CORONA Masks are now required in Texas. What if you can’t wear one because of a medical condition?

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Businesses probably will accommodate individuals by offering modified services such as curbside delivery.
Wearing masks, a practice that health experts say is one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of the coronavirus, is now required across the state.

But what if you’re unable to wear a mask because of a legitimate medical condition or disability? Can a business refuse to serve you? Here’s what you need to know.

Who isn’t required to wear a mask?
State and local mandates requiring masks acknowledge that there are certain groups of people who can’t safely wear one. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says children under 2 and people who have trouble breathing, are unconscious, incapacitated or can’t take off a mask without help shouldn’t wear one.
Local mandates have followed that guidance; Gov. Greg Abbott’s statewide mandate says anyone under 10 or who has a medical condition or disability that prevents them from safely wearing a mask is exempt from the order.

Health experts have said legitimate health problems can include chronic asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, a lung disease that makes it difficult to breathe. Other conditions that could make wearing a mask difficult could include people who have post-traumatic stress disorder, severe anxiety or claustrophobia, or someone with autism who is sensitive to touch and texture.

Do I have to tell a business about my disability?
A store manager is not able to ask people what their disabilities are, Doron Dorfman, a law professor at Syracuse University who specializes in disability law, told Syracuse.com.

Dorfman said business owners or managers can generally only ask two questions, “Is ... [not wearing a mask] an accommodation?” and “What kind of benefit do you get from not wearing a mask?”

He said asking those questions can help business owners defend themselves in the case of a discrimination lawsuit and they can help a business make accommodations for the person who isn’t wearing a mask.

Viral videos and posts in recent weeks have claimed that customers don’t have to prove or disclose their disability under HIPAA, or the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. But legal experts say that isn’t the case.
HIPAA only applies to three types of covered entities: health plans, health care clearinghouses and health care providers,” Kathy Gips, the director of training at the New England ADA Center, told Snopes. “It restricts their ability to share protected health information. It also gives patients access to their own medical records. It has nothing to do with customers or stores or employment or anything else.”
Can a business refuse to serve someone with a medical condition exempting them from a mask?
A business typically cannot refuse service to someone with a legitimate medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask.

In the case of mask policies, businesses are required to make reasonable modifications to their services so a customer with a disability can take part in the services offered. This protection comes from the federal Americans with Disabilities Act, which prevents discrimination based on a disability.
A reasonable modification could include allowing a customer to wear a loose scarf or face shield instead of a mask, allowing a customer to use curbside delivery or no-contact services, or setting up a system so the business uses appointments and phone calls when possible.
In Dallas County, which implemented a mask requirement for residents two weeks before the governor’s order, businesses have been told to offer similar accommodations to customers who can’t wear masks, said Dr. Philip Huang, the county’s public health director.
“What our guidance is and what we’re hearing that others can do is just offer some alternative type services,” he said. “So if someone can’t put on a mask and come inside, then they can offer to get the product for them, like a to-go type of thing, or some type of accommodation.”
According to the Southeast ADA Center of the Burton Blatt Institute at Syracuse University, there are some situations in which a business would not be required to serve someone who wasn’t able to wear a mask.
One circumstance is if an accommodation can’t occur without changing the service or how the business operates — such as delivering goods to someone’s home if the business doesn’t already offer that service.

A business also wouldn’t be required to make an accommodation that creates an undue burden. For example, if a store has limited staffing it wouldn’t be required to set up a time for customers to be in the store alone so they wouldn’t have to wear masks
A business wouldn’t be required to serve someone who wasn’t wearing a mask if they were presenting a “direct threat” to the health and safety of other people that couldn’t be solved with an accommodation.
Legal experts say that in the case of COVID-19, a direct threat may be hard to prove because many people have mild symptoms or may be asymptomatic.
Protections only apply to people with disabilities

With mask mandates becoming more common across the country, videos and posts have gone viral on social media in recent weeks of people who are opposed to wearing masks advocating for the use of what some have referred to as “the ADA loophole.”
For example, photos of “mask exemption cards” that state a person is exempt from wearing a mask under the Americans with Disabilities Act have gained widespread attention. The cards, which were issued by an organization called Freedom to Breathe and had a logo from the Department of Justice on it, were confirmed to be fake by the U.S. attorney’s office in North Carolina.

