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FARM Georgia Deputy shoots baby donkey, while trespassing.
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King Samson
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That's how they're trying to make the officer the bad guy. Tell a story about how the donkey was bottle fed, and liked to get petted...
None of that matters, and the LEO would never know that, in the heat of the battle, in darkness, when a unknow animal comes screaching at you.
The MSM adding that "extra" detail, to help twist up the "Court of Public Opinion", is just to trigger an emotional response, and after reading the responses just here, it worked!
They had the K9s following a scent for a missing person. They don't stop for a chat with the residents, in the middle of an operation.
In complete darkness, with a couple hundred pound "animal" coming at you, he's NOT thinking friendly Labrador. Plus, his job is to also protect the K9s from injury, and this "something" in the dark, was way bigger than the bloodhounds.
Weight of Miniature Donkeys
Miniature donkeys have a specific weight range that defines their size category.Typical Weight Range
- Minimum Weight: 200 pounds
- Maximum Weight: 450 pounds
- Average Weight: Approximately 250 to 300 pounds
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King Samson
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More: Remember, this was like 1 AM in the morning.... in the dark pasture...
....."The Daily Mail reviewed an incident report on Thursday, which stated that Cedartown Police Department Officer Trenton Garner was the ‘man’ who fatally shot a donkey named Heehaw. He had been called to assist a bloodhound team that was searching for a missing 12-year-old girl.
The report goes on to say that due to the “exigency of locating this missing juvenile,” the police officers entered a pasture owned by Elsberry Riding and Farm. This local business offers petting zoos, pony rides, and trail rides.
They were met by horses that became scared and ran away into the pasture. Garner then claimed Heehaw charged at them.
The K-9 handler then tased the animal. When that allegedly failed to work, Garner took out his Glock 17 and proceeded to shoot the donkey.
Per the report, Garner said this was the only way to protect himself, the K-9 officer, and the team of bloodhounds from Heehaw. Garner later stated that he informed his sergeant and the animal’s owner.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
....."The Daily Mail reviewed an incident report on Thursday, which stated that Cedartown Police Department Officer Trenton Garner was the ‘man’ who fatally shot a donkey named Heehaw. He had been called to assist a bloodhound team that was searching for a missing 12-year-old girl.
The report goes on to say that due to the “exigency of locating this missing juvenile,” the police officers entered a pasture owned by Elsberry Riding and Farm. This local business offers petting zoos, pony rides, and trail rides.
They were met by horses that became scared and ran away into the pasture. Garner then claimed Heehaw charged at them.
The K-9 handler then tased the animal. When that allegedly failed to work, Garner took out his Glock 17 and proceeded to shoot the donkey.
Per the report, Garner said this was the only way to protect himself, the K-9 officer, and the team of bloodhounds from Heehaw. Garner later stated that he informed his sergeant and the animal’s owner.
Report Reveals the Georgia Cop Who Killed Family’s Adorable Baby Donkey and His Stated ‘Reason’ for Taking the Animal’s Life * The Gateway Pundit * by Cullen Linebarger
The cowardly Georgia police officer who killed a poor baby donkey has been officially revealed, and he is sharing his excuse for pulling the trigger.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
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Doc1
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King Samson wrote in post 122:
"In complete darkness, with a couple hundred pound "animal" coming at you, he's NOT thinking friendly Labrador. Plus, his job is to also protect the K9s from injury, and this "something" in the dark, was way bigger than the bloodhounds."
There is absolutely no excuse for modern LEO organizations not to equip all field officers with Gen 3 night vision and powerful IR illuminators. Gen 3 NV is still expensive, but it's not hideously expensive like it was a couple o' three decades ago. Equipping them with thermals would also be a great step up.
BTW if anyone questions why I would include powerful IR flashlights in the above kit, it's because night vision acts identically to any visible light just like it was broad daylight. IOW you still have to contend with areas in shadow. Gen 3 magnifies light tens of thousands of times, but there has to be at least some light for it to amplify. Additionally, areas of shadow adjacent to brighter areas end to get washed out.
In a combat environment, soldiers only use IR very sparingly because it's visible to enemies who have night vision. In a search and rescue scenario as described in this story that's not a consideration. The police may be reluctant to use visible light if they think a child or missing person may try to hide from them, but that wouldn't be a consideration for officers using night vision and infrared.
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"In complete darkness, with a couple hundred pound "animal" coming at you, he's NOT thinking friendly Labrador. Plus, his job is to also protect the K9s from injury, and this "something" in the dark, was way bigger than the bloodhounds."
