WEATHER Hurricane Helene

Milk-maid

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Ann Vandersteel
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100'S OF DEAD BODIES DISCOVERED BY THE NATIONAL GUARD

Sadly the National Guard has discovered 100s of dead bodies that they are pulling out of the river that flooded the historic Biltmore village.

Images will be published as tastefully as can be done when I have received.

Operation Burning Edge is mobilizing and has acquired air assets but will need to fundraise for fuel.

American Made Foundation has agreed to help fund through their tax free donation link.

If you would like to support, you may do so here: https://americanmadefoundation.org/donate/

We already have members of our team in route to Asheville now. The operation will include on the ground reporting in tandem with supply distribution.

More developing...

1:58 PM · Oct 1, 2024

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841175941755617642
View: https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1841175941755617642
 
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Red Baron

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How much of this is being shown on the MSM?

It took me only about ten minutes of research.
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WBIR Channel 10
@wbir

We're in for the literal long haul, because NCDOT now says I-40 is going to be closed for "months" between TN and NC. The typical detour via I-26 was also washed away in Unicoi County, so there's no longer any direct interstate access between our states:

wbir.com

I-40 won't reopen any time soon between NC and TN, NCDOT says

Historic flooding in East Tennessee and North Carolina swept away a part of I-40 East near the state line on Friday.
wbir.com wbir.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841226428324495849
View: https://twitter.com/wbir/status/1841226428324495849
 
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packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
Milk-maid said:
Lisa
@Lisahudsonchow7

This is crazy!

This man was rescuing people off of the mountain. He was told by the fire chief that if he went back they would arrest him.

He had to leave the man alone on the mountain.

Listen! What is going on? Why are they turning help and supplies away? These victims have no water, food, or electricity. WHY?

Rt 4:33
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841142868380967093
View: https://twitter.com/Lisahudsonchow7/status/1841142868380967093
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FEMA and the Red Cross, that's why they cannot and will not stand for their glory being taken by others. These gov't asshats are as useful as tits on a bull.
 
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Murt

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Milk-maid said:
Oh, this makes my heart hurt... Thank God for those people who helped.

Kim Wexler's Ponytail
@MadisonKittay
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Sep 30

Hidden River Events in Swannanoa, NC, left their animals penned up to die in the floods.

They were rescued by a bridal party that was on the property. #Helene #ashevilleflooding

Rt 1:35
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1840628429072286064
View: https://twitter.com/MadisonKittay/status/1840628429072286064
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the fact that people would abandon their animals that way makes my heart hurt
 
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Marseydoats

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packyderms_wife said:
Don't believe all of the animal neglect videos that are making the rounds right now, most of the people that fled leaving their pets behind only had minutes, and I mean literally just a few minutes, to get out of harms way!
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And sadly, I fear some of my friends may have drowned trying to save their stock. Still a bunch of folks up around Marshall and Newland we've lost contact with.
I wouldn't have left my animals either though.
 
Lone_Hawk

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Red Baron said:
How much of this is being shown on the MSM?

It took me about ten minutes of research.
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WBIR Channel 10
@wbir

We're in for the literal long haul, because NCDOT now says I-40 is going to be closed for "months" between TN and NC. The typical detour via I-26 was also washed away in Unicoi County, so there's no longer any direct interstate access between our states:

wbir.com

I-40 won't reopen any time soon between NC and TN, NCDOT says

Historic flooding in East Tennessee and North Carolina swept away a part of I-40 East near the state line on Friday.
wbir.com wbir.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841226428324495849
View: https://twitter.com/wbir/status/1841226428324495849
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I saw an announcement yesterday evening that I-40 will be closed until 10/2025
 
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Murt

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packyderms_wife said:
Don't believe all of the animal neglect videos that are making the rounds right now, most of the people that fled leaving their pets behind only had minutes, and I mean literally just a few minutes, to get out of harms way!
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I know not all are possible to save
but I have seen too many times where people were so lazy or indifferent that their animals died a horrible miserable death
a bullet to the head would have been better
I tend to default to think the worse --shame on me but that comes from my experiences

sorry for the drift
 
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WHAT IS ARES ? (Amateur Radio Emergency Service)

FCC Licensed amateur radio operators who have voluntarily registered their qualifications and equipment, with the local ARES leadership, for communications duty in the public service when disaster strikes.
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South Carolina ARES Activated in Response to Hurricane Helene

Response Efforts to Hurricane Helene Continue
By Billy Irwin in Latest News, Uncategorized

Many of our dedicated volunteers have been working tirelessly, providing critical support ranging from radio operations at county EOCs to offering health and welfare communications for families, friends, and neighbors. This storm has tested us in ways many of us have never experienced before. I want to extend my heartfelt gratitude to each of you for continuing to serve your communities in any capacity you can.

