CORONA Here's What Happened as a Result of Gov. Abbott's 'Neanderthal Thinking' About Mask Mandates

Jonas Parker

Hooligan

Here's What Happened as a Result of Gov. Abbott's 'Neanderthal Thinking' About Mask Mandates
BY RICK MORAN MAR 26, 2021 3:03 PM ET

ed4f8318-df79-4c99-9ad2-2c5e88bd2ecd-730x487.jpg
AP Photo/Evan Vucci

Earlier this month, Texas Governor Greg Abbott lifted the statewide mask mandate, and liberal heads promptly exploded. President Joe Biden called it “Neanderthal thinking,” tempting some to say “takes one to know one.” Public health experts were aghast. The media had a meltdown.

Fox News:
A Washington Post reporter reacted to Abbott’s decision by sharing an article from last September that a “mass casualty event” was happening every day in Texas. Another journalist called Abbott and people who agree with him “wingnuts,” and a liberal website declared Abbott, “showed that there is no limit to how far Republicans will go to kill people by lifting Texas’s mask mandate.”
But Abbott’s order, which went into effect March 10 and also gave businesses the option of going to 100 percent capacity, hasn’t stopped the downward trajectory of positive coronavirus tests. Fewer people are getting sick after Abbott gave Texas citizens the option of wearing a mask or not. Businesses also had the option of maintaining a mask requirement.

Lifting the mandate did not mean that Abbott was saying people couldn’t or shouldn’t wear a mask. But that’s the way that the governor’s political enemies portrayed the order. It turns out, the naysayers look pretty foolish at this point.
Despite the outrage, The Texas Department of State Health Services reported on Thursday that new coronavirus cases have declined since the mask mandate was lifted. The New York Times daily tracker shows Texas daily coronavirus cases are down 28 percent from two weeks ago.
Fox News contributor Guy Benson shared a variety of headlines from news organizations sounding the alarm on March 2. Newsweek focused on Texas Democrat Beto O’Rourke calling the decision a “death warrant for Texans,” a local ABC affiliate declared,” Model projections for Texas show worst-case scenario without mask mandate,” CNN editor-at-large Chris Cillizza wrote about Abbott’s “head-scratching, anti-science decision” and another headline declared Abbott’s decision could result in another coronavirus surge.
Why does it surprise anyone that, when using their own judgment, people can take care of themselves and their families? What is it about freedom of choice that these people hate so much?

While Texas is by no means out of the woods yet, it wouldn’t surprise anyone if the number of positive tests starts going back up, more people will wear masks. People are smart like that.

Meanwhile, is anyone going to apologize for getting hysterical about lifting the mask mandate?
White House press secretary Jen Psaki said, “The entire country has paid the price for political leaders who ignore the science,” and actor Matthews McConaughey even spoke out about his home state.
“I was a little dumbfounded by the decision,” McConaughey said on “CBS This Morning.” “I understand ‘go back to work.’ What I did not understand was ‘pull the mask mandate.'”
California Gov. Gavin Newsom called the move “absolutely reckless,” and Twitter was flooded with hot takes from people who called Abbott’s decision everything from “crazy” to “embarrassing.”
You can detect a pattern here. The less these “experts” trust ordinary people with a little freedom, the direr their predictions.

Of course, all of these doom and gloom forecasts will be forgotten in time. The idiots will never be called to account for their ignorance. And when the next issue comes along where people don’t “follow the science,” we’ll have to endure the same nonsense from the same sources.
 

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
AZ lifted their masks Thursday. I walked around the gym and quietly told everyone I could they didn't have to wear the mask if they didn't want to.

The desk people said nothing to no one. I asked. Otherwise, they would have stayed quiet about it. I was floored when they said the mandate was lifted.

Every person took their mask off when I told them it was optional. We are freaking sheep folks. I'm guessing 2% of the populace want to wear masks. Go for it! The rest were just following orders! Including myself.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
As I have said before, I am very (apparently VERY) blessed to live in my little Alaska town. They do not care at all if you are masked or not (and most are not). The numbers of positives state-wide keep declining...they cannot give away the "vaccine" to anyone anymore so it's open to all who want it here. But apparently all who want it have pretty much by now gotten the jab ....

