CHAT Is MAGA falling apart?

subnet said:
Im not MAGA in the only Trump sense, Im anti democrat/communist/collectivist/socialist/Islamist...ect..ect...
You have me twisted....Trump is not the answer but he is what we have.

Work with it
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If you are only "anti" things, then you are manipulated by the games played by the controllers. You are being bounced around like the rest of the crowd. All they have to do is set up opposing sides and the normies will latch onto their emotional idols jumping through the series of hoops down the road to hell. Your goal is to fight the other side, just as their goal is to fight your side. You name your enemies while your greatest enemy is invisible to you and playing you.

I don't "work with it". I work around it or through it on the pathway I choose. You say Trump is what we have, but admit he is not the answer. What is your answer? What is your path? If you don't know, then you are following the path given to you by evil monsters.
 
Daisy's right. The ideas that became MAGA have been around for a LONG time. Trump (and his meda cheerleaders) just gave this collection of ideas "new & improved" packaging. MAGA may go out of fashion and be forgotten - but those ideas are still alive and well -- and being adopted by liberal-minded people who AREN'T progressively socialist/communist/islamists.
 
library lady said:
There is no perfect path. But the alleged American Unity party--represented here by Tucker Carlson--are not the answer either.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2106144769000816880
Oddly enough, you never hear Tucker Carlson say “Nazi Germany should have stayed out of Poland.”
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Was nazi Germany evil or wrong? Before reading further, answer yes or no.




When I was a teen, I saw films of Hitler and the German people of the 1930s-40s. I studied German in HS. My Austrian teacher marveled at how so many people could be fooled by Hitler. I saw the crowds cheering him, swooning before him, worshipping him. Why?

If you look at the history, you see how the German people lived through the great depression and had tough lives. Along came the Fuhrer promising wonderful things- Deutschland uber alles.... meaning, above all, Germany.... or Germany First.

As conservatives, we endured a dozen moronic presidents bent on serving the New World Order. They ushered in debt, foreign wars, eliminating the American manufacturing base, increasing poison vaccines, allowing foods to include poisons, and human rights violations. Along came Donald J Trump promising the cures for all our ills.
 
KFhunter said:
They’re all followers, the left have no leaders, they’re herd animals, all sheep.

Kamala is in the lead, still.

The right are more independent minded, less of a follower and Trump did botch Epstien and didn’t bother telling us why, Trump 47 hasn’t felt the need to sell his agenda
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Whats the old saying, too many chefs in the kitchen spoils the soup...lol
Everyone cant lead nor should they..gotta be followers in the mix.
 
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Saw on a news feed Trump doing a talk in Iowa. The venue looked small and who ever was controlling the cameras actually panned back and provided some audience shots. Didn't see any empty seats.
 
Old Gray Mare said:
Saw on a news feed Trump doing a talk in Iowa. The venue looked small and who ever was controlling the cameras actually panned back and provided some audience shots. Didn't see any empty seats.
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This is Trump country! But as I've said on other threads, the GOP is running a Kansas carpetbagger for governor, Zach Lahn. I think we'll end up with a Republican House and Senate in Iowa but with Rob Sand, a Democratic governor, unless they can ditch Lahn (maybe he dies while flying his private plane around) and they put in someone like Pat Grassley, Chuck Grassley's grandson. Otherwise, I think Sand will be the next governor.

I'm NOT pleased about that! It's just what I think will happen, and Iowa has a history of splitting tickets.
 
You saw what they did with Biden when Trump lost last time.

If they win again
the war will be with Russia and they do have nukes.
Iran will get pallets of cash.
There will be no more illegal immigration it will be an open door,
children and convicts will get gender care,
Military will cease being warriors
USAID will get fully funded and they will make astounding levels of graft legal
Biden gave all our weapons to Ukraine and sheep dipped our military to work there as mercs.
There was a time that merc was a negative reference and Ukraine was Russia with nukes aimed at us.
Trump used our weapons against a 40 year enemy.

Surprised no one remembers what you are voting for as if Democrats and liberals are acceptable in any form now.
They aren’t.
Neither is Tucker.
 
Meemur said:
This is Trump country! But as I've said on other threads, the GOP is running a Kansas carpetbagger for governor, Zach Lahn. I think we'll end up with a Republican House and Senate in Iowa but with Rob Sand, a Democratic governor, unless they can ditch Lahn (maybe he dies while flying his private plane around) and they put in someone like Pat Grassley, Chuck Grassley's grandson. Otherwise, I think Sand will be the next governor.

