BRKG Main Campus Protest thread... Spreading to more campuses AND BEYOND post #816

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Dash

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@davidmarcus

Went to UCLA this afternoon to talk to people peacefully. Few interesting takeaways:

1) Most of them openly say they support Hamas, a designated terrorist organization;

2) They say 10/7 atrocities, rapes, murders, didn’t happen. The official line is “even the NYT debunked it!”;

3) 10/7 was justified. It was resistance;

4) 100% of the people we spoke to had the exact same narrative and MO, trying to recenter the conversation to 1948, without knowing any of the details when challenged;

5) They have their own security and control access to their encampment;

6) We remained very calm, but they got really aggressive and angry;

7) When you approach people who clearly are junior to others, “handlers” show up very quickly to takeover;

8) Since many of them are truly ignorant about historical and present facts, when they know they’re going to embarrass themselves, they all say “read our 5 demands to divest, now I’m going to stop talking to you.”

More organized and orchestrated than I expected. Very sad to see so many young people in a higher education setting being manipulated and brainwashed and totally devoid of critical thinking.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1784401677749231863
View: https://twitter.com/davidmarcus/status/1784401677749231863?s=61
 
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Dash said:

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein arrested during anti-Israel protest at Washington University in St. Louis​

Nicholas McEntyre

Far-left Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was arrested during an anti-Israel protest at Washington University in St. Louis on Saturday — a day after she was confronted outside of Columbia University.

The physician-turned-activist and politician was among the more than 80 people arrested after the large group refused to leave the private university’s campus, according to the St. Louis Dispatch.

Footage posted to Stein’s X account showed police detaining and escorting the 73-year-old pol away from the protest.

Stein’s Campaign Manager Jason Call and Deputy Campaign Manager Kelly Merrill-Caye were also arrested.

“We’re standing here with the students at WashU, standing up for our Constitutional rights, standing up for the American people who want to end this genocide now,” Stein said.


Other posts claimed Stein was “holding the line with students” before police “used force against” her and other protesters.

“Jill and others were attempting to de-escalate with police before they began arresting people,” Stein’s X account said.

“It’s shameful that university administrations are condoning the use of force against their own students who are simply calling for peace, human rights, and an end to a genocide that the American people abhor.”

The protests were demanding an end to the war in Gaza and calling on the university to cut all ties with Boeing Co., according to the outlet.

“It quickly became clear through the words and actions of this group that they did not have good intentions on our campus and that this demonstration had the potential to get out of control and become dangerous,” the statement from the school read. “All will face charges of trespassing and some may also be charged with resisting arrest and assault, including for injuries to police officers.”

“We are firmly committed to free expression and allow ample opportunity for voices to be heard on our campus. However, we expect everyone to respect our policies and we will take swift action to enforce them to their fullest extent.”

Stein’s arrest comes a day after she was confronted by Jewish protestersoutside the Columbia University gates Friday morning, who ripped her as being “in the minority” and representing “the 1%” of Jews in opposition to Israel’s war against Hamas.

A physician and Harvard graduate, Stein, 73, sought the Green Party presidential nomination in 2012 and 2016.

She announced her 2024 bid on X last November, citing ending the “genocide in Gaza” as one of her top priorities.

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein arrested during anti-Israel protest at Washington University in St. Louis
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Considering the "glide path" this mess is on, if the Green Party doesn't get on the record to distance themselves from this their marginalization is only going to increase. And if they double down that will pin them to which flock they really belong.
 
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Dash said:
@davidmarcus

Went to UCLA this afternoon to talk to people peacefully. Few interesting takeaways:

1) Most of them openly say they support Hamas, a designated terrorist organization;

2) They say 10/7 atrocities, rapes, murders, didn’t happen. The official line is “even the NYT debunked it!”;

3) 10/7 was justified. It was resistance;

4) 100% of the people we spoke to had the exact same narrative and MO, trying to recenter the conversation to 1948, without knowing any of the details when challenged;

5) They have their own security and control access to their encampment;

6) We remained very calm, but they got really aggressive and angry;

7) When you approach people who clearly are junior to others, “handlers” show up very quickly to takeover;

8) Since many of them are truly ignorant about historical and present facts, when they know they’re going to embarrass themselves, they all say “read our 5 demands to divest, now I’m going to stop talking to you.”