I'll admit, I've always been a good hand-washer - I take XClear and all my vits as usual because I want all the tools available to keep my immune system strong. I keep active and get all the sunlight available ~ But there is no way on earth I'd take any vaccine currently offered. I don't even take the flu or pneumonia vaccines because I don't get sick. I just don't. Not judging anyone who does take these shots - it sure helped my dear Daddy and I'll always be thankful for that!

But this 2-tier system does not bode well for America. No jab? No job! Not vaccinated? Not traveling/shopping/visiting! Don't comply with MY truth? Then you're a hater and have no rights in this America.

Not sure where this will lead or where it will end but it's not looking real good ~~
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I read or heard somewhere that this bio weapon, if left alone, was going to disappear by the spring of 2021 in the US. That doesn't mean they won't put something else together, infect some people, and then drastically inflate the numbers.

I think my area is entering that window period. I'm going to get my teeth cleaned and get new eyeglasses, projects I've been putting off.
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As I have said before, I am very (apparently VERY) blessed to live in my little Alaska town. They do not care at all if you are masked or not (and most are not). The numbers of positives state-wide keep declining...they cannot give away the "vaccine" to anyone anymore so it's open to all who want it here. But apparently all who want it have pretty much by now gotten the jab ....

I'll admit, I've always been a good hand-washer - I take XClear and all my vits as usual because I want all the tools available to keep my immune system strong. I keep active and get all the sunlight available ~ But there is no way on earth I'd take any vaccine currently offered. I don't even take the flu or pneumonia vaccines because I don't get sick. I just don't. Not judging anyone who does take these shots - it sure helped my dear Daddy and I'll always be thankful for that!

But this 2-tier system does not bode well for America. No jab? No job! Not vaccinated? Not traveling/shopping/visiting! Don't comply with MY truth? Then you're a hater and have no rights in this America.

Not sure where this will lead or where it will end but it's not looking real good ~~

I get xclear mixed up with everclear

I had top switch to vodka

"no officer, thats not booze, its hand sanitizer, hic' :whistle:
 

summer-texan

Contributing Member
i read most of these ignorant comments. people making their comments and decisions while using zero data. since almost the beginning, i started a spreadsheet of the numbers, world, U.S. and texas. below are texas numbers. the texas number are from texas hhs.
so instead of making comments based on emotions and feel good made up crap, make decisions based on the truth. i only copied and pasted from 3/16. the numbers do go up.
i will paste the numbers again maybe around mid april.
geez, chill out. stop calling people names that do not agree with your political agenda. all you are doing is giving the ultra left ammunition for calling people on the right morons. i'm on the right, not the ultra right wingnut's.

Datenew casesdeaths
tu 3/16 6pm
46526​
1028​
we 3/17 7pm
107359​
1526​
th 3/18 6pm
659241​
14332​
fr 3/19 6pm
62824​
1713​
sa 3/20 11pm
63812​
988​
su 3/21 8pm
659641​
13123​
mo 3/22 11pm
55197​
631​
tu 3/23 10pm
643111​
11339​
we 3/24 9pm
660630​
11817​
th 3/25 6pm
678697​
12219​
fr 3/26 11pm
716396​
13151​
sa 3/27 11pm
733968​
12993​
 

Catnip

Veteran Member
The lemmings can't think for themselves now days, all of them have to be told what to do and when to do it.
All are a product of brainwashing from politicians, et al. Unfortunately, the most brainwashed are in the medical field. A shame because they ought to know better but the risk of losing their paycheck is overpowering.
 

Catnip

Veteran Member

Here's What Happened as a Result of Gov. Abbott's 'Neanderthal Thinking' About Mask Mandates
BY RICK MORAN MAR 26, 2021 3:03 PM ET

ed4f8318-df79-4c99-9ad2-2c5e88bd2ecd-730x487.jpg
AP Photo/Evan Vucci

Earlier this month, Texas Governor Greg Abbott lifted the statewide mask mandate, and liberal heads promptly exploded. President Joe Biden called it “Neanderthal thinking,” tempting some to say “takes one to know one.” Public health experts were aghast. The media had a meltdown.

Fox News:

But Abbott’s order, which went into effect March 10 and also gave businesses the option of going to 100 percent capacity, hasn’t stopped the downward trajectory of positive coronavirus tests. Fewer people are getting sick after Abbott gave Texas citizens the option of wearing a mask or not. Businesses also had the option of maintaining a mask requirement.

Lifting the mandate did not mean that Abbott was saying people couldn’t or shouldn’t wear a mask. But that’s the way that the governor’s political enemies portrayed the order. It turns out, the naysayers look pretty foolish at this point.