I'm NOT pleased about that! It's just what I think will happen, and Iowa has a history of splitting tickets.
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It is my understanding that Lahn has a home in Iowa and a second home in Kansas to stay when he visits his children- his ex-wife and children live in Kansas. :)
 
raven said:
You saw what they did with Biden when Trump lost last time.

If they win again
the war will be with Russia and they do have nukes.
Iran will get pallets of cash.
There will be no more illegal immigration it will be an open door,
children and convicts will get gender care,
Military will cease being warriors
USAID will get fully funded and they will make astounding levels of graft legal
Biden gave all our weapons to Ukraine and sheep dipped our military to work there as mercs.
There was a time that merc was a negative reference and Ukraine was Russia with nukes aimed at us.
Trump used our weapons against a 40 year enemy.

Surprised no one remembers what you are voting for as if Democrats and liberals are acceptable in any form now.
They aren’t.
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But, but, but... None of that matters, I'm not voting for a Republican, because I have to pay an extra $1 a gallon for gas now (which adds $40 more to the home budget, each month)....

Trump ruined everything!!!
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How's that sound? Can you name the members here who feel that exact way? I can!
 
King Samson said:
But, but, but... None of that matters, I'm not voting for a Republican, because I have to pay an extra $1 a gallon for gas now (which adds $40 more to the home budget, each month)....

Trump ruined everything!!!
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How's that sound? Can you name the members here who feel that exact way? I can!
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Trump isn't running again.
Your dreams have come true - oh, happy happy joy joy.

Now you have to find someone that can attract a majority of votes that won't convert you to Islam or Communism or give your job to either China, India, or a soon to be legal immigrant.

Good luck finding that in the Democrat party or the Tucker Party
 
raven said:
Trump isn't running again.
Your dreams have come true - oh, happy happy joy joy.

Now you have to find someone that can attract a majority of votes that won't convert you to Islam or Communism or give your job to either China, India, or a soon to be legal immigrant.

Good luck finding that in the Democrat party or the Tucker Party
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Good luck finding that on anyone running on any ticket. We all know what comes next and it looks a lot like Europe and South Africa right now.
 
Wyominglarry said:
I don't know about MAGA, but our entire country is coming apart.
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Some might say exactly as planned. Some are just watching and waiting. Normalcy is a fallacy. Programmed cognitive bias is real. We get it pushed on us 24/7 in a plethora of ways. Subliminal brainwashing and direct. Every darn day.

We’re being manipulate and brainwashed. Personally … I don’t buy either political parties mantra, hook line and sinker. But that’s how they sell it. It’s like a snowball rolling downhill, collecting more snow and other crap as it goes, getting bigger and bigger.

They try to force us to pick. Or not. It seems one party is really good at making snowballs. The great experiment
 
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Hognutz said:
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The lessor of two evils provided by the same entity.....good cop bad cop.....not sure there's ever been a time where a true public servant applied for that job...maybe Trump today is the man, a true public servant. Sure he's banking it, but he's exposing the criminals left and right. The people are no longer ignorant of this, other than the ignorant ones...DSA
 
FROG said:
It is my understanding that Lahn has a home in Iowa and a second home in Kansas to stay when he visits his children- his ex-wife and children live in Kansas. :)
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Lahn re-bought his family's farm in Belle Plaine (2015 ?), so he has "residency," but it can be argued that he doesn't actually live here. He's also a swamp creature: his second wife was married to Chase Koch, one of the Koch family members.

And there's more, but he basically follows the money. He's not someone we want in charge of the state. I (and others) want a middle-of-the-road candidate like Pat Grassley. The GOP leaders favor losers like Feenstra and Lahn. They need to be replaced.

And don't get me started on Sand! He is truly scary in his own right. Even a lot of the Democrats don't trust him.
 
Ractivist said:
not sure there's ever been a time where a true public servant applied for that job...maybe Trump today is the man, a true public servant. Sure he's banking it, but he's exposing the criminals left and right. The people are no longer ignorant of this, other than the ignorant ones...DSA
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Like I said above.... that doesn't matter..... because I'm paying an extra dollar a gallon for gas.... There's only ONE solution.... Impeach and remove Trump, because he didn't live up to MAGA..... /sarc

Pretty crazy, how some have completely lost their minds... right?
 
