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Long Covid: Personality Change Is Symptom of Mysterious Disease​


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‘The Rage Would Come Out of Nowhere’: Personality Change Has Emerged as a Symptom of Long Covid​

Some patients are experiencing symptoms long after their Covid infection – and for many of these people, it's changing how they interact with the world

One July day in 2020, Julie Fallon, a second-grade teacher from Massachusetts, found herself standing in a dumpster in her driveway, shaking and enraged. She doesn’t remember what had triggered her anger that summer afternoon, but recalls reaching for the nearest items and smashing them against the other contents. “I wasn’t really sure if it was real or a dream,” she tells Rolling Stone. “I felt as if I were watching someone else do these things.”
Something similar had happened a few weeks prior, when Fallon was filling out paperwork online, and struggled to figure out part of the form. “The rage would come out of nowhere,” she says. “I would go from zero to 100 in two seconds.” First she started hyperventilating. “Then, before I even had time to think,” she says, “I was watching myself pick up the laptop and slam it on the concrete counter with a force so strong it terrified me.”

Fallon’s path to the dumpster began on March 15th, 2020: the onset of her Covid-19 symptoms. She initially felt better after eight days of bedrest, but on March 31st, she began to experience an onslaught of neurological and psychiatric symptoms, including extreme fatigue and exhaustion so crippling she would almost pass out. “During this time my personality was flat,” she says. “I was apathetic and didn’t really have much emotion. Covid-19 had hijacked my brain.”
But a far more jarring shift soon followed, which caused the normally mild-mannered educator to lapse into bursts of explosive anger and rage. “It was shocking to me,” she says. “My whole life I’ve worked with children, and I’m patient as the day is long. And here I am smashing computers. Here I am in a dumpster, smashing things. And I don’t know why.”

During the time Fallon dealt with extreme frustration and rage, she largely kept to herself, self-isolating for months so she wouldn’t have to interact with anyone other than her husband, and their dog, Lido. “As a teacher, I’ve worked with students that have behaviors that can be explosive,” she explains. “And I remember saying to myself, ‘Why am I acting like my students? What’s wrong?’ That’s when I recognized that I was being really harsh with people. It was like my personality had changed.”
From the moment their initial symptoms set in, life for people with Long Covid is one never-ending adjustment period. The same physical and neurological symptoms and conditions that can linger (or even set in) after someone has supposedly “recovered” from Covid-19 have been referenced repeatedly in medical and general interest articles — think exhaustion, brain fog, and shortness-of-breath.

Yet more than 18 months into the pandemic, personality change — which was recently singled out as one of the most disruptive Long Covid symptoms in a survey of those who’ve experienced it — hasn’t become a topic of widespread discussion. Perhaps that’s because, for those living with it, Long Covid has itself been one massive mind****, as they’ve faced varying degrees of disbelief and gaslighting from medical professionals, as well as families and friends. And it doesn’t help that “personality change” means different things to different people — ranging from a dramatic transformation, to someone getting angry and frustrated more than usual. But this isn’t a conversation that can be put off any longer. For many people experiencing Long Covid, personality change isn’t hypothetical — it’s their reality.
“I want people to understand that our lives have been forever changed. We’re not OK,” one Long Covid patient tells Rolling Stone. “This is real. This happened to us, and there’s no magic pill to make it all go away.”

Starting in the spring of 2020, neuropsychiatrist Adam Kaplin, MD, PhD, began working as part of the Johns Hopkins Post-Acute COVID-19 Team, a multidisciplinary group of practitioners brought together to treat the impact of Covid-19 on the body and brain. “A number of people came out of the experience [of severe illness] with PTSD,” Kaplin tells Rolling Stone. “And when they went home, they were irritable and not their normal selves, and didn’t understand why they didn’t just bounce back to being the way they were before.”
Prior to Covid-19, Kaplin primarily treated patients with multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases who experienced depression, cognitive impairment, and other psychiatric consequences as a result of the activation of their immune system. In addition to telling him that their loved one is “no longer acting like themself,” patients’ spouses would often tell Kaplin that “this is not the person they married.” In these cases it’s not necessarily the illness directly causing this shift in temperament. “It’s not the virus that’s the problem — it’s the immune response to the virus that causes the trouble,” Kaplin says. “But my strong message would be that it’s not a personal weakness, you’re not crazy, and there really is a biology to this, in both directions.”
Although “personality change” may seem like an imprecise, colloquial way to describe what happens when someone’s character or temperament shifts, when it’s the result of an illness or chronic condition, it’s known as “medical personality change,” (MPC) and is an official diagnosis with its own billing code.

In a 2021 article published in the Journal of the Academy of Consultation-Liaison Psychiatry, the authors explain that patients with existing medical conditions may have MPC if they, inexplicably, no longer act like themselves; the diagnosis “is often characterized by bafflingly poor judgment and impairment in several aspects of a person’s life.”
As a neurologist specializing in cognitive disorders of the brain, Anna Nordvig, MD, has frequently seen these personality shifts in older adults with dementia, whom she has treated throughout her career. After noticing an increase in cognitive difficulties in patients who had previously been infected with the novel coronavirus, Nordvig co-founded the Post-COVID “Brain Fog” Clinic at the Columbia University Irving Medical Center and New York-Presbyterian Hospital in May 2020 (she and the clinic have since moved to Weill Cornell).

According to Nordvig, many of these personality changes — which she describes as “a temporary or prolonged tendency towards personality traits with which one was not previously identified” — are seen in neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, as well as traumatic brain injury. Additionally, she says, many chronic conditions can also cause a change in personality comparable with what Long Covid patients are experiencing, especially the low frustration tolerance that people with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) experience.

The third time Marjorie Roberts ended up in her local emergency room in Johns Creek, Georgia, she says it was the sickest she had ever been in her life. This was the summer of 2020, a few months after she contracted Covid-19.
“My 40-year-old daughter said to me, ‘I want my mom back,’” Roberts tells Rolling Stone. “I was so sick. She had never seen me at a point where I was helpless.”
Her daughter wasn’t only referring to Roberts’ physical condition, but also her drastic change in personality. “Before Covid-19, I was living my life like it was golden,” Roberts says. “I was always the person who lit up the room; always the person who was there to inspire and keep everybody laughing. I was just a joyful, happy spirited person.”
Now, 19 months after her Covid-19 infection — which resulted in spots on her liver, swollen lymph nodes in her lungs, and losing seven teeth — Roberts has regained her positive outlook (and helps others impacted by the pandemic do the same through her life-coaching business), but remains wary of interacting with other people. “I can’t do crowds anymore,” she says. “When I look at a crowd, I don’t see the actual people; what I see is Covid.”