Why does it surprise anyone that, when using their own judgment, people can take care of themselves and their families? What is it about freedom of choice that these people hate so much?

While Texas is by no means out of the woods yet, it wouldn’t surprise anyone if the number of positive tests starts going back up, more people will wear masks. People are smart like that.

Meanwhile, is anyone going to apologize for getting hysterical about lifting the mask mandate?

You can detect a pattern here. The less these “experts” trust ordinary people with a little freedom, the direr their predictions.

Of course, all of these doom and gloom forecasts will be forgotten in time. The idiots will never be called to account for their ignorance. And when the next issue comes along where people don’t “follow the science,” we’ll have to endure the same nonsense from the same sources.
Most Americans have been educated to follow the law. Trouble is, they don't know the difference between a law and a mandate, which is not a law but a suggestion. No different than a mandate from a presidential candidate, who vows to follow their constituents' mandate, but most presidents never do.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
i read most of these ignorant comments. people making their comments and decisions while using zero data. since almost the beginning, i started a spreadsheet of the numbers, world, U.S. and texas. below are texas numbers. the texas number are from texas hhs.
so instead of making comments based on emotions and feel good made up crap, make decisions based on the truth. i only copied and pasted from 3/16. the numbers do go up.
i will paste the numbers again maybe around mid april.
geez, chill out. stop calling people names that do not agree with your political agenda. all you are doing is giving the ultra left ammunition for calling people on the right morons. i'm on the right, not the ultra right wingnut's.

Datenew casesdeaths
tu 3/16 6pm
46526​
1028​
we 3/17 7pm
107359​
1526​
th 3/18 6pm
659241​
14332​
fr 3/19 6pm
62824​
1713​
sa 3/20 11pm
63812​
988​
su 3/21 8pm
659641​
13123​
mo 3/22 11pm
55197​
631​
tu 3/23 10pm
643111​
11339​
we 3/24 9pm
660630​
11817​
th 3/25 6pm
678697​
12219​
fr 3/26 11pm
716396​
13151​
sa 3/27 11pm
733968​
12993​


I don't know what you posted but those are not Texas numbers. They are even too high for US numbers. Cases and deaths in Texas are indeed falling and have been for weeks.
 
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ohiohippie

Veteran Member
I read or heard somewhere that this bio weapon, if left alone, was going to disappear by the spring of 2021 in the US. That doesn't mean they won't put something else together, infect some people, and then drastically inflate the numbers.

I think my area is entering that window period. I'm going to get my teeth cleaned and get new eyeglasses, projects I've been putting off.
Ohio cases (I pay absolutely pay nahdah attention to) and hospitalizations are upticking.
Dewine is concerned but not worried.
My county of 13,500 pop. went from yellow to orange.
WHAT??? We only have 8 active cases. (We were down to 4) BUTTT that’s only an increase of 4.
8 cases and we go to orange???
I think he is mistaken.
Gallia county next to me has went to orange.
Seriously???
People are flocking to get vacs. We do not have a shortage in this area.
(Vacs are a personal decision that I respect in others that differ than mine)
My whole family and friends are on their first or have had their second.
So what is going on???
 
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Squib

Veteran Member
Ohio cases (I pay absolutely pay nahdah attention to) and hospitalizations are upticking.
Dewine is concerned but not worried.
My county of 13,500 pop. went from yellow to orange.
WHAT??? We only have 8 active cases. (We were down to 4) BUTTT that’s only an increase of 4.
8 cases and we go to orange???
I think he is mistaken.
Gallia county next to me has went to orange.
Seriously???
People are flocking to get vacs. We do not have a shortage in this area.
(Vacs are a personal decision that I respect in others that differ than mine)
My whole family and friends are on their first or have had their second.
So what is going on???

Well, good heavens, that a 100% increase right there.../sarc.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Ohio cases (I pay absolutely pay nahdah attention to) and hospitalizations are upticking.
Dewine is concerned but not worried.
My county of 13,500 pop. went from yellow to orange.
WHAT??? We only have 8 active cases. (We were down to 4) BUTTT that’s only an increase of 4.
8 cases and we go to orange???
I think he is mistaken.
Gallia county next to me has went to orange.
Seriously???
People are flocking to get vacs. We do not have a shortage in this area.
(Vacs are a personal decision that I respect in others that differ than mine)
My whole family and friends are on their first or have had their second.
So what is going on???

