Sherrynboo
Veteran Member
The whole thing makes me sick!
FARM Georgia Deputy shoots baby donkey, while trespassing.
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I can't think of enough bad things that need to happen to him.
Southside
Has No Timebombs, Lives on Life
Become a Law Enforcement Officer.
It's a scary world out there!
So the cop can trespass on our property without a warrant (claiming to be looking for someone) and entertain himself by shooting our harmless small pet? I sincerely believe that 10% of all cops are psychopaths. He might get away with that once, but if he ever bothered us a second time, I'd have to consider him a necessary target for elimination.
JMG91
Veteran Member
No kidding! There's no excuse for this! I could wrangle that thing by myself!
A couple of points: that isn't a "baby"...looks like a nice, well fed yearling. Donkeys absolutely are kept as *guard animals* for other livestock. Im wondering if he was the only animal in the pasture?
Maybe more important, were these guys carrying *good* lights, or were they stumbling around in the dark with something that maybe lit twenty feet in front of them?
And MOST important, had this cop ever seen or *heard* a donkey up close? City cops can be amazingly ignorant and spooky once away from streetlights.
Once, years ago during the Bucky Phillips manhunt, I had walked out to the barn at midnight to check a cow close to calving. Walking back to the house, I noticed a sheriff's car using a spotlight to search the fields as they drove slowly up the road. I couldn't believe they didn't realize how FAR away that was visible! Any fugitive with a bit of woods sense would have been hunkered down in the deep weeds LONG before they ever got the light near him!
I walked out to the road and flagged them down. We had a woods cabin about a quarter mile back on our land, and *something* (someone) had completely cleaned all the ripe blueberries off the plants in the field next to our house a couple nights earlier.
I explained, and asked if they wanted to check the cabin...it could have been entirely possible for Phillips to have been using it as a dry spot to rest for a night or two.
I hopped in the back of the car and directed them up the farm road. The further back in the fields we went, the worse those deputies got spooked! They were *very* uncomfortable being offthe road...obviously, neither of them had been off the sidewalks in years.
I'm thinking in the OP, Barney Fife crawled through a fence, got a few yards into the pasture, and the donkey noticed "visitors". Maybe he WAS so much of a pet that he would run to anyone, or maybe he registered "strangers, possible threat"...but if the cop had never heard a donkey bray, that rusty scream, coming rapidly nearer out of the dark probably freaked him out.
It reminds me a bit of a *literal* "baby" Dexter bull we had. He was a true, short legged Dexter...I think he finally hit 40" tall at 4 years old. As a 4 month old calf, he was barely knee high. But, like all Dexter's, he matured sexually VERY early, and by three months, his voice broke and he developed a deep, loud "bull roar".
It was hilarious to be out in the field in the dark and hear this "big bull" heading your way. Deep, fierce "roar" every other step...and then, out of the darkness emerged this 60#, 24" tall baby Dexter!
The cop should be fired. But the folks responsible for him being adequately trained to handle anything that might come along in a RURAL setting also need to be forced to improve how they prepare new officers.
Summerthyme
Maybe more important, were these guys carrying *good* lights, or were they stumbling around in the dark with something that maybe lit twenty feet in front of them?
And MOST important, had this cop ever seen or *heard* a donkey up close? City cops can be amazingly ignorant and spooky once away from streetlights.
Once, years ago during the Bucky Phillips manhunt, I had walked out to the barn at midnight to check a cow close to calving. Walking back to the house, I noticed a sheriff's car using a spotlight to search the fields as they drove slowly up the road. I couldn't believe they didn't realize how FAR away that was visible! Any fugitive with a bit of woods sense would have been hunkered down in the deep weeds LONG before they ever got the light near him!
I walked out to the road and flagged them down. We had a woods cabin about a quarter mile back on our land, and *something* (someone) had completely cleaned all the ripe blueberries off the plants in the field next to our house a couple nights earlier.
I explained, and asked if they wanted to check the cabin...it could have been entirely possible for Phillips to have been using it as a dry spot to rest for a night or two.
I hopped in the back of the car and directed them up the farm road. The further back in the fields we went, the worse those deputies got spooked! They were *very* uncomfortable being offthe road...obviously, neither of them had been off the sidewalks in years.
I'm thinking in the OP, Barney Fife crawled through a fence, got a few yards into the pasture, and the donkey noticed "visitors". Maybe he WAS so much of a pet that he would run to anyone, or maybe he registered "strangers, possible threat"...but if the cop had never heard a donkey bray, that rusty scream, coming rapidly nearer out of the dark probably freaked him out.
It reminds me a bit of a *literal* "baby" Dexter bull we had. He was a true, short legged Dexter...I think he finally hit 40" tall at 4 years old. As a 4 month old calf, he was barely knee high. But, like all Dexter's, he matured sexually VERY early, and by three months, his voice broke and he developed a deep, loud "bull roar".
