WOKE Man vs Bear Debate: The Dumbest Feminist Argument Yet?
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bracketquant
Veteran Member
Is that you, Minnesota Smith?
George Castanza's pig-man?
Firebird
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thankfully my daughter has a CCW and carries a .40 as well as a blade. She has amazing situational awareness as well.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Where did you get your ludicrous 30/30/40 numbers when meeting a bear?
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Where 82% of all statistics come from: made them up. I could have taken a LOT longer to try and break them down further by type of bear, but that really didn't matter. The point is there's three basic outcomes and you have no way of knowing WHICH will happen when you meet that bear. There aren't really more than three outcomes. Bear runs, bear ignores, bear fights. Bear will NEVER engage you in conversation or read its poetry at you or try to sell you vinyl siding.
Echo 5
Funniest guy on TB2K
Yep. They're (by an overwhelming majority) completely broken by social media and feminism. Even the Christian ones are just as bad as the secular ones - they just hide it better. YMMV.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Not by very much.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Type of bear does matter, and age/size of bear does matter.
My real world experience with black bears in southern New England overall is about 99/1/0, 99% run (bears are the shyest creature in the woods, when still young), 1% don't care, 0% attack. I encounter 2-4 bears a year, on average. I've likely encountered right around 100 bears, total.
My guess is that the vast majority of black bears that I come across are ones where the momma has shooed them away this present year or the previous year. They are all young and fairly small. If I break down the stats for this sub-group it is 100/0/0, as every single one of these bears ran away, swiftly.
As for the other group, large older bears, 400 to perhaps 500 pounds, it is 0/100/0. None ran away, they just went about their business. I didn't hang around to see what they might do. The sample size is small, 2, and I have no plans to increase it.
Firebird
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The black bears in my area of N Florida are very scared of people, they tuck and run almost instantly.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Kramer's pig man, George's car.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Of course it does. It ALL does. But for the purposes of this exercise you pretty much have to assign three outcomes of nearly equal weight because you do not know what type, age, or size you will encounter.
I guess surviving rape is a joke to some people....
bw
Fringe Ranger
If we're talking Jean Carroll and the Trump Rape Survivors club, yeah, there's some humor available.
No, we're not making light of it, but that E Jean Carroll broad sure turned it into a (sick) joke.
Summerthyme
Admit it. That question just drove the INTJ on this forum nuts. And if you just happen to be an INTJ male, all bets are off.
TBonz
Veteran Member
Works both ways
It's men saying that there are too many women who can't be trusted. And they're right, sad to say. It's definitely not all of you. But there are too many of these types for comfort. It's demoralizing how many men have been abused by people who one would think they would trust.
Of course it does. But men can rape. That's terrifying.
Lisa:
This.
Most men are great.
I hunt bear, live with bear, and I don’t always know their intent especially with grizz
Men are dangerous to other men as well, depending on my location I pack a weapon for men, or I pack a bigger weapon for bear
(9mm vs .40s&w vs 10mm)
But by far the most dangerous creature out there for men….is a woman
I gotta give ChatGPT the win here
jward
passin' thru
I'm stickin w/ good ole MEN for the win- they have yet to disappoint!... I think even sweet-boy would ultimately choose to protect me o'er a bear if the situation ever arose, tho it might require some eye batting and reminders o' how good I smell and how big and strong his mr. fix-anything muscles were
- depending upon how annoying I was being in the moment and where his attention had been prior. : )
those o' u feelin safe with those ole teddy bears should read this story I saw on my feed this morning; Connivin kinda critters, sounds like
cbsnews.com
Bear dragged crash victim's body from car in woods off Massachusetts highway, police say
Neal Riley
~3 minutes
Updated on: May 6, 2024 / 12:12 PM EDT / CBS Boston
CBS News Live
CBS News Boston Live
HATFIELD - A bear is believed to have dragged the body of a western Massachusetts crash victim out of his car on Sunday, State Police say.
