CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

marsh

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Helping black-owned businesses hit hard by COVID-19
•Aug 3, 2020


ABC News

Tanisha Carothers, president of the Evansville Black Chamber of Commerce, talks about her organization’s drive to support African American entrepreneurs impacted by the pandemic.

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All the celebs and public figures who’ve said they’ve tested positive for COVID-19
•Aug 3, 2020


Good Morning America


From Tom Hanks to Prince Charles, here's what celebrities have to say about COVID-19.

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Negotiations continue over coronavirus economic relief l GMA
•Aug 3, 2020


Good Morning America


White House officials and top Democrats are set to meet as they remain at odds over extending the $600 weekly unemployment benefits that expired in July.
 

marsh

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Remarkable Scenes As The Hajj Ends With Social Distancing | NBC News NOW
•Aug 3, 2020


NBC News

Hajj pilgrims walked around the Kaaba in Mecca on Sunday, following precise markings on the ground and wearing face masks to comply with coronavirus restrictions.

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Melbourne Emerges From COVID-19 Curfew With Warning Of Worse To Come | NBC News NOW
•Aug 3, 2020


NBC News

As Australia faced a rise in coronavirus cases, the country's second most populous city Melbourne emerged from its first night time curfew on August 3. The state premier later announced that non-essential businesses will be forced to close from late Wednesday.

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Gov. Cuomo: 'Nation Learned Nothing' From New York Spike In Cases | MSNBC
•Aug 3, 2020


MSNBC

On the spike in coronavirus cases across the United States, Governor Andrew Cuomo blames the White House for the lack of a ‘national strategy:’ “We handled it in New York and the nation learned nothing from that experience, frankly.” Aired on 08/03/2020.
 

marsh

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University Of Kentucky Testing Entire Student Body Ahead Of Return To Campus | NBC News NOW
•Aug 3, 2020


NBC News

The University of Kentucky is testing its entire student body for COVID-19 before the campus reopens at the end of August. NBC News’ Ellison Barber spoke with Eli Capilouto, the university’s president, who said COVID-19 could “hitchhike across the campus,” and expressed the importance of testing.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
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Covid-19 vaccine development sparks political controversy in India | Coronavirus update
•Aug 3, 2020


DW News Germany

In India, the race to develop a vaccine against the coronavirus has become embroiled in politics. India has the world's third worst casualty rate in the pandemic with more than 50,000 new COVID19 cases every day, rapidly approaching the 2 million mark. Yet, India has entered its "Unlock 3" phase, easing restrictions further. That's led to claims about when a vaccine will be ready that some scientists say is irresponsible.

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Dating, partnership and loneliness in times of the coronavirus crisis | COVID-19 Special
•Aug 3, 2020


DW News Germany

Due to the Covid-19 pandemic, many countries around the world have travel bans in place. The closure of international borders is also holding international unmarried couples apart from each other. Many of them have started campaigning, saying "Love Is Not Tourism".
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
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Why this restaurateur says he's as nervous about coronavirus now as he was in March
•Aug 3, 2020


CNBC Television


Cameron Mitchell is the founder and CEO of Cameron Mitchell Restaurants, which operates over 30 restaurants across 12 states. He joins “Squawk Box” to discuss how the industry is fairing under the stress of the coronavirus pandemic. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC
 

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Toy Maker

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Don't know if anybody mentioned this before, but for a pandemic this is a pretty slow moving one. Last 10 day average from John Hopkins is just above 60K confirmed per day.

If we can nudge this up to 70K per day, it will only take 13 years or so more to infect all US citizens.

If this was a real pandemic, doubling infections every 4-6 days the US would have been tapped out by the end of May.

Something isn't right in Denmark.
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
It is what it is. Where are you going to get your information? From a variety of sources or only from some conspiracy site? Feel free to contribute.
So the choice is conspiracy sites or hyped up disinformation?
That's not much of a choice. :lol:
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
On CNN's homepage now...see below, but first the pic I found that is similar, I copied this over...because:

**** I tried to post the screenshot from the video on the page...tried to find that photo on the web somewhere. There is a black man pictured as a coach, with a mask on and a plastic bubble over his head...guess what is coming next, folks? Here is a similar pic., this is from London, evidently:
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Fauci: Schools and colleges can reopen, but safety should come first
WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 31: Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, arrives to testify before the House Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis during a hearing on a national plan to contain the COVID-19 pandemic, on Capitol Hill on July 31, 2020 in Washington, DC.  (Photo by Kevin Dietsch - Pool/Getty Images)

The top infectious disease expert says there are two big reasons schools should go back to in-person learning


K-12 schools and colleges can reopen, but safety should come first, Fauci says

By Christina Maxouris, Holly Yan and Amir Vera, CNN

  • Updated 6:50 PM ET, Mon August 3, 2020

    (CNN) Schools and college campuses across the country should be OK to reopen, but officials need to proceed with caution and make safety a priority, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday.

  • The default position with K-12 schools should be to reopen them, said Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    There are two big reasons schools should go back to in-person learning, Fauci said Monday. Students need the psychological and nutritional benefits of being in school, and parents may have to "dramatically modify their work schedule."

  • "The primary consideration should always be the safety, the health of the welfare of the children, as well as the teachers and the secondary effects for spreading (to) the parents and other family members," he said.


    On college campuses, Fauci said testing will be the key to reopening. Plans should include testing people before they arrive on campus, when they arrive and keeping quarantining them for 14 days. Colleges should still proceed with caution, though.

  • "If done properly, it would not be a risk, but then again, you've got to be careful when you get people coming in from outside," he said. "But I think if they maintain the guidelines that are put together for people coming back, that they should be fine."

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  • Fauci's remarks come as more than 4.6 million Americans have been infected with Covid-19, and more than 154,000 have died, according to Johns Hopkins data. Despite the data, people are still not heeding warnings from officials and continue to gather in private and public places without protection like masks.

  • "They are ignoring the advice," said aid William Haseltine, chairman and president of ACCESS Health International.
    At least 30 states suffered higher rates of new deaths this past week compared to the previous week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

  • In 12 of those states, the increase in deaths was at least 50%: Washington, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Texas, Mississippi, Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Virginia, West Virginia and Alaska.
    And test positivity rates -- an indicator of how rampantly a virus is spreading -- remain stubbornly high in more than 30 states.

  • As one school district reopens, 260 employees infected or exposed

  • In Gwinnett County, Georgia, where some parents protested in favor of in-person classes, at least 260 school district employees tested positive for the virus or were in contact with someone infected, a district spokeswoman said.

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marsh

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‘I’m sorry, but it’s a fantasy’
Jeff Gregorich, superintendent, on trying to reopen his schools safely

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By Eli Saslow
AUGUST 1, 2020

This is my choice, but I’m starting to wish that it wasn’t. I don’t feel qualified. I’ve been a superintendent for 20 years, so I guess I should be used to making decisions, but I keep getting lost in my head. I’ll be in my office looking at a blank computer screen, and then all of the sudden I realize a whole hour’s gone by. I’m worried. I’m worried about everything. Each possibility I come up with is a bad one.

The governor has told us we have to open our schools to students on August 17th, or else we miss out on five percent of our funding. I run a high-needs district in middle-of-nowhere Arizona. We’re 90 percent Hispanic and more than 90 percent free-and-reduced lunch. These kids need every dollar we can get. But covid is spreading all over this area and hitting my staff, and now it feels like there’s a gun to my head. I already lost one teacher to this virus. Do I risk opening back up even if it’s going to cost us more lives? Or do we run school remotely and end up depriving these kids?

This is your classic one-horse town. Picture John Wayne riding through cactuses and all that. I’m superintendent, high school principal and sometimes the basketball referee during recess. This is a skeleton staff, and we pay an average salary of about 40,000 a year. I’ve got nothing to cut. We’re buying new programs for virtual learning and trying to get hotspots and iPads for all our kids. Five percent of our budget is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Where’s that going to come from? I might lose teaching positions or basic curriculum unless we somehow get up and running.

I’ve been in the building every day, sanitizing doors and measuring out space in classrooms. We still haven’t received our order of Plexiglas barriers, so we’re cutting up shower curtains and trying to make do with that. It’s one obstacle after the next. Just last week I found out we had another staff member who tested positive, so I went through the guidance from OSHA and the CDC and tried to figure out the protocols. I’m not an expert at any of this, but I did my best with the contact tracing. I called 10 people on staff and told them they’d had a possible exposure. I arranged separate cars and got us all to the testing site. Some of my staff members were crying. They’ve seen what can happen, and they’re coming to me with questions I can’t always answer. “Does my whole family need to get tested?” “How long do I have to quarantine?” “What if this virus hits me like it did Mrs. Byrd?”

We got back two of those tests already — both positive. We’re still waiting on eight more.

