CHAT Is MAGA falling apart?

They are believing everything the left is telling them. If you repeat a lie often enough people begin to believe it. Look at the sh*t they spew. Everyday, over and over. Relentless. Every protest, a sea of lies written on signs. With that kind of incoming fire it's no wonder the side of truth is being beaten down.
 
James C. Collins called it The Stockdale Paradox

You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end — which you can never afford to lose — with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.
James Stockdale
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We're close to midterms. No one from the other side has gone to jail. Past reality shows most Executive Orders get undone after an inauguration.

The swamp creatures have been taking the MAGA punches patiently. Congressional Rope-a-dope...

Most assuredly we're better off now than we would be with Kamala. That's small consolation when the dems offer poop sandwiches and repubs offer poop sandwiches with mustard.

Eta: It grieves me to make this statement:
1) Trump truly loves this country but the swamp is just too big. Too many peeps at every level look at self-interest rather than "big picture goals".

2) Trump was controlled opposition all along to appease the "right" until an iron-clad fail-safe surveillance apparatus was implemented (I don't believe this but can't completely deny the remote possibility)

Who? Tell me WHO might be able to carry on the ideals that got him elected?
 
They are believing everything the right is telling them. If you repeat a lie often enough people begin to believe it. Look at the sh*t they spew. Everyday, over and over. Relentless. Every protest, a sea of lies written on signs. With that kind of incoming fire it's no wonder the side of truth is being beaten down.
 
Go ahead, make fun, make me look stupid and naive. I'm going to ride this horse until his race is over or he drops dead, because there is no other horse available with his unique qualifications and I like what he is doing. I pray for him each day knowing the gargantuan task he has before him and the evil people who want him dead because THEY actually believe that he can do the job and THEY can't take that risk. If nothing else he is upsetting many apple carts. You don't know everything that is going on behind the curtain and neither do I but I bought this horse and now I will do my best to support him. I won't be the reason for his failure. Only weak minds wander off, mid race because they start to believe the lies and doubts of the others that need him to lose. Again I chose this horse and will ride him till the end. If by then I find out I was wrong, oh well, it won't matter anymore because the people threw away their last, best choice.
 
We did our part, Trump was the 3rd party candidate in all of his elections. The elections (2016-2024) have always been the Democrat vs. the establishment selected Republican and Trump.

I voted for Trump to be a wrecking ball and boy has he. Yes he hasn’t pleased Third Way voters completely and we as a group get disappointed and point the finger of indignation at our candidates with the least divergence of platform.

I have always been 100% Trump after the first debate of the Republican primaries in 2016. Yes he’s an ass at times and I don’t want my sons to emulate him, but he’s the right man for the dirty job at hand.
 
ivantherussian03 said:
My hard core MAGA friends are ditching the cause. Is it falling apart?

They are disappointed in everything. Why?
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You need to talk to your friends.

The real enemy, the closest to us, therefore the most dangerous, is the GOPe, the RINOs, the traitors in our midst who are subverting and undermining the MAGA agenda like "Leader" John Thune, the snake at the helm of the US Senate. Next are the liberal judges who issue injunctions and rulings to stop implementation of policies designed to correct years of liberal tyrannical government, often at the hands of un-elected faceless bureaucrats. Finally the democrats themselves whose poll numbers are at historical lows.

Your friends look at this panoply of adversaries and turn on the one man opposing this tyranny? Really?

If you can't educate them; you need new friends!:dstrs:
 
Shooter said:
They are weak, afraid that people will make fun of them

ask them if they would have rather had kamilla in charge, Trump aint perfect, but hes way above the alternative
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That's a fake answer.
It's not like Kamala is even an option in the discussion.
We voted for MAGA but there is very little MAGA left.
The failures have been listed here are many.
I'm not going to repeat them.
And the attention has gone away from many MAGA issues.
 
ShyGirl said:
I'm going to ride this horse until his race is over or he drops dead, because there is no other horse available with his unique qualifications
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I still think Trump is better than any we've had in a long time.
But, he's running on a different track.
Not MAGA.
Of course he accomplished some things and I acknowledge the head winds.
What happened to the Tea Party is happening to MAGA.
 