As of now, the following frequencies are actively carrying traffic related to the Upstate of South Carolina and Western North Carolina:

146.61 -0.600 (Greenville, SC, Caesar’s Head)

145.190 -0.600 (Mt. Mitchell)

147.135 +0.600 (DCS disabled during disaster; Caesar’s Head Alternate in Greenville)

SCHEART is currently facilitating county-to-state communications and is also monitoring reports from any affected areas.

Information That May Be Useful to Track or Report:

Gas Station Status: Are stations open, do they have fuel, and can they process debit/credit card transactions?

Power Restoration: Are critical infrastructure facilities (e.g., hospitals, emergency services) restored? What is the status of traffic control on major highways?

Road Closures: Report major highways, bridges, and other key routes that are closed.

If you know anyone in need of a welfare check, please contact your net control station to determine if they are accepting that information and how to proceed.

I hope you all remain safe, and I pray for a swift recovery for you and your families. You are all in Nancy’s and my thoughts and prayers.

Best Wishes and 73,

Billy L. Irwin – K9oh
Assistant Section Manager – SKYWARN Program Manager
ARRL – South Carolina Section
 
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medic38572

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Red Baron said:
WHAT IS ARES ?

FCC Licensed amateur radio operators who have voluntarily registered their qualifications and equipment, with the local ARES leadership, for communications duty in the public service when disaster strikes.
-------------------------------------------------
South Carolina ARES Activated in Response to Hurricane Helene

Response Efforts to Hurricane Helene Continue
By Billy Irwin in Latest News, Uncategorized

Many of our dedicated volunteers have been working tirelessly, providing critical support ranging from radio operations at county EOCs to offering health and welfare communications for families, friends, and neighbors. This storm has tested us in ways many of us have never experienced before. I want to extend my heartfelt gratitude to each of you for continuing to serve your communities in any capacity you can.

As of now, the following frequencies are actively carrying traffic related to the Upstate of South Carolina and Western North Carolina:

146.61 -0.600 (Greenville, SC, Caesar’s Head)

145.190 -0.600 (Mt. Mitchell)

147.135 +0.600 (DCS disabled during disaster; Caesar’s Head Alternate in Greenville)

SCHEART is currently facilitating county-to-state communications and is also monitoring reports from any affected areas.

Information That May Be Useful to Track or Report:

Gas Station Status: Are stations open, do they have fuel, and can they process debit/credit card transactions?

Power Restoration: Are critical infrastructure facilities (e.g., hospitals, emergency services) restored? What is the status of traffic control on major highways?

Road Closures: Report major highways, bridges, and other key routes that are closed.

If you know anyone in need of a welfare check, please contact your net control station to determine if they are accepting that information and how to proceed.

I hope you all remain safe, and I pray for a swift recovery for you and your families. You are all in Nancy’s and my thoughts and prayers.

Best Wishes and 73,

Billy L. Irwin – K9oh
Assistant Section Manager – SKYWARN Program Manager
ARRL – South Carolina Section
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I have learned more about what is going on by listening here
US > North Carolina > Mecklenburg (County) [Charlotte]

W4HTP 145.350 Repeater

Temporary feed for N2GE 145.190 Mhz, Mt. Mitchell repeater for amateur radio hurricane emergency services. ---------------------- The Tower of Power, covering Charlotte Metro area amateur radio from 1500' AGL in Dallas NC.

Status: --------- Due to the hurricane devastation in WNC, this feed is currently on N2GE 145.190 at Mt. Mitchell because their feed is down. --------- The Tower of Power 145.350 is temporarily down for repairs.

www.broadcastify.com

W4HTP 145.350 Repeater Live Audio Feed

W4HTP 145.350 Repeater Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com
www.broadcastify.com www.broadcastify.com
 
Milk-maid

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Murt said:
I know not all are possible to save
but I have seen too many times where people were so lazy or indifferent that their animals died a horrible miserable death
a bullet to the head would have been better
I tend to default to think the worse --shame on me but that comes from my experiences

sorry for the drift
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And they could have opened the gates to their pens to let them flee to higher ground.
 