More organized and orchestrated than I expected. Very sad to see so many young people in a higher education setting being manipulated and brainwashed and totally devoid of critical thinking.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1784401677749231863
View: https://twitter.com/davidmarcus/status/1784401677749231863?s=61
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Hummmm.....Anyone happen to see Sulla trailing a scribe taking notes wandering around the quad?
 
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Somebody(s) failed that whole "actions have consequences" part of the"how to be in a riot" course:

hotair.com

Pro-Hamas Protesters Seek Amnesty, Pardons to Protect Careers

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Pro-Hamas Protesters Seek Amnesty, Pardons to Protect Careers​

JAZZ SHAW 8:30 AM | April 28, 2024
AP Photo/Richard Vogel

Administrators at Columbia University in New York and a few (though far from all) other colleges have finally heeded the calls for common sense and begun tearing down the pro-Hamas protest tent cities and having the rioters arrested. This welcome change was long overdue and much more remains to be done. (For one thing, they need to start arresting the faculty members who joined the protests.) Some of the students who were arrested are now waking up to a harsh bit of reality, however. Their actions have consequences that can follow them long after they finish their time on campus. With that in mind, some of them have a new set of demands. They are calling for amnesty and the erasure of their arrest records and student records revealing that they have been suspended. Will the congregation join me in a spirited cry of "Boo Hoo?" (Associated Press)

Maryam Alwan figured the worst was over after New York City police in riot gear arrested her and other protesters on the Columbia University campus, loaded them onto buses and held them in custody for hours.
But the next evening, the college junior received an email from the university. Alwan and other students were being suspended after their arrests at the “ Gaza Solidarity Encampment,” a tactic colleges across the country have deployed to calm growing campus protests against the Israel-Hamas war.
The students’ plight has become a central part of protests, with students and a growing number of faculty demanding their amnesty. At issue is whether universities and law enforcement will clear the charges and withhold other consequences, or whether the suspensions and legal records will follow students into their adult lives.
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As noted above, the students are fearful that their arrest records and suspensions will "follow them into their adult lives." Based on their recent actions, I realize that we're not dealing with the fastest set of tractors on the farm here, but I have a news flash for these rioters. Nearly every one of you is at least 18 years old and some of the juniors and seniors are in their twenties. You are already in your "adult life," despite the fact that you're not acting in a very mature fashion.

For what it's worth, you may not be learning very much at college because you're missing so many classes, but this could turn out to be one of the more educational moments of your young lives. Everyone's actions have consequences for better or worse. If you decide to tip back a few drinks and get behind the wheel of your vehicle, you may wind up with a DUI on your record or potentially something far worse. If you knowingly decide to violate the law in any fashion, the consequences of your actions can and likely will follow you around for a long time to come.

As to the specific actions of these rioters, how this matter is handled going forward should depend entirely on the severity of their crimes while participating. Those who simply showed up and joined in some chanting and then dispersed when ordered to do so were probably not arrested. If they don't turn into repeat offenders, perhaps their suspensions could be cleansed from their record after an appropriate period of time. Those who erected structures in restricted areas or - in the most serious cases - physically assaulted law enforcement officers should be shown no such sympathy. If they are willing to do such things as young adults, potential future employers, and others should be able to learn that in advance. Clear demonstrations of antisemitism should be made known as well, every bit as much as evidence of potentially violent discrimination against any group.

The students at Columbia appear to be among the worst of the lot. As of this morning, their encampments are still in place and the university is still "negotiating" with them. This is precisely the type of "education" that they shouldn't be receiving. The school is teaching them that they can get away with violating the law without consequences under the guise of free speech. All freedoms have limitations when they begin adversely affecting others. It's a harsh lesson, but it's one that these rioters need to be taught.
 
Knoxville's Joker

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WOS said:
Somebody(s) failed that whole "actions have consequences" part of the"how to be in a riot" course:

hotair.com

Pro-Hamas Protesters Seek Amnesty, Pardons to Protect Careers

hotair.com hotair.com

Pro-Hamas Protesters Seek Amnesty, Pardons to Protect Careers​

JAZZ SHAW 8:30 AM | April 28, 2024
AP Photo/Richard Vogel

Administrators at Columbia University in New York and a few (though far from all) other colleges have finally heeded the calls for common sense and begun tearing down the pro-Hamas protest tent cities and having the rioters arrested. This welcome change was long overdue and much more remains to be done. (For one thing, they need to start arresting the faculty members who joined the protests.) Some of the students who were arrested are now waking up to a harsh bit of reality, however. Their actions have consequences that can follow them long after they finish their time on campus. With that in mind, some of them have a new set of demands. They are calling for amnesty and the erasure of their arrest records and student records revealing that they have been suspended. Will the congregation join me in a spirited cry of "Boo Hoo?" (Associated Press)


