INTL Germany Will Deploy Troops for First Time Since World War II

jward

passin' thru

Germany Will Deploy Troops for First Time Since World War II​


Nick Mordowanec​



A new agreement between Germany and Lithuania will lead to German troops' first permanent foreign deployment since World War II.
The announcement was made Monday in Lithuania, where Defense Minister Arvydas Anusauskas met with his German counterpart, Boris Pistorius, to outline a multiyear "Roadmap Action Plan" involving approximately 4,800 permanently stationed German soldiers. Both officials called the move a historical moment not just for their nations but for NATO as well.

German troops, including those with families, will be stationed in the Lithuanian cities of Kaunas and Vilnius beginning in 2024, with most troops deployed in 2025 and 2026 and full-operation capability expected by 2027. In turn, Lithuania has committed to providing all necessary civilian and military infrastructure.

Glad to host my colleague Defence Minister Boris Pistorius and sign a roadmap outlining the intentions of both countries regarding the deployment of the brigade in and subsequent steps for its full deployment. #Bundeswehr #BrigadeLTU pic.twitter.com/W1TsgVxwdG
— Arvydas Anušauskas (@a_anusauskas) December 18, 2023

The agreement was originally announced in June, but no timeline was presented at that time.
"The German commitment of permanently stationing a brigade in Lithuania is a historical step for both Germany and Lithuania," Anusauskas said Monday, according to a press release. "We are turning over to a page of even deeper strategic partnership."
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He went on: "The German Brigade will significantly increase our defensive potential and enhance NATO deterrence and collective defense. The Roadmap signed today lays out in detail the track we and Germany will take to implement it."

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius greets soldiers as they return from Mali on December 15 in Wunstorf, Germany. On December 18, the German and Lithuanian defense ministries announced a long-term plan that includes deployment of nearly 5,000 German troops to Lithuania. Alexander Koerner/Getty Images

Pistorius said the move was a positive step in defense relations, considering the lengthy war between Ukraine and Russia, the latter of which borders Lithuania. Belarus, a close ally of Russia, also borders Lithuania.
"Germany understands clearly the new state of affairs in security politics: we are taking the role of leadership and responsibility in the [NATO] Alliance as we deploy a combat brigade in Lithuania," Pistorius said in the release. "We will ensure reliable deterrence and we will be ready to [defend] NATO. We are sending a clear signal with this step to those who present a threat to peace and security in Europe."

Newsweek reached out to both nations' defense ministries and NATO via email for comment.
The plan was formulated by experts within the two defense ministries. Most of the German troops will be stationed in the territory of Rūdninkai military training ground, while the rest will be deployed in the town of Rukla, where some 1,000 allied troops already reside.
Logistical hubs will cater to the new brigade, which will include three maneuver battalions in addition to combat support and supply units formed by new and existing units.

The 203rd Panzer Battalion, based in North Rhine-Westphalia, and the 122nd Armored Infantry Battalion, based in Bavaria, will be moved to Lithuania. Lithuania's enhanced Forward Presence Battalion Battle Group will be transformed into a multinational battalion to become "an integral part of the brigade," the release said.
Lithuanian lawmaker Laurynas Kasciunas, head of the parliamentary National Security and Defense Committee, said the country will allocate 0.3 percent of its gross domestic product over the next several years to help fund the deployment and to build housing, training grounds and other infrastructure for the German troops.

Taxes will likely have to be raised to accommodate this plan, he said.
Pistorius compared the agreement to the stationing of allied forces in West Germany during the Cold War to defend Western Europe in the event of a Soviet attack, according to Reuters.
In January, Germany was pressured by the United States and other Western allies to provide Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine for its defense efforts against Russian forces.

"The eastern flank has now moved to the east, and it's the duty of Germany to protect it," Pistorius said Monday during a joint press conference, Reuters reported.
He said the German soldiers and their families coming to Lithuania will have "attractive conditions," including German-language schools, kindergartens, housing and flight connections.