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Gold Dust

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Milk-maid said:
Lisa
@Lisahudsonchow7

This is crazy!

This man was rescuing people off of the mountain. He was told by the fire chief that if he went back they would arrest him.

He had to leave the man alone on the mountain.

Listen! What is going on? Why are they turning help and supplies away? These victims have no water, food, or electricity. WHY?

Rt 4:33
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841142868380967093
View: https://twitter.com/Lisahudsonchow7/status/1841142868380967093
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They did that with Katrina too....How dare they?" Who the hell is the fire chief anyway?
 
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I'll only say that flash floods can come so suddenly, so massively and so utterly without warning in those narrow hollers in between the hills that many were caught off guard. Horse and cattle owners do everything in their power to keep the creatures INSIDE fences, because being outside the pasture can be a death sentence... hit by cars, fall on the cement and break a leg...all sorts of dangers.

It takes a fundamental brain shift to open that gate and shoo them out (most times, you have to get "mean"... the animals equate "home" with "safety"). If you haven't game planned it ahead of time, or ever even thought of the possibility, you may default to normalcy bias and leave them "safe"... which sadly, wasn't.

I've had a few experiences, including leading my 16.3 hh (67" at the shoulder...not a small horse) Thoroughbred ex-race horse up our rural road in chest deep water, and having to mount a couple times so he could swim... all because of a gully washer that filled the narrow valley where my parents lived ... probably the creek was four feet higher than normal, which flooded a lot of land... all freshly seeded. Everything had to be redone that year.

And that same creek flowed through the barnyard at the old family farm, and periodically, it would flood and we'd have the fun of trying to force VERY reluctant cows across to be milked. This was especially fun when it's 4 am and you're out there in the driving rain with underpowered flashlights!

I cant imagine leaving stock behind, but I'm not going to judge those who did. It was a mostly unprecedented AND unforecasted (by our government experts, again...Ryan Hall was trying to warn about exactly what happened for 3 days), and many people don't even prep mentally ...not a single emergency plan in place.

Its tragic animals suffered for it.

Summerthyme
 
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Gold Dust

Veteran Member
Milk-maid said:
Oh, this makes my heart hurt... Thank God for those people who helped.

Kim Wexler's Ponytail
@MadisonKittay
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Sep 30

Hidden River Events in Swannanoa, NC, left their animals penned up to die in the floods.

They were rescued by a bridal party that was on the property. #Helene #ashevilleflooding

Rt 1:35
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1840628429072286064
View: https://twitter.com/MadisonKittay/status/1840628429072286064
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Hope those asshats get exactly what they deserve/
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
summerthyme said:
I'll only say that flash floods can come so suddenly, so massively and so utterly without warning in those narrow hollers in between the hills that many were caught off guard. Horse and cattle owners do everything in their power to keep the creatures INSIDE fences, because being outside the pasture can be a death sentence... hit by cars, fall on the cement and break a leg...all sorts of dangers.

It takes a fundamental brain shift to open that gate and shoo them out (most times, you have to get "mean"... the animals equate "home" with "safety"). If you haven't game planned it ahead of time, or ever even thought of the possibility, you may default to normalcy bias and leave them "safe"... which sadly, wasn't.

I've had a few experiences, including leading my 16.3 hh (67" at the shoulder...not a small horse) Thoroughbred ex-race horse up our rural road in chest deep water, and having to mount a couple times so he could swim... all because of a gully washer that filled the narrow valley where my parents lived ... probably the creek was four feet higher than normal, which flooded a lot of land... all freshly seeded. Everything had to be redone that year.

And that same creek flowed through the barnyard at the old family farm, and periodically, it would flood and we'd have the fun of trying to force VERY reluctant cows across to be milked. This was especially fun when it's 4 am and you're out there in the driving rain with underpowered flashlights!

I cant imagine leaving stock behind, but I'm not going to judge those who did. It was a mostly unprecedented AND unforecasted (by our government experts, again...Ryan Hall was trying to warn about exactly what happened for 3 days), and many people don't even prep mentally ...not a single emergency plan in place.

Its tragic animals suffered for it.

Summerthyme
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This and in spades! It’s easy for people to make judgments when they don’t have a damn clue as to what happened or the terrain it happened in. Here in Iowa you might have thirty minutes to evacuate, in those mountains maybe three to five minutes.
 
