POL IF POLLS ARE RIGHT, DEMOCRATS ARE DOOMED

Doomer Doug

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Dominion's vote counters will have their work cut out for them. :kaid:


Stoddard: If Polls Are Right, Dems Are Doomed; If They're Wrong, It's Worse
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BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, OCT 11, 2021 - 09:40 PM
Authored by A.B.Stoddard via RealClearPolitics.com,
In less than three months, President Biden’s approval rating has tumbled from a remarkable position in a polarized nation to the lowest of all but two presidents since 1945. Democrats are panicked though refusing to course-correct, hoping the pandemic will retreat, the economy will rebound, and their agenda will pass through Congress and turn out to be popular down the line.


The standing of the party with voters, at this time, isn’t in doubt. It’s awful. Biden’s average job approval rating on July 20 was 52.4% in the RealClearPolitics average before tanking precipitously and taking the party’s fortunes with him as the delta variant surged and American troops withdrew from Afghanistan in a deadly and tragic exit. RCP currently has him at 43.3%. His approval in Gallup has dropped 13 points since June, six points in this last month. The latest Quinnipiac University poll had Biden’s approval/disapproval at 38/53, down four points in three weeks. Specific findings on leadership questions were dreadful, with Biden’s numbers falling since April by nine points on the question of whether he cares about average Americans, seven points on whether he is honest, and nine points on whether he has good leadership skills.


The latest Morning Consult/Politico findings from last week showed Biden’s approval underwater across the board, at 45% approval overall, at 40% on the economy, 44% on health care, 40% on national security, 33% on immigration and 36% on foreign policy. The only number not underwater was Biden’s COVID approval of 49%-46%, 30 points lower than it was last spring. Across all polling Biden’s approval on the questions of competence and accomplishment have suffered. And that Morning Consult/Politico survey stated, “The shares of independent and Democratic voters who say Biden has underperformed expectations have doubled over the past three months.”


The decline in COVID deaths, hospitalizations and infections and the disappearance of Afghanistan from the news has done nothing to stabilize the downward trajectory. In order for Democrats to stay competitive in the midterm elections, Biden’s approval would have to get back up to 50%-52%.
Low presidential approval ratings have correlated to significant losses for the president's party in the last four midterm elections of 2018, 2014, 2010 and 2006.

Meanwhile Republicans have narrowed the margin in the congressional generic ballot, and a September Morning Consult/Politico poll found “58% of GOP voters say they’re ‘extremely’ or ‘very’ enthusiastic to vote in the 2022 midterms, up 10 points since July.”


Even if their polling was good, Democrats face fierce headwinds next year: historical trends that favor the party out of power in the midterms in a president’s first term, a fragile four-seat margin in the House and no margin in the Senate, all of which can easily erase their congressional majorities, and redistricting maps that favor the GOP. In addition, the party is facing new liabilities in voter registration — it has lost registered voters in critical states in considerable numbers. The Hill reported registration is down for Democrats since 2019 in Florida by more than 200,000, in North Carolina by more than 135,000, and in Pennsylvania by more than 200,000. Democrats have seen marginal increases in party registration in Arizona and New Hampshire.

Yet while Democrats are bracing themselves for a wipeout at the ballot box next year, they may not know the true extent of their loss of support among voters. Polling before last year’s election, in which Biden only prevailed by fewer than 43,000 votes in three swing states, was the least accurate in 40 years.

Postmortem assessments are complicated and, largely, inconclusive. But several point to the likelihood that both Republican and Democratic polls — almost all of which favored Biden over President Trump — were off by an average of four percentage points; that most surveys likely oversampled liberal Democrats; that a surge of new voters could have contributed to the polling errors; and that Trump supporters were less likely to respond to pollsters because Trump repeatedly characterized them as “fake” or “suppression polls.” While 2022 will not be a presidential year, a study of 2020 polls by the American Association of Public Opinion Research found that “[t]he overstatement of the Democratic-Republican margin in polls was larger on average in senatorial and gubernatorial races compared to the Presidential contest. Last year Democrats poured record sums into Senate races in red states like Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and Iowa because the polling looked so promising — only to lose them all.