I can think of two problems faced by MAGA.

First, Trump really stepped on his dick regarding the handling of the Epstein files. He was VERY critical of his base when we wanted answers. People took serious offense to his comments.

Second was the lack of action from the DOJ. We were, and still are, expecting to see some orange jump suits. It's not like there isn't plenty to choose from. Truly a target rich environment. Plus, those left standing will come after us with a penchant once they cheat their way back into power. Was it Bondi? Was it Bondi acting on Trump's orders? Doesn't matter. Either way it comes back on Trump.

People have a bad habit of tunnel vision only seeing what they want and not what has been accomplished. Unfortunately these two blunders REALLY hurt Trump.
 
MAGA was a nice slogan on a hat. What has replaced it is a bunch of determined people trying to dismantle what sleepy Joe said before the 2020 election and that was "we have assembled the best election fraud system ever". That old idiot let it slip and now the GOP is doing its' best to break it. The slimey party has won almost all of their elections with cheating. The rest has been with brain washing young white women. It's a slow process but I do believe the normal people will prevail. Hang in there and don't get disallusioned with the process.
 
ivantherussian03 said:
My hard core MAGA friends are ditching the cause. Is it falling apart?

They are disappointed in everything. Why?
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Ask your friends where they primarily get their news. If it is the MSM then you will know why they are disappointed. Remind them that the MSM dislikes Trump and his supporters and the MSM primarily only report THIER HOPE that he is failing. Then suggest a few news sources that you think are more fair and/or unbiased in you opinion.
 
Given the faux pas, the missteps, even the wrong thinking, the alternatives are NOT acceptable.

At issue is all of the good promised has not happened. The bigger issue is the vast empire of evil including the shadow government that Bambam set up, the lamestream media, and yes, even the rinos have been working against him trying to prevent or undo what he has done. MAGA, or Make America Great Again has many foes that do NOT want America great. They hate America.

Podcasters are either controlled opposition to begin with or are simply being contrarian so they can get more views which I guess means more money. Alex Jones attacks Trump every chance he gets. There were a LOT of MAGA people that used to listen to AJ when he was 100% Trump. What AJ either does not realize or does not care about is that attacks on Trump do not just point out things he could have done, should have done but they embolden the enemy, they cause doubts in supporters and in the end, they weaken the very issues and narratives that people want.

There is no choice between good and evil. Evil Must be defeated and when you get strong enough like carrying all three branches with superiority, then you can nitpick the issues you think the good should be working on. Until then, let's not let Evil works it's black magic and end up defeating good.

We would NOT like the results.
 
ivantherussian03 said:
My hard core MAGA friends are ditching the cause. Is it falling apart?

They are disappointed in everything. Why?
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Honestly, it's because of the promises NOT KEPT.
WE are still watching our money go overseas.
Crimes committed by the elites, the atmosphere being poisoned, children being kidnapped by corrupt agencies and being distributed to who knows where,
Shall we talk about TAXATION.
How's those fuel costs,
Then there's that BULLSHIT regarding the ILLEGALS. Like those illegal truck drivers that are supposedly taking off the road, THAT ALONE should mean there's more available freight for American truckers to haul. There's NOT.
ALSO, They supposedly took another 3500 off the road, and are only deporting 41?
Then there's the ones with the drivers name of, and I quote, "no name given", by the hundreds.
Maybe we should talk about the farms, the price of beef, maybe the new "tick born diseases" to stop folks from eating beef, and forcing them to possibly eat that lab grown shit. Btw, those boxes, of ticks, have been found all over the country.
Let's talk of the chemtrails, .
Now those ****ers have come out, and admitted to doing it, yes Florida has outlawed them, BUT APPARENTLY ONLY TO A CERTAIN ALTITUDE.
Maybe we should talk about the EPSTEIN FILES, and no arrests, no prosecution, no convictions, just redacted information, names, and lost files.