There is absolutely no excuse for modern LEO organizations not to equip all field officers with Gen 3 night vision and powerful IR illuminators. Gen 3 NV is still expensive, but it's not hideously expensive like it was a couple o' three decades ago. Equipping them with thermals would also be a great step up.
BTW if anyone questions why I would include powerful IR flashlights in the above kit, it's because night vision acts identically to any visible light just like it was broad daylight. IOW you still have to contend with areas in shadow. Gen 3 magnifies light tens of thousands of times, but there has to be at least some light for it to amplify. Additionally, areas of shadow adjacent to brighter areas end to get washed out.
In a combat environment, soldiers only use IR very sparingly because it's visible to enemies who have night vision. In a search and rescue scenario as described in this story that's not a consideration. The police may be reluctant to use visible light if they think a child or missing person may try to hide from them, but that wouldn't be a consideration for officers using night vision and infrared.
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And that little factoid is actually a contributing factor in this sad mess. Bottle feeding Equines is a well known way of creating dangerously aggressive "pets". *Almost always*, they are allowed "cute" behaviors, such as rearing up and putting their front hooves on the owner while drinking the bottle, or following any human closely (no respect for personal space), physically bumping and nudging to demand feeding.
Granted, it's much *less* dangerous with a miniature donkey than a full sized donkey or horse, but in the dark, there isn't much, if any difference between the noise a mini makes compared to a full sized donkey.
While I fully agree with Doc1 that decent night vision would have made a difference, I've got a feeling this doofus would have still seen a "monster" racing towards him with bared teeth, and the result would have been the same.
I have to say climbing fences and wandering around in a strange pasture at night is a good way to get yourself messed up! If this idiot had done this in our pasture with our Dexter herd (cows, calves, and one big bull who was a total sweetheart), he would have run out of bullets, and then out of room to run.
Im sure of this because it happened to our Amish hired man one evening! He decided to walk home across our back fields, hunting woodchucks around dusk. He crossed the fence into the field where the cows were grazing (and these cows *knew him* very well! He helped us handle them every day!) and he said it was almost instant... 30 heads lifted, 30 sets of eyes focused on him, and the calves were quickly shoved into the center of the herd, behind a couple dozen pairs of horns. And then the entire group started moving towards him at a brisk walk, and he said they definitely didn't want to play!
He shouted at them a couple of times, which slowed them briefly (I'm sure they recognized his voice, but then decided "he shouldn't be out here in the dark"). By the time they were 25 yards away, he figured he was in big trouble, so he shot into the ground in front of them. Apparently, the noise of his 30:30 and some dirt spraying towards them was sufficient... they all turned and went the other way.
He was still shaken up by it the next day when he was telling me about it, and this was a young man who had handled large livestock all his life, and was perfectly comfortable around them, as well as walking around in the woods and fields in the dark.
Officer Pussy had none of those advantages, and had a very wide yellow streak.
Summerthyme
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Just add that I've had similar experiences with cattle, but beef cattle on a working ranch. Once almost dark and the heifers where in a bad mood I guess. Before running to the fence(think I could of made it) I turned to them, took my shirt off in one hand and hat in the other and yelled a bunch of cuse words while waving shirt and hat above my head and jumping up and down towards them. They all turned and did the circle dance around their calves. I then exited the stage, quickly.
For years I had permission to hunt the neighbors property that has a lot of beef cattle and at least one bull in the field I had to cross to get to the hunting spot. Found out quickly to wait or walk around for distance before crossing the pasture at the beginning of the season. After the cattle realized it was hunting season they ignored me. But the first to forth or fifth morning a hour before sun rise I just became another cow or rancher. Walk right threw them, with in feet. The heifers with calfs are more dangerous than the bulls.
I've tree'd black bears by gaining the high ground and throwing rocks into the bush where they was foraging. Twice.
But thats being young and dumb.
I don't know much about donkeys.
I have watched the often played video of the donkey shaking the mountain lion around in its teeth like a rag doll.
Maybe the donkey was in fact posturing aggressively toward the K9s in HIS home.
The cops went to the door and knocked AFTER the shooting. That courtesy could have been extended prior to their entry.
I'll repeat my earlier mention about "curtilage" or "open field" doctrine. Sadly, this is textbook "open field".
Nothing good results from these avoidable tragedies.
I have watched the often played video of the donkey shaking the mountain lion around in its teeth like a rag doll.
Maybe the donkey was in fact posturing aggressively toward the K9s in HIS home.
The cops went to the door and knocked AFTER the shooting. That courtesy could have been extended prior to their entry.
I'll repeat my earlier mention about "curtilage" or "open field" doctrine. Sadly, this is textbook "open field".