Situations like Roberts’ offer insight into what may lead to personality change in people with Long Covid — including whether it involves specific changes to the brain, or is the result of a person’s lived experiences dealing with a highly traumatic illness during a pandemic. Nordvig says it’s probably both. “It is likely a combination of a primary neurological deficit, and a reaction to the stress, isolation, misunderstanding, and lack of social services out there — which is known as ‘lower frustration tolerance,’” she explains.
This may be another reason why the discussion on Long Covid and personality change is taking a while to get off the ground: Patients may not bring it up in order to avoid another round of gaslighting, and demands from employers and other people in their lives for “proof” that the condition exists. (For instance, many of those who contracted Covid-19 in spring 2020 were unable to access testing, and without evidence of a positive test, were denied care necessary for Long Covid.)
Roberts, for instance, is still traumatized by the gaslighting she experienced during the summer of 2020, when her Long Covid progressively got worse, while the rest of the country carried on as if everything was normal. “People were dying, but at the same time, others were partying,” she explains. “So when I heard people say ‘I want my life back, I want to go on vacation, I’ll send you a postcard,’ no — I don’t want your postcard. You don’t believe that I’m still sick.”

Roughly three months after his February 5th, 2021 Covid-19 diagnosis, Tony Marks returned to his full-time job as the director of a North Carolina-based software company. The first thing he noticed was his escalating reactions to the ringing of his office phone. Though he initially found the sound simply annoying, his frustration gradually built up to the point where it would completely set him off.
“I had co-workers peeping in the door saying, ‘Hey, are you OK?’ because it was totally not like me,” Marks tells Rolling Stone. “They hardly ever heard me talk, and now I’m sitting in a big office by myself and basically yelling at the phone.”
But the real turning point was when Marks asked one of his colleagues why everyone seemed to think he was perpetually in a bad mood — and to be honest with him. “She said, ‘I hate to tell you this, but it’s like you’re getting ruder as the days are going along. You’re short tempered,’” he recalls.
Later that day, when Marks told his wife about this conversation, she confirmed the observation about his change in temperament. “Nobody had said anything to me about it, and now the people that I trust and love the most are saying, ‘Yeah, man, you’re kind of losing it,’” he explains.
The reason this behavioral shift in Marks was so easily apparent was because it was such a departure from his pre-Covid personality. “Everybody would have considered me to be extremely calm, very laid back, very easy going — that guy that nothing affected,” Marks says. “I’ve always had that persona where I never stressed out over something. Can’t say that now.”

While there’s still a long way to go, thanks to researchers like Nordvig, we’re beginning to see what’s happening inside the brains of those with Long Covid. “In advanced imaging — especially in some of our studies — we see changes in blood flow, blood permeability, and brain metabolism that overlap with areas responsible for these areas of the personality,” Nordvig explains. “Neuropsychological testing is something we also send some patients for, to help diagnose the [personality] change. This is still under study.”
And given that Nordvig sees Long Covid personality change as likely being a combination of neurological issues and the mental health impact of long-term stressors, one cause shouldn’t be viewed as more “legitimate” than the other. “The thing is, it’s a false dichotomy, because the mind affects the brain, and the brain affects the mind,” Kaplin explains. “So saying that it’s both means that they’re interacting with one another.”
This interaction is something Fallon has experienced firsthand. Before she realized she was dealing with Long Covid, she sought neurological treatment for what she thought was post-concussion syndrome, and added a psychiatrist to her multidisciplinary medical team.

“At that point I was evaluated and diagnosed with PTSD, severe social anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, panic, and depression,” she explains. “I was presenting with the type of trauma experienced by war veterans.” It would take several months, but once Fallon was able to recognize and process her personality change, her persistent rage went away, and she felt like her pre-Covid self again.
Similarly, the turning point for Marks came when he was able to identify the change in his personality and adjust his behavior accordingly. He was also diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and started taking medication to help manage both conditions. “Now when the phone rings, I take some extra time before I answer it,” Marks says. “Is the medication helping me with some of that? I really can’t say. But I’m just trying to take the initiative to be aware of what’s going on, and to keep my attitude under control.”

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Teeja

On the Beach
With all the crap going on world-wide, it's a small wonder why more people aren't losing it. All you need to do to acquire a really bad attitude is pay attention to the news. Has nothing to do with COVID per se, but rather the modern screwed-up world we live in. I'm sure Long-Covid adds to the frustration, of course. But probably not the only cause.

Take time to enjoy life.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Beginning to understand what all those WD and Zombie movies were foreshadowing :eek:
..just really surprised to have found ROLLING STONES addressing it.

It's not uncommon for a person to develop schizo symptoms after a really bad case of the flu or a cold, especially if there's a genetic history of the disease in the family. What IS uncommon is to see so many people become schizo and all with the same strain of covid.

NOW my question is, how many of these long haul covid victims have been vaccinated, and when did these symptoms of rage first appear after the initial infection?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
With all the crap going on world-wide, it's a small wonder why more people aren't losing it. All you need to do to acquire a really bad attitude is pay attention to the news. Has nothing to do with COVID per se, but rather the modern screwed-up world we live in. I'm sure Long-Covid adds to the frustration, of course. But probably not the only cause.

Take time to enjoy life.

IF these people are lucky enough to get an MRI of their brains, like my best friend did, they will discover that the brain has changed post covid infection. She now experiences rage episodes and severe anxiety post infection. I witnessed one said rage episode while she was driving no less, note to sell never talk to her about covid ever again!

This is ONLY in some of the long haul victims, not all. It's like part of the frontal lobe died.

I know a fellow artist who no longer experiences empathy, she's a long hauler, went to the doctors they did an MRI and part of her frontal lobe has died.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
I found a good article about this from Naomi Wolfe. It appears that "long COVID" is most prevalent for those that took the vax, for the reasons she outlines.

Lipid Nanoparticles: Are They Subtly Changing Human Beings?​

Are Essential Human Qualities Being Destroyed by PEG-Coated Industrial Fats?​


 

hunybee

Veteran Member
I know some people don't believe that long COVID is real. I can't and won't waste my time and energy trying to prove it is. This is very different than having an illness and having a long recovery time.

I have had that for a few different illnesses. We had a real rough go with the swine flu when that went through 13 years ago. I almost didn't make it on that one also. I was pregnant with little (not so little anymore) inigo.

It took a long time to recover and symptoms lingered. We have had other organs affected from a virus that had nothing to do with the illness.

