PacNorWest
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#257b
"Abby,I'm not going to be able to answer your question in the way you want. I am a trained soldier, and I protect the group as a whole, before individuals. If Mark, Gary, Milo or Toby gave me an order to guard the group, as opposed to you telling me not to; then I would not be able to honor your request.
If you or my family were involved, I might have to become physical to keep you from leaving the protection of the clan. As a man, there are certain things I do to keep my loved ones safe, that part of me is non-negotiable. Abby, we have come to this point before; what you call blind allegiance is me recognizing those with more experience, to guide me, my family and the group as a whole." Jerry looked straight at Abby, his resolve and confidence lying about his shoulders like a mantle.
"I don't understand totally." Abby tried to be truthful. "The idea that one man calls the shots for so many people is scary. Tell me, what happens when he gives a wrong order? Do you in obeisance to a given order follow a bad suggestion, or do you protest and face punishment.? My experience in this comes from Brother Jonas. His word was law, and boy did he have some stupid ones."
"Yes and no," Jerry was as truthful as he could be. "A stupid law is recognized by everyone as being stupid, and at that point it's up to the united body as a whole to disagree and refuse. I admire and follow both Mark and Gary, because of their vast experience in the art of war. You have no idea of the scope of the fighting experience those four men possess. They have trained together, and practically can read one another's mind. I follow them because I have confidence in their abilities. I realize that doesn't answer your question, but it's an individual situtation. It's unpredictable, because the dynamics are constantly shifting."
"Humm."
"Do you want to know something Abby?"
"Yeah, I guess so."
"You have these questions because you don't have confidence in my abilities. Somewhere along the line, you have come to the conclusion that you are stronger and more forceful than I am. That disappoints me greatly; but I am not going to give up my attitudes and behaviors because you believe you are better at assessing situations."
"When we met at Brother Jonas's camp. I was so impressed with your grit and stamina, and that was only reinforced when you squared me during the wolf attack. So sometime between then and now, you have come to believe I have a weak personality and weaker courage. This puts us pretty far apart Abby, I don't know if I can love, live, support and build a family with a woman that doesn't trust and support me in the same way." Jerry had to get up and pace off some of his suppressed frustration.
"Think on this tonight Abby. We might as well not go any further than right here, if you don't trust and respect me. I don't want or need a woman that can't give those qualities freely."
Jerry turned around and went to his wagon, he didn't want to be accused of pushing his ultamation on Abby, but there was no way he was going to be anything less than what God intended him to be. The rest was up to Abby.
"Abby,I'm not going to be able to answer your question in the way you want. I am a trained soldier, and I protect the group as a whole, before individuals. If Mark, Gary, Milo or Toby gave me an order to guard the group, as opposed to you telling me not to; then I would not be able to honor your request.
If you or my family were involved, I might have to become physical to keep you from leaving the protection of the clan. As a man, there are certain things I do to keep my loved ones safe, that part of me is non-negotiable. Abby, we have come to this point before; what you call blind allegiance is me recognizing those with more experience, to guide me, my family and the group as a whole." Jerry looked straight at Abby, his resolve and confidence lying about his shoulders like a mantle.
"I don't understand totally." Abby tried to be truthful. "The idea that one man calls the shots for so many people is scary. Tell me, what happens when he gives a wrong order? Do you in obeisance to a given order follow a bad suggestion, or do you protest and face punishment.? My experience in this comes from Brother Jonas. His word was law, and boy did he have some stupid ones."
"Yes and no," Jerry was as truthful as he could be. "A stupid law is recognized by everyone as being stupid, and at that point it's up to the united body as a whole to disagree and refuse. I admire and follow both Mark and Gary, because of their vast experience in the art of war. You have no idea of the scope of the fighting experience those four men possess. They have trained together, and practically can read one another's mind. I follow them because I have confidence in their abilities. I realize that doesn't answer your question, but it's an individual situtation. It's unpredictable, because the dynamics are constantly shifting."
"Humm."
"Do you want to know something Abby?"
"Yeah, I guess so."
"You have these questions because you don't have confidence in my abilities. Somewhere along the line, you have come to the conclusion that you are stronger and more forceful than I am. That disappoints me greatly; but I am not going to give up my attitudes and behaviors because you believe you are better at assessing situations."
"When we met at Brother Jonas's camp. I was so impressed with your grit and stamina, and that was only reinforced when you squared me during the wolf attack. So sometime between then and now, you have come to believe I have a weak personality and weaker courage. This puts us pretty far apart Abby, I don't know if I can love, live, support and build a family with a woman that doesn't trust and support me in the same way." Jerry had to get up and pace off some of his suppressed frustration.
"Think on this tonight Abby. We might as well not go any further than right here, if you don't trust and respect me. I don't want or need a woman that can't give those qualities freely."
Jerry turned around and went to his wagon, he didn't want to be accused of pushing his ultamation on Abby, but there was no way he was going to be anything less than what God intended him to be. The rest was up to Abby.