Certainly voter turnout can defy any polling predictions. But Democrats will have a rough time turning out their voters next year when the base of the party is likely to feel more disappointment than gratitude for the party’s accomplishments in 2021 and 2022, and the GOP base is likely to be highly energized.

A few weeks from now the first consequential bellwether election will take place in Virginia where former governor Terry McAuliffe, who is running again, is tied with Republican Glenn Youngkin in the polls. If McAuliffe pulls it out, Democrats will likely dismiss the scenario that polling around the rest of the country is portraying for them next year. They shouldn’t.

Much can happen in a year, Democrats hope for improvement in the economy and the pandemic, and a return on their far-reaching “infrastructure” agenda may materialize. Revelations from the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection may challenge GOP candidates trying to avoid any daylight between their campaigns and Trump. Trump’s war with the GOP, and his constant messaging to its voters that all elections are rigged, may cost the party substantial voter turnout in key districts or states.

But Democrats shouldn’t count on it. They should believe the polls and campaign like they do.
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jward

passin' thru
One of the most difficult aspects of this cluster **** is figuring out which laws they'll pretend to still follow, and which they'll break outright. Either way, I don't care about national elections (or polls) anymore.. I'm too gullible to risk offering my trust once it's been intentionally misused or abused.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
To put these poll numbers into perspective, all of these pollsters are definitely pro liberal and pro Democrat.

So the true voter sentiment is probably even more negative for Biden.

Of course, without serious election reforms it's pointless to vote.

I wonder if the real objective is to create the background for dumping Biden?
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Well GOOD!! It's well PAST the time for the Demon-O-craps to go by the way side.
 
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Sadly, it may not matter that much one way or another, it all depends on how many Congress Critters are on the take from lobbyists and big corporations/deep state backers. And by "on the take" I don't just mean outright bribes but officially "legal" stuff like campaign contributions, book "advances," lecture fees, and all sorts of other perks.

Or why most congress members leave Washington a lot richer than were when they got there.

Members of both parties play this game, I've said before I've thought since January 6th that Pence was promised at least a viable run or even victory in 2024 if he just "played ball" The Powers That Be, as we all know he did.

I've said before that they don't really care if Lady Gaga or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sings at the inauguration, as long as they view the occupant in the oval office to be someone who will pretty much follow their orders.

"The Flavor" of that occupant (either in congress or the Oval Office) can be light blue or pale pink, as long as they do as they are told (at least most of the time).

Presidents like Kennedy or Trump who don't follow orders, tend to end up having severe problems, sometimes even fatal ones.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
The Dems will remain the ruling class from 2020 until we decide to do something to ensure election integrity.
Declare another pandemic spike, close everything down, mail out ballots to everyone x10. Poof they win like magic. Just saw it happen again, in CA.

How To Steal An Election
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View: https://twitter.com/D_Alex_connect/status/1445175105072549891?t=fCwAkyHtfOKB_l50unuftA&s=19
 

jward

passin' thru
I expect the kabuki theatre to continue, complete with the illusion of a two party system. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see a "republican" win of significance, to reassure the country that we remain a vibrant democracy despite all those white domestic terrorists' conspiracy theories to the contrary!

They cannot continue to manage the optics, and us, unless they create this farce to keep us spun up and chasing shiny things and assorted rabbits

As I so simplistically, and so often, say: They're all on the same side, and IT AINT OURS.

The Dems will remain the ruling class from 2020 until we decide to do something to ensure election integrity.
 

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
The Demoncraps are running out of time. They've been outed. Too many people not buying into their bullshit and starting to pushback. The louder that the "F@ck Biden" chants get, the more tyrannical they will get. We are in the last round and they're playing for all the marbles.

Prepare accordingly.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
One could consider that ANY poll indicating Democratic weakness is to be pointed to by the MEEDIA when a Democratic Rout (i.e. fraudulent win) occurs in the next election.

"Gee - all those Trumpers must have been convinced they had this election in the bag - and stayed home. We said as much on perceived Biden unpopularity back as early as October 2021."

Just Dems opening the gate on "Plausible Deniability."

I wish they would put that intellectual chattel down...

Dobbin
 
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