WAR Iran/ US/mideast war thread - 2/28/26 Open Hostilities (Thread for Off Topic discussion started, see post #13,751, page 344)

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Abert

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Babs said:
The crew is outfitted with a "beacon" of sorts. It sends a signal so that they can be found.
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Correct - plenty of personal locator systems - used by boaters - hunters - and others for decades.
His appears to be a type of Sat Phone - not some new BS Area 51 type of CIA tool

Plenty of these systems- more info.

406MHz Emergency Distress Beacons | SARSAT

www.sarsat.noaa.gov www.sarsat.noaa.gov
 
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Abert

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Big Sarge said:
Either way I don’t see the cease fire lasting 2 weeks. Or even 1 week. Whoever can reorganize, restock and reload the quickest will pull the trigger next.
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Looks like that will be how it goes - it did get Trump an off ramp from his bombing them back to the stone age threat.
Trump has done this several times in the past with his other war - now we have a new Narrative and no timelines
Everything is reset.

Even the text what each side has proposed is unknown - same as his other war - lots of unpublished versions - lots of SPIN and in the end nothing gets resolved.

But already we see the US rearming and at the same time Trump issued a statement that any nation that provides arms to Iran will face a 50% Tariff - one side can rearm and restock - but not the other.

Naturally Russia could care less and for China does he want a new trade war.
 
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auxman said:
Goldie Ghamari:

I had a call with @OttawaPolice today. I was told if I don't delete my X posts where I say Mosques in Occupied Iran are hubs of terrorism and should be bombed, I would be charged under the Criminal Code of Canada.

So I deleted my posts.

Meanwhile, Mosques in Occupied Iran:

RT 0:14
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So, Canada has become allies with the Islamic war on freedom of speech.
 
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Countrymouse said:
"as a vital international chokepoint, it is legally governed by UNCLOS transit passage rules"

"they are governed by international maritime law and the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)"

Even if Iran didn't "sign", these ARE the rules.

But since when (in the last 47 years) did Iran ever obey the rules?

www.britannica.com

Who controls the Strait of Hormuz? | Britannica

Who controls the Strait of Hormuz? The shipping lanes in the Strait of Hormuz are located primarily in Omani territorial waters, and partially in I
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As Iran is not a party to the treaty they are not bound by it for their territorial waters. Historically they have allowed passage but obviously that changed. At the narrowest point the shipping lanes are in Omani waters. Now by mining or at least claiming to mine Omani waters to force ships passage through Iranian waters violates a ton of laws but they have been able to control it for a month and a half and nobody has been able to stop it. We have come up with a slew of excuses and reasons why the US can’t do it and the rest of the world can’t do it either. Until that dynamic changes they choke a vital shipping passage and the whole world pays for it.
 
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IntelSky:

#BreakingNews
Initial reports and navigational indicators suggest the potential crash or downing of a Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton, a strategic U.S. unmanned surveillance aircraft, while operating over Persian Gulf waters.
According to aviation tracking and flight data, the aircraft recorded a sudden and sharp descent while over international waters. Immediately before its signal vanished from radar screens, the drone transmitted a Squawk 7700 code—the international signal for a critical and sudden in-flight emergency.


Technical Context

The MQ-4C Triton, an advanced derivative of the RQ-4 Global Hawk, is a high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) platform. It is a cornerstone of U.S. maritime surveillance, utilized for intelligence gathering and reconnaissance over vast distances.


Current Status

As of this moment:
* The Pentagon and U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) have issued no official comment to confirm or deny the incident.
* Iranian authorities have released no official statements claiming responsibility for a potential shoot-down.

Strategic Impact: Should the downing be confirmed as a result of hostile fire, the incident is expected to trigger significant geopolitical repercussions, particularly as it occurs on the eve of tomorrow’s scheduled negotiations.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042190745998630985
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@Steven_Swinford

Britain believes that the ceasefire needs to be extended to include Lebanon and has described Israeli strikes as 'completely wrong'

It's another point of tension with the US and Israel

Yvette Cooper, the foreign secretary: 'What Israel was doing yesterday with these strikes was completely wrong

'We've seen the mass displacement of civilians with significant humanitarian consequences

'This escalation is damaging, it is going in the wrong direction. We want the ceasefire extended to cover Lebanon'

@bonchieredstate

Britain and France are now openly siding with Iran and allowing it to dictate the terms for Hezbollah.