Long covid is much much different. It is unlike anything I've ever had, experienced, or seen in others. At first, it seems so random. One person is affected one way, and another person is affected in seemingly a completely different way. But over time patterns start to emerge. It will take a while to understand the patterns and how and why things happen one way and one group of people and another and another group.

Thankfully, I have not had any mental issues in regards personality changes or mental health issues once I got over covid. The brain fog took an ungodly amount of time to start getting better.

I am still having very lasting physical effects from it, and just when I think we're getting a handle on it, there seems to be a setback. I may have mentioned before that during covid, I had a rough go in more than one way. I have huge gaps of no memory, and what I do remember is for the most part pretty horrific. A lot of hallucinating both auditory and visual. Terrifying dreams that seemed very very real. Lucid flashes but not many, and most of those were in pain and agony. I tried to find positive and joy, but I would be lying if I said that everything is back to normal. Thankfully, as I said, I don't have the mental health issues that some do. For that I am very very grateful.

What makes all of everything about long covid so much worse is the gaslighting that is undeniably happening. So you are then deemed crazy or looking for attention if you don't fit some predetermined mold or go quietly into that night.

I know of a woman who is Young, very early twenties, and she had covid. I think it was roughly around the time that I did. A few months after she had gotten over it, she was still having some very bad problems, very much like me. She went from Doctor to doctor and was getting no help, so her family got her to a functional medicine doctor. She was actually finally starting to see some improvement and things were starting to get better for her. They had her on a lot of supplements completely changed everything and she was starting to see some healing. She went on a vacation out of the country, and forgot to take all of her supplements and medications.

She ended up having a complete and utter psychotic break while on vacation. And I don't mean she had a rough time. I mean it was of an unbelievable nature this psychotic break. So much so that the medical facility had never seen anything like it and didn't know what to do. They did get her back to the States, and after much time and effort was able to get things back on track again. But it is not a matter of simply just taking some zinc and everything's fine. I hope these people are able to find some relief and healing. I hope we all are.
 
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Teeja

On the Beach
I feel for anyone suffering from Long-COVID. I believe it's very real. The problem in all this is that it's very, very hard to prove that the cause of these mental breakdowns is COVID, Long-COVID, the vaccines or a plethora of other environmental or internal factors.

Anecdotal stories of individual situations are data-points to consider of course, but hardly proof of absolute causality.

Don't get me wrong - I have what I believe to be "long-COVID", so I'm not dismissing the symptoms -- I know all-to-well how frustrating it can be, especially when doctors don't even believe it's a real thing. I seem to have permanent lung damage from Covid as well. I'm just not certain that the mental breakdowns are caused by any of these conditions. I'm sure the frustration and suffering due to Long-COVID adds to the mental problems, but again, it's extremely hard to prove it's the primary cause.

I wish it was that simple.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I know some people don't believe that long COVID is real. I can't and won't waste my time and energy trying to prove it is. This is very different than having an illness and having a long recovery time.

I have had that for a few different illnesses. We had a real rough go with the swine flu when that went through 13 years ago. I almost didn't make it on that one also. I was pregnant with little (not so little anymore) inigo.

It took a long time to recover and symptoms lingered. We have had other organs affected from a virus that had nothing to do with the illness.

Long covid is much much different. It is unlike anything I've ever had, experienced, or seen in others. At first, it seems so random. One person is affected one way, and another person is affected in seemingly a completely different way. But over time patterns start to emerge. It will take a while to understand the patterns and how and why things happen one way and one group of people and another and another group.

Thankfully, I have not had any mental issues in regards personality changes or mental health issues once I got over covid. The brain fog took an ungodly amount of time to start getting better.

I am still having very lasting physical effects from it, and just when I think we're getting a handle on it, there seems to be a setback. I may have mentioned before that during covid, I had a rough go in more than one way. I have huge gaps of no memory, and what I do remember is for the most part pretty horrific. A lot of hallucinating both auditory and visual. Terrifying dreams that seemed very very real. Lucid flashes but not many, and most of those were in pain and agony. I tried to find positive and joy, but I would be lying if I said that everything is back to normal. Thankfully, as I said, I don't have the mental health issues that some do. For that I am very very grateful.

What makes all of everything about long covid so much worse is the gaslighting that is undeniably happening. So you are then deemed crazy or looking for attention if you don't fit some predetermined mold or go quietly into that night.

I know of a woman who is Young, very early twenties, and she had covid. I think it was roughly around the time that I did. A few months after she had gotten over it, she was still having some very bad problems, very much like me. She went from Doctor to doctor and was getting no help, so her family got her to a functional medicine doctor. She was actually finally starting to see some improvement and things were starting to get better for her. They had her on a lot of supplements completely changed everything and she was starting to see some healing. She went on a vacation out of the country, and forgot to take all of her supplements and medications.

She ended up having a complete and utter psychotic break while on vacation. And I don't mean she had a rough time. I mean it was of an unbelievable nature this psychotic break. So much so that the medical facility had never seen anything like it and didn't know what to do. They did get her back to the States, and after much time and effort was able to get things back on track again. But it is not a matter of simply just taking some zinc and everything's fine. I hope these people are able to find some relief and healing. I hope we all are.
My thoughts are that since COVID can cause encephalitis, *of course* it can cause brain changes. And brain changes-depending on wh8ch part 9f the brain was affected- can cause major personality changes. Just ask relatives of stroke victims... or post concussion syndrome!

ANY symptom the vax can cause is also caused by the virus. So some of this could be mini strokes... clots in tiny blood vessels in the brain.

We had really mild cases of COVID... we hit it early with ivermectin and the other basic protocol, and it dropped our fever within 3 hours. It never did go into our lungs. But man... the brain fog was AWFUL! And while it's finally mostly easing, I feel like it's left me with ADD. I've always had incredible powers of concentration and the ability to multi task, and deal with multiple sources of input. (Drove my teachers crazy. One swore there was no way I could be paying attention to her lecture while reading a book under my desk. So one day, she decided to embarass me. She caught me reading, and demanded I tell her what she just said. So I did... repeating multiple sentences verbatim until she turned red and snapped, "that's enough!")

Now... it drives me crazy to try! Multiple sensory inputs make me want to scream. I can't seem to even be able to isolate one and ignore the others.

And then there's the distraction issue. This morning, I needed to start some bread dough. I headed to the loft to get some labels to put on jars of dehydrated peppers and onions that were in my way. Once I got out there, I discovered DS was sharpening a chainsaw in the shop, and had the two youngest girls. Long story short, four hours later, I started to work on bread again... only to discover I'd never gotten the labels!