AND THE LISTS GO ON.
SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT DAY.
 
If this was done in 1773, 1774, not only would tea be floating in the harbor, but in certain that corrupt officials, and their lackies would be hanging from every tree branch, lamp post, sign post, and bridge overpass.
It's getting way overdue, and I'm pretty sure when, and IF it happens, a bunch of innocent folks will suffer as well.
All I know is folks are fed up, the strain is way too much, and folks ARE snapping, unfortunately at each other, and not at who is causing the problem.
They are, for some reason, still under the ASSumption that, "oh we will get them next election",
Vote for D, Vote for R.
Left and right wings of the same virus infected bird.
 
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$5 gas in Ohio!

@POTUS - we fought for you to put America first. This isn’t it.

We cannot let the left win in the midterms, but you are handing them victory with this single action.

Declare whatever type of victory you need in Iran and GTFOH with that nonsense. There’s nothing more we can do without ground troops, and sending in ground troops will end your presidency.

This isn’t political positioning; it’s political reality. I understand Susie Wiles’s position as Netanyahu’s former campaign advisor, but the people you need to turn out in the midterms don’t care. We care that it costs $35 bucks for 7 gallons of gas. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
 
Think one of the reasons is because simply of this Iran War and then the high gas prices. Many people think and vote with their pocket books, how they doing economically. Yes this present high cost of gas will go against Trump rather one wants to admit it or not.
 
ivantherussian03 said:
My hard core MAGA friends are ditching the cause. Is it falling apart?

They are disappointed in everything. Why?
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Many people expected perfection from a politician..yes, he is in politics and is a politician now.
Add in influencers that apparently would have been quite happy if a democrat won and we returned to the status quo of losing speech and gun rights constantly, including driving a wedge consisting of a anti trump narrative on a daily.
They didn't get what they wanted, how they wanted, when they wanted it and are now acting like spoiled brats imo and will be directly responsible for what the democrats will do when they win.
 
I'm still on board, but man, it's not hard to see where some disillusionment is kicking in.

Gas is $5 a gallon. Grocery prices are catastrophic.

Half the stuff we were promised is NOWHERE to be seen. Hey, how about those DOGE refunds? Tariff refunds?

How's Greenland looking? How about the 51st state out of Canada? Anyone get thrown in jail over the Epstein thing? Anybody worth talking about get arrested over stealing the election in 2020? How about anyone over that whole COVID mess that went on forever and killed business? No? Hey, how about getting rid of the IRS? Nope, still writing my quarterly tax checks. They went UP this year, too!

Personally, I blame Congress, which has done everything it can to get in the way. But I can see where some people would start blaming Trump, the visible face of MAGA.
 
GEEZ, one would think the recent efforts on Comey would appease some. Or the statement about hyperactive operations beginning. We are seeing the path to pursue Fauci develop. We are seeing Cuba about to become a state maybe....Venezuela moving in the direction of free people, again. Iran is a thorn in the worlds side, and their manipulation of oil along with the City of London has been exposed, and is being dealt with. The net result will be cheaper gas...but there's a process to go thru to get there. The massive amounts of fraud and corruption is being exposed within our government.........

Some folks here, should not be so negative....makes me wonder, how far the psyops goes...or the critical thinking lost.

The sheer amount of the corruption should make it obvious the depth of the problem and the difficulty in dealing with all the evil SOB's. We see the one eye'd people gladly selling their souls to fight Trump, and enrich themselves.

It's sad to see some of the family here, so willing to ignore the big picture, while whining about the price of gas. When a person goes in for major heart work, sometimes they have to cut the chest wide open to fix things. It aint easy folks.

Until the mid terms are over, I stand tall and strong for President Trump. Un ashamedly. And I personally love his direct approach, speaking his mind, ridiculing the evil left. I love his style. No one person can troll the left like he does. And those here who don't like it should wake up to its effectiveness. Who else knows of a psychiatric label as well defined as TDS. He's an amazing man, and I pray he is successful in all his endeavors to save the country, and the world.

