Baking Lost recipe

Cag3db1rd

Paranoid Heathen
When Weebit was a little girl, I had found here a recipe for quickbread mix that I could make in bulk and whip up any time I needed to perk up the mood of my family. I remember it required 12 cups of AP flour. I even had it taped to my kitchen cupboard door, I used it so much. Somehow I lost it along the way, having moved from that house and found Hubby is allergic to wheat. Weebit has grown up and moved out, but I wish to give her that recipe so she can use it at her own home. Also, I'd like to adapt it so that I can safely make it for Hubby and Son here using gf flour. I've spent a bit of time searching the board for the recipe to no avail. Does anyone happen to have that recipe and can share it?
 

moldy

Veteran Member
I may have that at home. Will look this evening. I think it may be in the "Make a Mix" cookbook
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
I found a link here to 3 recipes for quickbread:

Quick Mix #1
8 1/2 cups flour
4 tablespoons baking powder
1 tablespoon salt
2 teaspoons cream of tartar
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 1/2 cups dry milk
2 1/4 cups vegetable shortening

Combine dry ingredients. Blend well. Cut in shortening until mixture looks like coarse crumbs. Store in airtight containers for 10 to 12 weeks. Makes about 13 cups mix.

Quick Mix #2
10 cups flour
3/8 cup baking powder
1 tsp. cream of tartar
1 1/4 cups powdered milk
1 1/2 tbsp. salt
1/4 cup sugar
1 lb shortening

Mix all together and store in an airtight container. Use as you normally would use bisquick.


Quick Mix #3
5 pounds flour
3 tablespoons salt + 1 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup baking powder + 4 teaspoons baking powder
6 cups powdered milk
4 cups shortening

Mix together dry ingredients. Cut in shortening. Keep at room temperature.

Hope that helps!
 

Cag3db1rd

Paranoid Heathen
How many years ago do you think it was posted? That'll help in the search.
Possibly b4 2008. I moved into the old house in '07 whereI taped it up. I bought this house at the end of '09, where I lost it. It was in the era of Froit Loop.

Bbbuddy, tyvm, but I don't remember cream of tartar in the mix. I clearly remember 12 cups of flour. I will keep those recipes for Weebit, though. They could be useful.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
May I suggest that you replace the toxic vegetable oil with melted butter? I know, it will increase the cost (although vegetable oil isn't cheap these days!), but the flavor difference is huge, and the health benefits are as well.

Summerthyme
Would ghee work and would it have a longer shelf life than butter?
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Would ghee work and would it have a longer shelf life than butter?
I'm not sure...someone ought to try it! But since it's only added while you are making the bread, storabikity isn't a big problem. Unlike the "master mix" I make (essentially Bisquik)...I use butter instead of shortening, but I have to keep it in the fridge or freezer between uses.

Summerthyme
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
May I suggest that you replace the toxic vegetable oil with melted butter? I know, it will increase the cost (although vegetable oil isn't cheap these days!), but the flavor difference is huge, and the health benefits are as well.

Summerthyme
I used a version of this recipe (I think from the ORINGAL Hillbilly Housewife - I have a lot of these printed out in a binder), but my problem with it was the use of shortening.

Unfortunately, some research has shown that you CAN NOT use butter unless you add it when making bread (or pancakes, scones, or other stuff some of these recipes will do). That is because animal fats spoil, and olive oil will flavor (and can go rancid).

I found an old "recipe" for this type of homemade mix from the 1930s before shortening and transfats were a thing. Back then, housewives knew to "add butter" to the mix when using it. It's excellent if you have butter, but it's not so great if you do this for prepping or camping.

On the rare occasions now that I make something like this for a couple of days at an SCA camping event or something, I bring butter if possible or use shortening (I have some for specific recipes) because it is only a couple of meals anyway (and still a lot better than Bisquick, if made with organic white flour and homemade baking powder—that's the cream of tarter in the recipe, plus some baking soda).

