Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
And that costs money! The bigger chains wouldn't be spending it, unless they believe there is something in the wind and it's truly necessary. That's good enough for me!
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And that costs money! The bigger chains wouldn't be spending it, unless they believe there is something in the wind and it's truly necessary. That's good enough for me!
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I hope it's less than 90%. I do know a lot of the 20/30 - somethings have learned first-hand the value of having a pantry. The local "organizing" stores have reported selling loads of shelving and closet organizing systems over the spring and summer.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
That may have changed some in the last few months, but from what I have seen it seems low on the number of people who simply are not ready.
I have conversed with several young people re stocking their pantries. I have gotten mixed replies. Probably around 50/50 in my very limited sampling.
Many people, regardless of age, consider a freezer full of pizzas, pot pies and steaks adequate.
Freezers are wonderful as long as they work.
Most on the bad side of the 50 group cannot or will not cook from scratch.
Screwed they are
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Yet that freezer won't last them 3 days much less a week. Why? They won't be hungry enough to eat it all including the ice as we would. They won't cook beyond what the microwave will do. So that 50% that considers themselves stock really are not stocked.
No critique intended of your comments, but rather like that thread regarding the line in the sand, no one can agree what is stocked or not.
We on this forum would think anything less than 30 days to be not stocked. That is 30 days of eating and not 7 days of eating and 23 days of slowly starving as many would do.
Look at what people stock in their carts when they do weekly shopping. It fills a cart or two. Do we think they really have 4 times that at home? That would be needed to just make the 30 day window.
It would take whole rooms to make the 3-6 month target. A lot of the people in this forum can and do that on a regular basis, but we are a minority of a minority.
Rant off
SmithJ
Veteran Member
LOL, I consider the above 50 group “the bad side”
That's why the OP was discussing warehousing. Central locations that feed many stores.
The square footage needed to keep reserves for several hundred stores is mind boggling.
Beer a soda are high volume items that are supplied directly by the local vendor, not through the chain's warehouse/distribution system.
Not only that, beer & soda aren't critical items....OK, soda isn't.
20Gauge
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20Gauge
TB Fanatic
These days?That's why the OP was discussing warehousing. Central locations that feed many stores.
The square footage needed to keep reserves for several hundred stores is mind boggling.
Beer a soda are high volume items that are supplied directly by the local vendor, not through the chain's warehouse/distribution system.
Not only that, beer & soda aren't critical items....OK, soda isn't.
It will go faster than water.
Give the people choice of a case of water vs soda and they take the soda more often than not.
We have seen it here. Soda, wine and beer are gone long before water. Not that water lasts that much longer.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Not necessarily - if one can cook from scratch, this sort of arrangement can hold a lot of food! I had a better photo, but I can't find it now. Picture this space full of home canned stuff and dehydrated food.
Added: NOT MINE! I found this photo on the internet. I would never post my stock for op sec reasons.
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20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Again minority of a minority. We do the same. Though we use a 12 by 12 room.
My argument was based upon seeing shopping carts full. They usually are not basic cooking items. They are boxes of pizzas etc.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Yes, it does cost money and we did notice a price increase.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Thats because kids are at home alone learning online and a frozen pizza is way easier for them to make than say bake a whole chicken or fry some pork chops. Don't get me wrong at 9 years of age I could do just that but I was in the minority, had a classmate that could also cook from scratch, her mom died when she was 7 and her dad worked nights.
paul bunyan
Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
As a future potential War Lord, I relish the idea of setting up shop in one of these warehouses, especially if it is isolated and tactically defendable... Many good survival books have explored a template for setting up your private fiefdom.
This information is just for play and not based on reality. Use at your own risk, exemptions may apply, not legal in some states and cities and do not remove this tag under penalty of law... wheeeewwww and sigh
PS: I know of a large Walmart Warehouse in northern Utah that would be perfect War Lord Cave.
This information is just for play and not based on reality. Use at your own risk, exemptions may apply, not legal in some states and cities and do not remove this tag under penalty of law... wheeeewwww and sigh
PS: I know of a large Walmart Warehouse in northern Utah that would be perfect War Lord Cave.
NoDandy
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Very good use of space !! My complements !
But, you have a lot of unused floor space !!! Fill that up with case lots !
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
Don't expect this to be nationwide. Some states have "wearhouse" taxes. These taxes helped create and encourage JIT because they penalized sellers having any significant back stock.
It costs sellers to wearhouse inventory. They will only accept that cost if there is a potential for profit when they sell.
It costs sellers to wearhouse inventory. They will only accept that cost if there is a potential for profit when they sell.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
This is very true out on the east coast, not sure about the west coast though. WM and HyVee get tax breaks here for having warehouses in the state, as does Target and Fareway. This tends to piss the locals off but I say screw it at least there's food here in the state of Iowa. Those locals that get pissed off are liberals... never let an opportunity to tax something to death go to waste.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Not mine! That's a random photo from the Internet. I should have said so. I would never post a photo of my real storage for op sec reasons. I was just trying to show what can be done with a closet. Those shelves, if made from scrap lumber, would not be expensive.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
And that was part of my research in deciding to move here. I had folks who thought that I was absolutely crazy for moving to an area with fairly severe winters, but I was thinking of availability of water, food, work ethic, and things like that over beaches, bars, and the party scene. I look at the crap that's going on where I thought about moving and know I made the right choice, for now, at least.