The Justice Department also has cautioned the public about flyers and other postings that contain inaccurate information.
“We know that people abuse these things — just like people take their dogs into places and claim they’re a service animal,” Robin Jones, director of the Great Lakes ADA Center, told the Tampa Bay Times. “This is just unfortunately the nature of human nature. There is no good way for an entity to monitor that.”
Health experts warn that falsely claiming to have a disability to get around wearing a mask is harmful to people who really have medical problems.
“It’s a really cynical use of laws that are designed to protect the population who are most susceptible to getting the virus,” Dorfmann told Syracuse.com. “The people who are most susceptible are people with preexisting conditions, meaning those are people with disabilities.”

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mzkitty

I give up.
I have COPD and take medications for it. We have to wear the damn masks here in FL. I just wear it and take it off as soon as I leave the store because I don't want to get in a fight with some ignoramus over why I'm not wearing one; nor do I want to carry around a doctor's note proving it. I'm never any place very long, so while it's annoying, it's short-lived. I can always sneak around a corner where there are no people at the moment and pull the mask down for a minute.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Those hinged welding masks should do. They're a lot like face shields, but a little thicker and often polarized against the spark.

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naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Get a face shield or have a custom made mask made for you. A single layer of the most breathable material that you can find.
 

DryCreek

Veteran Member
I have decided to ignore the mandate of donning the garment of submission.

Went and did all of our shopping yesterday, no mask. I wasn't asked to put one on either. The local sheriff posted on his county law enforcement update page that he is not enforcing the edict. He did warn that some of the local small town Barney Fife types might, but we have found that is just not the case.

Just for grits and shins, I bought some very open weave mesh material last week. I taught myself how to use my wife's sewing machine, and made a very nice, and glaringly see-through mask. That was a very open weave mesh. About the same as a window screen. And in white, it really stands out. I sent a picture to my brother down in SA. He wants one now too. He says it sends two messages at once, I'll marginally comply, and BTW, Fornicate You.
 

mostlyharmless

Veteran Member
Everything about Coronavirus is hypocritical. Supposedly, a business can refuse your entry over a medical condition that precludes marks and not run afoul of the ADA. Yet somehow, if the hung signs in the window that said "no wheelchairs" and "no fatties", made the front door 24" wide, they'd get sued into oblivion by both their customers as well as the Feds.

Just like Fauchi and his globalist crew ... protesting the lockdowns is dangerous and must now be allowed. Getting together outside with friends and family to celebrate our founding (7/4, just in case there are commies lurking here) ... no dice, either. BLM protests... that's totally cool, though.

Anyone I see walking around with a mask on ... is an automatic idiot in my world.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
I just got back from an errand (the same O'Reilly's no less). The clerk asked if I had a mask. I said I have severe asthma. He said OK how can I help you. That was it. Plus I always carry my asthma goodies with me if they wanted proof.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I just got back from an errand (the same O'Reilly's no less). The clerk asked if I had a mask. I said I have severe asthma. He said OK how can I help you. That was it. Plus I always carry my asthma goodies with me if they wanted proof.
They're not allowed to ask such questions, last I knew. And you're under no obligation to provide proof either. Again, last I knew. This jury-rigged mess of theirs has more loopholes than tax law.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
They're not allowed to ask such questions, last I knew. And you're under no obligation to provide proof either. Again, last I knew. This jury-rigged mess of theirs has more loopholes than tax law.
Since Gov. RINO included exemptions for those of us that need it I don't mind saying why. Everyone that knows me knows I'm asthmatic. Hell, stand next to me for a minute and you'll figure it out for yourself.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The 2 questions above are questions that they CAN ASK and can gauge their response on. Which includes kicking yer tail to the curb.

Anyone I see walking around with a mask on ... is an automatic idiot in my world.

