ECON Make Preparations! Canadian Cross Border Trucking Vaxx Mandate Now In Effect, Domestic Trucking Mandate Starts Next Week

Walrus

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My understanding is that it is not used often for drying wheat. I have also never been able to find anything that states that there is commercial GMO wheat being used anywhere in the world. I know it has been developed but isnt economically viable yet.
Good info, thank you. I guess we need to define "often". Perhaps that's a regional thing.

My understanding is the same as yours, is that there's officially not any GMO wheat being planted now. One thing the brother-in-law did mention was that the modern strains of wheat being grown are much shorter than decades ago, and that their protein content is much lower.

He related to me how one crop they'd grown (I forget exactly the circumstances he mentioned) had almost a 30% protein content when it was tested. Wow!
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Good info, thank you. I guess we need to define "often". Perhaps that's a regional thing.

My understanding is the same as yours, is that there's officially not any GMO wheat being planted now. One thing the brother-in-law did mention was that the modern strains of wheat being grown are much shorter than decades ago, and that their protein content is much lower.

He related to me how one crop they'd grown (I forget exactly the circumstances he mentioned) had almost a 30% protein content when it was tested. Wow!
Back then straw had value. Now not so much.
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
Good info, thank you. I guess we need to define "often". Perhaps that's a regional thing.

My understanding is the same as yours, is that there's officially not any GMO wheat being planted now. One thing the brother-in-law did mention was that the modern strains of wheat being grown are much shorter than decades ago, and that their protein content is much lower.

He related to me how one crop they'd grown (I forget exactly the circumstances he mentioned) had almost a 30% protein content when it was tested. Wow!

The only time I've heard of Roundup on wheat is when the other herbicides failed for some reason and there are a bunch of green weeds present when it's time for harvest.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The article below is dated Jan 15th. Other articles saying the mandate was lifted were dated earlier. So this is the latest, as far as I can tell, and it comes from a Canadian news source:

Industry experts and leaders remained concerned about the country's supply chain as the federal government's new vaccine mandate for truck drivers came into effect Saturday following days of confusion around the rules.

The mandate, which will require Canadian truckers to quarantine if unvaccinated when crossing the border into Canada, led to a number of questions and corrections around who would be exempt and how.

Now, with the vaccine requirement in place, concerns persist about the impact this mandate will have on the North American supply chain.

"I think you probably won't see that movement … that the government's looking for," retail expert Bruce Winder told CTV News Channel on Saturday when asked if the effort will encourage truckers to get vaccinated.

The Canadian Trucking Alliance has said between 10 and 15 per cent of cross-border commercial drivers could be lost if the mandate takes effect.

American Trucking Associations has argued that a misapplied mandate would fuel a surge in driver turnover and attrition, with fleets losing as much as 37 per cent of their current workforce.

There are 120,000 Canadians and 40,000 licensed drivers in the U.S. who operate cross-border, the Canadian Trucking Alliance says, while about 70 per cent of the $648 billion in trade between the two countries moves by truck.

Under the vaccine mandate, unvaccinated or partially-vaccinated non-Canadian truckers will be turned away if they aren't able to show proof of vaccination or a valid medical exemption to the COVID-19 vaccines. The U.S. plans to have a similar mandate come into effect for drivers crossing into the country starting Jan. 22.

"I know what the government's trying to do with managing the hospital capacity, but they could find themselves with a very tough situation if Canadians rise up with inflation and food insecurity, or major manufacturers slow down, lay off people," Winder said.

The mandate throws a "major wrench" in the Canadian and North American supply chains, he added, with grocers, food producers, the auto parts industry and building materials among the sectors expected to be most affected.
"I really hope that we're not at the stage where you see food insecurity, where you're actually going to grocery stores and there's nothing on the shelf," Winder said.

"That could be the worst-case scenario."

Mike Millian, president of the Private Motor Truck Council of Canada, told CTV News Channel on Saturday that there were as many 23,000 vacancies at the end of the third quarter of 2021, with his group's own studies showing that roughly 20 per cent of Canadian truck drivers operating across the border are unvaccinated.

Although the Canada Border Services Agency said earlier this week that unvaccinated Canadian truckers would be exempt from having to quarantine or provide proof of a negative COVID-19 molecular test when coming back, the federal government later corrected this and said they would still need to quarantine upon their return.

Millian had hoped unvaccinated Canadian truckers, who were dispatched after the CBSA's announcement, would be granted an exemption from the quarantine rules.

But after speaking with government officials on Friday, Millian told CTV's Power Play that the request had been denied.
However, Canadian drivers will still be allowed to finish their deliveries before heading into quarantine.

"They bring our food in, our heating fuels and our groceries, everything that we need, our medical supplies," Millian said.
"If we remove a fifth of that workforce, we're going to see shortages on shelves and we're going to see inflation of prices, because the cost to bring this stuff here is going to go up."

With files from CTVNews.ca

Canada's vaccine mandate for truckers in effect at border | CTV News
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
My understanding is that it is not used often for drying wheat. I have also never been able to find anything that states that there is commercial GMO wheat being used anywhere in the world. I know it has been developed but isnt economically viable yet.

cross contamination.

some natural non organic mac n chz had high levels of roundup in it among other brands conventional.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Maybe it is regional then, used in the areas with higher humidity during harvest? I don't see it being done around here.
It's got to be expensive (and the price doubled in the last 12 months), but it can save on propane, which is *really* expensive. So I'm sure you are right about it being regional. But I also suspect (no personal experience) it makes harvesting with the big migrant harvester businesses much simpler in some ways. Rather than waiting for the wheat to ripen to the magic percentage of moisture, they can pretty well predict what day it will be ready to combine after spraying with glyphosate.

It's not just wheat and oats, either. Many other grains are sprayed, as well as sugar beets and potatoes. As I've ranted many times before, I was a licensed pesticide applicator when Roundup was first approved. If you wanted to plant potatoes after using it, you had to wait 18 months! Now, they spray it on the plants, where it's taken into the tubers?! It's nuts!

Summerthyme
 
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