But alas, we are living at the end of the age. Harder times are guaranteed. I pray those so easily turned against Trump, don't give up on Christ as easily.

Grow a pair, or reach down and free em up....
 
Ractivist said:
It's sad to see some of the family here, so willing to ignore the big picture, while whining about the price of gas. When a person goes in for major heart work, sometimes they have to cut the chest wide open to fix things. It aint easy folks.
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You don't have major heart surgery before you run a triathlon, though.
 
The question to ask is what made America great in the first place and are we doing now what we did in the past? The answer is an emphatic no! The uniparty is running the country and this party is made from Democrats, Republicans and ensconced bureaucrats that go from administration to administration.

If we look at what was proposed to do in order to MAGA from the first Trump administration to the second one, they have become diametric opposites in many areas. We went from ‘draining the Neocon swamp’ to climbing in bed with them and we have been expected (like dumb sheep) to go along with it because ‘our guy’ is in charge. They expect us to be as dumb and programmed as the bots on the left that supported everything that came out of and thru Biden.

Fact of the matter is there is no ‘fixing’ Washington or voting our way out of this mess. Those among us that have discerned that are now more concerned about bracing for impact than we are about the shining baubles and the perfunctory rearranging the deck chairs on the U.S.S. Titanic.
 
Blacknarwhal said:
ersonally, I blame Congress, which has done everything it can to get in the way. But I can see where some people would start blaming Trump, the visible face of MAGA.
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I mentioned the strong headwinds Trump faces.
The courts have been at least as big an issue as Congress.

But, his attention has shifted away from many MAGA issues.
 
Hfcomms said:
The question to ask is what made America great in the first place and are we doing now what we did in the past? The answer is an emphatic no! The uniparty is running the country and this party is made from Democrats, Republicans and ensconced bureaucrats that go from administration to administration.

If we look at what was proposed to do in order to MAGA from the first Trump administration to the second one, they have become diametric opposites in many areas. We went from ‘draining the Neocon swamp’ to climbing in bed with them and we have been expected (like dumb sheep) to go along with it because ‘our guy’ is in charge. They expect us to be as dumb and programmed as the bots on the left that supported everything that came out of and thru Biden.

Fact of the matter is there is no ‘fixing’ Washington or voting our way out of this mess. Those among us that have discerned that are now more concerned about bracing for impact than we are about the shining baubles and the perfunctory rearranging the deck chairs on the U.S.S. Titanic.
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Well said! :applaud:
 
They're retarded and not mature enough to realize how completely America has been captured by globalists.
They lack the fortitude to stick with President Trump while he sacrifices everything to free us and set us back up to being the great nation we are supposed to be.
 
I’m come on here often bitching of Trump. But I support him to this day. Don’t like many things. However not all his fault but that of the RINO’s he has within the group. But he far exceeds anything we would get from the left. A lot has to happen in the next 2 1/2 years … or it’s going to be wrote off in the first day of a Demonrat presidency.

The next target of them Demonrats is you and I. We’ve only got a taste of what they’re are going to do to America.

MAGA always
 
MAGA is fading away from self inflicted wounds.

NO arrests. Hitlery, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Bolton, Schiff et al. The Epstein fiasco is still out there. What about Greenland? We don't use Iranian oil so why are gas prices going through the roof?

You want Obama arrested for treason and other charges? Well, a criminal referral was allegedly filed on him recently but please don't hold your breath waiting for his sorry ass to ever appear in a court of law.

The media WANTS a collapse and overthrow of our Constitutional Republic.

Last but certainly not least...the Republican Congress has done virtually NOTHING, with the possible exception of the so called One Big Beautiful Bill last year. No impact on H1B. No voter ID and possibly other Election Viability laws. Chuck the Schmuck held America hostage for about 110 fays. We should consider that a National Disgrace.

Pardon my French but that Communist revolutionary dickwad from Maine, Platner, is a serious threat to this nation.

MAGA and the Republican Congress are whistling past the graveyard.
 
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