As noted above, the students are fearful that their arrest records and suspensions will "follow them into their adult lives." Based on their recent actions, I realize that we're not dealing with the fastest set of tractors on the farm here, but I have a news flash for these rioters. Nearly every one of you is at least 18 years old and some of the juniors and seniors are in their twenties. You are already in your "adult life," despite the fact that you're not acting in a very mature fashion.

For what it's worth, you may not be learning very much at college because you're missing so many classes, but this could turn out to be one of the more educational moments of your young lives. Everyone's actions have consequences for better or worse. If you decide to tip back a few drinks and get behind the wheel of your vehicle, you may wind up with a DUI on your record or potentially something far worse. If you knowingly decide to violate the law in any fashion, the consequences of your actions can and likely will follow you around for a long time to come.

As to the specific actions of these rioters, how this matter is handled going forward should depend entirely on the severity of their crimes while participating. Those who simply showed up and joined in some chanting and then dispersed when ordered to do so were probably not arrested. If they don't turn into repeat offenders, perhaps their suspensions could be cleansed from their record after an appropriate period of time. Those who erected structures in restricted areas or - in the most serious cases - physically assaulted law enforcement officers should be shown no such sympathy. If they are willing to do such things as young adults, potential future employers, and others should be able to learn that in advance. Clear demonstrations of antisemitism should be made known as well, every bit as much as evidence of potentially violent discrimination against any group.

The students at Columbia appear to be among the worst of the lot. As of this morning, their encampments are still in place and the university is still "negotiating" with them. This is precisely the type of "education" that they shouldn't be receiving. The school is teaching them that they can get away with violating the law without consequences under the guise of free speech. All freedoms have limitations when they begin adversely affecting others. It's a harsh lesson, but it's one that these rioters need to be taught.
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Honestly if we want this to end the response needs to be heavy handed. Lifetime university and student loan bans, and if they took any loans, they still have to pay them back, even though no degree, and are exempt from any loan amnesty programs.

But we really, really, really, need a repeat of kent state. A reminder that violent riots from escalated protests have deadly consequences. And there have already been calls for Biden to dispatch national guard units to quell the university riots. So this is just a matter of time. Though this time the kiddos are too dumb so it won't be just one university that this happens at, it will take several to drive the point home I fear.
 
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Knoxville's Joker said:
Honestly if we want this to end the response needs to be heavy handed. Lifetime university and student loan bans, and if they took any loans, they still have to pay them back, even though no degree, and are exempt from any loan amnesty programs.

But we really, really, really, need a repeat of kent state. A reminder that violent riots from escalated protests have deadly consequences. And there have already been calls for Biden to dispatch national guard units to quell the university riots. So this is just a matter of time. Though this time the kiddos are too dumb so it won't be just one university that this happens at, it will take several to drive the point home I fear.
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Careful what you ask for...A repeat of Kent State would play into the Dems efforts to create chaos. It would result in nationwide rioting that will make 2020s uprising look like a picnic in the park....
 
Meemur

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et2 said:
The right never fought them back. I bet that ends in 2024.
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It needs to, but without starting Civil War 2. I like that the frat brothers got rid of the tents. More young people need to step up like that. No shooting. They just tossed those tents in the trash.

The rank and file are cowards, as are a lot of the paid leaders. Shoot the leaders if anyone gets shot. Better for now: round them up and process them at the police station. Immediately deport illegals. Toss anyone with an outstanding warrant into the klink, and let the rest go with a fine or a notice to appear, depending.
 
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vector7 said:
VIDEO: A REAL interview we had at NYU:

QUESTION: "Why are you protesting?"

PROTESTER #1: "I don't know. I'm pretty sure there's something about Israel [turns to other person] Why are we protesting?"

PROTESTER #2: "I wish I was more educated."

PROTESTER #1: "I'm not either."

The voting age now needs to be raised to 25.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783155521723207733
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Gee, maybe if they spent more time studying, and less time protesting and going to meetings about things they know nothing, they'd get a bit more "educated". Morons.

