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Fisher

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Learning to cook on a woodstove
By Deborah Moore
Big Bay, Michigan

When my companion and I began our 18-month transition period of moving to and living in the woods, we also began a period of education. We discussed and planned much. We bought books and magazines and took classes on everything from solar collecting to gardening.

One subject evaded me: cooking on a wood-burning stove. Every time I saw a magazine that flashed headlines on wood stoves, my hands would tremble in anticipation as I reached for it. However, the wood stoves in question were for heating, not for cooking.

Since we were looking at a self-sufficient lifestyle and wood on our 160 acres was virtually free, there wasn't even a consideration to use anything but wood for heating and cooking. Our land is approximately 95 percent maple, a steady source of excellent quality hardwood. Labor intensive yes, but since we were quitting our jobs, we had the time.

Initially, we tried to find a real antique stove for our kitchen. Since the 20' by 24' kitchen/dining/living room was to be the main focus of our new house, we wanted the stove not only to be functional but attractive as well. The antique stoves we found were either attractive but of questionable functionality, or functional and downright ugly.

We bit the bullet and bought a brand-new, old-fashioned looking Enterprise King from Lehman's (if you ever have the chance to visit there, do it!). To this day, I'm glad we spent the extra money. Not that there aren't good old stoves out there, but we never found one.

Our stove has a warming oven overhead, a tip-down butter warmer, a washable porcelain clad oven with thermostat and an optional water jacket. The firebox has a side lifter lid and easily takes a 20-inch log. And it looks good.

But I still didn't know how to cook on it.

Being an experienced cook (translation: I love to cook), I figured I was tough. I was smart! I was inventive! I was lost. So I learned the hard way, by trial and error, lots of practice and even more patience. I've burned a few things, but only because I wasn't paying attention.

The functioning of the stove is really quite simple. They will last for generations with proper care, since there is so little that can go wrong with them.

One end has a firebox, and outside the firebox are vents. Mine has four "dials" which regulate how much air is fed to the fire. The more you open the vents, the hotter the fire. The ash door can also be opened for a surge of air, but this needs to be watched very carefully.

There is a sliding mechanism towards the back of the firebox. This diverts the smoke coming from the fire to go around the oven box before it escapes up the chimney. This heats the oven more consistently. The position of the slide unit is most important before lighting the stove.

Because a draft needs to be created when first firing up, the slide needs to be directed to the chimney. The positioning for my stove is to the right to light, to the left to bake. If you forget to reposition the slide, the result will be a roomful of smoke.

You can't set it at 350 º and walk away! The biggest challenge is keeping the oven heat even. Unlike a gas or electric stove, when you put something in the oven to cook and the temperature drops as the food absorbs the heat, nothing kicks in to compensate. What to do? Feed the fire wood that will burn quickly and offer more heat.

As the food begins to cook and its internal temperature rises, a longer, slower-burning piece of wood will maintain the heat. Open the oven door if it gets too hot - but not for long. Your oven may even have "hot spots" like mine. During baking, I turn bread or cookies 180 degrees halfway through the baking time. Stay in the kitchen when there is cooking to be done. In winter, it's the best place to be.

Range top cooking is similar to a gas or electric stove, but you have more room available. The entire surface is hot, not just four little burners. No, those circles are not burners, as I once thought.

The surface area can be divided into three major temperature zones. The hottest is right over the firebox, whether it is on the right or left. The next warmest would be in the center, and the coolest is the front of the side opposite the firebox. After the coffee perks over the firebox, it stays warm sitting on the far right corner.

Everything needs to be watched carefully, as the heat can drop or flare in a very short time. Don't be discouraged. Once you get used to the heat always being there (it doesn't shut off with the twist of a knob), cooking on a wood stove is easy.