And the fatigue... it's getting better... I can put in 3 days in a row now before crashing. But in June and July (had COVID in May), if I put in one busy day, I'd literally sleep for 36 hours straight! Literally couldn't keep my eyes open.

Since I'd just *finally* gotten back to being able to walk and work after years of severe spine issues, this is even more frustrating!

DS is experiencing some fatigue, etc, but fortunately nothing serious. It still frustrates his wife, who is used to him being on the go constantly.

I can't imagine how bad it must be for people who weren't in good shape and healthy to start with.

Summerthyme
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
My thoughts are that since COVID can cause encephalitis, *of course* it can cause brain changes. And brain changes-depending on wh8ch part 9f the brain was affected- can cause major personality changes. Just ask relatives of stroke victims... or post concussion syndrome!

ANY symptom the vax can cause is also caused by the virus. So some of this could be mini strokes... clots in tiny blood vessels in the brain.

We had really mild cases of COVID... we hit it early with ivermectin and the other basic protocol, and it dropped our fever within 3 hours. It never did go into our lungs. But man... the brain fog was AWFUL! And while it's finally mostly easing, I feel like it's left me with ADD. I've always had incredible powers of concentration and the ability to multi task, and deal with multiple sources of input. (Drove my teachers crazy. One swore there was no way I could be paying attention to her lecture while reading a book under my desk. So one day, she decided to embarass me. She caught me reading, and demanded I tell her what she just said. So I did... repeating multiple sentences verbatim until she turned red and snapped, "that's enough!")

Now... it drives me crazy to try! Multiple sensory inputs make me want to scream. I can't seem to even be able to isolate one and ignore the others.

And then there's the distraction issue. This morning, I needed to start some bread dough. I headed to the loft to get some labels to put on jars of dehydrated peppers and onions that were in my way. Once I got out there, I discovered DS was sharpening a chainsaw in the shop, and had the two youngest girls. Long story short, four hours later, I started to work on bread again... only to discover I'd never gotten the labels!

And the fatigue... it's getting better... I can put in 3 days in a row now before crashing. But in June and July (had COVID in May), if I put in one busy day, I'd literally sleep for 36 hours straight! Literally couldn't keep my eyes open.

Since I'd just *finally* gotten back to being able to walk and work after years of severe spine issues, this is even more frustrating!

DS is experiencing some fatigue, etc, but fortunately nothing serious. It still frustrates his wife, who is used to him being on the go constantly.

I can't imagine how bad it must be for people who weren't in good shape and healthy to start with.

Summerthyme
I realize, in my past postings and contrarian ways, I have had some bleed through here with personality changes. That's why I took a 30 day vacation from posting. We'll see how that works out as we go forward here. Getting personality changes under control to where one was before the 'vid' is trying at times.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
My thoughts are that since COVID can cause encephalitis, *of course* it can cause brain changes. And brain changes-depending on wh8ch part 9f the brain was affected- can cause major personality changes. Just ask relatives of stroke victims... or post concussion syndrome!

ANY symptom the vax can cause is also caused by the virus. So some of this could be mini strokes... clots in tiny blood vessels in the brain.

We had really mild cases of COVID... we hit it early with ivermectin and the other basic protocol, and it dropped our fever within 3 hours. It never did go into our lungs. But man... the brain fog was AWFUL! And while it's finally mostly easing, I feel like it's left me with ADD. I've always had incredible powers of concentration and the ability to multi task, and deal with multiple sources of input. (Drove my teachers crazy. One swore there was no way I could be paying attention to her lecture while reading a book under my desk. So one day, she decided to embarass me. She caught me reading, and demanded I tell her what she just said. So I did... repeating multiple sentences verbatim until she turned red and snapped, "that's enough!")

Now... it drives me crazy to try! Multiple sensory inputs make me want to scream. I can't seem to even be able to isolate one and ignore the others.

And then there's the distraction issue. This morning, I needed to start some bread dough. I headed to the loft to get some labels to put on jars of dehydrated peppers and onions that were in my way. Once I got out there, I discovered DS was sharpening a chainsaw in the shop, and had the two youngest girls. Long story short, four hours later, I started to work on bread again... only to discover I'd never gotten the labels!

And the fatigue... it's getting better... I can put in 3 days in a row now before crashing. But in June and July (had COVID in May), if I put in one busy day, I'd literally sleep for 36 hours straight! Literally couldn't keep my eyes open.

Since I'd just *finally* gotten back to being able to walk and work after years of severe spine issues, this is even more frustrating!

DS is experiencing some fatigue, etc, but fortunately nothing serious. It still frustrates his wife, who is used to him being on the go constantly.

I can't imagine how bad it must be for people who weren't in good shape and healthy to start with.

Summerthyme


I am so sorry
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
I haven't had any personality changes or permanent changes in how I think, but I did have the rain fog and inability to focus for many months. It took a REALLY long time for that to improve. The utter exhaustion took a really long time to improve as well. It is not perfect, but slowly getting better. It has wreaked havoc through me physically in countless ways.

I will say this:. Probiotics are one of the BIG keys. It is not hyperbole. It is not a joke. It may be the biggest factor in the illness itself and recovery.

I'm not talking eat a little bit of sauerkraut and yogurt and drink some kombucha.

Do those things, yes!

I am talking a massive effort and undertaking of extreme variety and volume. And fiber! Prebiotic soluble fiber is vital, but also the insoluble fiber as well. Both and increase in fiber and taking probiotics are most probably going to cause a good deal of stomach and digestive issues and bloating/gas. It will get worse before it gets better.

Push through! Stay the course.

The probiotics have to be taken for a long time.....months.

Cutting the sugar is also a huge necessity. I don't know why, but covid and sugar don't play well with each other, and recovery and function is severely hindered by sugar.

None of this is nice. None of this is fun. None of this is fair.

It is what it is. Do what you have to do to make it and keep going and thrive.
 

Tigerlily

Senior Member
IF these people are lucky enough to get an MRI of their brains, like my best friend did, they will discover that the brain has changed post covid infection. She now experiences rage episodes and severe anxiety post infection. I witnessed one said rage episode while she was driving no less, note to sell never talk to her about covid ever again!

This is ONLY in some of the long haul victims, not all. It's like part of the frontal lobe died.

I know a fellow artist who no longer experiences empathy, she's a long hauler, went to the doctors they did an MRI and part of her frontal lobe has died.

That is very interesting, Packy. Especially, when you consider what Bill Gates told the CIA in 2005:

PROJECT FUN VAX Bill Gates (VMat2 GOD Gene) Bill Gates Briefing to CIA (04/13/2005) Rumble video approx 9 minutes of Gates in presentation.