Summerthyme
 
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Dash said:
Contra Declinationem
@contradecline

I thought Harvard was supposed to have the "best and the brightest" college students in America. Wonder why the sprinklers went off in the middle of the night...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783477332956623130
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Hmmm.... the landscaper and groundskeepers... who probably only have a 2 year degree or a tech school certificate in something useful... understand how to set sprinkler timers. LOL!

I can see a whole lot of "monkey wrenching" happening as the divide between urban/rural and producers/consumers widens exponentially.

Summerthyme
 
greysage

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Student protesters demand UVM, Middlebury College cut ties with Israel


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Student protesters demand UVM, Middlebury College cut ties with Israel

Some college students in Vermont are joining their peers across the country in protest and demanding their schools' cut ties to Israel.
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Video at link, 3m4s

By Calvin Cutler

Published: Apr. 29, 2024 at 12:23 PM EDT|Updated: 29 minutes ago

BURLINGTON, Vt. (WCAX) - Some college students in Vermont are joining their peers across the country in protest. Students at the University of Vermont and Middlebury College have set up encampments to protest the schools’ ties to Israel. And they have a list of demands for administrators.
Some UVM students spent the night in tents.
Monday morning was a relatively calm scene with students outside the school’s Davis Center. Students were working on their laptops, painting protest signs and bringing in more tents and supplies.
The tents are to demonstrate solidarity with Gaza, mirroring other college campuses across the nation where protests have been underway for days.
Students at the protest at the campus in Burlington declined to speak with us on camera Monday morning. They designated one person who introduced himself as James as their spokesperson. He did not want his face to appear on camera, but he outlined the protesters’ demands for the university. He said they want UVM to:
  • Disclose all financial investments from the school’s $800 million endowment.
  • Divest from Israeli companies and those involved in the occupation of Palestine.
  • Sever academic ties with Israeli institutions.
  • Cancel U.S. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield’s commencement speech and honorary degree.
  • Promise that students involved in the protest won’t be charged.
“Students are rising up in decentralized fashion to combat what we see as a humanitarian and moral crisis,” James said.
The protesters at UVM said they will stay as long as it takes for their demands to be met.
Sunday, police said the protesters were violating the school’s temporary structure policy.

Related Stories:​

Vermont college students set up encampments in solidarity with Gaza​

Dartmouth students react to campus protests across the country​


Leading up to these demonstrations, WCAX spoke with Jewish students at UVM who say they have experienced antisemitism on campus amid the war overseas.
In a statement, Matt Vogel, the executive director of UVM’s Jewish student organization Hillel, said, in part, that they are “...in ongoing communication with UVM police and administration about the concerns we’ve heard from Jewish students, parents and alumni. Every student, especially in the tense end of this semester, deserves the right to study and life in safety.”
Hillel is setting up flags outside their building in honor of the hostages taken on Oct. 7.
At Middlebury College, students have also issued a list of demands, including divestment, an academic and cultural boycott, and a direct affiliation with Palestinian institutions.

Copyright 2024 WCAX. All rights reserved.
 
Meemur

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They have a right to set up a table, pass out literature, and give speeches within the campus policies. Most college campuses allow these sorts of activities, within certain guidelines. They can't occupy the space overnight, for example. They also can't do anything that disturbs classes.

They do not have a right to set up tents, move in, and bother other students. That is trespassing and against most college rules. And if that is not spelled out in the student conduct code, it needs to be.
 
Cacheman

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Had to go into downtown Madison this morning and decided to drive by the UW Madison campus for a glimpse at their planned protest. Several hundred occupying Library Mall, one banner said 'Pro Trans stands with Palestine' and there was a lot of nasty chanting. Last Friday the Chancellor very publicly said camping will not be tolerated, tents are going up and those tents are exactly the same as at other protests, yep, a very organic protest. UW police standing at the perimeter and no city police that I saw. Now about those tents when evening comes, what will the Chancellor do?
 
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Dash

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@ShaiDavidai

Dear journalists,

Not sure if you're interested in tips at this point, but just so you know:

One of the main radical leaders of the illegal pro-Hamas encampment at @Columbia was suspended from campus 4 weeks ago for bringing in a terrorist for a "Resistance 101" teach-in. The suspension was never enforced. This leader's mom is Elizabeth Daughtrey, an officer at the
@StateDept.

We've got a big problem in the U.S., and the watchdogs have been asleep.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1784999562303684673
View: https://twitter.com/shaidavidai/status/1784999562303684673?s=57
 
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