"The speed of the project clearly shows that Germany understood the new security reality," he added.
Anusauskas made it clear that Russia's aggression in Ukraine played a pivotal part in this new plan.
"We should expect not only good scenarios but also the very worst scenarios," he said. "So we must be ready.... Russia remains the main threat to us and NATO."


 

jward

passin' thru
I agree whole heartedly, and keep reminding myself that we've all read the book, and know how it turns out.
These are just the messy middle chapters we've got to get through before we get to the amazing part :: shrug ::
Cold comfort, some nights.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I'm so sick of these wars.

These aren't wars... Just skirmishes.

The last war was WWII. No limits, no concern over "collateral damage", no ceiling on the damage weapons could do ( in fact the more damage a weapon or tactic could do the better ). The goal in war was to kill so many of the enemy that they could no longer field effective fighting units.

We no longer know what war is...

... But we will.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
A new agreement between Germany and Lithuania will lead to German troops' first permanent foreign deployment since World War II.

The author of the Newsweek article seems to have forgotten about the long term deployment of a Luftwaffe training squadron in Arizona as well as the Heer and Luftwaffe deployments to Afghanistan.

Were those permanent?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Were those permanent?

The Luftwaffe training unit has been in Arizona since at least the 1960s and the Afghan deployment was a combat one for years as well. You may recall that early in the deployments the "people" at home got bent out of shape when they saw the German troops adding a variation of the Africa Korps insignia to their vehicles....
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The reason Russia is in Ukraine is because of the encroachment of NATO into immediate proximity to Russia which threatens their ability to defend themselves and survive. The lying bastards of the western world have shown that they want world domination. It does not take much smarts to figure out the stranglehold they planned for Russia.

So, what does NATO do? Bring Finland & Sweden in, support the militarization of Ukraine, nuclearize Poland, and now bring NATO forces into Lithuania. Watch- Latvia & Estonia are next on the plate for war.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
Germany couldn't send combat troops to the Middle East for the Desert Storm invasion of Kwait & Iraq - sent in FOX detection & decontamination teams for any of Saddam's chemical weapons ....
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
The reason Russia is in Ukraine is because of the encroachment of NATO into immediate proximity to Russia which threatens their ability to defend themselves and survive. The lying bastards of the western world have shown that they want world domination. It does not take much smarts to figure out the stranglehold they planned for Russia.

So, what does NATO do? Bring Finland & Sweden in, support the militarization of Ukraine, nuclearize Poland, and now bring NATO forces into Lithuania. Watch- Latvia & Estonia are next on the plate for war.

listen Chamberlain - even with US and NATO forces on the Ukraine border - dumbazz Putin STARTED the war he can't possibly win - now - he's getting desperate and wanting to expand the war >>> was 100% behind the attack on Israel and even negotiating with China for a WW3

maybe we should do a reenactment of pre-WW2 and just go ahead and sacrifice the countries Putin wants - he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>

try learning something about history and dictators that invade & conquer - need to be stopped with POWER & FORCE
 

subnet

Boot
listen Chamberlain - even with US and NATO forces on the Ukraine border - dumbazz Putin STARTED the war he can't possibly win - now - he's getting desperate and wanting to expand the war >>> was 100% behind the attack on Israel and even negotiating with China for a WW3

maybe we should do a reenactment of pre-WW2 and just go ahead and sacrifice the countries Putin wants - he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>

try learning something about history and dictators that invade & conquer - need to be stopped with POWER & FORCE
Lol "he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>"

Rotf bawahahah yeah right, because the uke which he could have annihilated (if he wanted), somehow leads to that.

I said it before ill say it again the uke is the equivilant of mexico to us, its their backdoor... if russia or china attempted to do what we/nato are, we would have done the same exact thing or worse. It would be foolish to allow themselves to be surrounded and russia isnt powerful enough to rebuild the ussr (as it stands), that is fear mongering/propaganda to say so.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
Lol "he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>"

Rotf bawahahah yeah right, because the uke which he could have annihilated (if he wanted), somehow leads to that.

I said it before ill say it again the uke is the equivilant of mexico to us, its their backdoor... if russia or china attempted to do what we/nato are, we would have done the same exact thing or worse. It would be foolish to allow themselves to be surrounded and russia isnt powerful enough to rebuild the ussr (as it stands), that is fear mongering/propaganda to say so.