He says they want to destroy the "God gene" and turn "a fanatic into a normal person." That seems to be implemented, not just with the vaccines, but with Covid itself.
 
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momma_soapmaker

Disgusted
When hubs had Covid pneumonia and was so very sick, I did a ton of research and read a bunch of clinical trials. There's so much they still just don't know about Covid and the after effects.

I ran across an article that some people have been able to get relief from long Covid with Benadryl. It was discovered quite by accident after a long hauler took Benadryl for a cheese allergy, and felt remarkably better the next day. She experimented with the dosage and found it was indeed the Benadryl making the difference. She told her doctor about it, so others are using it too now.

Benadryl is a first generation H1 histamine receptor blocker. Pepcid AC is an H2 histamine receptor blocker that has been proven to help stop the inflammation caused by Covid (we witnessed this firsthand ourselves). It presents almost as a severe systemic allergic reaction, and I'm wondering if that's why the histamine blockers work.

I'm not a doctor, but I do a lot of research. Hopefully the information will help someone else.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
My thoughts are that since COVID can cause encephalitis, *of course* it can cause brain changes. And brain changes-depending on wh8ch part 9f the brain was affected- can cause major personality changes. Just ask relatives of stroke victims... or post concussion syndrome!

Well this would explain some of this then, the frontal lobe is actually one of the more fragile parts of the brain, second only to the brain stem.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
Another article on the brain changing effects of the COVID jab.

When the Vax Goes to Your Head​


The following video was excerpted from a session of the Stiftung Corona Ausschuss (Corona Investigative Committee) that was first live-streamed last July. During this segment, Dietrich Klinghardt MD discusses the brain-changing effects of the experimental mRNA treatment intended to mitigate the effects of infection with the Wuhan Coronavirus. He notes that those effects were an intended outcome, at least on the part of Pfizer.

 

2ndAmendican

Veteran Member
I'm unvaxxed, and got Covid in late January of this year. It damn near killed me. After suffering for about 7 days my wife and son called 911 and had me admitted to the hospital. (I did NOT want to be hospitalized, so it was my own damn fault.) Diagnosed with Covid obviously, and respiratory failure, and kidney failure. spent 6 days in the hospital, and for good or bad, was given Remdesivir for several days. Not sure how many. it's taken me forever to get my energy somewhat back to normal. I still feel like I'm running 75%. Brain fog is still with me. My memory sucks both long term and short term. My wife says I'm "different" now and I guess I am. Balance is definitely NOT 100%. I've been scared to ride my Harley Ultra Classic. Afraid the balance issue might cause me to be a danger to others and myself. It's affecting my job, my home life, etc... Again, I've NOT taken the jab. Your mileage may vary.
 

summerthyme

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I'm unvaxxed, and got Covid in late January of this year. It damn near killed me. After suffering for about 7 days my wife and son called 911 and had me admitted to the hospital. (I did NOT want to be hospitalized, so it was my own damn fault.) Diagnosed with Covid obviously, and respiratory failure, and kidney failure. spent 6 days in the hospital, and for good or bad, was given Remdesivir for several days. Not sure how many. it's taken me forever to get my energy somewhat back to normal. I still feel like I'm running 75%. Brain fog is still with me. My memory sucks both long term and short term. My wife says I'm "different" now and I guess I am. Balance is definitely NOT 100%. I've been scared to ride my Harley Ultra Classic. Afraid the balance issue might cause me to be a danger to others and myself. It's affecting my job, my home life, etc... Again, I've NOT taken the jab. Your mileage may vary.
I'm sorry... it's a vicious disease, and I don't think anyone knows why it hits some so hard.

Have you gotten physical therapy? I've said before that few people in our modern world have any idea how hard an illness can hit, and how long it can take to get to full strength... or that some never really get back to where they were.

Probiotics, a good supplement regimen (Basic vitamins, extra Vitamin D, possibly an adaptogen herb... a good naturopath or functional medicine doctor could be really useful here), judicious exercise program to slowly build strength and stamina can all help with full recovery. But it takes time, and if you were sick enough to be hospitalized for several days, your body has sustained a huge insult and damage at the cellular level which will take a lot of time to repair.

Summerthyme
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
IF these people are lucky enough to get an MRI of their brains, like my best friend did, they will discover that the brain has changed post covid infection. She now experiences rage episodes and severe anxiety post infection. I witnessed one said rage episode while she was driving no less, note to sell never talk to her about covid ever again!

This is ONLY in some of the long haul victims, not all. It's like part of the frontal lobe died.

I know a fellow artist who no longer experiences empathy, she's a long hauler, went to the doctors they did an MRI and part of her frontal lobe has died.
This is interesting because I have been wondering lately if there was something wrong with me. I wasn’t officially diagnosed with having covid, but hubby and I had something in December of 2019 that was miserable—and the symptoms just dragged on and on. I lost my sense of smell for weeks—hubby for months—and when I went to the doctor, they told me they didn’t know what I had. Covid hadn’t been recognized fully yet.

Since then, I have had major fits of rage—and over the most minor things—along with easily losing my train of thought and being unable to remember the most basic words and terms! I had a 12th grade reading snd vocabulary level by the 4th grade—it was my area of expertise—but the other day, my five year old had to remind me how to say the word “couch” because I couldn’t think of it. I have to stop frequently during conversations because I am constantly forgetting words and can no longer juggle more than one idea at a time.

I used to be able to have mental lists where I would accomplish tasks and mentally check them off, whether during conversation or doing physical tasks. Now, I feel as though my brain is filled with useless junk files like a computer. Every time the kids interrupt when I’m trying to get a thought out, it creates another ‘folder’ of ‘useless files,’ and they’re almost impossible to ‘clear,’ if that makes any sense. It seems like it’s just getting progressively worse—and I’m only 31!
 

mikeho78

Contributing Member
I can confirm OP and corroborate with similar symptoms as you all. I'm glad to see it and be aware of it so I can fix it. This might even need to be linked with the one who thought they might be getting poisoned
What upsets me most of all of this is not so much that it happened, but that it happened because of scientists and bureaucrats attempting to play God. I'm all for R&D, but a worldwide Tuskeegee² should see some heads roll so it doesn't happen again.
 

jward

passin' thru
I know some people don't believe that long COVID is real. I can't and won't waste my time and energy trying to prove it is. This is very different than having an illness and having a long recovery time.

I have had that for a few different illnesses. We had a real rough go with the swine flu when that went through 13 years ago. I almost didn't make it on that one also. I was pregnant with little (not so little anymore) inigo.