That makes 11 percent of my staff that’s gotten covid, and we haven’t had a single student in our buildings since March. Part of our facility is closed down for decontamination, but we don’t have anyone left to decontaminate it unless I want to put on my hazmat suit and go in there. We’ve seen the impacts of this virus on our maintenance department, on transportation, on food service, on faculty. It’s like this district is shutting down case by case. I don’t understand how anyone could expect us to reopen the building this month in a way that feels safe. It’s like they’re telling us: “Okay. Summer’s over. It’s been long enough. Time to get back to normal.” But since when has this virus operated on our schedule?

I dream about going back to normal. I’d love to be open. These kids are hurting right now. I don’t need a politician to tell me that. We only have 300 students in this district, and they’re like family. My wife is a teacher here, and we had four kids go through these schools. I know whose parents are laid off from the copper mine and who doesn’t have enough to eat. We delivered breakfast and lunches this summer, and we gave out more meals each day than we have students. I get phone calls from families dealing with poverty issues, depression, loneliness, boredom. Some of these kids are out in the wilderness right now, and school is the best place for them. We all agree on that. But every time I start to play out what that looks like on August 17th, I get sick to my stomach. More than a quarter of our students live with grandparents. These kids could very easily catch this virus, spread it and bring it back home.

It’s not safe. There’s no way it can be safe.

If you think anything else, I’m sorry, but it’s a fantasy. Kids will get sick, or worse. Family members will die. Teachers will die.

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Jeff Gregorich, superintendent of schools at Hayden Winkelman Unified School District in Arizona, shows results of a district survey. (Photos by Caitlin O’Hara for The Washington Post)
Mrs. Byrd did everything right. She followed all the protocols. If there’s such a thing as a safe, controlled environment inside a classroom during a pandemic, that was it. We had three teachers sharing a room so they could teach a virtual summer school. They were so careful.

This was back in June, when cases here were starting to spike. The kids were at home, but the teachers wanted to be together in the classroom so they could team up on the new technology. I thought that was a good idea. It’s a big room. They could watch and learn from each other. Mrs. Byrd was a master teacher. She’d been here since 1982, and she was always coming up with creative ideas. They delivered care packages to the elementary students so they could sprout beans for something hands-on at home, and then the teachers all took turns in front of the camera. All three of them wore masks. They checked their temperatures. They taught on their own devices and didn’t share anything, not even a pencil.

At first she thought it was a sinus infection. That’s what the doctor told her, but it kept getting worse. I got a call that she’d been rushed to the hospital. Her oxygen was low, and they put her on a ventilator pretty much right away. The other two teachers started feeling sick the same weekend, so they went to get tested. They both had it bad for the next month. Mrs. Byrd’s husband got it and was hospitalized. Her brother got it and passed away. Mrs. Byrd fought for a few weeks until she couldn’t anymore.

I’ve gone over it in my head a thousand times. What precautions did we miss? What more could I have done? I don’t have an answer. These were three responsible adults in an otherwise empty classroom, and they worked hard to protect each other. We still couldn’t control it. That’s what scares me.

We got the whole staff together for grief counseling. We did it virtually, over Zoom. There’s sadness, and it’s also so much fear. My wife is one of our teachers in the primary grade, and she has asthma. She was explaining to me how every kid who sees her automatically gives her a hug. They arrive in the morning — hug. Leave for recess — hug. Lunch — hug. Locker — hug. That’s all day. Even if we do everything perfectly, germs are going to spread inside a school. We share the same space. We share the same air.

A bunch of our teachers have told me they will put in for retirement if we open up this month. They’re saying: “Please don’t make us go back. This is crazy. We’re putting the whole community at risk.”

They’re right. I agree with them 100 percent. Teachers don’t feel safe. Most parents said in a survey that they’re “very concerned” about sending their kids back to school. So why are we getting bullied into opening? This district isn’t ready to open. I can’t have more people getting sick. Why are they threatening our funding? I keep waiting for someone higher up to take this decision out of my hands and come to their senses. I’m waiting for real leadership, but maybe it’s not going to happen.

It’s me. It’s the biggest decision of my career, and the one part I’m certain about is it’s going to hurt either way.
 

dstraito

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Don't know if anybody mentioned this before, but for a pandemic this is a pretty slow moving one. Last 10 day average from John Hopkins is just above 60K confirmed per day.

If we can nudge this up to 70K per day, it will only take 13 years or so more to infect all US citizens.

If this was a real pandemic, doubling infections every 4-6 days the US would have been tapped out by the end of May.

Something isn't right in Denmark.

This first wave was just a test run. See how far they can push the American people. The second wave will be far more deadly if you interpret that Gates smirking video where he says the second wave will get peoples attention.

At play are election optics, the better the Dim candidate the less severe the second wave.

Based on that, better buckle down the hatches as it will be a bumpy ride.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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MDS...I like it. This never should of moved from a medical issue to a political one regardless what side of the fence one is on. I don’t like the nanny state. I see no reason for seat belt laws, helmet laws etc. However, wearing a seat belt when driving a car or a helmet when riding a motorcycle or atv is just good common sense that shouldn’t need to be codified. Instead the issue has been turned into one of either blind obedience or rebellion against the system with common sense relegated into the back seat.

Masks are not mandated for me by my governor, nor my county or city. I have been wearing one since this started. I do it so that I don't inadvertently infect someone else. I hope those around me wear one so they don't inadvertently infect me. To me it's what good neighbors do for each other. Nothing more, nothing less. There have been interested parties who have turned this into a political football. There are interested parties who think they win if the virus spikes and rages out of control, because they think it will tilt the election away from Trump. The more casualites in the fall, the more they'll blame him. If the virus rages out of control, they can make the vaccine mandatory. I would rather wear a mask (which like you said is really no different than being told to wear a seatbelt, or a helmet, or have to go through TSA when I fly, that I can't bring in a water bottle past the security check in at the airport, that no smoking is allowed in a building, that I have to wear shoes and a shirt when I enter an establishment,that I have to show ID to buy alchohol, .... etc etc etc) than be told I have to take a vaccine. And if people don't wear masks, and the numbers go up, the vaccine pushers win. Personally, like you, I wish they didn't have to mandate masks, I'm not comfortable with that type of political intrusion either. I wish everyone from the start saw the good sense of wearing one and volunteered to do is so that it never became a political issue in the first place. And of course, you and I and others who do wear a mask can be for masks and still be for liberty and our constitutional and God given rights and Trump. It's not all mutually exclusive.

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Heliobas Disciple

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HD, thank you for all your hard work to keep us updated!

You're welcome! I have been considering giving it a rest when Marsh stops posting. I was posting along with her. It's been more than 6 months and I've read every post and posted every day but it takes time and this may be a good time to let it go. I have a feeling without Marsh bumping the thread in the afternoon, this will end up on page 3 or 4 by the time I sign on and that's ok with me. We did our job, those with eyes to see and ears to hear, have seen and heard. We're not changing anyone else's minds here on TB.

I believe COVID is a bio-weapon and that the politicians and the political medical establishment (CDC, NIH, WHO) have all been playing politics with it, that they all only care about themselves, their power, their agenda and their pocketbook and that if they actually cared about human lives all of them (both sides of the aisle) would have reacted differently from day one. They didn't because it's never been about saving lives for them. But none of that means the virus isn't real and isn't going to kill a lot more people than it already has, and they'll have to live with what they did and didn't do to that could have made it less lethal. But I don't think at this point anyting posted on this thread is changing anyone's mind; everyone is locked into their position. So this may be a good time to let the thread die a natural death. I'll see how the thread goes with marsh stopping. If others want to pick up the mantle and post videos and articles and keep it going that would be fine and I'll contribute if something seems important, but if you don't see me posting as often after she stops, that's why. :)


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Heliobas Disciple

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Florida numbers continue to go down. I do think a lot of that is because of mask requirements and some stages of lockdown coming back into effect (no bars, no crowds) but I meant to point out yesterday that they're not testing half of the state. That has to effect the numbers as well.

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With busiest Florida testing sites closed, new coronavirus cases drop significantly
Orange, Miami state-run COVID-19 testing sites closed July 30 due to Tropical Storm Isaias
Emilee Speck
August 3, 2020, 5:20 pm


Florida on Monday reported its lowest number of new coronavirus cases since June 23, with less than 4,800 new positive results, however, the figure is no reason for celebration because it is tied to the lack of testing due to all state-run testing sites closing because of Tropical Storm Isaias.

Most Florida-run testing sites have been closed since last week when forecasts put most of the state in then Hurricane Isaias’ path. The sites that closed included the busiest in Orange and Miami-Dade counties.

For context, all last week the state reported more than 87,000 people tested per day. On Saturday, the state reported just under 61,000.

While some test results can take up to two weeks rapid test results can come back in under an hour and priority one tests come back within 1-2 days. Those tests all go into the state total. With the state’s largest testing sites now closed for five days, Florida reported a drop in testing by 26,000 tests per day.

The Florida Department of Health reported 4,752 cases on Monday, bringing the state overall total to 491,884 since March. The last time Florida reported under 5,000 new cases was June 23.

Because testing numbers dropped significantly beginning July 30 when many testing sites closed deaths and hospitalizations are important factors to monitor.