Grilling takes some patience, but it can be done. You can get pretty good results by removing one of those little circles over the firebox and placing a heat-resistant grate over the flame. I use half of a hamburger basket meant for grilling. I also lay aluminum foil around the opening to keep splatters to a minimum. Since most barbecuing is done inches above hot coals, some adjustment is necessary. I let flames do the grilling rather than coals. Since the grate is so much further from the heat, I use a hotter fire.

The cleaning and care you give your woodstove is important. Most cook stoves have three types of surfaces. There is cast iron, porcelain or enamel-finished sheet metal and decorative trim. A wet rag or sponge wiped daily on the decorative trim should suffice. For baked-on spots, a bit of non-abrasive cleanser like Soft-Scrub works very well. Prevention is the best approach to cleaning. Avoid spilling or splashing, since you can't wipe it up right away.

Don't put a wet pot on the stove. Remember, the surface is cast iron and will rust, even when hot. The least of your cleaning worries will be the rust ring, but the worst will be the ring underneath the rust that is there forever. Spots that are left on too long will pit the cast iron. By first taking a razor blade to spills, you can scrape up lots of gunk and save your buffing pad and shoulder.

Scotch Brite Very Fine is a metal sanding pad that is unsurpassed for cleaning even the toughest spots on cast iron surfaces. Always buff back and forth in one direction, from front to back, or you will get a scratched look. Always let the surface cool before buffing, or you will melt the cleaning pad.

Once the entire surface has been buffed, use a soft flannel cloth and wipe a thin layer of cooking oil over the whole surface. This seasons the top and makes it easier to clean the next day.

A word of caution: The oil has to be spread thinly. I've used too much, and when I lit the stove the next morning, the kitchen smelled like cooking popcorn.

When necessary, you will need to wipe down the metal back splash and warming oven. Warm, soapy water or a non-abrasive cleanser will do the trick. Clean the soot from under the oven monthly in the summer and weekly in the winter when the stove is constantly running. There is a small opening concealed by a decorative nameplate directly under the oven. Use a long-handled scraper to remove the blackish soot and hardened chunks. It's best to do this when the stove is cool, or the draft will keep pulling the soot back in. Don't forget the sides of the ash compartment. Cinders don't always fall into the ash pan.

One of the most overlooked areas for cleaning is the top of the oven box. Remember, you keep diverting smoke around the oven. If enough ash collects there, it will have an insulating effect, and your oven won't heat properly.

A friend and neighbor (around here, a neighbor is anyone who lives less than 10 miles away) complained that her recently purchased antique stove was giving her fits when she tried to maintain a steady temperature. I didn't hear another complaint after making this suggestion.

The cooking surface is made up of two to four panels of cast iron. Remove these panels when the stove is cold and set them on newspapers, as they are sooty. This exposes the top of the oven box. The first time I did this was after a year of cooking, and I had over two inches of ash. Carefully brush this ash into the firebox, where it can fall into the ash pan. Do this too quickly and you'll raise an ash cloud.

Then take your long-handled scraper and scrape the sides of the oven box. Soot will fall to the bottom, where it can be removed through that little hidden door. The whole process should take about 15 minutes, and it will make a world of difference in your oven temperature. This cleaning should be done monthly or bimonthly in the summer and weekly in the winter.

The gasket around the top of the stove should be carefully inspected every year and replaced if it is too worn. I never concerned myself with the gasket. Two and a half years later, there was no gasket left! My stove had lost its air tightness, and I hadn't even noticed.

Most gasket packages I've seen include 84 inches of material, but my stove requires 100 inches. There is no loss of efficiency when material is pieced together. Just scrape the old stuff off, lightly sand, wipe off, glue and install the new gasket. This takes only 15 minutes and a few dollars, but what a difference it makes. Now that we're thinking about Y2K, it would be wise to keep a few gaskets in storage. You never know if they'll be available in a few years.

Cast iron pots and pans are nice, but certainly not necessary for wood stove cooking. Ceramic casserole dishes are great. Use common sense with pots that have plastic or wooden handles. Don't put anything into the oven that wouldn't go into a conventional oven, and don't position handles over the cooking area that you couldn't expose to a gas burner. Never put a plastic bowl on the stove, even if you think it's cold.