It was hilarious to be out in the field in the dark and hear this "big bull" heading your way. Deep, fierce "roar" every other step...and then, out of the darkness emerged this 60#, 24" tall baby Dexter!
The cop should be fired. But the folks responsible for him being adequately trained to handle anything that might come along in a RURAL setting also need to be forced to improve how they prepare new officers.
Summerthyme
raven
TB Fanatic
I was going to say, the townie cops probably “saw” a mass of black fur in the dark and “heard” bellowing and thought they were being attacked by a bear.
But you don’t want people without judgement in official positions carrying firearms.
There is still nothing funny
JMG91
Veteran Member
Doubtful. Who's stupid enough to try deploying a taser against a charging bear? Naw, these guys had already figured out what they were dealing with by the time they shot this animal. Like others said, it was probably lack of livestock sense. I'm constantly shocked how terrified some people are of my animals--no matter how small!
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
It was a PASTURE?!?! What couldn't they see...in an OPEN pasture? How friggen tall was the grass?
Geee was the "gwreat Bwig POlease OSSIFER aFraid of a itty bitty baby donkey?".........coward!
What did they think would be in a RURAL PASTURE?!? MORONS!! They're lucky it wasn't a 2,000 PLUS pound angry BULL coming at them full steam. Those little pea shooters they carry wouldn't stop that in time!
Geee was the "gwreat Bwig POlease OSSIFER aFraid of a itty bitty baby donkey?".........coward!
What did they think would be in a RURAL PASTURE?!? MORONS!! They're lucky it wasn't a 2,000 PLUS pound angry BULL coming at them full steam. Those little pea shooters they carry wouldn't stop that in time!
vector7
Dot Collector
Maria: Also, the missing person was apparently found an hour before the cops did this according to HeeHaw’s owner
They shot it for fun. not a chance it was any danger at all.
They shoot and harrass everyone except the criminals—why do they let useless people like that be cops? They kill innocents.
Craziest part is the officer that did the shooting was laughing about it back at the police station at shift change and even is putting a sticker on their locker as part of a shooting count. It’s funny to them because they will never be held accountable and the city will pay for it.
View: https://fxtwitter.com/MHeartsya/status/2094239951567097914
They shot it for fun. not a chance it was any danger at all.
They shoot and harrass everyone except the criminals—why do they let useless people like that be cops? They kill innocents.
Craziest part is the officer that did the shooting was laughing about it back at the police station at shift change and even is putting a sticker on their locker as part of a shooting count. It’s funny to them because they will never be held accountable and the city will pay for it.
View: https://fxtwitter.com/MHeartsya/status/2094239951567097914
PrairieWind
Senior Member
Hot wire, outside bottom, top inside too!!! This story just squeezes my heart 
KFhunter
FAFO
If this were MY Donkey its death would not be in vain, I’d cash in that donkey for all I could!
Punitive damages
Pain and suffering
Lost wages potential
Training costs to replace a petting zoo Donkey
Prize Donkey costs
gofundme donations
Give send go
Ya, I’d ride that donkey to the moon
The most expensive donkey in the history of donkeys
If "common sense" were common.....
There's also an endangering of human lives in the discarging of a firearm in the dark if it can be proven that an occupied dwelling was in the line of fire.
I don't recall seeing whether the missing person search was concluded and if so how.
Was there an "amber/silver" alert issued and if so how?
I can't personally see how they considered there was PC to enter a private property for a non-criminal "hot pursuit" without attempting to contact people on the property. Heck the PA on a properly equipped public safety vehicle could have handled that.
The local constituents should be inundating their local elected officials on this one if for no other reason that the PPP of this LEO, and thus by extension the entire agency he belongs to.
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
He doesn’t look very dangerous to me….
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View: https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2094506505575837723?s=61
I have a sad and genuinely infuriating story...
A little donkey named HeeHaw was sh0t and k*lled... by police... in the middle of the night... on his own family's farm.
His "crime"? He ran up to the officers braying, being a friendly donkey.
This happened in Polk County, Georgia, around 12:45 in the morning.
According to the family that owns Elsberry Riding and Farm, officers came onto their property, into the pasture, searching for a missing person. The family says they did it without permission.
And there was HeeHaw. A small, curious donkey doing what donkeys do. The family says he ran up to the officers braying to greet them.
The family says the officers tried to TASE him first and then one of them sh0t him, and he passed away.
A small donkey trotting up braying is not a threat.
You do not need a taser, and you SURE AS HELL don't need a bullet, for a friendly farm animal, any Southern person knows that.
To their credit, the department is not sweeping it away.
The Cedartown Police Chief launched an investigation and put the officer who fired on administrative leave. GOOD.