The state reported 73 new COVID-19 fatalities on Monday, bringing the death toll to 7,279. That number includes 122 non-residents who died of the virus while in Florida. Across the state, 216 new patients are now hospitalized with the virus. Since March, 27,366 people have been hospitalized with the virus, according to the DOH.

Over the weekend the state’s positivity rate dropped below 10% for the first time since June 24. On Monday, the positivity rate for the number of people who tested positive for the first time compared to the overall tests was 9.09%. Health officials agree that it should be under 10% or better yet 5% to show the number of infections are leveling off. [...]

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Heliobas Disciple

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Los Angeles Coronavirus Update: L.A. Health Director Says, “Closing The Bars Worked,” Amid Promising COVID Numbers
Tom Tapp
August 3, 2020 5:28pm

Expressing cautious optimism about the success of efforts to control the coronavirus, L.A. County Public Health director Dr. Barbara Ferrer said Monday that the closure of bars and elimination of indoor dining, along with cooperation from residents, have slowed the illness’s spread.

Ferrer said the county is “cautiously optimistic that we’re getting back on track” in efforts to combat COVID-19, but she added, “I want to emphasize the word ‘cautiously.'”

Ferrer pointed to steady declines in hospitalization numbers, which were averaging around 2,200 patients a day in mid-July but have dropped below 2,000.

As of Monday, the number of people hospitalized in the county was reported at 1,784.

“Simply put, closing the bars worked,” Ferrer said. “It also worked to limit indoor dining at restaurants and to move the operations of various businesses outdoors. This is particularly true in those places where customers were not being to be able to wear their face coverings and/or they were in crowded situations.”

She also heaped praise on residents for adhering to health restrictions.

“I do want to give credit where credit is due,” she said. “A large reason why we’re seeing the decline is because residents heard the warning, heeded the orders and took personal basic actions that were needed to slow the virus. Folks wore their face coverings, they maintained physical distance from people they don’t live with, they avoided gatherings and parties, and they washed their hands.”

Ferrer reported relatively low numbers of new coronavirus cases (1,634) and deaths (12) on Monday. Lower numbers are anticipated on Mondays due to lags in reporting from weekend testing sites.

The city of Long Beach, which has its own health department, reported another 77 cases Monday and one additional death. Pasadena, which also maintains its own health agency, reported 12 new cases. The new reports lifted the countywide totals since the start of the pandemic to 193,877 cases and 4,702 deaths.

COVID-19 Daily Update:
August 3, 2020
Cases: 1,634 (193,499 to date)
Deaths: 12 (4,701 to date)
Current Hospitalizations: 1,784 pic.twitter.com/3S0nmFTUWl
— LA Public Health (@lapublichealth) August 3, 2020

Ferrer walked through statistics from the month of July, generally showing that average daily numbers of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths spiked in the middle of the month — increases that earlier were attributed in part to mass gatherings that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend.

Most of those statistics tailed off toward the end of the month, though the daily numbers of deaths remained elevated, since it is considered a lagging indicator that often accumulates later on the heels of increased hospitalizations.

Whether the county can continue to see those numbers trend in the right direction again will be contingent on public cooperation, and residents’ ability to avoid falling into complacency in response to improving numbers, said Ferrer.

“The question is, where do we go from here?” she said. “For our long-term success, we need to be able to limit the spread of COVID-19 for many, many weeks to come. … We need to understand that we are in fact creating a new normal. We can’t go back to life as we knew it before March, not right now.

“A few months ago when we collectively and successfully flattened the curve and we reopened many of our key businesses and community sectors,” she continued, “a lot of us decided that that meant we could resume life as we knew it before the pandemic hit. We simply can’t do this again. We still have a ways to go to reduce community transmission.”

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Heliobas Disciple

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N.J. sees spike in COVID-19 cases as residents slack off on masks and social distancing
Cuomo slams Trump's coronavirus 'chaos,' WHO dashes new vaccine hopes, Birx feels wrath of Pelosi and prez

Nigel Chiwaya and Corky Siemaszko
Aug. 3, 2020, 4:11 PM EDT

Alarm bells went off in New Jersey on Monday as a state that appeared to have successfully flattened the coronavirus curve saw the number of new cases spike by 175 percent in the last two weeks, an NBC News analysis of the latest figures showed.

As of Monday morning, New Jersey had reported 185,537 confirmed cases and 15,836 deaths, according to the latest numbers. The state's rate of transmission had climbed back up to 1.48, equal to the levels in April when the pandemic was at its worst in the state.

From July 20 through Aug. 2, New Jersey logged 5,070 new cases and 134 deaths, the NBC News figures showed.

Gov. Phil Murphy responded Monday by tightening restrictions on the number of people who can gather at indoor venues or parties from 100 to 25.

"Limiting indoor gatherings to 25 people is a pretty meaningful step," Murphy, a Democrat, said. "We knew as we reopened we'd take on more risk."

The governor on Friday conceded that the state was “standing in a very dangerous place” and he placed the blame squarely on the “knuckleheads” who fail to follow the rules.

“Everyone who walks around refusing to wear a mask or who hosts a house party is directly contributing to these increases,” Murphy said. “This has to stop, and it has to stop now.”

While Murphy has threatened to tighten COVID-19 restrictions, he appeared to have few ways of enforcing a mask mandate or other safety requirements, other than hectoring people to comply with his directives.

But it isn't hard to find evidence that people in New Jersey aren't being as safe as they could be.

At popular outdoor venues like The Waterfront, in West Orange at the South Mountain Recreation Complex, dozens of strollers walking around the reservoir could be seen on Saturday afternoon ignoring signs to wear masks and follow trail directions, and there were no police officers or park workers in sight to set them straight. Nor did there appear to be anybody policing the packed playgrounds where mostly mask-less parents mingled with mostly mask-less children.

And while beaches up and down the Jersey Shore were requiring sunbathers to don masks to enter, once they hit the sand there did not appear to be much effort to make sure that the masks stayed on, or that visitors were social-distancing on the sand and in the surf.

Further, house parties in Jersey Shore towns like Middletown and on Long Beach Island that drew crowds of teenagers have been linked to dozens of new coronavirus cases in recent weeks. And state health officials were still awaiting the fallout from a massive house party at an Airbnb rental in the town of Jackson last month that drew some 700 people and resulted in three arrests when police shut it down.

New Jersey was one of the hardest-hit states early on in the pandemic, and Murphy was initially praised for taking decisive action. The governor was also one of the first to require masks to be worn outdoor at public venues.

New Jersey is not the only state to have slid back on the number of new cases. Hawaii has also seen a big spike, with a 156 percent increase in new cases over the past 14 days, according to the NBC News tally. But the numbers there are far less dire than New Jersey’s, with 2,219 total cases and 26 deaths.[...]

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Heliobas Disciple

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260 employees in Georgia's largest school district test positive for or exposed to coronavirus
Gwinnett County, which has the state's largest school district, has seen 4,000 new cases in the past two weeks.

Ben Kesslen
Aug. 3, 2020, 12:37 PM EDT

Around 260 employees in Georgia’s largest school district have been “excluded from work” after testing positive for the coronavirus or being exposed to the virus, the county told NBC News on Monday.

Sloan Roach, a spokesperson for the Gwinnett County School District — which has an estimated 180,000 students in the Atlanta Metro area — said the number is an approximation of their record since last Thursday. She did not reply to a follow-up question about whether the number encompasses the total amount of employees sickened or exposed since the pandemic began.

“This number is fluid as we continue to have new reports and others who are returning to work,” she said in an email.

Roach said that, through contact tracing, they have determined the majority of cases stem from community spread and many employees have called in sick who have not been at school or work.

“Given the number of COVID cases in Gwinnett we would expect to see positives among our employees,” Roach said. The county, Georgia’s second largest, has recorded almost 18,000 cases since the pandemic began, but 4,000 alone in the last two weeks, according to data from the Georgia Department of Public Health. Two hundred and forty people in Gwinnett have died from the virus.

The county's announcement comes as Georgia nears 200,000 cases and 4,000 deaths, and as schools weigh the risks of reopening with in-person instruction.

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Heliobas Disciple

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Reopening schools in September WILL lead to a catastrophic second wave of coronavirus unless NHS test and trace drastically improves, major study claims
Vanessa Chalmers and Eleanor Hayward
Published: 18:30 EDT, 3 August 2020 | Updated: 21:32 EDT, 3 August 2020

  • Reopening schools could result in another crisis that could yield a second wave 2-2.3 times the size of the first
  • But it could be avoided if testing reaches 75% of cases and NHS contact tracing system reaches 68% of public
  • However, scientists say current system is 'not good enough' and a fraction of symptomatic cases are tested
  • The authors said without improvements in testing it will be 'absolutely essential' to introduce other measures

Children returning to school in September will trigger a devastating second wave of Covid-19 that could infect twice as many as the first unless the test and trace system drastically improves, a major study has claimed.

Scientists said reopening schools in the UK would inevitably result in another crisis that peaks in December.

But it could be avoided — with pubs remaining open and no draconian lockdowns needed — if testing is dramatically ramped up and the contact tracing system becomes better.