This whole ally thing is going just great.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042189319469724141
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@EmmanuelMacron

I have just spoken with Lebanese President Joseph Aoun and Prime Minister Nawaf Salam.

I expressed France’s full solidarity in the face of the indiscriminate strikes carried out by Israel in Lebanon today, which resulted in a very high number of civilian casualties. We condemn these strikes in the strongest possible terms.

They pose a direct threat to the sustainability of the ceasefire that has just been reached. Lebanon must be fully covered by it.

I reiterated the need to preserve Lebanon’s territorial integrity and France’s determination to support the efforts of the Lebanese authorities to uphold the country’s sovereignty and implement the Hezbollah disarmament plan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2041990505760772551
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042193552260710433
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CNN reports that a hacker group calling itself FlamingChina breached the China National Supercomputing Center in Tianjin and exfiltrated up to 10 petabytes of classified defence data. The samples posted on dark web forums include bomb and missile designs, animated explosion simulations, structural integrity tests, renderings of the J-20 stealth fighter, sixth-generation aircraft concepts, nuclear submarine schematics, hypersonic weapons systems, and target analyses for American assets including HIMARS launchers and carrier strike groups. Ten petabytes. For context, the entire printed collection of the US Library of Congress is approximately 10 terabytes.

This breach is one thousand times that volume. It is being sold for cryptocurrency on Breach Forums. Cybersecurity experts who reviewed the previews told CNN the data appears genuine, matching known output patterns from the NSCC Tianjin facility, which serves over 6,000 clients including defence agencies and aviation firms across China. The timing is extraordinary. Trump posted a 50 percent tariff threat on any country supplying military weapons to Iran hours before CNN published this story. Five Chinese vessels shipped sodium perchlorate to Iran from Gaolan Port in the past six weeks, enough propellant precursor for hundreds of ballistic missiles.

China’s ghost fleet continues operating through the IRGC’s yuan toll booth at Hormuz. And now the supercomputer that designed the weapons China is helping Iran reconstitute has been gutted by hackers selling its contents for the same cryptocurrency that Iran charges for strait passage. The irony is architectural. China built a parallel financial system using yuan and crypto to bypass the dollar at Hormuz. A hacker group is now using crypto to bypass Chinese state security and sell Beijing’s most classified military designs to anyone with a wallet address. The same technology that enables sanction evasion enables espionage monetisation. The blockchain does not distinguish between a toll payment and a weapons leak. It processes both.

For Xi, this is a catastrophe arriving at the worst possible moment. Bessent’s mid-May Beijing summit was already going to be difficult. Trump holds the waiver on 140 million barrels of Chinese-bound Iranian crude. The 50 percent tariff threat targets China’s arms pipeline. The IDF just destroyed 100 Hezbollah targets using F-35I aircraft with Israeli software upgrades the Pentagon approved today. And now the classified designs for China’s most advanced military systems, the systems that justify the rare earth monopoly and the South China Sea posture and the Taiwan coercion campaign, are available for purchase on a dark web forum for less than the price of a single Hormuz transit.

If the data is genuine, every adversary and ally of China can now reverse-engineer the capabilities Beijing spent decades and hundreds of billions developing. The J-20’s stealth profile. The hypersonic glide vehicle’s trajectory calculations. The nuclear submarine’s acoustic signature. The sixth-generation fighter’s sensor architecture. All of it, priced in crypto, available now. China wanted to build a post-dollar world. A hacker group just demonstrated what that world looks like when the technology works in both directions. Shanaka Anselm Perera

09 APR 2026 | 05:50 ET ET
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auxman

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somewherepress said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042193552260710433
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TECH - Hacker breaches China’s National Supercomputing Center in Tianjin, stealing over 10PB of sensitive data