Cardinal

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packyderms_wife said:
Then you will probably drown if you are in a mountainous or very hilly area.

Part of prepping is making undesirable decisions ahead of time… there’s a reason it’s called survival of the fittest! There’s a reason why we talk about Darwin awards here at TBK.
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I think she is saying that were any evac order to be given, the dogs would go in the car with her.
 
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anna43

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Gold Dust said:
My animals are my family...they go with me.
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Or you die with them. Even taking the time to find and convince an animal to go with you might be the end of you. This was a FLASH FLOOD without warnings. It's rather difficult to load a herd of cattle or horses when you are fleeing for your life. Opening the gates might not have changed anything other than the animals being swept away. Going to higher ground is not necessarily an animal's response.

I would never criticize any person's response in such a life and death situation. You do not know how you'd respond until faced with that particular situation. I hope I would risk my life to save another human being, but I would not risk my life for a pet no matter how beloved.
 
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packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
packyderms_wife said:
I get that but it’s my understanding they had no warning, and those in town got about three minutes warning.
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We got about three minutes warning when the derecho tore through here a few years back. That gave me enough time to put on my boots, turn off certain electronics, and take Jr to the basement and by the time we got down there the power was off and the deafening sound of trees coming down was beyond the pale. And there was no flooding involved.
 
Countrymouse

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Red Baron said:
How much of this is being shown on the MSM?

It took me only about ten minutes of research.
----------
WBIR Channel 10
@wbir

We're in for the literal long haul, because NCDOT now says I-40 is going to be closed for "months" between TN and NC. The typical detour via I-26 was also washed away in Unicoi County, so there's no longer any direct interstate access between our states:

wbir.com

I-40 won't reopen any time soon between NC and TN, NCDOT says

Historic flooding in East Tennessee and North Carolina swept away a part of I-40 East near the state line on Friday.
wbir.com wbir.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841226428324495849
View: https://twitter.com/wbir/status/1841226428324495849
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An earlier post said it won't be open again until December....of 2025.

(4 m 58 s)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wSOoWvIwxA&t=256s
 
Melodi

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Those who have never experienced flash floods or fire storms (I've been in both) have no idea how fast these things can happen. If there is no warning, you may not have time to "Open the Gates" from your position. You might not even have time to save another bunch of people on the other side of the property you are standing on.

When faced with fire storms or sudden flash flooding, leaving the front door open is a good idea for pets (not for looting). Still, cats sometimes have miraculous abilities to survive by going up into trees or, in one case, inside a cast iron stove (unlit, of course). Dogs can also climb in emergencies. As Summertyme pointed out, horses and cattle often must be stampeded out of their safe areas, even when the front door is opened.

During a flash flood when I was a child, our horse rancher neighbors managed to open all the stalls, get themselves on horse back and herd them all to our house where we had a 10 foot fence. Seconds after they got out, the entire hillside smashed into the stables and the house. They missed all dying by moments. They had been away and managed to get home to jump out of the car and do this. A few moments delay, and they could only have watched or died with them.

The massive death toll of pets and livestock during the Paradise Fire (I had friends there) was because most people worked "down the hill" in Chico. There was no way back Up The Hill once the firestorm started, as the road was in the middle of the firestorm.

These days, after studies have shown that many people die because they won't leave their pets and livestock, most shelters are required to allow pets, at least in carriers, and great people and organizations tend to jump in to help with livestock.

This is the FIRST major disaster like this in the USA, and I have not spent time forwarding various addresses and the like of individuals, organizations, and shelters that would take pets. Also, sometimes, when people were in trouble, they could get on the internet but couldn't raise anyone local. I was doing this from Ireland.

One of the only "good" things I've seen in this disaster is the number of assurances that such and such a shelter will take pets and the enormous amount of outreach from wildlife centers and other animal rescues to temporarily take in lots of extra animals until their owners can care for them again.
 
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Gold Dust

Veteran Member
packyderms_wife said:
Then you will probably drown if you are in a mountainous or very hilly area.

Part of prepping is making undesirable decisions ahead of time… there’s a reason it’s called survival of the fittest! There’s a reason why we talk about Darwin awards here at TBK.
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I live in the mountains and there are no rivers near me. Maybe some shouldn't have animals...You are responsible for them...
 
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