Nothing good results from these avoidable tragedies.
Countrymouse
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Have you even LOOKED at the pictures of the little girl crying over the donkey's body?
I'd say it weighed 50-80 pounds max.
And shooting IN THE DARK at something you can't SEE is a basic rule not to be broken with guns!
Hognutz
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That was a mule with the mountain lion.
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View: https://x.com/brick_suit/status/2095712624461984221?s=46
Last video of HeeHaw the donkey.
Here's what it looks like when a 4 month-old donkey runs up to you.
Would you shoot?
(Video posted by his owner on Instagram)
View: https://x.com/brick_suit/status/2095712624461984221?s=46
Last video of HeeHaw the donkey.
Here's what it looks like when a 4 month-old donkey runs up to you.
Would you shoot?
(Video posted by his owner on Instagram)
wobble
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I just saw a YT about the donkey owner having to issue cease and desist order to an harasser.
ETA:
1:30 sec vid
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MZRqVqT1W4
ETA:
1:30 sec vid
harasser name???
King Samson
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King Samson
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The news reports have the donkey being 1 year old, not 4 months...
Age of Heehaw the Miniature Donkey
Heehaw, the miniature donkey, was 1 year old when he was shot and killed by a police officer during a search for a missing child.The donkey could be in the 100 - 150 pound weight range, and stand chest high:
Weight of a 1-Year-Old Miniature Donkey
A 1-year-old miniature donkey typically weighs between 100 to 150 pounds (45 to 68 kilograms).Factors Influencing Weight
- Diet: The quality and quantity of food can affect their weight.
- Genetics: Individual genetic factors may lead to variations in size and weight.
What could a kick from a 150 pound donkey do to a 60 pound Police K9 expensive bloodhound?
King Samson
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Have you ever seen LEOs work a track with their K9s ?
Melodi
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The real issue is the cops didn't knock; they ran into a rural pasture in the middle of the night and then shot at something coming at them. What did they expect, in a rural pasture in the middle of the night. As Summertyme said, they were lucky it wasn't a full-grown bull that might not have been stopped by a single shot - or not fast enough to prevent Officer Donut from becoming hamburger when the beast fell on him.
These cops weren't chasing an armed and dangerous criminal; if they had been, that would be more understandable. But they simply couldn't be bothered to knock on the front door and ran into a rural field.
To me, the cop luckily didn't win a Darwin Award. I hope he never gets a job in law enforcement again, and the same goes for his partner because he didn't knock on the door and allow the homeowner to secure their animals.
These cops weren't chasing an armed and dangerous criminal; if they had been, that would be more understandable. But they simply couldn't be bothered to knock on the front door and ran into a rural field.
To me, the cop luckily didn't win a Darwin Award. I hope he never gets a job in law enforcement again, and the same goes for his partner because he didn't knock on the door and allow the homeowner to secure their animals.
King Samson
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They were looking for a lost child, at 1 AM in the morning.
No Sammy. The real issue is that “cop” is dumber than dog ****. Which apparently is a reflection on the entire department.
Damn good thing the "lost child" didn't come running up to them in the dark......
Melodi
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They were still going onto private property in a rural area, into a field that almost certainly had large animals in it. Taking ten minutes to make sure the field was clear before looking for the child was unlikely to change the eventual outcome. As I said, if they were chasing down an armed and dangerous criminal, in hot pursuit, then I could see not knocking and just following the perp. In that case, the cops would also have a valid reason to shoot anything moving at them in the dark, though they should have had night vision; that wasn't their fault- that was their employer's.
Not to mention that, by not knocking, if an officer had been killed by a raging bull or even a donkey, I suspect the insurance companies would have a field day trying to figure things out. I used to work the workers' compensation appeals desk for the State of Colorado; this sort of case is the stuff of nightmares and would probably have ended up with the county/department in court - sued by the insurance company if no one else.
No! They started looking for the child at 1AM. I can guess at 2 hr.'s just to get the bloodhounds and handler up and around, probably had to load the dog box's as well as get there just to start from the child's house.
Any clue what the responding officer was doing before calling for the dogs. Obviousy not checking with the neighbours or running the roads!
Ya I have seen them at work and am not impressed. I can see that the BH handler was doomed from the beginning with the rest of these clowns running around. If those hounds already had a scent, then he would have been across that pasture in minutes alone with-out the ideates.
Let's also understand that they had lights as well as visual to know what it was and where. They had a whole pasture to make a warning shot into. The knight stick should have been someones first choice of weapons.
King Samson
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So, the officers knew what track the dogs were going to take, ahead of time, and should have notified the residents that they were going to be on their property?