And thank you for characterizing my bride and me. YES we wear masks. For reasonable reasons...Hx Asthma, Hx Pneumonia, Hx COPD. Remind RELIC and me not to land in yer fuicked up world.
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
Funny. The states that are ablaze with CV19 cases -- out of control -- have the most people bitching up a storm about the most proven method of reducing the spread of the virus. Look at Illinois cases. That's what masks do. Don't come here. You won't be served and you will be escorted out of most places.
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
That was a very open weave mesh. About the same as a window screen. And in white, it really stands out. I sent a picture to my brother down in SA. He wants one now too. He says it sends two messages at once, I'll marginally comply, and BTW, Fornicate You.
I ordered a yard of this fabric. Not sure what style I’m going to make yet. I’d love to see a picture of your mask.
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I bought a box of thin paper material, they are intended for single use. I intend to wear one until it dies, I don't want anything thick. Louisiana is now being mandated to wear makes starting on Monday. Putz of a democrap governor, its a miracle he did not go back to phase 1, all the bars have to close starting on Monday.

God is good, all the time,

Judy
 

DryCreek

Veteran Member
I ordered a yard of this fabric. Not sure what style I’m going to make yet. I’d love to see a picture of your mask.
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OK, you win. Like I said, the mesh I ordered is more of a window screen size opening.

Oh, and I love how people like to use the manufactured infection rate numbers as a prop for their own refusal to stand up and say no. When the reports of people being listed as positive when not actually tested, or just because they were reported as being on a contact list, or in the case of my friends sister - listed as recovered when she tested negative for active C19, and also negative for antibodies. Go ahead, don your garment of submission. It'll make the next step (burqa) much easier. Wearing the hijab is a virtue. We are unvirtuous.

Do you have to upload your pictures to a web hosting service to post them here?
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Guess not. Please don't comment on the technical aspects. It is a prototype, sewn by a novice. The white shoestrings for ties worked really well though!
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
Please don't comment on the technical aspects. It is a prototype, sewn by a novice. The white shoestrings for ties worked really well though!

You’ll get nothing but kudos from me! That’s impressive since you’ve never sewn before. At least you got one made. I keep putting it off trying to figure out which style to make.
 

lakemom

Veteran Member
I have COPD and take medications for it. We have to wear the damn masks here in FL. I just wear it and take it off as soon as I leave the store because I don't want to get in a fight with some ignoramus over why I'm not wearing one; nor do I want to carry around a doctor's note proving it. I'm never any place very long, so while it's annoying, it's short-lived. I can always sneak around a corner where there are no people at the moment and pull the mask down for a minute.

I just got back from an errand (the same O'Reilly's no less). The clerk asked if I had a mask. I said I have severe asthma. He said OK how can I help you. That was it. Plus I always carry my asthma goodies with me if they wanted proof.


We have a mask mandate here, as well. I can't breathe properly in a mask. No, it's not "difficult" to breathe. It means that I get short of breath, my heart rate goes up, and I get dizzy. Haven't been "diagnosed" with anything and I don't intend to go to the doctor's office to get diagnosed. So, I went to Hobby Lobby after work Friday and bought some of that material that they make like harem veils & such with. Made myself a mask out of a double layer last night. I can breathe through it and it fits the "definition" in the City ordinance they just passed. It's so thin it doesn't even fog up my glasses. I don't have a sewing machine, so I used fabric glue. Something like that MIGHT work for you.
 

DryCreek

Veteran Member
Anybody who doesn't like wearing a mask will really hate wearing a ventilator.
True. I see people falling over dead on the streets. Wailing, crying out for a ventilator. The bodies are stacking up 10 deep around me as I type this. Everyone who gets the dreaded C19 ends up spending a month in the ICU, daisy chained to a dozen others using the same old wheezing ventilator from the 90's. And then they die. No recovery. AT all.
What's the percentage of death rate from infection now - 95%, more?
Yeah, everyone without a mask is going to end up on a ventilator.
Have you considered applying for a spot on the nightly news as one of their breathless reporters on the street, reporting how the disease has crippled our country (and implying its the fault of DJT)?
Oh, the fear here is palpable.
 

subnet

Boot
Anybody who doesn't like wearing a mask will really hate wearing a ventilator.
If 80% show little to no symptoms....its the 20% that should be penalized, not the majority.
Wear one of you like, but force is not what the country was founded on.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
I’m one, though I hate to admit it. PTSD from childhood trauma and late husband. I can manage it most of the time - have to wear one to fly commercial (not the float plane!). But sometimes I find myself gasping. Mostly mental, and I know it - but after having even a light-weight, worthless mask on for a few hours at a time, I’ve gotten a short-term sore throat and malaise from low oxygen. I hate them but will wear when I HAVE to go out.
 
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