Investigators say 31-year-old Daniel Ducharme, of South Hadley, was likely killed as a result of the crash on Route 91 south in Hatfield. Police said the evidence suggests he was "either fully ejected or partially ejected and later dragged from the car by the bear."
Another driver called police at 11 a.m. on Sunday when they noticed a car in the woods off the side of the road. Troopers found a "heavily damaged" 2016 Honda Civic among the trees.
Troopers saw bear in woods at crash scene
"When first responders reached the scene, the deceased male occupant of the vehicle was outside the car and a bear was observed in the woods in the vicinity of the scene," State Police said in a statement. "Evidence suggests the bear at some point had made contact with the victim's body."
The bear took off from the area while troopers were at the scene.
The cause of the crash is still being investigated. Ducharme was the only person in the car. Police say he somehow lost control of the car, hit the guardrail multiple times, and went off the right side of the road. He went down an embankment before hitting several trees, police said.
Black bears active in Massachusetts
Hatfield is part of the black bears' established range in Massachusetts. There are estimated to be more than 4,500 bears in the state.
Wildlife officials back in March reminded residents that bears are coming out of hibernation and searching for food.
Neal Riley
Neal J. Riley is a digital producer for CBS Boston. He has been with WBZ-TV since 2014. His work has appeared in The Boston Globe and The San Francisco Chronicle. Neal is a graduate of Boston University.
www.cbsnews.com
- depending upon how annoying I was being in the moment and where his attention had been prior. : )
those o' u feelin safe with those ole teddy bears should read this story I saw on my feed this morning; Connivin kinda critters, sounds like
cbsnews.com
Bear dragged crash victim's body from car in woods off Massachusetts highway, police say
Neal Riley
~3 minutes
Updated on: May 6, 2024 / 12:12 PM EDT / CBS Boston
CBS News Live
CBS News Boston Live
HATFIELD - A bear is believed to have dragged the body of a western Massachusetts crash victim out of his car on Sunday, State Police say.
Investigators say 31-year-old Daniel Ducharme, of South Hadley, was likely killed as a result of the crash on Route 91 south in Hatfield. Police said the evidence suggests he was "either fully ejected or partially ejected and later dragged from the car by the bear."
Another driver called police at 11 a.m. on Sunday when they noticed a car in the woods off the side of the road. Troopers found a "heavily damaged" 2016 Honda Civic among the trees.
Troopers saw bear in woods at crash scene
"When first responders reached the scene, the deceased male occupant of the vehicle was outside the car and a bear was observed in the woods in the vicinity of the scene," State Police said in a statement. "Evidence suggests the bear at some point had made contact with the victim's body."
The bear took off from the area while troopers were at the scene.
The cause of the crash is still being investigated. Ducharme was the only person in the car. Police say he somehow lost control of the car, hit the guardrail multiple times, and went off the right side of the road. He went down an embankment before hitting several trees, police said.
Black bears active in Massachusetts
Hatfield is part of the black bears' established range in Massachusetts. There are estimated to be more than 4,500 bears in the state.
Wildlife officials back in March reminded residents that bears are coming out of hibernation and searching for food.
Neal Riley
Neal J. Riley is a digital producer for CBS Boston. He has been with WBZ-TV since 2014. His work has appeared in The Boston Globe and The San Francisco Chronicle. Neal is a graduate of Boston University.
Bear dragged crash victim's body from car in woods off Massachusetts highway, police say
Police believe the driver killed in the western Massachusetts crash was "later dragged from the car by the bear."
www.cbsnews.com
bw
Fringe Ranger
This sounds like some biased reporting. Here's the bear being a good Samaritan, trying to save this idiot driver, and being implied as a potential bad actor just because he can't do first aid and looks clumsy.
Betty_Rose
Veteran Member
I think the question was, which is more frightening for a woman - bear or a man.
It’d certainly be a man for me.
And yes Freebird, I am pretty shocked at how flippant some of these responses have been.
Sewer pig men?
kyrsyan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think one woman summed it up pretty well. She said women knew what to expect from a bear - death by mauling.