Really?
Did you miss the fact that the officer deployed a Less Lethal device, his Taser first, but it didn't work. So to stop the attacking donkey, he fired one shot.
Why does it matter what exact time they started the track? It was dark for quite a while at that point.. 11 PM or 1 AM... same conditions outside.
Or, did the pasture have streetlights, and they could see everything going on?
He didn't "deploy" the taser, at least in terms of actually shooting it at the donkey. He just triggered it so it created the cool blue sparks...
That *probably * would have freaked out your average wild animal, but the donkey had never been hurt by a human in any way. He probably just figured it was sone silly human fun again.
Summerthyme
That *probably * would have freaked out your average wild animal, but the donkey had never been hurt by a human in any way. He probably just figured it was sone silly human fun again.
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King Samson
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Do you think the Cedartown, Georgia Police Department, in Polk County, with a town population of 10,190, has the budget to buy night vision for all it's LEOs?
King Samson
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"Deploying" a Taser, means operating it. Arcing or firing prongs. Which didn't work to scare him away.
So, what's his next defense?
....."According to the report, the Haralson County bloodhound team moved away as the donkey approached. The Polk County K-9 handler removed his Taser and activated its electrical arc in an attempt to discourage the animal, but Garner said the donkey continued toward them.
Garner then pulled his department-issued handgun and fired once, striking HeeHaw. The donkey turned, moved back up the hill and collapsed, the report says."...
Georgia officer explains why he shot beloved donkey HeeHaw during search for missing girl
A newly released police report provides the first detailed account from the Cedartown officer who shot and killed HeeHaw, a bottle-raised donkey, while helping search for a missing 12-year-old girl in Polk County.
www.cbsnews.com
We'll probably never know, without interviewing the donkey, to see what he was thinking at that point in time.That *probably * would have freaked out your average wild animal, but the donkey had never been hurt by a human in any way. He probably just figured it was sone silly human fun again.
Yes, sad that the donkey died, but we all forget, in split seconds, a LEO has to make a decision... Everyone else can sit around on Monday, and play Monday morning quarterback, with as much time as they need.
Hognutz
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Mt town of 2000 does, thanks to Uncle Sams militarization of the police….
ETA: They never did get their MRAP tho’….
Hognutz
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Cops have no problem waiting around when there is an active shooter in a school….."Deploying" a Taser, means operating it. Arcing or firing prongs. Which didn't work to scare him away.
So, what's his next defense?
....."According to the report, the Haralson County bloodhound team moved away as the donkey approached. The Polk County K-9 handler removed his Taser and activated its electrical arc in an attempt to discourage the animal, but Garner said the donkey continued toward them.
Garner then pulled his department-issued handgun and fired once, striking HeeHaw. The donkey turned, moved back up the hill and collapsed, the report says."...
Georgia officer explains why he shot beloved donkey HeeHaw during search for missing girl
A newly released police report provides the first detailed account from the Cedartown officer who shot and killed HeeHaw, a bottle-raised donkey, while helping search for a missing 12-year-old girl in Polk County.
We'll probably never know, without interviewing the donkey, to see what he was thinking at that point in time.
Yes, sad that the donkey died, but we all forget, in split seconds, a LEO has to make a decision... Everyone else can sit around on Monday, and play Monday morning quarterback, with as much time as they need.
The responding cop had 2 hr's before the dogs even got involved.
I would think that he had plenty of time to figure out that 2 neighboring same aged girls that go to school together new each other. Set that beside one lives in a petting zoo, I am sure they both did some bottle feeding of several animals together. While this story is about HeeHaa, it's just as likely that momma cat was having kittens in the barn and both girls were there.
At least that should have been checked out as one of the first events to happen.
I would think that he had plenty of time to figure out that 2 neighboring same aged girls that go to school together new each other. Set that beside one lives in a petting zoo, I am sure they both did some bottle feeding of several animals together. While this story is about HeeHaa, it's just as likely that momma cat was having kittens in the barn and both girls were there.
At least that should have been checked out as one of the first events to happen.
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Agreed! And talk sweet, kisses and smouching sounds. With horses it can be clinking sounds so forth and so on. Some cattle respond to hoots and hollers. Same with dogs, cats, etc....
Whats most important is don't act scared and small.
Cops that may find them selves in farmers or ranchers fields should carry a can of corn to shake if they feel scared.
Like Summer has said, that cop is a pussy, and being a city slicker is no excuse.
A country cop in the city would get into big trouble if he shot one of them Amish youths for simply riding his bicycle in his face. Hog tieing one up.
Heh...
Good stuff!