Faytuks Network: A hacker using the alias “FlamingChina” claims to have breached China’s National Supercomputing Center in Tianjin, stealing over 10PB of data spanning aerospace, military research, bioinformatics and fusion simulations, and is offering access for sale in cryptocurrency — CNN...
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com
 
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BREAKING: President Trump has set a deadline for European allies to provide concrete military support in the Strait of Hormuz, including the deployment of warships, Der Spiegel reports. NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte informed European countries that political pledges made since the start of the conflict are no longer sufficient.
The ultimatum was relayed by Rutte after his meeting with Trump in the White House


5:45 AM · Apr 9, 2026
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Tucker Carlson just had Alastair Crooke on his show to cry about Israel wrecking Hezbollah. Here's who Crooke actually is:
former MI6 officer who spent decades embedded with Hamas and Hezbollah leadership until the British government finally forced him out Blair personally had him removed because he'd gotten too cozy with terror organizations. That's how far gone he was — his own government couldn't defend him anymore

After founding "Conflicts Forum" in Beirut, his own co-founder quit because Crooke's open admiration for the Iranian regime after it massacred protesters in 2009 was too much to stomach

Mother Jones reported that observers in London and Jerusalem believed Conflicts Forum functions as a front for Tehran

Israeli press reported he was actively training Hamas operatives while supposedly serving as an EU adviser

His 2009 book was widely criticized for gushing over Iran's revolutionary ideology without a single word of condemnation for Hezbollah

He is now one of the most prominent pro-Iran voices in Western media during an active war against American forces This is Tucker's "expert" on Lebanon.


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11:43 PM · Apr 8, 2026
 
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@yashar

The leaders of these countries have released a joint statement on the situation in Iran which includes a call to end the war.

France, Italy, Germany, the United Kingdom, Canada, Romania, Denmark, Iceland, the Netherlands, Sweden, Slovakia, Greece, Spain, Norway, Finland, Japan, along with the European Union.

“We welcome the two-week ceasefire concluded between the United States and Iran today.

We thank Pakistan and all partners involved for facilitating this important agreement.

The goal must now be to negotiate a swift and lasting end to the war within the coming days. This can only be achieved through diplomatic means.

We strongly encourage quick progress towards a substantive negotiated settlement.

This will be crucial to protect the civilian population of Iran and ensure security in the region. It can avert a severe global energy crisis.

We support these diplomatic efforts. To this end, we are in close contact with the United States and other partners.

We call upon all sides to implement the ceasefire, including in Lebanon.

Our Governments will contribute to ensuring freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.”

Signed By:

Emmanuel Macron — France
Giorgia Meloni — Italy
Friedrich Merz — Germany
Keir Starmer — United Kingdom
Mark Carney — Canada
Nicusor Dan — Romania
Mette Frederiksen — Denmark
Bjarni Benediktsson Frostadóttir — Iceland
Rob Jetten — Netherlands
Ulf Kristersson — Sweden
Michal Šimečka — Slovakia
Kyriakos Mitsotakis — Greece
Pedro Sánchez — Spain
Jonas Gahr Støre — Norway
Alexander Stubb — Finland
Sanae Takaichi — Japan
Ursula von der Leyen — European Commission (EU)
Antonio Costa — European Council (EU)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042107545284964523
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Mehdi Mohammadi, advisor to the Speaker of the Parliament, says:

"Only a few hours remain. Without fully restraining America's rabid dog in Lebanon, there will be no ceasefire or negotiations, and the missiles are ready to fly. The equation is that the fate of the components of the Resistance Axis as part of the new regional order after Iran's victory must be established; if it happens, it will be with kind words, otherwise with war."


7:59 AM · Apr 9, 2026
 
Countrymouse

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mecoastie said:
As Iran is not a party to the treaty they are not bound by it for their territorial waters. Historically they have allowed passage but obviously that changed. At the narrowest point the shipping lanes are in Omani waters. Now by mining or at least claiming to mine Omani waters to force ships passage through Iranian waters violates a ton of laws but they have been able to control it for a month and a half and nobody has been able to stop it. We have come up with a slew of excuses and reasons why the US can’t do it and the rest of the world can’t do it either. Until that dynamic changes they choke a vital shipping passage and the whole world pays for it.
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exactly. "violates a ton of laws".