Three quarters of people with Covid-19 would need to be tested and self-isolate to prevent a second wave caused by schools reopening.

It emerged last night that ministers are drawing up plans for testing squads to enter classrooms in areas with a high infection rate to avoid closing down the how school.

Experts found that, to prevent a second wave when schools reopen, the NHS contact tracing system must reach 68 per cent of cases and their contacts.

But the current NHS system is 'not good enough'. It reaches half of contacts and only a fraction of symptomatic cases are tested, according to researchers from University College London and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

The authors said without improvements in testing it will be 'absolutely essential' to introduce other measures in September to 'mitigate' the effects of schools opening. This could mean pubs are forced to shut or greater restrictions are placed on people meeting indoors.

England's chief medical officer last week admitted the UK may have reached a limit for how much society can be opened up safely, without leading to a resurgence of the virus.

One scientist who advises the government even suggested closing pubs as a trade-off for allowing schools to finally open again.

Getting children back to classrooms was heralded by Boris Johnson as a 'national priority' and it emerged last night ministers are considering sending testing squads into schools in hard-hit regions.

A localised approach to tackling the crisis has been adopted by Downing Street, which has reimposed lockdown restrictions in some Northern towns suffering flare-ups.

Teachers and pupils in areas with higher infection rates will receive be tested for the virus to allow authorities to identify any cases and keep schools open, according to The Times.

When Leicester was plunged into a second lockdown, all schools were forced to shut - blanket measures ministers are keen to avoid in future.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson is working on a timetable to have all schools open full-time in September.

To get children back into lessons he will reportedly pour millions of pounds into council pots to fund bus services for pupils.

More school buses is seen as a key to getting pupils into school as it is easier to enforce social distancing, according to The Sun.

Getting children into classrooms is also a crucial element in firing up the economy, as it will allow parents providing childcare to go back to work.

Many businesses are not expecting workers to return to offices until the end of the year, while the likes of Facebook UK and the RBS banking group said staff will not go back until 2021.

Financial services company Legal & General said just 1,200 of its 5,000 staff were back in the office and it was aiming to get 80 per cent of its workers back to the office ‘for a day or two per fortnight’.

Advertising giant WPP said 99 per cent of its 11,000 staff continue to work remotely, adding: ‘We will continue to allow people to work from home until they feel safe commuting and coming into work.’

HSBC, Europe’s largest bank, said it expected flexible working to become the norm after the pandemic, reducing its need for office space.

Shell, which has 4,700 UK office workers, said it would start a ‘phased return’ from the end of September.

It came as a new report found 80 per cent of workers claimed they were more or equally productive at home as in the office. And more than six in ten surveyed by Equiem said they expected to work remotely from the office at least once a week once lockdown is lifted.

The Government has admitted just one in five of its own 430,000 workforce has returned to the office – meaning hundreds of thousands of civil servants are still working from home.

Another study also published today suggested that schools could re-open safely but only under strict rules and with robust contact tracing.

The research looked at how Covid-19 spread in schools in Australia, one of the only countries to keep its schools open during the pandemic.

It found that outbreaks were not common in schools and children do not spread the coronavirus as much as adults do. Separate scientific research has found exactly the opposite.

Schools in England, Wales and Northern Ireland are planned to return in September, while Scotland's first term begins at a slightly later date than usual on August 11.

But as cases of Covid-19 rise in the UK, there are concerns school start-dates will be delayed. The easing of some lockdown restrictions were set back on August 1.

Professor Chris Whitty, England's CMO, said on Friday the UK has probably reached a limit for how much of society can be opened up safely just weeks before schools are supposed to return.

Today researchers at UCL working with a team at LSHTM revealed that, if schools do re-open and lockdown is gradually lifted with more people slowly returning to work, a second wave will occur.

The secondary wave would result in the R rate — the number of people each Covid-19 patient infects — rising above the dreaded number of one.

This could yield a secondary wave of infections 2-2.3 times the size of the first, which has so far killed around 46,201 people.

The peak would come in December, or in February 2021 if schools re-open on just a part-time basis.

Dr Jasmina Panovska-Griffiths, study author, said: 'Our results are reflective of a broader loosening of lockdown, rather than the effects of transmission within schools exclusively.'

The study, published today in The Lancet Child and Adolescent Health, assumed children were as infectious as adults.

But the results remained true even when the team re-ran the model with the assumption that children and young people were 50 per cent as infectious as adults.

Commenting on the study, Matt Keeling, professor of populations and disease at University of Warwick, said: 'In essence the problem is simple.

'Reopening schools is going to increase the R number so if we are to keep R below 1 and prevent a second wave, some other forms of control are necessary.

'The reopening of schools should clearly be a key priority for the UK, many children will have gone over 5 months without setting foot in a classroom.

'The key questions are how much impact will school reopening have on the epidemic and what can be done to mitigate this.'

The study found a second wave could be prevented, however, if a robust testing and an adequate contact tracing system was in place.

Both have come under intense scrutiny in the UK, with test and trace performance figures in England worsening last week.

The research will heap pressure on Health Secretary Matt Hancock and Baroness Harding – the head of the test and trace scheme – to get the system up to scratch before children go back next month.

The study said testing would need to be ramped up so between 59 per cent and 87 per cent of symptomatic patients are tested during the infectious period.

It is not clear how many symptomatic patients in the UK are tested each day.

But one of the study authors, Chris Bonell, professor of public health sociology at LSHTM, said: 'It looks from the ONS data like there are about 4,200 new infections per day.

'And it looks like from the testing data there are about 4,200 testing positive per week. So it looks like about one in seven (14 per cent). So, that's not good enough, basically.'

The study said 75 per cent of individuals with symptomatic infection would need to be diagnosed and isolated if schools return full-time in September. It dips to 65 per cent if schools run on a part-time rota system.

This is based on the contact tracing system reaching 68 per cent of people — a combination of 75 per cent of positive Covid-19 cases and 90 per cent of their contacts.

The NHS is currently reaching an overall standard of 50 per cent, Professor Bonell claims.

'Currently, test, trace, isolating (TTI) is not achieving the levels that we modelled. Looking at the NHS reports from the TTI system, it looks like it's about 50 per cent coverage.'

He added: 'The most recent data [shows] about 81 per cent of positives are interviewed, about 81 per cent of those report contacts and about 75 per cent of those contacts are reached so overall that equates to coverage of 50 per cent.'

If only 40 per cent of contacts could be traced, under a more pessimistic tracing scenario, testing would need to increase to a higher 87 per cent if school returned full time.

Professor Bonell said: 'Our study should not be used to keep schools shut because of a fear of a second wave but as a loud call to action to improve the infection control measures and test and trace system so we can get children back to school.'

Professor Bonell suggested that other sectors will face new restrictions in September unless the coverage reached by NHS Test & Trace improves.

He said: 'We're not giving specific recommendations about what sectors need to have restrictions imposed, but logically that is absolutely essential.'

Professor Bonell added that ‘safe mitigation measures must be in place’ before schools reopen for all pupils in all year groups in September.

Professor Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said the NHS and Government must be ‘held to account’ over the test and trace strategy.

He added that officials should be ‘thinking carefully’ about what measures could be taken in September to allow schools to reopen safely.

But he said that game-changing virus tests which provide results in 90 minutes provided ‘real reasons for optimism’.

Business and Industry Minister Nadhim Zahawi yesterday said the tests, which will be rolled out next week, could be used to help schools stay open.

It follows Professor Graham Medley, a top Government scientific adviser, suggesting on Sunday that pubs may need to shut when schools open.

Another study published in the same Lancet journal today also suggests schools in the UK can re-open safely — but only if stringent control measures are in place.

Researchers identified all staff and children who attended a school or nursery in the Australian state of New South Wales while they had Covid-19.

Overall, 12 children and 15 adults were found to have attended schools or nurseries while infectious between 25 January to 10 April, when term ended.

All adults or the parents of children were interviewed at diagnosis to track who the cases had been in contact with during the time that they were infectious.

Once contacts were identified, they were told to self isolate and were tested if they showed symptoms, allowing the authors to calculate how many secondary transmissions were linked with each primary case.

The team showed that, of the 633 close contacts who were tested following symptoms, 18 were found to have Covid-19.

It means that 1.2 per cent of all close contacts (1,448) got the coronavirus from a primary case.

However, some asymptomatic or milder cases may have been missed seeing as testing was only of those with tell-tale signs.

Further analysis of a subset of schools showed the transmission rate between staff (4.4 per cent) was much higher than between children (0.3 per cent), suggesting children do not spread the virus as much as adults.

The attack rate from child to staff was one per cent for child-to-staff, compared to 1.5 per cent the other way around.

The researchers, led by Professor Kristine Macartney also said the transmission rates may have been higher in areas where contact tracing systems and testing were not as rigorous.

In a linked commentary discussing both articles, Professor John Edmunds, a leading authority on mathematical modelling of the spread of infectious diseases at LSHTM, said: 'Both studies give potential options for keeping schools open and show the clear importance of adequate contact tracing and testing.'