Sounds like you have virtually no community spread of the virus just like our county of 15,000 here in Illinois. Most likely all you are getting is someone infected from out of town stops someplace in your county for gas and gives it to the clerk or someone else or something similar. We now go 2-5 days with no new cases and then get 1 or 2 the next day. States use different numbers to decide where and when to change lockdown status. As posted above, a 1 day doubling of your 4 cases probably triggered the panic function of some government employee's computer. I think Indiana uses the percentage of positive tests in their decisions. Here in Illinois I think we use Gov. Prickster's secret formula no one knows or understands.
 

summer-texan

Contributing Member
I don't know what you posted but those are not Texas numbers. They are even too high for US numbers. Cases and deaths in Texas are indeed falling and have been for weeks.

my numbers are from texas HHS. below is the link.
on the right side of the screen, under case counts, is a link "accessible version (Excel)".
click on that link. then click on bottom tab "case and fatalities"

www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_ngm4TQ7wIVkgh9Ch3DIQysEAAYASAAEgLKJPD_BwE

here is the link for world numbers. first you see the world numbers.
then scroll down to the individual countries. USA is the first one you come to.

as a retired computer programmer, i was bored one day and i created a spreadsheet so i could keep track and update my friends as the pandemic started to get worse and no one i knew was paying attention to what a pandemic really was.
as the numbers started getting larger and then the deaths started to creep up to the total dead in all of our wars, i kept the spreadsheet up to date.
total war dead = 1,062,069(approx. vrious numbers of civil war dead) . 500,053 away from total war deaths.

have a nice day.
 
i read most of these ignorant comments. people making their comments and decisions while using zero data. since almost the beginning, i started a spreadsheet of the numbers, world, U.S. and texas. below are texas numbers. the texas number are from texas hhs.
so instead of making comments based on emotions and feel good made up crap, make decisions based on the truth. i only copied and pasted from 3/16. the numbers do go up.
i will paste the numbers again maybe around mid april.
geez, chill out. stop calling people names that do not agree with your political agenda. all you are doing is giving the ultra left ammunition for calling people on the right morons. i'm on the right, not the ultra right wingnut's.

Datenew casesdeaths
tu 3/16 6pm
46526​
1028​
we 3/17 7pm
107359​
1526​
th 3/18 6pm
659241​
14332​
fr 3/19 6pm
62824​
1713​
sa 3/20 11pm
63812​
988​
su 3/21 8pm
659641​
13123​
mo 3/22 11pm
55197​
631​
tu 3/23 10pm
643111​
11339​
we 3/24 9pm
660630​
11817​
th 3/25 6pm
678697​
12219​
fr 3/26 11pm
716396​
13151​
sa 3/27 11pm
733968​
12993​

Can you spell Border Crisis ala Resident Bidet? /s
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Here where I live, many are rushing to get the vaccines it seems. If I run into someone who wonders about me. I tell them that I am not getting the vaccine. And how everyday since this thing started, have been taking my vitamins twice a day and have remained completely and totally well every single day. Why ruin something that works. And no face diapers!

It seems how many are just pawns and followers of the big medical industrial complex!
 

poppy

Veteran Member
my numbers are from texas HHS. below is the link.
on the right side of the screen, under case counts, is a link "accessible version (Excel)".
click on that link. then click on bottom tab "case and fatalities"

www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_ngm4TQ7wIVkgh9Ch3DIQysEAAYASAAEgLKJPD_BwE

here is the link for world numbers. first you see the world numbers.
then scroll down to the individual countries. USA is the first one you come to.

as a retired computer programmer, i was bored one day and i created a spreadsheet so i could keep track and update my friends as the pandemic started to get worse and no one i knew was paying attention to what a pandemic really was.
as the numbers started getting larger and then the deaths started to creep up to the total dead in all of our wars, i kept the spreadsheet up to date.
total war dead = 1,062,069(approx. vrious numbers of civil war dead) . 500,053 away from total war deaths.

have a nice day.