I purchased two pieces of cast iron cookware for $5 at an estate sale last summer. They were valued at over $80 new in a catalog. The old pieces cleaned up quickly and are among my favorites. One major advantage of cast iron is that it stays hot. That might not seem like a big deal until you serve a pot of stew or spaghetti on a cool evening.

Use the warming oven to your advantage. I keep four plates (two meals) and two soup bowls in my warmer. Having a pre-warmed plate at mealtime can make a big difference. I also have a biscuit stone (a terra cotta disk that is heated and put in the bottom of a basket of biscuits or rolls) that I rarely remember to heat up on time, so I just leave it in the bottom of the oven.

What I cook since we moved to the woods has changed, but that's because we've changed the way we eat. We eat less meat and more home-grown vegetables, more soups and bread. I now have the time to bake, and homemade, fresh-baked bread tastes like heaven. Soup is easy to simmer on the stove.

We have very little waste, because everything goes into a soup jar. This is something every cook can do. If you open a can of mushrooms, pour the juice into a jar and freeze it. After you cook vegetables, pour that liquid into the jar. I even save the liquid from soaking the roasting pan. To prevent overeating, put the last few mouthfuls of veggies, rice or potatoes in the soup jar. It makes for some very interesting, economical, healthy and work-free soup. For me, it's a conscientious thing to do, as I care about not wasting things.

Here in the Upper Peninsula, the weather is fairly cold all the time, so the stove is always running except in mid-summer. The first thing I do in the morning is light the stove. While the kindling is catching, I feed Muffin, our 15-year old cat. Then I add three or four pieces of wood, light the kerosene lamp, check the temperature outside and add larger logs to the fire. Now it's time to put the coffee pot over the fire box. Then it's back to the warmth of the bed. It takes about 20 minutes for the water to boil and another 20 minutes to perk. By the time the coffee is ready, the room is also warm.

I bake something almost every day. Since our refrigeration (an antique ice box) is limited, I bake only one loaf of bread at a time. Cookies and biscotti are favorites around here. Dinner is usually started around 4 P.M., and I let the fire go out. The coals are ready to be knocked down into the ash pan by 9:00. Since I don't want to mess with all the details when it's cold in the morning, I lay a new fire, clear the stove top and fill the coffee pot at night. I'm ready for a new day.
 

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lisa

Veteran Member
Very informative and interesting read...thanks! I can imagine it would take a while to get the hang of wood cooking...lots of good advice here.
Do you have electricity in your home or are you totally off the grid..plumbing and all?
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
When I was a kid I learned to use a cook stove some how it was more like you see your grandmother or uncle & aunt doing it and just follow their lead, the same way we learn to use a telephone, TV or car today. Today most people never seen a Wood Fired Cook Stove or Dutch Oven, so knowing how to use it is a mystery. Pies and bread from one of them is soooo good.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
Debbie Moore did a wonderful job of explaining the workings of a cook stove. Mine is a bit different than hers, but the basics are the same.
great job for sure.
and I think stoves vary from stove to stove, so you have to learn just how your stove works the best, right now I have cinnamon rolls rising to go into mine. They are so good cooked in your woodstove.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
Around here, a wood stove would have to be outside in a breeze way. For nine months of the year, it'd run you out of the house with the heat. I'd still like to have one.
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
That's a wonderful description of how to cook on a wood stove. Thanks for posting the article.

I cooked on a antique kitchen stove for a couple years. Mine had a warming shelf that was open, not closed in like the one in the pic. I don't remember it being to hard to learn. I think my first cake was a bust, but that's the only really bad failure I can remember.