The UCL study modelled six different scenarios of school reopening using baseline data about how the coronavirus spreads.

Alongside school reopening, the model included the relaxation of measures across society, which they assumed would accompany one another.

For each scenario, they estimated the number of new infections and deaths, as well as the effective reproduction number.

As with any modelling study, a number of assumptions were made about the spread of the virus to measure the effects of lifting lockdown.

For example, it assumed the test used by Public Health England is 100 per cent accurate — however it is known this isn't the case. And the model assumes everyone tested gets their result within 24 hours, which official statistics show is not true either.

In the UK, around three quarters of tests outside of hospitals are being returned in 24 hours, despite Prime Minister Boris Johnson setting a target of 100 per cent by the end of June.

Dr Adam Kucharski, an associate professor in infectious disease epidemiology, LSHTM, said the model uses a 'very optimistic scenario about the speed and performance of testing'.

He added: 'In reality, there will be a trade off with speed and effectiveness – even if a high proportion of people ill with COVID-19 are tested, it won't stop transmission if test results end up taking too long or infected contacts aren't traced before they become infectious.'

It comes as Mr Hancock said that testing in schools will be expanded due to machines which can reveal if a person is infected within 90 minutes.

He said there is ‘currently survey testing’ in some schools but suggested the machines could be deployed to screen pupils even if they don’t show symptoms.

But the researchers warned that without improvements in testing, it will be ‘absolutely essential’ to introduce other measures to ‘mitigate’ the impact of schools opening.

This could mean that pubs are forced to shut or greater restrictions are placed on meeting others indoors.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman confirmed that all pupils will return full-time in September but acknowledged that outbreaks of coronavirus could force some schools to close.

He said: ‘You’ve heard from the Prime Minister on many occasions his absolute commitment to getting children back into school in September and that’s vital for their education and their development.

‘We are planning for all pupils in all year groups to be in school full-time from the beginning of the autumn term.’

Evidence shows children are unlikely to get ill with the virus but it is still not clear how much they contribute to its spread.

Yesterday new Australian research found there were ‘low’ levels of coronavirus transmission in schools and nurseries. Figures collected from 15 schools and ten nurseries showed that although 27 children or teachers went to lessons while infectious, only an additional 18 people became infected.

A Government spokesman said: ‘We have the capacity to carry out more than 330,000 tests per day, growing to 500,000 per day by the end of October. Plans have been put in place to ensure schools can reopen safely.’

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What scientists are learning about kids and Covid-19 infection
Several new studies are deepening our understanding of infection and transmission in kids, but there’s still a lot we don’t know.

Lois Parshley
Aug 3, 2020, 12:30pm EDT

In mid-June, a sleepaway camp in Georgia opened for its first camp session of the summer, welcoming 363 campers and 234 staffers and trainees back for what was supposed to be a fun summer outdoors. The camp followed most of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines, including keeping campers in cabin groups as much as possible. But the campers were not required to wear masks for camp activities, including singing and cheering.

Six days in, a teenage staff member left camp after developing chills, and tested positive for Covid-19. Eventually, 49 percent of the campers, even children as young as age 6, were found to have been infected, while 19 percent of trainees and 56 percent of staff were infected. Notably, 26 percent of the cases reported no symptoms.

A CDC report on the Georgia camp joins a rapidly growing body of desperately needed evidence of how the coronavirus impacts children and young people. In July alone, several studies of note were published, including new findings about infected children’s viral loads, lessons from large-scale contact tracing in South Korea, and associations of transmission with US school closures.

The same CDC report showed that the virus spreads efficiently even in groups of young children in an overnight setting, resulting in rapid transmission in all age groups — despite efforts by the camp to reduce the spread. It also finds that asymptomatic infection was common in children, and “potentially contributed to undetected transmission.”

Three new important studies came out in the past week about kids & #COVID19. All have limits (the science isn't perfect). But together, they matter, & you deserve to know about them!
A thread on the takeaways for all of us, as parents / teachers / communities?
— Megan Ranney MD MPH (@meganranney) July 31, 2020

These findings come as some school districts are still debating reopening, and the US battles a surge in Covid-19 cases. Although the new daily case average has started to decline, most states are reporting uncontrolled transmission, with alarmingly high test positivity rates, and increasing hospitalizations. Meanwhile, data discrepancies after the Department of Health and Human Services took over reporting Covid-19 data are also making it harder to track the impact of the virus.

Yet we do know substantially more about kids and Covid-19 than we did in March. And even though we’re learning at a furious pace, it’s still not enough.

“While it may feel like we’ve been in the midst of this forever, we’ve only been studying this virus for six months,” says Megan Ranney, an emergency physician and the director for the Center for Digital Health at Brown University, who researches pediatric mental health. Scientists like to talk about making evidence-based decisions, but right now, there are enough inconclusive or contradicting studies about children that people are able to cherry-pick the ones that support their preexisting opinion. So, Ranney says, “You have to be suspicious of anyone who is dogmatic.”

While many have strong opinions about priorities and how much risk is acceptable, it’s hard to make evidence-based decisions when we still don’t even definitively know how likely children are to transmit the virus. With that in mind, here’s a dive into what we do — and don’t — know about Covid-19, children, and classrooms.

Why researchers think Covid-19 is generally mild in children

While children can get Covid-19, the illness is generally less severe than in adults. The CDC says that children under the age of 18 account for less than 7 percent of US Covid-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of the deaths.

Most children with Covid-19 have mild symptoms, the most common being fever and cough, according to a comprehensive National Academies of Medicine report from mid-July on setting priorities for reopening schools.

This is supported by one of the largest-scale pediatric studies to date, which appeared in late June in Lancet Child & Adolescent Health. It looked at data from 582 children under the age of 18 in 21 countries and found that “Covid-19 is generally a mild disease in children.” But, it acknowledged, kids can sometimes get seriously ill: More than half of the children in the study were admitted to a hospital, and four died.

That hospitalization rate may be higher than average because kids were included in the study only if they were sick enough to be tested or admitted to a hospital. The American Academy of Pediatrics estimates that somewhere between 0.6 percent and 9 percent of pediatric Covid-19 cases result in hospitalization. A preprint study that has not yet been peer-reviewed of 31 household clusters in five countries found that 12 percent of children had severe cases.

There’s growing evidence children with preexisting conditions like cardiac disabilities have an increased risk of severe cases. Rarely, children with Covid-19 are also developing a severe, multi-system inflammatory syndrome that causes a high fever and a rash and can be deadly. Out of the 342 children in the US with the syndrome, 71 percent were in Hispanic and non-Hispanic Black children — more evidence of Covid-19’s disturbingly disproportionate impact on communities of color in the country.

We’re also still learning about long-term consequences and prolonged symptoms of Covid-19, which appear to affect as many as 87 percent of adults, and we don’t know what that might look like in kids. Ranney says, “We just don’t know. It would be disingenuous of me to say there’s no long-term risk, just because we don’t have data. It’s also not fair to say kids are at high risk of long-term symptoms just because adults are.”

Does the age of kids matter when it comes to Covid-19 risk?

There does appear to be a difference between younger children and adolescents, both in terms of their likelihood of getting infected with Covid-19 and the likelihood of more severe disease.

One study from late July of 16,025 people across the US showed that children over age 10 may get infected after exposure at rates on par with adults. A study in Iceland also found that 10 years old seemed to be the threshold when incidence rates changed. According to the CDC, nearly one-third of US pediatric Covid-19 cases were between the ages of 15 and 17, and the median age was 11. (As in adults, boys are slightly more likely to get sick than girls.)

This all suggests that middle school and high school may pose different risks for children than elementary schools — although there’s still a risk to teachers and other adult staff. (The Kaiser Family Foundation found that about one-quarter of US teachers are at higher risk of severe Covid-19 cases because of their age or preexisting conditions.)

It’s still unclear why younger children may be less susceptible. One possibility is they are more frequently exposed to related coronaviruses, like the common cold, and since immunity from these exposures lessens over time, kids who have recently been infected might have some protection that adults don’t.

Or, another new study suggests that the gene for a receptor the virus attaches to in the upper airway is expressed less in children than adults. Generally, the immune system becomes less robust as you age, so it’s also possible children’s immune systems just mount a better response to the virus — not too much and not too little. Or, because younger children don’t generate as much force when coughing or speaking to aerosolize the virus, they may be less likely to transmit the virus to others in indoor spaces, even if they are sick. But overall, the jury is still out.

If kids can transmit Covid-19, how often do they?


If children are exposed to the virus, it appears they may be at a lower risk of developing Covid-19. One study published in Nature in June with data from six countries suggests kids under the age of 20 are about half as likely to get sick after exposure as adults; other studies in Israel, the Netherlands, and Switzerland consistently report children get infected less easily than adults.

But children can certainly transmit the virus both to each other and to adults. The question is how often they do.