And the Sheriff's Office, which wasn't even involved, took the time to send condolences to the family.
HeeHaw wasn't a threat. He was a pet. And he trusted people right up until the end.
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R/T 21 sec.
View: https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2094506505575837723?s=61
I have a sad and genuinely infuriating story...
A little donkey named HeeHaw was sh0t and k*lled... by police... in the middle of the night... on his own family's farm.
His "crime"? He ran up to the officers braying, being a friendly donkey.
This happened in Polk County, Georgia, around 12:45 in the morning.
According to the family that owns Elsberry Riding and Farm, officers came onto their property, into the pasture, searching for a missing person. The family says they did it without permission.
And there was HeeHaw. A small, curious donkey doing what donkeys do. The family says he ran up to the officers braying to greet them.
The family says the officers tried to TASE him first and then one of them sh0t him, and he passed away.
A small donkey trotting up braying is not a threat.
You do not need a taser, and you SURE AS HELL don't need a bullet, for a friendly farm animal, any Southern person knows that.
To their credit, the department is not sweeping it away.
The Cedartown Police Chief launched an investigation and put the officer who fired on administrative leave. GOOD.
And the Sheriff's Office, which wasn't even involved, took the time to send condolences to the family.
HeeHaw wasn't a threat. He was a pet. And he trusted people right up until the end.
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
View: https://x.com/brick_suit/status/2094476420068290563?s=61
The Cedartown Police Department, the force that employs the officer that murdered HeeHaw the petting zoo donkey, is getting absolutely bodied on Facebook.
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The Cedartown Police Department, the force that employs the officer that murdered HeeHaw the petting zoo donkey, is getting absolutely bodied on Facebook.
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DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
My best friend was the Sheriff next County over from me he just retired because of the way things have changed .
Something very few understand, and I mean no disrespect in this next statement, but there is an IQ cap on cops. This is in place country wide from the state troopers on down. The feds are a different beast, they don't mind intelligence, but they also like messed up intelligent people (mentally messed up).
I personally only know this because I looked into being a state trooper in my late 20's, talked with a state university about some classes I'd need and how to go about it. After taking some tests and jumping through some hoops, I was told I'd never get hired.. If I wanted to go into enforcement, I'd need to look at the federal level..
To clarify, my parents owned a very popular bakery when I was growing up, it was attached to our house. I spent a lot of time years ago with officers, deer hunted with them, partied with some of them, knew them by name.. Officers of 20 plus years ago are not the same as Officers of today. I've a ton of respect for the older gen in enforcement, but these 40 and younger guys... I see them more as a liability (unknown how they are going to react/panic at what situation) then an asset..
Our good friend, the best sheriff we'd had, was nominated to get extra training at the FBI.
He shot himself 6 months later. His life had been stable, ex wife was happy, their son was doing well. It made NO sense.
Summerthyme
Very true! The training material they now receive is provided by Mossad. Am not going to start that debate here, but lets just say I very much disagree with it.
You also touch on a very important part:
"they are taught command presence where they must control everybody they interact with through their on-site aggressive attitude".
I believe this is on purpose - lets call it "escalate and de-escalate". They only know how to escalate. They have no training on de-escalating. So when they have to deal with someone who also escalates, they are at a loss on what to do, especially if it is something minor. This is where you see the news stories about some crazy sounding cops, cops that shoot mini donkeys. Sadly, this also makes them very malleable and vulnerable, if one understands this, then they completely control the interaction and the low IQ esclator is in a bad spot.
I also believe there is a long term goal out there to federalize all the police (history of collapsing countries shows this happens in late stages).
So, with an IQ cap, panicky reactions over everything, the inability to even know how to deescalate situations.. Well, sounds to me like we have everything to start a real mess.
Every decision other then shooting the donkey, would have been a better decision. Please see my above post.
Around here, you'll occasionally deputies herding cows down the road and back into a pasture.
But, almost any truck that drives up will split right or left to the fence and help move said cows.
If it's a big mess, someone will back up with flashers to slow traffic if the line of sight is short.
But, almost any truck that drives up will split right or left to the fence and help move said cows.
If it's a big mess, someone will back up with flashers to slow traffic if the line of sight is short.
JMG91
Veteran Member
Oh HELL naw!!
Big Kahuna
Contributing Member
Common sense AIN'T common. And this whole situation is downright SICK! Candy ass cops. Wonder how they would handle a school shooting.
They wouldn't, and that is how you end up with shit like what went down in Uvalde.
As a side note, shortly after that happened, I was talking to an officer that is stationed at my kids elementary school. I told him "well this sure sucks and am going to have to reconfigure my "rescue my kids" bag." He gave me a goofy look that clearly said he didn't understand to which I replied "well, now I have to deal with you guys before I can go save my kids"..
