday at 23.5'. Currently at 22.7'.

Its sunny and more thawing today upstream, plus rains inbound for the weekend

it continues to creep up farther downstream

today in Moline IL


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homecanner1

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Train Derail at Ferryville Wi, railbed washed out under the tracks

View: https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1651709336874360834


COMMENT BY A LOCAL '.....I live in the area, about 8 miles from the wreck. All local sand/gravel trucks are being sent in to help. We have record setting Mississippi river floods going on now. The rails washed out and front of train dumped into the river. Two rail cars washed down stream. Local spokesman, who was definitely a local, said lithium cars didn't tip. DNR and others on scene trying to protect water. River usually at 8', now at almost 25'.,,,,'
 

BenIan

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THIS was a KNOWN, in ref Atchafalaya Basin and flooding. WAY too much water coming for things to be easy and cool down there.
Crossed the Basin yesterday. Water is up. Not the highest I’ve seen it but it is definitely higher than usual.
 

SurvivalRing

Rich Fleetwood - Founder - author/coder/podcaster
We got hit by the spring 2019 flooding that included record flooding from the Mississippi, the Missouri, and the Illinois rivers. 2nd worst flood in St. Louis history.

We were living in Foley, three miles west of the West Bank of the river, on highway 79, the first paved road on that side of the river. I watched the water rising starting mid March, and on June 1st, 2019, after several portions of the main levees fell, the water crossed all that farmland and came into town. We get the last of our belongings out of the house 12 hours before the water came into the yard.

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The yellow circle is where our house was. First flood disaster we’ve ever been in. Never again.

Based on the record snow this year here in Wyoming, all of which flows north, then east, directly into the Missouri River, and parts of the Mississippi River farther north, I’ve got a feeling this years flood may surpass the record books.

Because of 2019, we moved back to Wyoming, and live about 160 below the continental divide 30 miles to the west. No more flooding for us…ever.
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
We got hit by the spring 2019 flooding that included record flooding from the Mississippi, the Missouri, and the Illinois rivers. 2nd worst flood in St. Louis history.

We were living in Foley, three miles west of the West Bank of the river, on highway 79, the first paved road on that side of the river. I watched the water rising starting mid March, and on June 1st, 2019, after several portions of the main levees fell, the water crossed all that farmland and came into town. We get the last of our belongings out of the house 12 hours before the water came into the yard.

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The yellow circle is where our house was. First flood disaster we’ve ever been in. Never again.

Based on the record snow this year here in Wyoming, all of which flows north, then east, directly into the Missouri River, and parts of the Mississippi River farther north, I’ve got a feeling this years flood may surpass the record books.

Because of 2019, we moved back to Wyoming, and live about 160 below the continental divide 30 miles to the west. No more flooding for us…ever.

Sorry but you are wrong when it comes to the worst floods on the mississippi river north of saint louis, there were the floods in th e1970's, 1993, and the late eighteen centuries.
 

feralferret

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At least this time the Missouri River isn't also flooding. If it were then things would be even worse on the Mississippi River from St. Louis south. This is the first time in several years that the Missouri has not flooded along the Kansas/Missouri border before it turns east.
 

homecanner1

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UPDATE Cresting at St Louis this weekend

'....The river was peaking Wednesday at Dam 17, just north of New Boston, Illinois, said Mike Welvaert, a service coordination hydrologist with the North Central River Forecast Center. “We’re looking for the crest between Keokuk (Iowa) and St. Louis over the next two to three days....”

921 AM CDT Sun May 7 2023

Location Flood Stage 24-hr
Stage Today Change


* Mississippi River
Canton 15 17.99 -0.20
LaGrange 17 18.46 -0.18
Quincy 19 20.92 -0.20
Lock & Dam 21 18 20.22 -0.12
Hannibal 17 21.75 -0.11
Saverton 16 20.24 -0.09
Louisiana 15 19.86 0.01
Clarksville 25 30.20 0.07
Winfield 26 30.22 0.07
Grafton 20 20.37 0.07
Alton 21 14.94 0.04
Alton LD 26 Pool 17.97 0.04
Mel Price LD 21 16.44 0.02
St. Louis 30 21.67 0.03
Herculaneum 26 17.36 0.01
Chester 27 22.23 0.11


* Missouri River
Jefferson City 23 4.53 -0.06
Chamois 17
Hermann 21 3.89 0.06
Washington 20 1.69 -0.08
St. Charles 25 8.66 -0.16


* Illinois River
La Grange LD 23 12.86 -0.28
Meredosia 17 8.06 -0.20
Valley City 14 7.72 -0.15
Hardin 25 24.71 0.01
 
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