POL Initially seeming possible ASSASSINATION attempt on Pres. Trump

MinnesotaSmith

MinnesotaSmith

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Note that the Secret Service left a possible IED within lethal blast range of the President for a long time.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/scary-...iles-launched-at-trump-as-he-takes-the-stage/

Scary Moment at NRA Convention as Cell Phone, Other Projectiles Launched at Trump as He Takes the Stage
BY PAULA BOLYARD APRIL 26, 2019 220 COMMENTS

"Shortly after President Trump took the stage to address the National Rifle Association convention on Friday, a man in the audience launched a cell phone that landed just feet away from the president as he stood near the podium greeting the crowd.

Secret Service hauled the man, later identified as William Rose, out of Lucas Oil Stadium and arrested him. According to law enforcement officials, the man was intoxicated at the time of his arrest.

In a statement to Fox News, the Secret Service said, "At approximately 12:30 p.m. (ET) today, President Trump was at an event in Indianapolis, IN. As the President was walking onto the stage, but prior to his remarks, a cell phone from the crowd landed on the opposite side of the stage. An individual was removed from the event and the investigation is continuing."

Bradley Brewer, who was in attendance at the convention, caught the moment on video:

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Bradley Brewer
@realBradBrewer
#BREAKING: A phone was thrown at @realDonaldTrump during his introduction at the @NRA convention.

The individual was swiftly arrested and the President continued with no problem.


The phone actually sailed over my head before landing on the stage. It's highlighted in the image below:




The podium is just off camera to the left.

I was surprised that the phone was left on the stage throughout Trump's speech. What if, God forbid, it had been an IED? Perhaps Secret Service reasoned that the phone had been through the security checkpoint, but I was a little nervous about the fact that the phone was not removed:

Paula Bolyard
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Someone threw what appears to be a cell phone onto the stage with POTUS. Surprised security hasn't removed it. A little unnerving... #NRAAM

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Townhall's Katie Pavlich noted that it took the Secret Service a couple of minutes to corral the man, who was wandering around in front of the stage carrying a Mtn. Dew.



@KatiePavlich
A man threw a cell phone on stage when President Trump walked out for his @nra speech. He threw it stage left, while POTUS was closer to stage right. The man hung around up front for a few minutes, carrying Mt. Dew, as POTUS started remarks and then Secret Service removed him.

The episode recalled a 2008 incident when an Iraqi journalist threw a shoe at President Bush, just missing his head.

Trump, for his part, seemed undeterred by the projectiles and the speech went on without incident.

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The phone actually sailed over my head before landing on the stage. It's highlighted in the image below:

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Paula Bolyard
@pbolyard
Someone threw what appears to be a cell phone onto the stage with POTUS. Surprised security hasn't removed it. A little unnerving... #NRAAM

- Apr 26, 2019


At around the same time, a second individual in the crowd threw what appeared to be money at the president. The video is blurry, but you can see the projectiles being launched at the president at around the 1:33 mark.

The episode recalled a 2008 incident when an Iraqi journalist threw a shoe at President Bush, just missing his head.

Trump, for his part, seemed undeterred by the projectiles and the speech went on without incident."
 
jward

jward

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I don't know what the potential capabilities are, but I have some idea of how desperate people are to see him go away.
Frankly, I don't know how he's able to survive virtually the whole world wanting him dead.
 
homecanner1

homecanner1

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could have been set to explode with C-4, jesus

phones are absolutely ubiquitous at all these events, everyone streaming or pics for facebook, selfies with the stage as backdrop

will phones be banned at rallies????

absolute breach of security, should have been kicked off the stage to the side ASAP

same as the woman rushing his limo topless in Paris for the WW1 centennary.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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When I saw the vid a couple days ago, I just smiled, thinking “Dumbass.” But reading this thread, I realize for the first time that the phone could have been loaded with plastique (perhaps it was a dry run). It’s starting to get sporty out there....
 
Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior

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I think alot of people don't realize how desperate these coup big wigs really are >>>> they attempted the first ever USA political power takeover - first corrupt the election process and then an unseating of a duly elected POTUS by the people ....

there's power hungry elites that are not only going to prison but lose EVERYTHING >>> they are the Kennedys & Clintons & Bushes that are building a family dynasty ....

the whole complete investigation stops dead and just disappears if Trump goes away >>>> one way or another ....

DESPERATION
 
homecanner1

homecanner1

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Doz, am edgy about the POTUS rally up in Green Bay at 4 pm today, was so tempted to try to go but we are under a huge snowstorm watch 6-12 inches here in central Wisc, 2-4 in Milwaukee, LaCrosse may get a foot they say. Attendees need to be alert to road conditions as situation deteriorates and will be very cold to stand outside waiting for security, dress warmly!
 
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Witness

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If the President has a rally anywhere near me, I will go.
I will not let the socialist/fascists intimidate or threaten me.
GOD BLESS President Donald Trump & his family & supporters.
 
CaryC

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SB said the link didn't work for her, and it didn't for me either.

You can go to amazon and just paste in the book in the search and it will come up.

Note the following:

Editorial Reviews
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Going to try another link:

https://www.amazon.com/Rodney-Howar...rica&qid=1556376828&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmrnull
 
Satanta

Satanta

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I can see more potential danger from it being used a some sort of homing device. Anyone here actually used any form of C-4 or other compact HE type material? I'm thinking that, inside of a cellphone-even removing a few unneded components there would not be much room-especially in a modenr flat Icopy-I take them apart all the time, not a lot of room in there and one or two very small wires will render it inoperable much less useful as a timed or impact IED device by itself.
 