Gib will tell you how much I miss walking on the beach, but in no way would I want to be on coast right now.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Big Creek has a really nice beach and club house, just saying... and lots of pretty sailboats, and an extra bonus is it isn't far from your location. I like going there to photograph the boats and for en plein air painting. But yeah, I'd rather be where I can grow food, and there's plenty of food available... all of the local veggie farmers is a huge bonus to living here.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
True! I'm just saying that this isn't Miami Beach. LOL!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Who in their right mind would want to live in Miami Beach! Yuck.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
After this weekends Market to Market Report and with china ramping up their sales of US grains I'm convinced we'll be in a hot war of some type with them by the end of 2021.
That's wholly dependent on who wins the election.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Agreed, I'm guessing Biden will just open the doors and tell the chicoms to just come and get it.
There are so many threats concerning food stock, availability, deliveries, pricing, stoppage of all imports and transportation nationwide.....will the W coast have a huge EQ soon? Will hired anarchists take out pivotal infrastructure? What's with weird weather, fires, floods, etc...........hail, pestilence? What about our own ability to grow?
Too many factors affecting us all..........I'm glad warehousing is filling up......but who gets the food? What must avg. American do to qualify for food help if all he$$ breaks open N, S, E, & W??
The war factor is staggering to think of..................whew
Too many factors affecting us all..........I'm glad warehousing is filling up......but who gets the food? What must avg. American do to qualify for food help if all he$$ breaks open N, S, E, & W??
The war factor is staggering to think of..................whew
kenny1659
Veteran Member
I was taught to cook because, "no one would be stupid enough to marry me". We just celebrated 28 years last Friday. I don't consider her stupid by any stretch of the imagination.
The ones who can pay for it will get it...just like always. Plan accordingly.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
I would think that some barely used malls would have local warehousing potential is the city could be convinced to reduce taxes.
COVID 19 illustrated how trucking could be disrupted. I understand some rails already are refusing to go into some cities. As the anarchy spreads and elevates, they may have some strategic plans to disrupt trucking and the highways and bridges. It would behoove cities to encourage local warehousing to provide some
siege protection.
COVID 19 illustrated how trucking could be disrupted. I understand some rails already are refusing to go into some cities. As the anarchy spreads and elevates, they may have some strategic plans to disrupt trucking and the highways and bridges. It would behoove cities to encourage local warehousing to provide some
siege protection.
Wal Mart is also battling Amazon they are stalking the crud out of stores and using them as warehouses to ship products out so they arrive sooner my Wally World gets in 2 general trucks and 2-3 food shipments usually just part of the truck daily . We ship out 3/4 to a full truck to fedex every day. Next time you are in the store see what the OGP people are picking. Not just groceries but toys hardware automotive and sporting goods items. (Online Grocery Products those annoying people pushing weird carts running all over store)
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Thanks! I thought that's who those people were. Thanks for the confirmation! The one I saw seemly highly focused on her list. I didn't want to interrupt her and ask. Glad that I didn't.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Wait are you saying that Amazon is using WM as a supply warehouse?
zookeeper9
Veteran Member
In my county, there are 3 new million square foot warehouses in the process of being built right now. The walls are up and they are working on the inside. Plus there is at least another million-plus empty square foot warehouse space in existing buildings. In addition, there is a planned warehouse complex that will have over 3 million square feet when finished in 5 years.
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
Will be reading the rest of the thread. Went to store today (Tom Thumb) and they were out of hormel bacon I buy.
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
Something else I noticed. In the last two weeks, wipes, sanitizer, tp, etc., are all in AMPLE supply and on big noticeable pallets in the front and on end caps. Still limited purchases, but it kinda jumped out at me as a dot. Like "lookie here what we have. Get it while you can."
Grouchy Granny
Deceased
Just spent most of today in the basement re-arranging shelves so I can get more preps in and decide what I still need.
Packed up 2 more shelves of books for storage and getting ready to cull the cookbooks again. Most of the cookbooks I'll never use so why keep them? My favorites and the ones I use all the time are already in a shelving unit in the kitchen.
Decisions, decisions, decisions - but my pantries look nothing like the one pictured... but then again, I went through really poor times and know how and what to stock up.
Packed up 2 more shelves of books for storage and getting ready to cull the cookbooks again. Most of the cookbooks I'll never use so why keep them? My favorites and the ones I use all the time are already in a shelving unit in the kitchen.
Decisions, decisions, decisions - but my pantries look nothing like the one pictured... but then again, I went through really poor times and know how and what to stock up.
mechanic 217
I was told there would be cookies!
I wonder if all the Walmarts and Sams clubs that were closed are turning into warehouses?