The look of absolute befuddlement on his face was priceless. In a few facial expressions and body language movements, he told me he had never considered someone thinking they could do a better job then him or "the police" in dealing with such a situation. At that point he fully understood that I as a citizen, considered him nothing but in the way. That was a few years ago now and I still see him all the time.. The body language turns passive when he notices me.
KFhunter
FAFO
EVERYONE no matter the employer is having trouble finding halfway intelligent younger people to hire, they’re idiots who were raised by their phones.
I SOOOO want to completely agree with you here.. Do we have a generation of "what happened to you?" coming up through the ranks - Absolutely.
It isn't the phones though, it is war I believe. A silent war that only a few see happening.
The destruction of the family unit. The media pushing lifestyles that create massive debt to live for 99% of the people, the intelligence agencies playing games over the years with inner city races, the hidden tax (inflation) that drives Mom and Dad to exhaustion so they can have what the TV tells them they should have. Kids being completely turned over to a system that has spent billions researching mind control techniques, breaking will/spirt, creating hive/drone like behaviors.. I could go on and on here, it isn't like we don't have 50 plus years of history here to look at (at least before they delete it). Parents have been in a war for all these years, started soft but we are seeing the long term effects everywhere now..
Who/what is driving it? Years of pondering it leads me to think an intelligence greater then man is capable of. We have old stories about this very thing, these stories also point an a very intelligent evil being. I found these in my bible, yet all over the world we have completely different cultures who have the same stories..
I don't believe it is the phones..
Repairman-Jack
Veteran Member
The chief's statement was pathetic. I'm on the fence about the "cop" DEI hire or f#cktard gettin' his gun on
if it was ostritches there coulda been enuf for the whole dept
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
A young girl heartbroken, a beloved pet gone but this could have been much, much worse. A teenager in the wrong place at the wrong time? A child with a realistic toy gun from the '60s given by a grandparent? Hopefully some good will come of this. I don't know what, maybe a reader makes a different career choice? Maybe another officer reads it and properly ids future targets potentially saving a life, maybe more than one?
LE wasn't my career choice, ever. They see people at their absolute worst. They see things that can haunt them, for a life time. They do a job that can be dangerous, fatal even. They have to make split second decisions, maybe like this one and they're not always the right one in hind site. I'm not excusing this officer. In a small way from the safety of a key board I'm appreciating the facts of what that job entails.
LE wasn't my career choice, ever. They see people at their absolute worst. They see things that can haunt them, for a life time. They do a job that can be dangerous, fatal even. They have to make split second decisions, maybe like this one and they're not always the right one in hind site. I'm not excusing this officer. In a small way from the safety of a key board I'm appreciating the facts of what that job entails.
West
Senior
I raise Bantams, the hen mother's with chicks or eggs are a force to be recon with. I just protect my eyes, they go for the eyes.....
Seriously, more than once they have had this 200 pound man on the offensive while backing off..
LOL
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
R/T 51 sec.
View: https://x.com/realpaulmueller/status/2094613765262070134?s=12
HEEHAW UPDATE: The Cedartown Police Chief confirms he has seen the bodycam footage from the night an officer killed a pet miniature doney, HeeHaw. His response to 11Alive: “I’ve seen it, but I won’t comment.”
The investigation is now with the Georgia Department of Agriculture Law Enforcement Division. Hannah Israel is still waiting for answers. So are we.
View: https://x.com/realpaulmueller/status/2094613765262070134?s=12
HEEHAW UPDATE: The Cedartown Police Chief confirms he has seen the bodycam footage from the night an officer killed a pet miniature doney, HeeHaw. His response to 11Alive: “I’ve seen it, but I won’t comment.”
The investigation is now with the Georgia Department of Agriculture Law Enforcement Division. Hannah Israel is still waiting for answers. So are we.
Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Handguns aren't at all what they're (often) cracked up to be. Achieving instant one-shot stops (against human attackers) with a pistol is relatively uncommon. This is even more true in the case of animals. Anyone shooting a bull with a 9mm is an idiot and very much a candidate for the Darwin Award.
Always remember that death is not the same thing as incapacitation. Your goal in any shooting scenario is your survival and the incapacitation of the threat. The death - or not - of your opponent should not even be a consideration in those initial seconds of a gunfight.
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Doc
markshere2
Senior Member
West
Senior
I can see how city folk or even anyone who has never been around a donkey, could have a panic attack when their baling at you full ball and coming at you...
First time I heard a fox come in, I thought I was going to see a huge big foot, then this little mountain fox steps out of the bush and into my shooting lane. I put the safety back on.
First time I heard a fox come in, I thought I was going to see a huge big foot, then this little mountain fox steps out of the bush and into my shooting lane. I put the safety back on.