It took a long time to recover and symptoms lingered. We have had other organs affected from a virus that had nothing to do with the illness.

Long covid is much much different. It is unlike anything I've ever had, experienced, or seen in others. At first, it seems so random. One person is affected one way, and another person is affected in seemingly a completely different way. But over time patterns start to emerge. It will take a while to understand the patterns and how and why things happen one way and one group of people and another and another group.

Thankfully, I have not had any mental issues in regards personality changes or mental health issues once I got over covid. The brain fog took an ungodly amount of time to start getting better.

I am still having very lasting physical effects from it, and just when I think we're getting a handle on it, there seems to be a setback. I may have mentioned before that during covid, I had a rough go in more than one way. I have huge gaps of no memory, and what I do remember is for the most part pretty horrific. A lot of hallucinating both auditory and visual. Terrifying dreams that seemed very very real. Lucid flashes but not many, and most of those were in pain and agony. I tried to find positive and joy, but I would be lying if I said that everything is back to normal. Thankfully, as I said, I don't have the mental health issues that some do. For that I am very very grateful.

What makes all of everything about long covid so much worse is the gaslighting that is undeniably happening. So you are then deemed crazy or looking for attention if you don't fit some predetermined mold or go quietly into that night.

I know of a woman who is Young, very early twenties, and she had covid. I think it was roughly around the time that I did. A few months after she had gotten over it, she was still having some very bad problems, very much like me. She went from Doctor to doctor and was getting no help, so her family got her to a functional medicine doctor. She was actually finally starting to see some improvement and things were starting to get better for her. They had her on a lot of supplements completely changed everything and she was starting to see some healing. She went on a vacation out of the country, and forgot to take all of her supplements and medications.

She ended up having a complete and utter psychotic break while on vacation. And I don't mean she had a rough time. I mean it was of an unbelievable nature this psychotic break. So much so that the medical facility had never seen anything like it and didn't know what to do. They did get her back to the States, and after much time and effort was able to get things back on track again. But it is not a matter of simply just taking some zinc and everything's fine. I hope these people are able to find some relief and healing. I hope we all are.
Girl, you had me worried when you stopped yer text mid word! Thanks for coming back and editing it : )
..now that ya finished it I'm still a bit worried, but at least, it does sound like you're getting some relief finally?
 

jward

passin' thru
I hate to hear that JM- it would be easy to write that off as having young kids in these uncertain times, but....
Maybe the folks will have some more ideas for you.
This is interesting because I have been wondering lately if there was something wrong with me. I wasn’t officially diagnosed with having covid, but hubby and I had something in December of 2019 that was miserable—and the symptoms just dragged on and on. I lost my sense of smell for weeks—hubby for months—and when I went to the doctor, they told me they didn’t know what I had. Covid hadn’t been recognized fully yet.

Since then, I have had major fits of rage—and over the most minor things—along with easily losing my train of thought and being unable to remember the most basic words and terms! I had a 12th grade reading snd vocabulary level by the 4th grade—it was my area of expertise—but the other day, my five year old had to remind me how to say the word “couch” because I couldn’t think of it. I have to stop frequently during conversations because I am constantly forgetting words and can no longer juggle more than one idea at a time.

I used to be able to have mental lists where I would accomplish tasks and mentally check them off, whether during conversation or doing physical tasks. Now, I feel as though my brain is filled with useless junk files like a computer. Every time the kids interrupt when I’m trying to get a thought out, it creates another ‘folder’ of ‘useless files,’ and they’re almost impossible to ‘clear,’ if that makes any sense. It seems like it’s just getting progressively worse—and I’m only 31!
 

jward

passin' thru
For those who've got the lack of energy symptoms, please consider beef bone broth, preferably doctored liberally with garlic and onion, for building and purifying the blood.

I agree with the comments about anecdotal reports NORMALLY being suspect to down right harmful, but this is so new I think we have to do our own discovery work, and start here amassing the cases and analyzing them ourselves. : (

Thanks for everyone who is sharing them, and especially those of you who're able to tie it into actual lab work and such for us, so we can even better see the shape these things are taking.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
I feel for anyone suffering from Long-COVID. I believe it's very real. The problem in all this is that it's very, very hard to prove that the cause of these mental breakdowns is COVID, Long-COVID, the vaccines or a plethora of other environmental or internal factors.

Anecdotal stories of individual situations are data-points to consider of course, but hardly proof of absolute causality.

Don't get me wrong - I have what I believe to be "long-COVID", so I'm not dismissing the symptoms -- I know all-to-well how frustrating it can be, especially when doctors don't even believe it's a real thing. I seem to have permanent lung damage from Covid as well. I'm just not certain that the mental breakdowns are caused by any of these conditions. I'm sure the frustration and suffering due to Long-COVID adds to the mental problems, but again, it's extremely hard to prove it's the primary cause.

I wish it was that simple.
Part of the problem with ‘proving’ is Fauci and the demo media cabal has created a maginot line against Covid information. No medical researcher who would ever like to get government funding for any future research understands you don’t touch Covid.

Science has become part of the government self licking ice cream cone, researchers give activist deep staters what they want, deep staters in government feed scienetists government money for more research to ‘find’ what the government and the WEF Davos @$$hats want.

The demo’s have realized they can use OUR money to pay for OUR enslavement.

Being a democrat is no longer a political choice based on being liberal in philosophy its just evil.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I haven't had any personality changes or permanent changes in how I think, but I did have the rain fog and inability to focus for many months. It took a REALLY long time for that to improve. The utter exhaustion took a really long time to improve as well. It is not perfect, but slowly getting better. It has wreaked havoc through me physically in countless ways.

I will say this:. Probiotics are one of the BIG keys. It is not hyperbole. It is not a joke. It may be the biggest factor in the illness itself and recovery.

I'm not talking eat a little bit of sauerkraut and yogurt and drink some kombucha.

Do those things, yes!

I am talking a massive effort and undertaking of extreme variety and volume. And fiber! Prebiotic soluble fiber is vital, but also the insoluble fiber as well. Both and increase in fiber and taking probiotics are most probably going to cause a good deal of stomach and digestive issues and bloating/gas. It will get worse before it gets better.

Push through! Stay the course.

The probiotics have to be taken for a long time.....months.

Cutting the sugar is also a huge necessity. I don't know why, but covid and sugar don't play well with each other, and recovery and function is severely hindered by sugar.

None of this is nice. None of this is fun. None of this is fair.