Unfortunately women cannot know the same thing about men. And that there are some things worse than death, like torture, extended rape, slavery, imprisonment, etc, etc.
That is not to say that all men are like that. Or even most. But there are enough in today's times. Heck there were enough when I was a teen.
I was raised to be very cautious around men while still having the ability to be friends with them. Good men did not push when they ran into my barriers. Bad men were no longer part of my life after they tried. Only my ex managed to get through because I did not know how to be aware of his personality type. Now I do.
But every woman I know, without fail, was given guidelines to follow to "remain safe". Whether she liked having to follow them or not. Whether they succeeded or not. And any man who does not understand that has not raised a daughter. Or has failed in raising a daughter.
Unfortunately women cannot know the same thing about men. And that there are some things worse than death, like torture, extended rape, slavery, imprisonment, etc, etc.
That is not to say that all men are like that. Or even most. But there are enough in today's times. Heck there were enough when I was a teen.
I was raised to be very cautious around men while still having the ability to be friends with them. Good men did not push when they ran into my barriers. Bad men were no longer part of my life after they tried. Only my ex managed to get through because I did not know how to be aware of his personality type. Now I do.
But every woman I know, without fail, was given guidelines to follow to "remain safe". Whether she liked having to follow them or not. Whether they succeeded or not. And any man who does not understand that has not raised a daughter. Or has failed in raising a daughter.
That can’t happen because most of them are lesbians.
Unfortunately, that’s why giving women the vote ultimately has led to the cesspool that america has become in modern times. (Present company of conservative, thinking women excepted.)
That’s because all they know of bears is “Smokey bear”.
Thank you!
lisa
Veteran Member
It's not about the bear. Does anyone really think a woman would rather choose a bear over a random man? We'd rather choose a wild animal?
(And I've been face to face with a bear btw...most scared I've ever been...but i lived to tell the tale.). It's to highlight how we need to live our lives on a daily basis.
(And I've been face to face with a bear btw...most scared I've ever been...but i lived to tell the tale.). It's to highlight how we need to live our lives on a daily basis.
adgal
Veteran Member
Fair use cited - 32 Disheartening Sexual Assault Statistics for 2023
Alarming Sexual Violence Statistics (Editor’s Choice)
- One of the most shocking facts about sexual assault is that approximately only 5% of sexual assault reports filed have been proven false.
- 82% of all juvenile sexual assault victims are female.
- 90% of adult rape victims are female.
- 41% of sexual assaults against Native Indians are committed by a stranger.
- Adolescents aged 14‐17 were by far the most likely to be sexually victimized; nearly one in six (16.3%) was sexually victimized in the past year.
1. In 2019, over 652,676 women were raped.
This figure excludes non-rape sexual assaults but includes date rape statistics; if included, data from non-rape sexual assaults would take the figure closer to the one million mark. What’s worse, it has been rising for the last decade at an annual rate of 2.9%, and this trend shows no sign of decreasing.2. Over 40% of women in the US have encountered sexual violence.
Sexual abuse, as shown by rape and sexual assault statistics, has affected 41.8% of women in the US who have been victimized by sexual violence other than rape.3. Nearly 80% of female sexual assault victims experience their first assault before the age of 25.
Exactly 79.6% of female victims who have experienced one or more completed rape did so before the age of 25.These numbers are low because many women (especially young women) never report that they have been sexually abused. As survivors of sexual abuse, of course, we would be frightened by a scenario where we are helpless and vulnerable - and approached by a strange man. I'm not saying that a bear is a better choice - it's silly to be only given those two options. But there is a big difference between meeting a cartel member or a Park Ranger in the woods. If it's a cartel member - I'd choose the bear.
For most of us, this has nothing to do with the majority of men we associate with and more about the trauma we have experienced as women. I have yet to meet one woman who was not sexually abused/assaulted in her lifetime.
Unless you have experienced it - or had to live through it with a wife or daughter - you have no idea how we feel.