SO----when is the WORLD going to stand up to these PIRATES and OUTLAWS?
 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

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Dash said:
@Steven_Swinford

Britain believes that the ceasefire needs to be extended to include Lebanon and has described Israeli strikes as 'completely wrong'

It's another point of tension with the US and Israel

Yvette Cooper, the foreign secretary: 'What Israel was doing yesterday with these strikes was completely wrong

'We've seen the mass displacement of civilians with significant humanitarian consequences

'This escalation is damaging, it is going in the wrong direction. We want the ceasefire extended to cover Lebanon'

@bonchieredstate

Britain and France are now openly siding with Iran and allowing it to dictate the terms for Hezbollah.

This whole ally thing is going just great.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042189319469724141
View: https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/2042189319469724141
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why wouldn't Iran try to dictate terms for Hezbollah in Lebanon?

They're the Iranian's little lap-dog--always have been.

Even the Lebanese PRESIDENT was praising Israel for coming in and removing a pariah in their midst that they couldn't even dislodge themselves--even the LEBANESE want to be FREE of these fanatical parasites.
 
Countrymouse

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Cascadians said:
I read that Pakistan actually gave a different agreement to the USA than Iran. Literally different altogether.
At this point how could anybody trust any jihater? What a mess. Who knows what is true anymore.
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EXACTLY.

And this is why I keep PRAYING that Trump will NOT send our VP Vance, Witkoff, and (his son-in-law!) Kushner to Pakistan.

This is a PERFECT opportunity for Iran & Pakistan to KIDNAP and hold hostage these men (and how they would LOVE to have Trump's JEWISH Son-in-Law!) for ransom against US capitulation to their demands.

I do NOT put it past them.

They'd justify it on grounds of "Well, you killed OUR Supreme Leader---now we have some of YOURS."

This from Nantanya Naftali (Israeli journalist):

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Hananya Naftali - Israel News

Pakistan’s “peace negotiations” hosting US-Iran talks in Islamabad is a total scam. Same country that refuses to recognize Israel, shelters terrorists & plays both sides with Iran/China. History proves it: they talk peace, fund jihad.
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Plus Pakistan is a KNOWN nuclear-weapons country.

If THEY kidnap/hold our officials---

Then you ARE looking at WW III.

They'll think they have us in a hole we CAN'T get out of--and will HAVE to knuckle under and bow down to them.

I PRAY something will happen that will change Trump's mind about sending them over there.
 
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mecoastie said:
As Iran is not a party to the treaty they are not bound by it for their territorial waters. Historically they have allowed passage but obviously that changed. At the narrowest point the shipping lanes are in Omani waters. Now by mining or at least claiming to mine Omani waters to force ships passage through Iranian waters violates a ton of laws but they have been able to control it for a month and a half and nobody has been able to stop it. We have come up with a slew of excuses and reasons why the US can’t do it and the rest of the world can’t do it either. Until that dynamic changes they choke a vital shipping passage and the whole world pays for it.
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IMHO it is not about terminology like "treaties" the UN this or that, it is about the ability to control. Iran has that. At least until "Control" is wrestled back to other bodies, US, UN, EU, Boy Scouts, etc.....

Kind of like "murder" it is illegal to murder someone, yet in happens in every country in the world everyday.
 
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I wouldn’t trust Pakistan to secure a paper bag. I don’t have a good feeling about these talks taking place in Islamabad.
@phildstewart

(Reuters) - Pakistani authorities have locked down the capital Islamabad in anticipation of the war's first peace talks, cutting off all access to a 3-km (2-mile) zone around the five-star luxury Serena Hotel. Both the U.S. and Iranian delegations are expected to stay at the hotel, which told all guests to check out until Sunday as it had been "requisitioned" for "an important event".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042216256632148129
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James E. Thorne

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Food for thought. In The Prince, Machiavelli teaches that a ruler’s first duty is to secure the state, even if that means speaking and acting in ways that shock polite society. He warns that “men in general judge more from appearances than from reality,” and that a successful prince must be judged on the effects of his words, not on whether they conform to genteel norms.