I'm very familiar with Worldometers. I have checked it every day since its inception. My point is that Texas cases and deaths are decreasing, not going up. Click on the 7 day rolling average graph and see for yourself. Then compare the stats over time between states that locked down to those did not and show me where those that locked down did better than the others. Same applies to countries. All experienced the same rise and fall no matter what they did. Also be sure to check the daily test totals. You will notice more new cases are reported as new test numbers go up. Test more=more new cases. But even Fauci says many tests are false positive. Cases are rising in some other countries and all of those have very low vaccination rates so far. I hope the decreases are due to the vaccine but I won't take it. Look at Israel's stats. They jumped on the vaccines earlier than other countries and have vaccinated more of their population than anyone else. Over 50% I think last I looked. Their deaths and cases have dropped drastically. Deaths have gone from around 70 per day down to 12 and cases are also dropping, down from 8,000 a day to 600. Hopefully that is due to the vaccine.
 
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Sid Vicious

Veteran Member
i read most of these ignorant comments. people making their comments and decisions while using zero data. since almost the beginning, i started a spreadsheet of the numbers, world, U.S. and texas. below are texas numbers. the texas number are from texas hhs.
so instead of making comments based on emotions and feel good made up crap, make decisions based on the truth. i only copied and pasted from 3/16. the numbers do go up.
i will paste the numbers again maybe around mid april.
geez, chill out. stop calling people names that do not agree with your political agenda. all you are doing is giving the ultra left ammunition for calling people on the right morons. i'm on the right, not the ultra right wingnut's.

Datenew casesdeaths
tu 3/16 6pm
46526​
1028​
we 3/17 7pm
107359​
1526​
th 3/18 6pm
659241​
14332​
fr 3/19 6pm
62824​
1713​
sa 3/20 11pm
63812​
988​
su 3/21 8pm
659641​
13123​
mo 3/22 11pm
55197​
631​
tu 3/23 10pm
643111​
11339​
we 3/24 9pm
660630​
11817​
th 3/25 6pm
678697​
12219​
fr 3/26 11pm
716396​
13151​
sa 3/27 11pm
733968​
12993​

You might want to check your programming code or something...

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Stanb999

Inactive
my numbers are from texas HHS. below is the link.
on the right side of the screen, under case counts, is a link "accessible version (Excel)".
click on that link. then click on bottom tab "case and fatalities"

www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_ngm4TQ7wIVkgh9Ch3DIQysEAAYASAAEgLKJPD_BwE

here is the link for world numbers. first you see the world numbers.
then scroll down to the individual countries. USA is the first one you come to.

as a retired computer programmer, i was bored one day and i created a spreadsheet so i could keep track and update my friends as the pandemic started to get worse and no one i knew was paying attention to what a pandemic really was.
as the numbers started getting larger and then the deaths started to creep up to the total dead in all of our wars, i kept the spreadsheet up to date.
total war dead = 1,062,069(approx. vrious numbers of civil war dead) . 500,053 away from total war deaths.

have a nice day.


I love numbers. Here is a explanation of the testing numbers from the FDA.

Found here.



Remember that positive predictive value (PPV) varies with disease prevalence when interpreting results from diagnostic tests. PPV is the percent of positive test results that are true positives. As disease prevalence decreases, the percent of test results that are false positives increase.
  • For example, a test with 98% specificity would have a PPV of just over 80% in a population with 10% prevalence, meaning 20 out of 100 positive results would be false positives.
  • The same test would only have a PPV of approximately 30% in a population with 1% prevalence, meaning 70 out of 100 positive results would be false positives. This means that, in a population with 1% prevalence, only 30% of individuals with positive test results actually have the disease.
  • At 0.1% prevalence, the PPV would only be 4%, meaning that 96 out of 100 positive results would be false positives.
  • Health care providers should take the local prevalence into consideration when interpreting diagnostic test results.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
my numbers are from texas HHS. below is the link.
on the right side of the screen, under case counts, is a link "accessible version (Excel)".
click on that link. then click on bottom tab "case and fatalities"

www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_ngm4TQ7wIVkgh9Ch3DIQysEAAYASAAEgLKJPD_BwE

here is the link for world numbers. first you see the world numbers.
then scroll down to the individual countries. USA is the first one you come to.

as a retired computer programmer, i was bored one day and i created a spreadsheet so i could keep track and update my friends as the pandemic started to get worse and no one i knew was paying attention to what a pandemic really was.
as the numbers started getting larger and then the deaths started to creep up to the total dead in all of our wars, i kept the spreadsheet up to date.
total war dead = 1,062,069(approx. vrious numbers of civil war dead) . 500,053 away from total war deaths.

have a nice day.
Wow. I guess I'm really lucky living here in the boonies. Thanks for your data!
 
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