Beef tallow or lard will have the same issues as butter. However, another trick is to use the recipes with butter (or beef tallow/lard) and keep the mix in the fridge. Use it within the month. For home baking, that works great, but it is not so wonderful for camping.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Gee would have a longer shelf life than butter. I might try that for camping, but I suspect it should be kept in the freezer, as I now see that Sumertyme does with regular butter. The advantage of having some ghee (clarified butter in older European recipes) is that you can fry pancakes and other meals requiring hotter oil.

I couldn't understand why his pan-fried things like potato pancakes or schnitzels were so greasy when Nightwolf took over the cooking (the two years I had had trouble getting downstairs). I knew he took a gourmet cooking class with his sister as a teenager.

When I asked him what he used to grease the pans, he said, "Oh, I just use butter. Yeah, I know the recipes say to clarify the butter, but I figured it was just a fancy extra step). I told him that making ghee or clarifying the butter (ghee is often cooked until it has a brown and nutty flavor; European clarified butter usually doesn't) makes it withstand the heat for pan frying. He was rather shocked and continued to use butter anyway. So, I stopped asking him for those dishes. He wouldn't even use some of our (decades' worth, probably) of seed oils we got before I knew better. I still use tiny bits of those (maybe a tablespoon or so a month) in case of emergencies. When they get too old, I will throw the remainder out.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Americans have a lot more access (especially in urban or suburban areas) to various choices regarding things like this. Ireland and Europe vary a lot. From the Germans who like their fresh, non-GMO foods, which is probably one reason despite their love of sausages and other treats, like the Danes (who by law, have to cook most "fast" food with butter, not seed oils) are healthier than the average Americans to rural Ireland, which might have some avocado oil in a tiny bottle for twenty dollars hidden somewhere, if you can find it at all. The internet has improved things, but many things are not affordable unless you don't use them much.

For several reasons, the last three years have had terrible Olive Oil shortages and price spikes. My housemate did stock up, but I finally had to tell her ONLY to buy extra virgin. She is very price-conscious and didn't see the point. I finally said, "It is better for me, and that is what I want to use." In practice, I use the store brand (which may be illegally mixed with other oils) to grease pans or cook with Extra Virgin for eating directly (like drizzled onto tomatoes). There are different thoughts on how much damage olive oil suffers when heated, but it is still probably better than seed oils.

I use the seed oils the two or three times a year I deep fry, or, as I said, in small amounts (one fluffy loaf of bread a month, or greasing pans that need a high-heat-tolerant oil). At least over here, they are not GMO.

Some things we used to be able to get, like Beef Tallow, went away about twenty years ago. When the generation they grew up with died off. My housemate is primarily vegetarian (she will eat fish, but I have allergies), so cooking or baking with lard/tallow is off the menu - she can taste it. If she can't taste it, she doesn't care; it isn't a moral thing with her. But she can; we've experimented. I haven't seen "light" olive oil in the shops for at least a decade. We did have some when it was a big fad to bake with in the US.

Also, beef tallow and lard are hard to get these days. I have made it at home, but they also flavor things in an unfortunate way. I suspect industrial products can be refined better.

Finally, I always keep a couple of large cans of supposedly non-trans fat shortening (like I believe) for emergencies. To get us through a crises while things sort themselves out - also on rare occasions to make pie crust - though I suck at that with either shortening or butter. I was horrified when I discovered Nightwolf was using my old 1950s recipe books to bake with but using the shortening option instead of butter. He said,"I'm just following the recipe," and I said, "That's because they used to think that butter was bad for you, and shortening was supposed to be better for you and cheaper." I told him that shortening was a prep, to be used only occasionally for unique things like his molasses cookies that didn't snap without it (he hated them with lard, I tried) or shipping lanes breaking down. We needed backup sources of oil until things sorted out.

Anyway, one thing I always say is to study how people lived and preserved food traditionally in your area. What works great in dry Arizona doesn't work in humid and wet Ireland.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
There is a wide variety of beef tallow available on Amazon. It's a bit expensive though
Yes, and it probably isn't on the new Irish Amazon site (hardly anything is). I couldn't get it through customs from the UK or the USA. It is still around, but with Nightwolf gone, it isn't worth trying to get any. My housemate won't eat anything cooked with it and gets sick if she smells meat cooking for too long. I'll stick to making beef bone broth in the oven.
 
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