I kept a can of stuff called "stove black" that I painted on the cast iron to keep it new looking. It did look like new even though it was an antique, it had been stored in a garage for over 60 years before it moved to my house. The stove black that I used was liquid in a can that was applied with a paint brush (I think the new stuff is a paste that comes in a tube)

When I first started learning I ask mom for some pointers. Her and grandma gave me lots of good advice that I should have written down. They told me which kinds of wood to use for different types of cooking. For example, a hot fast burning pine might be good to fry up a quick breakfast, but when it comes time for supper and baking then long burning hard wood is better. Toss in a bit of hickory when you're cooking meat and it'll taste better, never use pine when cooking meat. I sure wish I'd wrote down all the stuff they told me. They are long gone now and I don't have any old timers around to learn from again. Grandma had cooked on a wood stove for 50 years before they got a gas "range".

We had some lean years back in the 70's and I had to sell the old stove for grocery money. I've always wished I'd have found another way to get the money and kept the old stove.
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
My wood stove is made of brick, has an oven and 2 cooking surfaces on the top above the oven and the firebox is at the bottom. I keep the flue closed now since the brick oven is outside, but I open it when I use the cook surfaces.

I've never used the oven, but I have used the cooking top and cooked in cast iron skillets (bacon, eggs, potatoes, etc).

Aside from getting an oven temperature gauge, would I use this oven the same way basically as an indoor wood stove?

Maureen :dstrs:
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
We temporarily moved into an old Mennonite house when I was 13. It was heated by an old wood stove, which was also the only cooking appliance available due to there being no electrical wiring in the house. What an adventure!
The trick of balancing bread ontop of a knife and holding it over the open flame was never quite something that worked out. The toast always came out with the white shape of the knife imprinted on it, no matter how hard we tried to shift the bread around and spread the heat evenly.
Well, it was fun at the time. I'd hate to have to rely on such again though.
 

USDA

Veteran Member
I have recently installed a flat top wood stove, haven't cooked on it yet...but have a dutch over and will start soups...my relatives in Arkansas always cooked on a wood stove as they were totally off the grid...not by purpose, but because in the 1950's the grid wasn't there.

I expect there will be more of this type of cooking and warming to come back into vogue as we travel down the path towards third worldism. But it ain't bad, wood stove cooking, just requires people to drop high flight ideas of being millionairs.

In my neighborhood of fairly well to do...wood chimmneys are on almost every house...so someone is getting the message. I bought a slightly used wood stove for $500 and paid $1200 for the chimmney set up...and now stove oil is down. But glad we did...$5 a gallon or more for stove oil will put us in debtors prisons.
 

Samuel Adams

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I've burned a few things, but only because I wasn't paying attention.

There is the key.

It is especially tough for moderns who have been spoiled with the convenience of a typical kitchen….and figured out how to goof off elsewhere in house (stare at a phone/watch a movie, etc.) while the food prepares (sort of, comparatively) itself.

Pay constant attention, lest it be roast or other slow cook….

And, if you are going to spend some time cooking over a typical wood heating stove, (like we do) set up a shielding mechanism to keep the heat off your legs, etc….

Steaks, fried eggs and taters, popcorn, bread….if you have one of those flat stones and a Dutch oven or other uncertainly cover…

I built my wood stove large and with a flat top, and then cut a piece of quarter inch plate 4’x4’, to slide in and accommodate the stove pipe in the back center while increasing the area considerably for stainless pots for hot water.
Cut two “burners” in the top plate to get back down to the hotter stove top for serious cooking, while gentler/slower cooking gets done on the top layer.


Folks who get them fancy COOKING woodstoves is cheatin.




:popcorn3:




ETA…..


Oh, no……just saw this was an old, OLD thread.















Dennis gunna kill us all.






:bhrt::bhrt::bhrt::bhrt::bhrt:
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Haha...yeah..REALLY old!

The trickiest is the oven. When you graduate to baking good bread and pies in a wood cookstove, you are a master. But you can also see why there was a lot of slow, stove-top cooking going on. Less close baby-sitting of the fire.