Yes, the TDS is a real mental disorder.....Trump is exposing this, like he is exposing the corruption...can't wait for the justice to be served. Then the TDS folks will likely implode into a different type of disorder....sheer depression.
 
LightEcho said:
If you are only "anti" things, then you are manipulated by the games played by the controllers. You are being bounced around like the rest of the crowd. All they have to do is set up opposing sides and the normies will latch onto their emotional idols jumping through the series of hoops down the road to hell. Your goal is to fight the other side, just as their goal is to fight your side. You name your enemies while your greatest enemy is invisible to you and playing you.

I don't "work with it". I work around it or through it on the pathway I choose. You say Trump is what we have, but admit he is not the answer. What is your answer? What is your path? If you don't know, then you are following the path given to you by evil monsters.
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Light echo, you are a wrench in the system. Nothing but anti what's working...... If you don't know this, you're a tool, and all that rhymes with it. Trump is the answer, in this day and age. Glass half empty.
 
Ractivist said:
Yes, the TDS is a real mental disorder.....Trump is exposing this,
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Scary... that there are some here, who claim "I voted for trump, 3 times", have been inflicted with TDS. It's almost if they really DIDN'T vote for him....

We need a vaccine developed that will cure TDS.... the hell with the Covid vax. TDS is a much BIGGER pressing issue!!

Ractivist said:
Light echo, you are a wrench in the system. Nothing but anti what's working...... If you don't know this, you're a tool, and all that rhymes with it. Trump is the answer, in this day and age. Glass half empty.
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Another scary one...
 
raven said:
Trump isn't running again.
Your dreams have come true - oh, happy happy joy joy.

Now you have to find someone that can attract a majority of votes that won't convert you to Islam or Communism or give your job to either China, India, or a soon to be legal immigrant.

Good luck finding that in the Democrat party or the Tucker Party
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Starrkopf said:
Good luck finding that on anyone running on any ticket. We all know what comes next and it looks a lot like Europe and South Africa right now.
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I can think of a few: Rubio, Vance, Desantis.
 
King Samson said:
How so??? (this should be good)..
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Desantis doesn't pull enough in most of the country. His time is past.

Vance cucked out and is now a yes man instead of standing by his principles. He is too closely covered in the toxicity from this current administration. And you can bet that Trump won't tolerate giving any of the credit to Vance to advance him as a candidate. Its a shame, I think he would have done a decent job and is definitely talented as an orator/debater.
 
rondaben said:
Desantis doesn't pull enough in most of the country. His time is past.

Vance cucked out and is now a yes man instead of standing by his principles. He is too closely covered in the toxicity from this current administration. And you can bet that Trump won't tolerate giving any of the credit to Vance to advance him as a candidate. Its a shame, I think he would have done a decent job and is definitely talented as an orator/debater.
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Ha ha ha.... I knew it would be good.... :lkick:
 
The interview with Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg about fighting World War II
Run time 10:14

Tucker Carlson asks Jacob Rees-Mogg why Britain fought the Second World War and gets a blunt reply. In this clip the host argues the war destroyed the empire and produced no clear gain for ordinary Britons, then answers “Who cares?” when told the alternative was speaking German. Was fighting Nazi Germany actually good for Britain, or did it accelerate decline? Rees-Mogg calls it the classic good-versus-evil decision that stopped eventual invasion and preserved self-respect. Carlson pushes the national-interest test instead.The exchange covers:
  • Carlson’s claim he never understood why Britain entered the war
  • The Versailles territorial argument he raises about Poland
  • Rees-Mogg’s insistence Britain did the right thing and would otherwise have faced German rule
  • The “who cares” response on language and the follow-up on whether the UK is healthier today
  • How the WWII debate connects to Rees-Mogg’s warning that Britain must prepare for possible conflict with Russia
Secondary angles include empire costs, good-versus-evil framing, and whether wars should be judged by outcomes for the people who fight them.Full Interview: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/21...
 
This is a perfect example of one of the many “MAGA wedges”. So many on here are anti DSA, but perfectly okay with R(epublican)SA as long as no one touches “muh social security”. Apparently that’s one issue that will make those receiving it dance to any tune TPTB want regardless of party or ideals.

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Poll: US boomers support tax hikes on young workers to keep current Social Security checks — the view is overwhelming

Younger Americans want to cut benefits, while older Americans want to raise taxes. One of these groups is more likely to win, and everyone needs to prepare now.
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