Scientists have repeatedly found infected children have similar viral loads to adults, and a new study out July 21 in JAMA found that young children may have even more of the virus. It looked at different ages and found that children under age 5 had very high levels of the virus in their nose and throat, compared to adults. (Some experts speculated there may have been sampling bias in the study — testing primarily children with symptoms, when children having symptoms may not be the norm.) An important caveat, Ranney says, is this doesn’t necessarily mean the virus is infectious — the next step will be actually trying to culture live virus from swabs of children.

And again, the age of the child likely matters when it comes to their ability to transmit the virus: A study in South Korea followed the contacts of 5,700 Covid-19 patients and found that children between ages 10 and 19 spread the virus at a similar rate as adults, while children under the age of 10 transmit much less. A limitation of the study is that they looked at transmission in households, where masks and social distancing were less likely. And a preprint — a study that hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed — from Italy that also came out in late July found that children under age 14 are slightly less likely to be infected than adults, but actually 9 percent more likely to transmit the virus overall.

Multiple studies suggest that children are rarely the first person in a household to get sick, meaning they’re more likely to get it from their parents than to give it to their parents. But household studies are often biased because researchers are looking for who got sick first via reported symptoms — and kids are more likely to be asymptomatic.

Why community transmission is so central to the question of reopening schools

Reports on how likely schools are to drive wider community outbreaks outside of households are mixed. Even if children don’t transmit the virus as readily as adults, they have as much as three times the number of contacts — meaning they have three times the number of opportunities to transmit the virus.

Because schools in the US have been closed, we don’t yet have data on transmission from American classrooms. A new study looked at how states with early closure of schools had reduced levels of Covid-19 compared to states that closed schools later — even after adjusting for other state policies like lockdown orders. This does not mean shutting schools caused lower levels of coronavirus cases, but the researchers found a strong correlation. This association would mean more if school closures hadn’t occurred within days of other measures, making it harder to measure school impact.

This is where comparing other countries’ experiences may be helpful: For example, Sweden kept elementary schools open and closed middle and high schools. Finland closed all three. When researchers compared the two Nordic countries, they found that because of limited testing, the infection rate in younger children was probably significantly underestimated. They suggest given the available data, it did not appear that keeping elementary schools open drove Swedish community outbreaks.

But there have been Swedish school outbreaks — in one school, 18 of 76 staff were infected, and several teachers have died — although the lack of testing and contact tracing makes it difficult to draw conclusions. A Swedish Public Health Survey in May found a comparatively high antibody rate in children, suggesting there may have been significant transmission in schools.

In other places, school transmission has been more clear cut. For example, one study in France found that new cases dropped when school holidays began. When Israel tried to reopen schools in stages in May, within two weeks, over 20 schools had to close again, and hundreds of students were infected. (That was when transmission rates in Israel were much lower than they are in most of the US today.) Eyal Leshem, the director of the Institute for Travel and Tropical Medicine at the Sheba Medical Center in Israel, says, “It has been known for many years that school closure is one of the highest impact interventions to stop a pandemic influenza outbreak.”

In a recent study of 727 people, the Israeli Health Ministry found 28 percent were infected in educational institutions. Leshem adds, “In retrospect, it could be expected that when you reopen schools, children are drivers of respiratory viral outbreaks.” One study goes so far as to suggest that closing schools might be the single most important non-pharmaceutical intervention in reducing rates of Covid-19. “Based on the South Korean and Israeli school outbreaks, it’s clear schools do spread Covid-19,” says Chethan Sathya, a pediatric surgeon and assistant professor of surgery at the Cohen Children’s Medical Center in New York.

The reason why some countries seem to have school outbreaks and others don’t is likely linked to how much of the virus is circulating in the communities around the school. And this brings us to a key point in thinking about kids’ risk of Covid-19: Their risk is largely driven by the extent of the community transmission.

Realistically, we MUST control levels of community transmission of #COVID19 if we want kids & teachers in schools.
We may be able to send kids back, but we need PPE & regular, random testing of kids & teachers, whether in elementary, middle, high school, or college pic.twitter.com/8W5FsALGwv
— Megan Ranney MD MPH (@meganranney) July 31, 2020

For example, researchers from Stanford University, Georgia Tech, and the Applied Bioinformatics Laboratory have developed an online calculator that tells you what the chances are of someone in a group having Covid-19. It says that right now a group of 20 people in Miami — like you would have in a classroom — has a 98 percent chance of at least one person having Covid-19.

In the last two weeks of July, Florida saw a 34 percent increase in new cases in children and a 23 percent increase in pediatric hospitalizations. A small percentage of a big number still means a lot of kids are getting sick.

This makes families’ choices about schools even harder. “It feels like a truly impossible decision for parents to make,” says Julia Marcus, an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School. “There are so many competing priorities and so little certainty.”

Pooja Lakshmin, a perinatal psychiatrist specializing in women’s mental health and a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at George Washington University School of Medicine, says she’s had a lot of parents ask her for a solid set of rules that can make things safe. “But this is about balancing multiple risks,” she says.

As school districts and parents around the country weigh their options, Ranney says there are no universal right answers. “The tough thing is that, like with vaccines, your decision impacts not just your kid but other families. A risk you may be able to tolerate might not be okay with your community. So you have to consider not just your family but the health of the community at large.”

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Next big coronavirus treatment may be manufactured antibodies
Drugmakers are confident the right antibodies or a combination can alter the course of the disease

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As the world awaits a COVID-19 vaccine, the next big advance in battling the pandemic could come from a class of biotech therapies widely used against cancer and other disorders -- antibodies designed specifically to attack this new virus.

Development of monoclonal antibodies to target the virus has been endorsed by leading scientists. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious diseases expert, called them “almost a sure bet” against COVID-19.

When a virus gets past the body’s initial defenses, a more specific response kicks in, triggering production of cells that target the invader. These include antibodies that recognize and lock onto a virus, preventing the infection from spreading.

Monoclonal antibodies - grown in bioreactor vats - are copies of these naturally-occurring proteins.

Scientists are still working out the exact role of neutralizing antibodies in recovery from COVID-19, but drugmakers are confident that the right antibodies or a combination can alter the course of the disease that has claimed more than 675,000 lives globally.

“Antibodies can block infectivity. That is a fact,” Regeneron Pharmaceuticals executive Christos Kyratsous told Reuters.

Regeneron is testing a two-antibody cocktail, which it believes limits the ability of the virus’ to escape better than one, with data on its efficacy expected by late summer or early fall. “Protection will wane over time. Dosing is something we don’t know yet,” said Kyratsous.

The U.S. government in June awarded Regeneron a $450 million supply contract. The company said it can immediately begin production at its U.S. plant if regulators approve the treatment.

Eli Lilly and Co, AstraZeneca, Amgen, and GlaxoSmithKline were cleared by the U.S. government to pool manufacturing resources in order to scale up supplies if any of these drugs prove successful.

Even with that unusual cooperation among rivals, manufacturing these medicines is complex and capacity is limited. There is also a debate over whether a single antibody will be powerful enough to stop COVID-19.

AstraZeneca said it plans to start human trials of its dual-antibody combination within weeks.

Lilly, which began human testing in June of two antibody candidates in separate trials, is focusing on a one-drug approach.

“If you need a higher dosage or more antibodies, fewer people can be treated,” Lilly Chief Scientific Officer Dan Skovronsky said.

'INSTANT IMMUNITY'

Unlike vaccines, which activate the body’s own immune system, the impact of infused antibodies eventually dissipates.

Still, drugmakers say monoclonal antibodies could temporarily prevent infection in at-risk people such as medical workers and the elderly. They could also be used as a therapeutic bridge until vaccines become widely available.

“In a prophylactic setting we think we may achieve coverage for up to six months,” said Phil Pang, chief medical officer of Vir Biotechnology, which aims to start testing an antibody in non-hospitalized patients next month with partner GSK.

“The advantage of an antibody is that it is basically instant immunity,” said Mark Brunswick, senior vice president at Sorrento Therapeutics, which aims to begin human trials next month of a single antibody candidate.

Safety risks for monoclonal antibodies are considered low, but their cost can be quite high. These type of drugs for cancer can cost over $100,000 a year.

There is also concern that the coronavirus could become resistant to specific antibodies. Researchers are already at work on second-generation compounds with targets other than the crown-like spikes the virus uses to invade cells.

“We are trying to develop something that is complementary,” Amgen research chief David Reese said. Amgen is working with Adaptive Biotechnologies Corp.

Researchers in a recent paper published in the journal Nature said they had discovered several new, very potent, antibodies directed to an area where the virus attaches to human cells and to a region of the spike that has not attracted attention.

“To avoid development of resistance you want to target different sites,” study author and Columbia University professor David Ho told Reuters.

There are also questions about when in the course of the illness it might be best to employ these new weapons.

“Giving an antibody later on after infection might not be that helpful, said Florian Krammer, microbiology professor at New York’s Icahn School of Medicine. “Given early, they probably work well.”

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Eli Lilly starts late-stage study of coronavirus drug in nursing homes
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Published Mon, Aug 3 20206:52 AM EDT Updated Mon, Aug 3 20208:42 AM EDT

U.S. drugmaker Eli Lilly said on Monday it is beginning a late-stage trial to study whether one of its experimental Covid-19 antibody treatments can prevent the virus’ spread in residents and staff in U.S. nursing homes.