I see the OP also addressed the issue of soot build-up around the interior oven jacket. Rarely do people think of it these days, but it's an issue. Yes, when used properly, smoke is diverted to encircle the outside of the oven. So.....when a cookstove was used routinely "back in the day" it was a spring ritual to take the blasted thing apart (they all come apart in "somewhat" reasonably sized pieces) drag it outside and clean out the soot. Haha..I have experience. I went through my Mom's wood cookstove with a fine toothed comb, loosening old bolts and reducing it to "parts" - scraping/wire-brushing soot and creosote from the inside when I took it apart and moved it to my house.
 
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patriotgal

Veteran Member
There is nothing like a Sunday morning fireworks show. Especially when it is 20 deg out. Dennis has to thaw before he can see what we are all up to.
 

West

Senior
I've restored a few nice wood cook stoves that were designed to burn coal or wood. All originally manufactured in the late 1800s to 1915. Before the porcelain craze.

Since it's been mostly a hobby since 1990s, I've been known to add other things like old hardware stove advertising signs, promotion literature and other things like cook books for the old stoves.

The cookbooks are 90% on the types of wood or coal, how much, how dry/seasoned, and draft/damper settings. They really dive into that more so than the recipes.

Like forgotten technology. :D

Here is one of my favorites, that I lifted off the internet...have the same stove, except ours has water heater and the 5inch nickled legs....
Majestic-450x600.jpg
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There is the key.

It is especially tough for moderns who have been spoiled with the convenience of a typical kitchen….and figured out how to goof off elsewhere in house (stare at a phone/watch a movie, etc.) while the food prepares (sort of, comparatively) itself.

Pay constant attention, lest it be roast or other slow cook….

And, if you are going to spend some time cooking over a typical wood heating stove, (like we do) set up a shielding mechanism to keep the heat off your legs, etc….

Steaks, fried eggs and taters, popcorn, bread….if you have one of those flat stones and a Dutch oven or other uncertainly cover…

I built my wood stove large and with a flat top, and then cut a piece of quarter inch plate 4’x4’, to slide in and accommodate the stove pipe in the back center while increasing the area considerably for stainless pots for hot water.
Cut two “burners” in the top plate to get back down to the hotter stove top for serious cooking, while gentler/slower cooking gets done on the top layer.


Folks who get them fancy COOKING woodstoves is cheatin.




:popcorn3:




ETA…..


Oh, no……just saw this was an old, OLD thread.















Dennis gunna kill us all.






:bhrt::bhrt::bhrt::bhrt::bhrt:
My grandmaw here in MS used a wood cookstove when they were still living in their old log cabin.

It was a big one too. When I was 7 it was as big as a car. And it was down right scary to go behind the thing. The only light bulb in the kitchen was over the dinner table. And you had to cross a breeze way from the main house to the kitchen. Which translates into freezing to death in the 10 seconds it takes to cross.

But her biscuits were totally awesome.

Some of those big cat head biscuits, too. Made in a cast iron skillet. She would flip those things out there on a.....had to be a turkey plate there was so many, and we'd grab one, and maybe two nice and golden on top and bottom, white through the middle.

That and some bacon and eggs, was all you could eat. Be some left over for lunch, covered with a towel, just sitting there waiting. Maybe some jelly, or bologna for lunch.

That was when she was paying attention other times they would be solid white, and at other times close to black. But dang they were still good.

It took a real man sized man, my grandpaw, to eat 3 of them.

I can eat a whole sleeve of 10 biscuits, now with no trouble, and be hungry by lunch. Be dragging those things through some butter and syrup and they fall apart.

They don't make them old cat head biscuits in an old wood stove the way they use to.
 

Samuel Adams

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My grandmaw here in MS used a wood cookstove when they were still living in their old log cabin.

It was a big one too. When I was 7 it was as big as a car. And it was down right scary to go behind the thing. The only light bulb in the kitchen was over the dinner table. And you had to cross a breeze way from the main house to the kitchen. Which translates into freezing to death in the 10 seconds it takes to cross.

But her biscuits were totally awesome.

