CORONA Lung and kidney damage caused by COVID-19, not antiviral drug

Lung and kidney damage caused by COVID-19, not antiviral drug
CLAIM: Lungs filling with fluid and kidney failure are actually side effects of remdesivir, a treatment approved for COVID-19, not symptoms of the disease itself.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Critical COVID-19, not the drug remdesivir, has been known to cause fluid in the lungs and renal failure.

THE FACTS: Remarks made by a former chiropractor are circulating online, spreading false information about an antiviral medicine used to treat COVID-19.

Bryan Ardis falsely claims that COVID-19 is not killing millions of Americans, and that the deaths are actually being caused by the use of remdesivir to treat hospitalized patients. His inaccuracies about the drug have been widely shared in text and video posts on Twitter and Facebook.

Ardis has heavily criticized remdesivir on talk shows where he spreads falsehoods about the drug. Medical professionals who have studied the drug have dismissed Ardis’s claims, saying that the symptoms described are clear signs of critical COVID-19 and are not caused by remdesivir. Ardis could not immediately be reached for comment.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration first approved remdesivir -- distributed as Veklury by Gilead Sciences Inc. -- to treat COVID-19 in October 2020, citing randomized clinical trials showing that the drug reduced patients’ recovery times.
Dr. John Mellors, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, said the patients who got remdesivir in those trials showed no evidence of kidney damage compared with the group that didn’t get the drug.

Before even using the drug, patients must undergo kidney and liver tests to make sure it is safe for them, so experts would have noted if the drug was responsible for deaths like the posts online suggest.

Dr. Hana El Sahly helped conduct a randomized clinical trial that examined the role of remdesivir in treating COVID-19 in 2020. El Sahly said the study did not find the lung or kidney side effects that were described in the false posts.

“These are complications of critical COVID-19,” she said of the posts. “We did a study and examined remdesivir in a blinded way by using placebo control and randomization. These side effects did not occur,” she said.

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artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
I've seen plenty of MD's on the internet saying the same. They picked a chiropractor to make it seem like only non-experts were making this statement.

Remdesivir failed its clinical trial, didn't even complete it because too many patients were dying.

I'd have to look at the particular study from 2020 by Dr. Hana El Sahly to see what trick was played to get their favorable result.
 

robolast

Senior Member
Lung and kidney damage caused by COVID-19, not antiviral drug
CLAIM: Lungs filling with fluid and kidney failure are actually side effects of remdesivir, a treatment approved for COVID-19, not symptoms of the disease itself.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Critical COVID-19, not the drug remdesivir, has been known to cause fluid in the lungs and renal failure.

THE FACTS: Remarks made by a former chiropractor are circulating online, spreading false information about an antiviral medicine used to treat COVID-19.

Bryan Ardis falsely claims that COVID-19 is not killing millions of Americans, and that the deaths are actually being caused by the use of remdesivir to treat hospitalized patients. His inaccuracies about the drug have been widely shared in text and video posts on Twitter and Facebook.

Ardis has heavily criticized remdesivir on talk shows where he spreads falsehoods about the drug. Medical professionals who have studied the drug have dismissed Ardis’s claims, saying that the symptoms described are clear signs of critical COVID-19 and are not caused by remdesivir. Ardis could not immediately be reached for comment.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration first approved remdesivir -- distributed as Veklury by Gilead Sciences Inc. -- to treat COVID-19 in October 2020, citing randomized clinical trials showing that the drug reduced patients’ recovery times.
Dr. John Mellors, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, said the patients who got remdesivir in those trials showed no evidence of kidney damage compared with the group that didn’t get the drug.

Before even using the drug, patients must undergo kidney and liver tests to make sure it is safe for them, so experts would have noted if the drug was responsible for deaths like the posts online suggest.

Dr. Hana El Sahly helped conduct a randomized clinical trial that examined the role of remdesivir in treating COVID-19 in 2020. El Sahly said the study did not find the lung or kidney side effects that were described in the false posts.

“These are complications of critical COVID-19,” she said of the posts. “We did a study and examined remdesivir in a blinded way by using placebo control and randomization. These side effects did not occur,” she said.

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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
From what I read remdesivir was tested with 3 other drugs and the test had to be stopped because they all failed - why would they use the drug at all?
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
I keep hearing that remdesivir failed the clinical trial but no links....has anyone here actually seen the original evidence/study or just repeating what they have heard from someone else?
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
Will share once again. My experience with Remdesivir was like have a switch thrown: one minute I'm pretty damn sick, the next, fever is GONE and I'm clear headed. It was like Elf magic.
 
Hep C, Ebola,Marburg.
Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1. Ivermectin plays a role in several biological mechanisms, therefore it could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses. In vivo studies of animal models revealed a broad range of antiviral effects of ivermectin, however, clinical trials are necessary to appraise the potential efficacy of ivermectin in clinical setting.
ETA: Who the puck needs rundeathisnear?
 
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AlaskaSue

North to the Future
I don’t live in a heavily populated area…my lil burg had gas stations very early on put up signs statimg if you want to mask, ok. But if you don’t want to…ok.

FF I am pretty sure I had a very early case in Fl, early 2020. no one could figure what I had but I got thru. Have flown a lot of miles, no prob except the wait! (Side bar…did anyone else notice that when the airports filled again how silent were the concourses!? Everyone focused on phones….shudder).

To the point, I wasn’t sure how things were going with my health after all the events in my life past couple years - but due to recent events,I got blood work done. PTL, every single little thing is normal. Had an ER visit a couple days ago (ugh) but all ended up that I’m still going to run that second Spartan next year :) Life is incredibly stressful but God does carry me every day.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
From what I read remdesivir was tested with 3 other drugs and the test had to be stopped because they all failed - why would they use the drug at all?
You answered your own question, they are using it because it failed. You apparently do not understand what's going on, they do not want drugs that work, that keep us healthy, that keep us alive.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Might even pay for our poop to make fertilizer after taking horse medicine…hope they like apple flavored
So funny. Had a client that went to India, and returned with a gift box for my family of Ivermectin pills.
When I told the DW, she said no thanks, I kinda like the horse paste.
That makes 2 of us.
 
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