Trump’s recent language toward the Iranian regime is not a lapse of self‑control; it is a calculated act of deterrence aimed squarely at the leaders of a state‑sponsored terrorist apparatus. He is negotiating through intimidation, signalling resolve, ruthlessness, and a willingness either to send Iran “back to the Stone Ages” or to ensure that “a whole civilization will die tonight” in terms that pierce the bubble of diplomatic euphemism and force the IRGC command to reassess its risk tolerance. In that sense, Trump is acting far closer to Machiavelli’s prince than to a modern liberal statesman: he is willing to appear vulgar, even “unhinged,” if doing so strengthens the fear of his threats in the minds of his adversaries.

What is striking is not that a leader dealing with such a regime would use this language, but that so many in the West seem genuinely unable, or unwilling, to recognize the strategy. They clutch their pearls about tone while ignoring the basic logic of coercive diplomacy: when you want to stop a hostile regime and its terrorist proxies from further escalation, you must shape their expectations, not placate your own commentariat. Machiavelli’s blunt counsel is that a prince must sometimes speak as both “man and beast,” combining law with the language of force to protect his people.

One is left wondering whether our political and media classes have forgotten the oldest lessons of statecraft. Has no one read The Prince?


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5:26 PM · Apr 8, 2026
 
Countrymouse

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mecoastie said:
As Iran is not a party to the treaty they are not bound by it for their territorial waters. Historically they have allowed passage but obviously that changed. At the narrowest point the shipping lanes are in Omani waters. Now by mining or at least claiming to mine Omani waters to force ships passage through Iranian waters violates a ton of laws but they have been able to control it for a month and a half and nobody has been able to stop it. We have come up with a slew of excuses and reasons why the US can’t do it and the rest of the world can’t do it either. Until that dynamic changes they choke a vital shipping passage and the whole world pays for it.
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True:

But they've never DARED to step out of line enough to hold the WORLD hostage--as they are doing now--before.

Since all the leaders of Europe are running around wringing their hands trying to find their lost balls, it appears to fall upon the leaders of the only two stand-up-for-what-is-right countries left (the US & Israel) to do something about it.

At least Oman has made it clear THEY are not in alliance with Iran's lawless ways--and NOTE that it was the OMANI SIDE OF THE STRAIT that IRAN has MINED---so IRAN placed mines in ANOTHER COUNTRY'S Territorial Waters--to FORCE shipping into their OWN Territorial Waters (and pay the "Bribe" to get through):

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Amir Tsarfati

Omani Transport Minister: Regarding the Strait of Hormuz, Oman's position is clear: Oman has signed all international agreements related to maritime transport. The Strait of Hormuz is a natural passage, not created by human intervention, and therefore, no fees can be imposed on it according...
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Countrymouse

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Dash said:
I wouldn’t trust Pakistan to secure a paper bag. I don’t have a good feeling about these talks taking place in Islamabad.
@phildstewart

(Reuters) - Pakistani authorities have locked down the capital Islamabad in anticipation of the war's first peace talks, cutting off all access to a 3-km (2-mile) zone around the five-star luxury Serena Hotel. Both the U.S. and Iranian delegations are expected to stay at the hotel, which told all guests to check out until Sunday as it had been "requisitioned" for "an important event".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2042216256632148129
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Oh dear God PLEASE don't let our delegation go into that TRAP!

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Amir Tsarfati

Irans ambassador to Pakistan, Reza Amiri Moghadam: Despite skepticism of Iranian public opinion due to repeated ceasefire violations by Israeli regime to sabotage the diplomatic initiative, invited by Hon. PM Shehbaz Sharif, Iranian delegation arrives tonight in Islamabad for serious talks...
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