Some of those big cat head biscuits, too. Made in a cast iron skillet. She would flip those things out there on a.....had to be a turkey plate there was so many, and we'd grab one, and maybe two nice and golden on top and bottom, white through the middle.

That and some bacon and eggs, was all you could eat. Be some left over for lunch, covered with a towel, just sitting there waiting. Maybe some jelly, or bologna for lunch.

That was when she was paying attention other times they would be solid white, and at other times close to black. But dang they were still good.

It took a real man sized man, my grandpaw, to eat 3 of them.

I can eat a whole sleeve of 10 biscuits, now with no trouble, and be hungry by lunch. Be dragging those things through some butter and syrup and they fall apart.

They don't make them old cat head biscuits in an old wood stove the way they use to.

Daaaaaaaaannnnnnnggggg



Here I am ALWAYS LATE to the party.






:gaah: :smkd::gaah::smkd::gaah:
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Both my grandmas cooked on a wood cookstove when I was a kid. Grandma F. had two in her kitchen because she was always cooking for a big table and farmhands. One thing I remember well from her was the big bowl of sourdough pancake batter always "working" on top of the warming oven.

Both Grandmas were great bakers. The other grandma was especially renown for her pies, and sold them as a side income.
 

oops

Veteran Member
One of the reasons we love thxgvg camp is cookin on gran's ol wood stove...patience...one way or the other is soon learned...lol
 

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Always be safe and have a fun camping. ※ Material used to make stove 1. Upper body: Stainless steel food container 1/3 size, 2 inches high / 176x325x65mm 2. Lower body(fire box): Stainless steel food container 1/3 size, 6 inches high / 176x325x150mm 3. Baffle plate: Stainless steel food container 1/3 size, lid / 176x325mm 4. Stovepipe flange assembly: D50 stainless steel hood cap and L50xD60 stovepipe 5. Fire box door: Rectangular stainless steel cooking tray / 195x105x15mm 6. Air inlet control: Air mixer for gas range 7. Side Heat sink cover: Rectangular stainless steel cooking tray / 195x105x15mm 8. Stove base plate: Rectangular stainless steel cooking tray / 375x230x10mm 9. Stovepipe: MESETA Stainless Steel Stovepipe / D60xL320mm 10. Glass window: CAMTORY Stove Glass&Frame Set 195x119mm(frame size) 11. Ceramic rope: Smato ceramic rope 10mmx25m 12. Inorganic adhesive(heat-resistance): TK-CERAMIC P-24E 150G 13. Others: M8 stainless steel stud bolts, flange nuts, eye nuts, butterfly nuts, washers, M4 stainless steel bolts & nuts, odds and ends of stainless steel sheet
 

China Connection

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Well soon when one needs to start cooking with wood, two things in general will probably be in short supply. Meaning wood and food.

Having little portable wood fire units and small pots will prove smart. It is very easy to burn a ton of wood. Not very smart if you are stuck in the same location.
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have recently installed a flat top wood stove, haven't cooked on it yet...but have a dutch over and will start soups...my relatives in Arkansas always cooked on a wood stove as they were totally off the grid...not by purpose, but because in the 1950's the grid wasn't there.

I expect there will be more of this type of cooking and warming to come back into vogue as we travel down the path towards third worldism. But it ain't bad, wood stove cooking, just requires people to drop high flight ideas of being millionairs.

In my neighborhood of fairly well to do...wood chimmneys are on almost every house...so someone is getting the message. I bought a slightly used wood stove for $500 and paid $1200 for the chimmney set up...and now stove oil is down. But glad we did...$5 a gallon or more for stove oil will put us in debtors prisons.
when I moved into my cabin, while waiting to build the bigger cabin

It had abox stove with a flat top.

i would make bread dough buns and put them in a frying pan on top of the stove.

I had another frying pan over top of the first one.

at some point during the cooking, I would turn the whole thing over.

I usually did this by smell.

that way the buns would be crusty on top and bottom.
 
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