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Germany mulls bringing back compulsory national service

Berlin has said it's considering changing its position on conscription. The country is mulling new strategies to deal with possible security threats.

Date 23.08.2016

Germany's interior ministry is considering taking steps toward bringing back conscription, including compulsory service to support the military. This is according to a report by German news agency DPA, which had access to a confidential copy of a government draft proposal.

The proposal, which the government is set to be vote on Wednesday, comes as the government seeks to push forward a new concept for civilian defense, titled "Support of the Armed Forces."

Germany has been mulling new security strategies in light of recent terror attacks, as well as tensions over Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014. The new proposals are meant in part to prepare the country for the possibility of NATO actions to defend its borders.

Conscription was suspended across Germany five years ago.

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The draft proposal also takes into account the infrastructure and accommodations that will be required if compulsory service were to be reintroduced, including the building of lodgings such as barracks.

Military conscription was abolished in 2011 after 55 years, because the government at the time said there was no longer a need for it. However, compulsory military service is still a part of Germany's Basic Law, or constitution. Therefore, it can be easily reintroduced by the government.

Following a series of attacks in Germany in late July, Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann said the country should also consider deploying the army, or Bundeswehr, within Germany.

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The parliamentary representative in charge of the German military, Hans-Peter Bartels, said the unfolding debate was, however, merely hypothetical in nature and not part of an actual agenda.

"Conscription would only be considered if there was a grave, long-lasting situation of danger, such as was the case with the Cold War," he told the daily regional newspaper "Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung."

The parliamentary head of the leftwing "Die Linke" Party Jan Korte meanwhile criticized the government's rekindled debate on the issue, saying it wasn't interior minister Thomas de Maiziere's job to cause panic among the population with talk of conscription, referring to de Maiziere's draft proposal.

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Thomas Paine

Has No Life - Lives on TB
BOING! this is a big dot from several angles. Do they want a strong German army? What are they gonna do with a military full of radicalized muzzie immigrants? Disposable soldiers? You kids won't get it but as Artie Johnson's German soldier character used to say on Laugh In "Veerryy Interesting".
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Per Wiki, there's over 80 million people in Germany of whom....

Population background in Germany

Germans[45] (80.0%)

other Europeans (11.6%)

Turks (3.7%)

Asians (1.7%)

Africans (0.7%)

Americans (0.5%)

Others/unspecified (1.8%)

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Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Amazing, first they lead the invasion, then they build an army with them... I have no doubt that is what will be happening.... open door policy, take an oath (taquiya) then step up and get in line as we train you and arm you...
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
Amazing, first they lead the invasion, then they build an army with them... I have no doubt that is what will be happening.... open door policy, take an oath (taquiya) then step up and get in line as we train you and arm you...

Unless they think they are going to fight non muslims.

Why else would they join?
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
This is also interesting in light of the fact that Germany is currently advising citizens to stock up on food and water.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Germany sees 1939 again-and they're Poland this time. I don't think this is in reaction to their Muzzie invasion. I think this is more of a "Russia is heading our way" situation.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven

Housecarl

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Germany sees 1939 again-and they're Poland this time. I don't think this is in reaction to their Muzzie invasion. I think this is more of a "Russia is heading our way" situation.

Considering the current PTB have both brought in the Muslims, drawn down the military (in fact was all over on the force that got deployed to Afghanistan) and was pushing for better relations with Russia at the same time they were encouraging the mess in Ukraine I'm guessing (provided the next elections aren't rigged) that the replacement coalition is going to look to mend bridges with both Russia over the Ukraine mess and Poland to refocus from rattling sabers between Russia and NATO/EU to the security situation coming out of the MENA.

I recall the first editions of the book "Quick and Dirty Guide to War" (my copy is in storage right now) stated that the FGR had the economic power and personnel available to in a pinch field the same sized force (armor, mechanized, motorized/"leg" infantry) that the "prior regime" fielded but with modern gear. With reunification 20 years in the rear view mirror that's still the case. If you're not looking at a redux of Operation Barbarossa, that makes things all that more simpler.
 

Housecarl

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German Army To Train ‘Refugees’ Before Sending Them Back To Syria
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...n-refugees-before-sending-them-back-to-syria/

Are Islamists using the German military as training ground?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/muslims-using-german-military-as-a-training-ground-for-jihad

Report Suggests Radical Islamists Infiltrating German Military to Receive
Training

http://www.investigativeproject.org/5298/report-suggests-radical-islamists-infiltrating

The Germans have had a pretty significant training mission to the Kurds and have been supplying them out of old Heer stock (MG-3s, P-1s, G3s, Panzerfaust 3s, etc).

That then begs the question of which "refugees" they're training in Germany.
 
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