The phase 3 trial will test LY-CoV555, a treatment developed in partnership with Canadian biotech AbCellera, is expected to enroll up to 2,400 participants who live or work at a facility that have had a recently diagnosed case of Covid-19.

“Covid-19 has had a devastating impact on nursing home residents,” Lilly’s chief scientific officer Daniel Skovronsky said in a statement. “We’re working as fast as we can to create medicines that might stop the spread of the virus to these vulnerable individuals.”

Lilly is already testing the drug in hospitals to study whether it can work as a treatment in patients who have the disease. This trial will test whether it works prophylactically.

It is launching the phase 3 trial in partnership with several long-term care facility networks across the country as well as the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

Lilly said in order to speed the study it has created mobile research units including retrofitted recreational vehicles that can be deployed in response to outbreaks of the virus at nursing homes across the U.S.

LY-CoV555 belongs to a class of treatments known as monoclonal antibodies that are among the most widely used biotechnology medicines. Regeneron Pharmaceuticals and other drugmakers are testing similar treatments against Covid-19.

Last week Lilly told investors that LY-CoV555 had moved into mid-stage trials as a treatment and would start late stage-trials in the coming weeks. It expects efficacy data from the mid-stage trial in the fourth quarter.

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So we have the military involved, no liability for big-pharma if something goes wrong, and now this:


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Coronavirus vaccine could mean $15B 'windfall' for Pfizer: Report
Pfizer jointly developing drug with BioNTech

James Leggate
Published July 28

Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine development could result in a big payoff for the drugmaker.

The U.S. government has already put in an order for 100 million doses of an experimental COVID-19 vaccine being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech for $1.95 billion, with an option for 500 million more doses.

The vaccine is still pending FDA approval, but officials have given the review process “fast track” designation.

Based off the pricing precedent of just under $20, analysts with Bloomberg Intelligence calculated “a windfall of more than $15 billion revenue for Pfizer.”

“We believe this sets the top price for a vaccine, with lower prices elsewhere,” Sam Fazeli, a lead analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence, wrote in a note. “Need for repeated use would be the game-changer.”

Pfizer has said it’s testing a two-dose regimen for the experimental vaccine.

However, the nearly-$20 price will likely come down over time, assuming there are several equally effective options. Fazeli said in a Bloomberg podcast last week that potential vaccine prices have been negotiated as low as $4 per dose.

“I think $20 per dose sets a precedent for at-profit organizations,” Fazeli said on the podcast.

The coronavirus has sickened more than 16.5 million people and killed more than 655,000 worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University. That figure includes more than 148,000 deaths in the U.S., the most of any country.

Pfizer’s experimental vaccine has shown high levels of neutralizing antibody in various species of animals, according to the company. It began Phase 3 testing this week. The global study will include as many as 30,000 participants.

It’s “a major step forward in our progress toward providing a potential vaccine to help fight the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, and we look forward to generating additional data as the program progresses,” Kathrin U. Jansen, senior vice president and head of vaccine research and development at Pfizer, said in a statement Monday.

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I can't believe he's still hemming and hawing over this. We've know it was aerolized since Feb. Why is he still equivocating? Trying to stay relevant and in the news? Trying to undermine Trump? What is this man's true agenda?




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Fauci says he thinks there is ‘a degree’ of airborne spread of the coronavirus
Noah Higgins-Dunn
Mon, Aug 3 20202:09 PM EDT| Updated

Key Points

  • White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Monday that he thinks “there certainly is a degree of aerosolization” causing the coronavirus to spread, although the topic is still being studied.
  • In July, the WHO published new guidance that acknowledged it can’t rule out the possibility the coronavirus can be transmitted through air particles in closed spaces indoors, including in gyms and restaurants.
  • Fauci said it has become “much clearer” that someone is likely at greater risk if they’re in an indoor space where there’s less air circulation and “any degree of aerosolization.”

White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Monday that he thinks there is “a degree” of airborne spread of the coronavirus, although the role it plays is still being studied.

“I think that there certainly is a degree of aerosolization,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during an interview with the Journal of the American Medical Association. “But I’m going to take a step back and make sure that we learn the facts before we start talking about it.”

Health experts have said that the coronavirus is generally transmitted person to person through large respiratory droplets, often when someone sneezes or coughs. The World Health Organization first warned in March that such droplets could be kicked up into the air where they might become airborne and linger in certain environments.

In July, the WHO published new guidance that acknowledged it can’t rule out the possibility the coronavirus can be transmitted through air particles in closed spaces indoors, including in gyms and restaurants. They previously had warned that the virus may become airborne in certain environments, such as during “medical procedures that generate aerosols.”

The WHO acknowledged in its guidance that transmission in those environments could also have occurred through droplets and from surfaces.

Fauci, during the interview with JAMA, said it has become “much clearer” that someone is likely at greater risk if they’re in an indoor space where there’s less air circulation and “any degree of aerosolization.” Some experts who have studied aerosolization have indicated there are larger particles discharged when someone coughs or sneezes that might float in the air longer than previously thought, he said.

“We need to pay a little bit more attention now to the recirculation of air indoors, which tells you that mask-wearing indoors when you’re in a situation like that is something that is as important as wearing masks when you’re outside dealing with individuals who you don’t know where they came from or who they are,” Fauci said.

“It’s something we’re learning more and more about. We’ve got to make sure that we’re humble enough to accumulate new knowledge and use it as we get it,” he added.

Some scientists across the globe have previously urged the WHO and other health agencies to give more weight to the role of the airborne spread of Covid-19, calling for them to update their guidance.

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'Pathetic!': Trump accuses Birx of agreeing with Pelosi's criticism of pandemic response
Dylan Stableford
August 3, 2020

President Trump on Monday tweeted what appeared to be an attack on Dr. Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, for agreeing with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi over the administration’s approach to the pandemic.

“So Crazy Nancy Pelosi said horrible things about Dr. Deborah Birx, going after her because she was too positive on the very good job we are doing on combatting the China Virus, including Vaccines & Therapeutics,” Trump tweeted. “In order to counter Nancy, Deborah took the bait & hit us. Pathetic!”

It’s unclear who or what Trump considered “pathetic,” though the context suggests it was Birx for, in the president’s view, taking Pelosi’s “bait” and agreeing with the speaker.

In a closed-door meeting with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin last week, Pelosi reportedly accused Birx of spreading disinformation about the coronavirus crisis, calling her the “worst” and adding that they were in “horrible hands” with her.

Pelosi repeated her criticism on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.

“I think the president is spreading disinformation about the virus, and she is his appointee,” Pelosi said. “So I don’t have confidence there, no.”

On CNN’s “State of the Union,” Birx dismissed the suggestion that she has been painting too optimistic a view of the pandemic.

She also took issue with a New York Times article that characterized her as the “chief evangelist for the idea that the threat from the virus was fading.”

“I have never been called Pollyanna-ish or nonscientific or non-data-driven,” Birx said. “And I will stake my 40-year career on those fundamental principles of utilizing data to really implement better programs to save more lives.”

In the same interview, Birx said the country is in a “new phase” of the pandemic, and warned that projections showing more than 300,000 American deaths from the coronavirus by the end of the year could become reality. There have been more than 4.6 million confirmed COVID-19 cases in the United States, according to Johns Hopkins University, and over 154,000 deaths.

“What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread,” Birx said. “Anything is possible if we don’t have all — you know, public health is called public health because it has a public component. And we need all of the public to help us get control of this virus.”

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COVID deaths can be up to 4 weeks after a positive test so it's not surprising they're still spiking even if cases are declining. We should see a decline starting in a week or two.


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COVID-19 deaths spike 27% even as new cases decline
Christopher Wilson
August 3, 2020

Even as the U.S. has seen moderate declines in new COVID-19 cases, the nation experienced a sharp rise in deaths related to the disease last week, according to a new government document reviewed by Yahoo News.

A senior leadership brief dated July 31 said there were 7,631 deaths in the week ranging from July 24 to July 30, a 27.1 percent increase over the previous seven days. The document, which was prepared by the Departments of Health and Human Services and Homeland Security, cited a case fatality rate of 1.7 percent over the past seven days.

Death rates vary among sources due to differences in reporting, as some states count deaths that happened weeks ago but were just confirmed as COVID-related. More than 150,000 people in the U.S. have died of COVID-19.

There were 449,482 new cases over the seven days prior to the document’s July 31 publication, a 4.1 percent decrease from the previous week. In all, the case count was moving up in nine states and territories, has plateaued in 20 and was in a downward trajectory in 27.

The positive test rate nationwide over the past week was 8.1 percent, a slight dip below the previous seven-day mark of 8.6 percent. Nearly a quarter of prioritized hospitals had more than 80 percent of their beds filled, which the CDC said had previously been consistent at 17 to 18 percent.