Israel is in Putin's backyard? - Venezuela? - North Korea? - Iran? >>> all steps along with China and the Globalists to destabilize the World - destroy the US - make eazy pickings of what he wants ....

wait until Putin has NATO Japan on his right side ready for his buddy China to start their conquering >>>
 

subnet

Boot
Israel is in Putin's backyard? - Venezuela? - North Korea? - Iran? >>> all steps along with China and the Globalists to destabilize the World - destroy the US - make eazy pickings of what he wants ....

wait until Putin has NATO Japan on his right side ready for his buddy China to start their conquering >>>
No, i am specifcally talking the uke..now, as far as other issues and destabilization i have no argument as youre prob correct and yes if russia teamed up (which is why i qualified my comment with "as it stands") would be an issue.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
listen Chamberlain - even with US and NATO forces on the Ukraine border - dumbazz Putin STARTED the war he can't possibly win - now - he's getting desperate and wanting to expand the war >>> was 100% behind the attack on Israel and even negotiating with China for a WW3

maybe we should do a reenactment of pre-WW2 and just go ahead and sacrifice the countries Putin wants - he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>

try learning something about history and dictators that invade & conquer - need to be stopped with POWER & FORCE
You have some weird way of seeing things. Putin did not start this war, he is preventing WW3. But the demons pushing for WW3 are still at it. Putin could not wait any longer to defend Russia from the globalist cabal. Do you favor the United Nations, Illuminati club members, BillGates, Klaus Schwab, Anthony Fauci, Lindsey Graham, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barak & BigMike Obama as the rulers of the world? Is this what you are pushing for?

The Soviet Union is long gone.... but the USSR-US keeps fighting the dirty war. Name 3 people running our government that you trust. Name 3 agencies in America that you would swear allegiance to. Name 3 supreme court justices that you would trust with protecting your rights.

Name the one country that has started and engaged in the most wars (including non-declared military "policing actions") since 1960.
try learning something about history and dictators that invade & conquer - need to be stopped with POWER & FORCE
Go ahead... educate me.
 

Mongo

Veteran Member
There was basically a German training base on Ft Bliss, TX. Was there for decades. Not the same, but similar
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
The Luftwaffe training unit has been in Arizona since at least the 1960s and the Afghan deployment was a combat one for years as well. You may recall that early in the deployments the "people" at home got bent out of shape when they saw the German troops adding a variation of the Africa Korps insignia to their vehicles....

I don't remember that but I love the idea!
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Lol "he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>"

Rotf bawahahah yeah right, because the uke which he could have annihilated (if he wanted), somehow leads to that.

I said it before ill say it again the uke is the equivilant of mexico to us, its their backdoor... if russia or china attempted to do what we/nato are, we would have done the same exact thing or worse. It would be foolish to allow themselves to be surrounded and russia isnt powerful enough to rebuild the ussr (as it stands), that is fear mongering/propaganda to say so.

Exactly!

I mean... What right does Putin/Russia have to be nervous and offer pushback ( that Putin warned he would do )?

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The German Legislators had kittens until someone constituted a patch of ground in the AZ base as German diplomatic Property since the German Constitution REQUIRED training flights to begin AND END within the West German Territory.
 

john70

Veteran Member
listen Chamberlain - even with US and NATO forces on the Ukraine border - dumbazz Putin STARTED the war he can't possibly win - now - he's getting desperate and wanting to expand the war >>> was 100% behind the attack on Israel and even negotiating with China for a WW3

maybe we should do a reenactment of pre-WW2 and just go ahead and sacrifice the countries Putin wants - he just wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union >>>

try learning something about history and dictators that invade & conquer - need to be stopped with POWER & FORCE


so as i understand it

russian rockets 90 MILES OFF THE COAST of florida is worth going to war over

BUT

WE SEE NO reason for russia to go to war over

NEW NATO ROCKETS 90 FEET FROM RUSSIAN SOIL IN UCRANE
 
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