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Dozdoats

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Some of the current liquid explosives are more brisant than C4 or RDX, but an antipersonnel IED would need some kind of shrapnel to be effective beyond a short range. Modern hand grenades use a notched square wire layer on the outside for shrapnel -

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Caplock50

Caplock50

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If I recall correctly(remembering from the late 70s), 2 pounds of C-4 in a 'shape charge' will blast a 20foot deep posthole. Combat Engineers get to 'play' with such stuff...but 40+years kinda 'dims' the memories...
 
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Bumblepuff

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"I'm thankful nothing happened to President Trump when the phone landed on stage.
It could have been worse. Imagine the pandemonium in the audience if a phone was
blasting out a recording of the song 'Baby Shark'. I'm still recovering with therapy."​
 
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vestige

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L.A.B. said:
A phone is a homing device...

And I guess that contingent of SS just drones.
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My thoughts exactly. That's why I said SS should have thrown it.

The quantity of explosive that could be contained in a cell phone would make a pretty good bang but it would be difficult to inconspicuously "wrap" it with enough flechettes or whatever to make it very effective.

The homing device aspect is more worrisome.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
vestige said:
My thoughts exactly. That's why I said SS should have thrown it.

The quantity of explosive that could be contained in a cell phone would make a pretty good bang but it would be difficult to inconspicuously "wrap" it with enough flechettes or whatever to make it very effective.

The homing device aspect is more worrisome.
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In the case of a potential IED, we can never 2nd guess the kill-potential.

It could be explosive force with shrapnel, it could be toxic gas, smoke, or a squib charge dispersing any number or type of bio’s.

I will be pleasantly surprised if in the future cell phone at CIC F2F events are NIXED!
 
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privatemom

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Please pray for our President today. Where he is going to rally tonight is a VERY hostile area. LOTS of folks in GB are rabid Trump haters. They are not just suffering from tds - they are down right rabid. I wish I could go.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
privatemom, what, or should I say where is GB?

ETA: Found in [ALT] DJT is headed to Great Britain...
 
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homecanner1

homecanner1

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the doors open at 4, rally is later. the storm is tracking more southward towards Illinois/Chicago, so we may get spared. air was thick with flakes earlier

I hear ya on some hostile union turf. he will pull a more Appleton demographic who will drive in. Nobody should be tolerated throwing *anything* at him.

looks like a huge line up, some pics here from 3 pm, lots of warm hats n hoods.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...wn-county-republican-politics-gop/3567255002/
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
tanstaafl said:
That would be in Wisconsin, in case your old geography classes didn't take.
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Not to insult the topography of greater Green Bay. But all we every hear about Wisconsin in CA is The Cheese if we’re not football fans.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
homecanner1 said:
the doors open at 4, rally is later. the storm is tracking more southward towards Illinois/Chicago, so we may get spared. air was thick with flakes earlier

I hear ya on some hostile union turf. he will pull a more Appleton demographic who will drive in. Nobody should be tolerated throwing *anything* at him.

looks like a huge line up, some pics here from 3 pm, lots of warm hats n hoods.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...wn-county-republican-politics-gop/3567255002/
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Appleton... Yes I used to receive a NA magazine from there from the society.
 
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NumberOneSon

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I was looking over the pic of the President and to me, for some reason, it looked like it wasn't actually him. Might be just the angle or the pixelation, but it legit to me seems off somehow...
 
AlfaMan

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If someone wanted to use a cellphone as an explosive device, you wouldn't want to use C-4 as the explosive. Something that would work better is Deta Sheet-now sold as Prima Sheet. It's 1/4" thick, same brisance as C-4 (think that's 22,000 FPS but pulling from memory) and can be fired using a primer cap stored inside the phone (use the Deta Sheet as the outer/back cover as the phone-the texture would mimic the rubberized back panel of some phones quite effectively). A cellphone sized piece of Deta Sheet would be enough to cut a man in half. A briefcase sized piece of Deta Sheet will level a 10' x 30' shed.

The SS probably left the phone be because there were white noise type signal generators in the room .Signal generators that would disrupt cell signals. The threat would have been from the projectile capabilities of the phone; the occupant pre screening would have caught traces of explosives should they have been brought in. Or gasoline, diesel or other accelerant types.
 
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Dozdoats

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A cellphone sized piece of Deta Sheet would be enough to cut a man in half

From how far out of contact distance?
 
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Housecarl

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Illini Warrior said:
I think alot of people don't realize how desperate these coup big wigs really are >>>> they attempted the first ever USA political power takeover - first corrupt the election process and then an unseating of a duly elected POTUS by the people ....

there's power hungry elites that are not only going to prison but lose EVERYTHING >>> they are the Kennedys & Clintons & Bushes that are building a family dynasty ....

the whole complete investigation stops dead and just disappears if Trump goes away >>>> one way or another ....

DESPERATION
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You're forgetting the Newburgh Plot of 1783, Gen Sinclair's seditious activities, the Booth Plot that did kill Lincoln and wound several others, and the Business' or Bankers' Plot against FDR. Also arguably the assassination of JFK....
 
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Housecarl

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Also if you consider the volume taken up by those cases with the extended batteries (which I don't know if this phone had on it) the potential charge and fragments that could be involved would be a lot larger....
 
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Dozdoats

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Some years ago I knew a handful of folks who worked up protocols for explosive breaching....

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Explosions can be funny things. Funny as in strange …
 
Texican

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Dozdoats said:
Thank God it wasn't a shoe that was thrown... it might have been a SHOE BOMB - or a shoe phone - hell, it might have been a mini nuke.
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If mini nuke exists, you only have to get within a few hundred feet of the target....

Texican....
 
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