Deaths in the past week have been concentrated mainly in the South and in Western states, with a second CDC document showing deaths per 100,000 residents across much of Washington state, California, Arizona, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and the Carolinas.

The CDC now projects the death toll in the U.S. could hit 180,000 by Aug. 22. Dr. Deborah Birx, the Trump administration’s coronavirus coordinator, said “anything is possible” when asked about former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb’s prediction that virus deaths could top 300,000 by the end of the year.

Birx told CNN on Sunday that we have entered a “new phase” with the virus.

“I want to be very clear: What we’re seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread,” she said, adding, “So everybody who lives in a rural area, you are not immune.”

Birx’s latest warnings come amid increasing criticism for her support of President Trump, who has downplayed the threat of the virus.

“I think the president is spreading disinformation about the virus, and she is his appointee,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said of Birx Sunday on ABC News. “So I don’t have confidence there, no.”

A New York Times report last month described Birx as the “chief evangelist for the idea that the threat from the virus was fading” and who helped push a reopening plan that other experts say came too soon and led to a coronavirus resurgence in many parts of the country.

Even with the rise in deaths from COVID-19, the president has continued to push for schools to reopen in the fall and for states to reopen their economies.

But Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis President Neel Kashkari told CBS News on Sunday morning that a lockdown to slow the spread of the virus could be the quickest way to safely reboot the economy.

“If we were to lock down hard for a month or six weeks, we could get the case count down so that our testing and our contact tracing was actually enough to control it,” Kashkari said.

“If we don’t do that,” he added, “and we just have this raging virus spread throughout the country with flare-ups and local lockdowns for the next year or two, which is entirely possible, we’re going to see many, many more business bankruptcies.”

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Data map shows 60% of US counties are seeing an 'uncontrollable spread' of COVID-19 cases - as Dr Deborah Birx warns infections are 'extraordinarily widespread' in cities and rural areas

Emily Crane
Published: 10:28 EDT, 3 August 2020 | Updated: 12:46 EDT, 3 August 2020

  • The data map shows that almost every state across the country has at least one county experiencing an 'epidemic trend', or uncontrollable spread, of coronavirus cases
  • Of the 3,141 US counties, 1,918 - or 60% - are currently seeing an epidemic outbreak, according to the data
  • Every state has counties - 807 in total across the country - that are seeing spreading trends, which is an outbreak that could still be controlled if preventative measures are taken Arizona, Louisiana, Tennessee,
  • Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, South Carolina, North Carolina, Delaware and Maryland are only seeing epidemic or spreading trends
  • The only three states that do not have an uncontrollable spread are in the far Northeast, including Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont
  • Currently, the number of infections across the country has surpassed 4.66 million and more than 154,000 Americans have died from the virus
  • Dr Deborah Birx, head of the White House coronavirus task force, warned on Sunday that the US had reached a new phase of the outbreak with infections 'extraordinarily widespread' in rural areas as well as cities

Sixty per cent of counties across the United States are now seeing an uncontrollable spread of COVID-19 infections, a data map shows - as Dr Deborah Birx warns cases are 'extraordinarily widespread' across the country.

The data map, which was compiled by spatial analytics company Esri, shows that almost every state across the country has at least one county experiencing an 'epidemic trend', or uncontrollable spread, of coronavirus cases.

Of the 3,141 US counties, 1,918 are currently experiencing an epidemic outbreak, according to the data.

Every state has counties - 807 in total across the country - that are seeing spreading trends, which is an outbreak that could still be controlled if preventative measures are taken.

Arizona, Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, South Carolina, North Carolina, Delaware and Maryland are only seeing epidemic or spreading trends, the data shows.

The only three states that do not have an uncontrollable spread are in the far Northeast, including Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont.

Currently, the number of infections across the country has surpassed 4.66 million and more than 154,000 Americans have died from the virus.

Dr Deborah Birx, the head of the White House coronavirus task force, warned on Sunday that the US had reached a new phase of the outbreak with infections 'extraordinarily widespread' in rural areas as well as cities.

As coronavirus cases continue to surge across much of the country, public health officials are trying to work with governors to tailor responses for each state.

'We are in a new phase,' Birx told CNN's State of the Union. 'What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread.'

Birx warned that people living in multi-generational households in an area that is experiencing an outbreak should wear masks inside the home to protect the elderly or those with underlying conditions.

She said federal officials have been working on individual reports for each state by examining community trends and hospital records.

'Each of these responses have to be dramatically tailored,' she said, adding that what she had witnessed visiting 14 states over the last three weeks gave her cause of concern.

'As I traveled around the country, I saw all of America moving,' Birx said. 'If you have chosen to go on vacation into a hot spot, you really need to come back and protect those with comorbidities and assume you're infected.'

Meanwhile, Admiral Brett Giroir, an assistant Health and Human Services secretary, continued to stress the importance of wearing masks.

'If we don't do that, and if we don't limit the indoor crowded spaces, the virus will continue to run,' he told NBC's Meet the Press.

'We are very concerned and this is a very serious point.'

'That's why we're going to all the states, we're on local radio, we give specific instructions to every governor by county, what they need to do when we start - when those counties start tipping yellow, because that's the time when you have to stamp it down.'

The US recorded nearly 49,000 new infections on Sunday, which is down considerably from the daily average 60,000 over the past few weeks.

The lower count was due, in part, to Texas not reporting cases due to system upgrades. The state is due to release the figures on Monday.

The number of cases has been trending downwards after reaching daily peaks in mid-July in mostly Sunbelt states including Texas, Arizona, California and Florida.

While daily cases in those hotspot states are showing signs of a decline, deaths appear to be increasing.

Even though deaths are rising across the US, they remain well below levels seen in April when an average of 2,000 people a day were dying from the virus.

Health experts have indicated the death toll may not be as bad this time around possibly because a large share of the current cases are younger people, who are less likely to die, and because of advances in treatment and knowledge of the virus.

Deaths are a lagging indicator and can continue to rise weeks after new infections drop. A coronavirus death, when it occurs, typically comes several weeks after a person is first infected.

The University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation predicted in March that the pandemic could kill more than 81,000 people by July.

In its latest statement in mid-July, the IHME said its model now projects the death toll at more than 224,000 by November 1.

It said many fatalities could be avoided by preventative measures such as masks and social distancing.

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Mississippi On Track To Become No. 1 State For New Coronavirus Cases Per Capita
Ari Shapiro, Maureen Pao
August 3, 20206:51 PM ET

Mississippi is heading for a title that no state would want: It is on track to overtake Florida to become the No. 1 state for new coronavirus infections per capita, according to researchers at Harvard.

The state already faces high levels of diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and obesity.

As a result, the challenges specific to the coronavirus pandemic are "layered on top of our existing challenges," says Dr. LouAnn Woodward, who is the top executive at the University of Mississippi Medical Center.

By multiple measures, the coronavirus situation in the state will continue to worsen, Woodward tells All Things Considered.

Most of the state's major hospitals have had challenges with capacity, particularly ICU capacity, in recent weeks, says Woodward, who is also dean of the University of Mississippi's medical school and an emergency medicine doctor.

As of July 31, only 17% of the state's 904 ICU beds were available, according to the state health department.

She supports a statewide mask mandate. Mississippi's governor has imposed certain mask requirements on 37 of Mississippi's 82 counties but has not implemented a statewide mandate.

Here are excerpts from the full interview.

When you say this is challenging for hospitals and it's going to get worse, what does that actually look like in the ICU?

So our ICUs [at the hospital] are full. I mean, that is the bottom line. We have been full for several weeks. When other hospitals around the state call us for help, we're unable to take their patients. We've had to assist a number of times in having patients transferred actually out of state.

The patients with COVID are staying typically longer than many of our critical care patients, so they are tying up beds for a longer period of time. As the time goes on, we're also seeing the fatigue that our own, particularly critical care teams, but also emergency department teams and our COVID units, are experiencing. And part of that challenge is we don't know the endpoint. ...

We know this is not forever. We know that there is a term limit on our acute dealings with this virus in this pandemic. But it is unknown at this point. And so that adds to the fatigue and to the concern that I have for our staff.

Do you feel like state officials are your partners in this? There is no statewide mask requirement. Restaurants and bars are open. Does it feel like politicians in the state are listening to you when you say how dire the situation is?

It is very difficult because as a group of citizens, in Mississippi, there is a lot of value that is placed on the individual's ability to make decisions about their own life. The citizens in Mississippi very much value that freedom to make their own decisions and not be told what to do based on hot spots and based on numbers identified throughout the state. The governor is practically on a daily basis adding new counties to the mask mandate as we have an increase of cases in particular counties. And I wish that he would proceed to a statewide mask mandate.

But there are a lot of citizens ... that would not support that. So our state officials are in a pickle, honestly, because they are in a bind between what the medical profession is telling them and what they know would be the opinion of a lot of the people in the state of Mississippi who would prefer to not be told, but prefer to wear the mask if they feel that they should.

Speaking from a medical standpoint, if you look at the data, what we have been doing has not changed the trajectory of our number of hospitalizations, the number of new cases, etc. We need to do something different.

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