It is what it is. Do what you have to do to make it and keep going and thrive.
I’m so sorry you’ve had such a hard time,
The last year has almost been like a blur, hasnt it. :(
 

wobble

Veteran Member

Long Covid: Personality Change Is Symptom of Mysterious Disease​


Elizabeth Yuko​



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‘The Rage Would Come Out of Nowhere’: Personality Change Has Emerged as a Symptom of Long Covid​

Some patients are experiencing symptoms long after their Covid infection – and for many of these people, it's changing how they interact with the world

One July day in 2020, Julie Fallon, a second-grade teacher from Massachusetts, found herself standing in a dumpster in her driveway, shaking and enraged. She doesn’t remember what had triggered her anger that summer afternoon, but recalls reaching for the nearest items and smashing them against the other contents. “I wasn’t really sure if it was real or a dream,” she tells Rolling Stone. “I felt as if I were watching someone else do these things.”
Something similar had happened a few weeks prior, when Fallon was filling out paperwork online, and struggled to figure out part of the form. “The rage would come out of nowhere,” she says. “I would go from zero to 100 in two seconds.” First she started hyperventilating. “Then, before I even had time to think,” she says, “I was watching myself pick up the laptop and slam it on the concrete counter with a force so strong it terrified me.”

Fallon’s path to the dumpster began on March 15th, 2020: the onset of her Covid-19 symptoms. She initially felt better after eight days of bedrest, but on March 31st, she began to experience an onslaught of neurological and psychiatric symptoms, including extreme fatigue and exhaustion so crippling she would almost pass out. “During this time my personality was flat,” she says. “I was apathetic and didn’t really have much emotion. Covid-19 had hijacked my brain.”
But a far more jarring shift soon followed, which caused the normally mild-mannered educator to lapse into bursts of explosive anger and rage. “It was shocking to me,” she says. “My whole life I’ve worked with children, and I’m patient as the day is long. And here I am smashing computers. Here I am in a dumpster, smashing things. And I don’t know why.”

During the time Fallon dealt with extreme frustration and rage, she largely kept to herself, self-isolating for months so she wouldn’t have to interact with anyone other than her husband, and their dog, Lido. “As a teacher, I’ve worked with students that have behaviors that can be explosive,” she explains. “And I remember saying to myself, ‘Why am I acting like my students? What’s wrong?’ That’s when I recognized that I was being really harsh with people. It was like my personality had changed.”
From the moment their initial symptoms set in, life for people with Long Covid is one never-ending adjustment period. The same physical and neurological symptoms and conditions that can linger (or even set in) after someone has supposedly “recovered” from Covid-19 have been referenced repeatedly in medical and general interest articles — think exhaustion, brain fog, and shortness-of-breath.

Yet more than 18 months into the pandemic, personality change — which was recently singled out as one of the most disruptive Long Covid symptoms in a survey of those who’ve experienced it — hasn’t become a topic of widespread discussion. Perhaps that’s because, for those living with it, Long Covid has itself been one massive mind****, as they’ve faced varying degrees of disbelief and gaslighting from medical professionals, as well as families and friends. And it doesn’t help that “personality change” means different things to different people — ranging from a dramatic transformation, to someone getting angry and frustrated more than usual. But this isn’t a conversation that can be put off any longer. For many people experiencing Long Covid, personality change isn’t hypothetical — it’s their reality.
“I want people to understand that our lives have been forever changed. We’re not OK,” one Long Covid patient tells Rolling Stone. “This is real. This happened to us, and there’s no magic pill to make it all go away.”

Starting in the spring of 2020, neuropsychiatrist Adam Kaplin, MD, PhD, began working as part of the Johns Hopkins Post-Acute COVID-19 Team, a multidisciplinary group of practitioners brought together to treat the impact of Covid-19 on the body and brain. “A number of people came out of the experience [of severe illness] with PTSD,” Kaplin tells Rolling Stone. “And when they went home, they were irritable and not their normal selves, and didn’t understand why they didn’t just bounce back to being the way they were before.”
Prior to Covid-19, Kaplin primarily treated patients with multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases who experienced depression, cognitive impairment, and other psychiatric consequences as a result of the activation of their immune system. In addition to telling him that their loved one is “no longer acting like themself,” patients’ spouses would often tell Kaplin that “this is not the person they married.” In these cases it’s not necessarily the illness directly causing this shift in temperament. “It’s not the virus that’s the problem — it’s the immune response to the virus that causes the trouble,” Kaplin says. “But my strong message would be that it’s not a personal weakness, you’re not crazy, and there really is a biology to this, in both directions.”
Although “personality change” may seem like an imprecise, colloquial way to describe what happens when someone’s character or temperament shifts, when it’s the result of an illness or chronic condition, it’s known as “medical personality change,” (MPC) and is an official diagnosis with its own billing code.

In a 2021 article published in the Journal of the Academy of Consultation-Liaison Psychiatry, the authors explain that patients with existing medical conditions may have MPC if they, inexplicably, no longer act like themselves; the diagnosis “is often characterized by bafflingly poor judgment and impairment in several aspects of a person’s life.”
As a neurologist specializing in cognitive disorders of the brain, Anna Nordvig, MD, has frequently seen these personality shifts in older adults with dementia, whom she has treated throughout her career. After noticing an increase in cognitive difficulties in patients who had previously been infected with the novel coronavirus, Nordvig co-founded the Post-COVID “Brain Fog” Clinic at the Columbia University Irving Medical Center and New York-Presbyterian Hospital in May 2020 (she and the clinic have since moved to Weill Cornell).

According to Nordvig, many of these personality changes — which she describes as “a temporary or prolonged tendency towards personality traits with which one was not previously identified” — are seen in neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, as well as traumatic brain injury. Additionally, she says, many chronic conditions can also cause a change in personality comparable with what Long Covid patients are experiencing, especially the low frustration tolerance that people with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) experience.

The third time Marjorie Roberts ended up in her local emergency room in Johns Creek, Georgia, she says it was the sickest she had ever been in her life. This was the summer of 2020, a few months after she contracted Covid-19.
“My 40-year-old daughter said to me, ‘I want my mom back,’” Roberts tells Rolling Stone. “I was so sick. She had never seen me at a point where I was helpless.”
Her daughter wasn’t only referring to Roberts’ physical condition, but also her drastic change in personality. “Before Covid-19, I was living my life like it was golden,” Roberts says. “I was always the person who lit up the room; always the person who was there to inspire and keep everybody laughing. I was just a joyful, happy spirited person.”
Now, 19 months after her Covid-19 infection — which resulted in spots on her liver, swollen lymph nodes in her lungs, and losing seven teeth — Roberts has regained her positive outlook (and helps others impacted by the pandemic do the same through her life-coaching business), but remains wary of interacting with other people. “I can’t do crowds anymore,” she says. “When I look at a crowd, I don’t see the actual people; what I see is Covid.”

Situations like Roberts’ offer insight into what may lead to personality change in people with Long Covid — including whether it involves specific changes to the brain, or is the result of a person’s lived experiences dealing with a highly traumatic illness during a pandemic. Nordvig says it’s probably both. “It is likely a combination of a primary neurological deficit, and a reaction to the stress, isolation, misunderstanding, and lack of social services out there — which is known as ‘lower frustration tolerance,’” she explains.
This may be another reason why the discussion on Long Covid and personality change is taking a while to get off the ground: Patients may not bring it up in order to avoid another round of gaslighting, and demands from employers and other people in their lives for “proof” that the condition exists. (For instance, many of those who contracted Covid-19 in spring 2020 were unable to access testing, and without evidence of a positive test, were denied care necessary for Long Covid.)
Roberts, for instance, is still traumatized by the gaslighting she experienced during the summer of 2020, when her Long Covid progressively got worse, while the rest of the country carried on as if everything was normal. “People were dying, but at the same time, others were partying,” she explains. “So when I heard people say ‘I want my life back, I want to go on vacation, I’ll send you a postcard,’ no — I don’t want your postcard. You don’t believe that I’m still sick.”

Roughly three months after his February 5th, 2021 Covid-19 diagnosis, Tony Marks returned to his full-time job as the director of a North Carolina-based software company. The first thing he noticed was his escalating reactions to the ringing of his office phone. Though he initially found the sound simply annoying, his frustration gradually built up to the point where it would completely set him off.
“I had co-workers peeping in the door saying, ‘Hey, are you OK?’ because it was totally not like me,” Marks tells Rolling Stone. “They hardly ever heard me talk, and now I’m sitting in a big office by myself and basically yelling at the phone.”
But the real turning point was when Marks asked one of his colleagues why everyone seemed to think he was perpetually in a bad mood — and to be honest with him. “She said, ‘I hate to tell you this, but it’s like you’re getting ruder as the days are going along. You’re short tempered,’” he recalls.
Later that day, when Marks told his wife about this conversation, she confirmed the observation about his change in temperament. “Nobody had said anything to me about it, and now the people that I trust and love the most are saying, ‘Yeah, man, you’re kind of losing it,’” he explains.
The reason this behavioral shift in Marks was so easily apparent was because it was such a departure from his pre-Covid personality. “Everybody would have considered me to be extremely calm, very laid back, very easy going — that guy that nothing affected,” Marks says. “I’ve always had that persona where I never stressed out over something. Can’t say that now.”

While there’s still a long way to go, thanks to researchers like Nordvig, we’re beginning to see what’s happening inside the brains of those with Long Covid. “In advanced imaging — especially in some of our studies — we see changes in blood flow, blood permeability, and brain metabolism that overlap with areas responsible for these areas of the personality,” Nordvig explains. “Neuropsychological testing is something we also send some patients for, to help diagnose the [personality] change. This is still under study.”
And given that Nordvig sees Long Covid personality change as likely being a combination of neurological issues and the mental health impact of long-term stressors, one cause shouldn’t be viewed as more “legitimate” than the other. “The thing is, it’s a false dichotomy, because the mind affects the brain, and the brain affects the mind,” Kaplin explains. “So saying that it’s both means that they’re interacting with one another.”
This interaction is something Fallon has experienced firsthand. Before she realized she was dealing with Long Covid, she sought neurological treatment for what she thought was post-concussion syndrome, and added a psychiatrist to her multidisciplinary medical team.

“At that point I was evaluated and diagnosed with PTSD, severe social anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, panic, and depression,” she explains. “I was presenting with the type of trauma experienced by war veterans.” It would take several months, but once Fallon was able to recognize and process her personality change, her persistent rage went away, and she felt like her pre-Covid self again.
Similarly, the turning point for Marks came when he was able to identify the change in his personality and adjust his behavior accordingly. He was also diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and started taking medication to help manage both conditions. “Now when the phone rings, I take some extra time before I answer it,” Marks says. “Is the medication helping me with some of that? I really can’t say. But I’m just trying to take the initiative to be aware of what’s going on, and to keep my attitude under control.”

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The Rage, hmmm..

The Rage Virus, also known simply as (the) Infection, is a fictional disease in 28 Days Later. It is a virulent, blood-borne virus that sends its hosts into a state of extreme, uncontrollable rage.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfroH1YrPf4
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Some ambulance chasing lawyer is bound to come up with the Rage Defense. Works like it's little sister, the Insanity Defense. Wait for it...
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
When hubs had Covid pneumonia and was so very sick, I did a ton of research and read a bunch of clinical trials. There's so much they still just don't know about Covid and the after effects.

I ran across an article that some people have been able to get relief from long Covid with Benadryl. It was discovered quite by accident after a long hauler took Benadryl for a cheese allergy, and felt remarkably better the next day. She experimented with the dosage and found it was indeed the Benadryl making the difference. She told her doctor about it, so others are using it too now.

Benadryl is a first generation H1 histamine receptor blocker. Pepcid AC is an H2 histamine receptor blocker that has been proven to help stop the inflammation caused by Covid (we witnessed this firsthand ourselves). It presents almost as a severe systemic allergic reaction, and I'm wondering if that's why the histamine blockers work.

I'm not a doctor, but I do a lot of research. Hopefully the information will help someone else.
It presents almost as a severe systemic allergic reaction, and I'm wondering if that's why the histamine blockers work.

That is interesting--especially in light of the fact that allergies are caused by an overactive (which means, malfunctioning) immune system.

And we know that both Covid itself--- and the vax created to supposedly 'immunize' against it, or at least 'mitigate' its effects--- attack / effect the immune system.

It's almost like either / both create some sort of auto-immune disease in the body that attacks the brain.
 

momma_soapmaker

Disgusted
It presents almost as a severe systemic allergic reaction, and I'm wondering if that's why the histamine blockers work.

That is interesting--especially in light of the fact that allergies are caused by an overactive (which means, malfunctioning) immune system.

And we know that both Covid itself--- and the vax created to supposedly 'immunize' against it, or at least 'mitigate' its effects--- attack / effect the immune system.

It's almost like either / both create some sort of auto-immune disease in the body that attacks the brain.
That's exactly what I have been thinking.

The cytokine storm that affects some people so severely seems to be caused by defective mast cells from what I've read.

Ya'll are the only ones I've talked to that are even considering this train of thought.

I've had a lot of time to think and read... maybe too much.


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