Elza
Veteran Member
Amen, Brother. You and me both.
SNOWFLAKE Gen-Z employees can’t bear the 9-to-5 grind — so they’re using lunch breaks to nap and cry
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Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
My kids were brought up influenced by a culture, media and institutions that promoted participation trophies etc. The reality of their first jobs quickly slapped that nonsense out of them. They're doing fine. We don't always agree but we listen, even if that means to agree to disagree.
Southside
Has No Timebombs, Lives on Life
100%
When I worked at the refinery, we got a 40 minute lunch. 11:50 to 12:30. Eat the first 10 minutes, take a 1/2 hour nap.
Did it every day.
I can, to this day, just close my eyes and, it's off to sleep.
Blacknarwhal
Three-Time Trump Voter
In most places, that's theft. Why are we allowing businesses to steal from us?
WildDaisy
God has a plan, Trust it!
I have a young adult and he works 10 hr days 6 days a week. It is all about work ethic taught. He saves like crazy and we call him "McScrooge".
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Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
When I worked construction, laborer and Iron worker, I ate lunch, and napped about every day. Right were I was. Just enough time to call it a Power Nap...... I liked it. I was in my early twenty's. But it was very physical work and tiring, the nap did help.
Now day's, I fall asleep at this computer way too much.......
Now day's, I fall asleep at this computer way too much.......
meezy
Veteran Member
My work-at-home distractions have fur and nap a lot.
On the other hand, I still have a human kid who calls frequently to tell me everything. Usually, when I'm in the middle of doing something important. Still, can't complain.
L.A.B.
Goodness before greatness.
My work-at-home distractions have fur and nap a lot.
On the other hand, I still have a human kid who calls frequently to tell me everything. Usually, when I'm in the middle of doing something important. Still, can't complain.
I hear you meezy.
My post was a bit of a hybrid of the comedic scene from the movie ‘Hangover-3’ IIRC, and the 15 years I shared with the 17 year old stepson now living with his girlfriend.
We evolved from his fixation with owning his [forever Mom-servant on-call] “Moooooom can I have” this or that between age 17, right up to age 32 last month.
Thank God the right girl caught his spirit.
Houston, we have launch. We have lift off!
Cause for celebration! Whiskey shots at the TB2K bar!
Hubby always took a 20 minute nap after lunch when we were dairy farming. By noon, he'd been working hard for 8 hours...and had 8 more to go. That quick catnap probably saved a ton of injuries and repairs, over the years.
Summerthyme
meezy
Veteran Member
Yay!
Mine is almost 28! He's been living on his own for several years now, but not doing so well at it, so I talked him into going back to college, and he is going to graduate in about a month! Woohoo! Then he's going to be moving back home! Woohoo! Well...
His previous "bedroom" in the basement is under renovation, so it's not going to be very comfy for him. This is probably a good thing. LOL
BillM
Dr Science
The companies today are 'retiring' we old timers. When (not if) this collapse happens or infrastructure gets taken out, good look finding anyone in this 'new gen' that has what it takes to bring us back. If they can't order it from amazon or fix it with a phone, It's not happening.
Firebird
Has No Life - Lives on TB
No dig at you Meezy, but I would not have fathomed moving back home at 28. I was too busy with marriage, career and raising kids at that age. Things are definitely different these days.
GoldnGoddess
Contributing Member
GenX here too...I honestly think we wanted to raise our kids in a way that was opposite, tbh. The things we learned were out of necessity- and sheer survival. It made us who we are. In all honesty, I think we coddled our millennial kids, because we didn't get that, now...sadly, we are paying for that. Thats just my opinion on it-
Dux
Veteran Member
When I worked in downtown San Francisco, I was able to join a club. Located in an older building with windows that opened, a large library of mostly fiction, and huge leather chairs. The best part, which I may have used from time to time, was a nap room for the ladies. So civilized.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Maybe, just maybe, if they were not up all night gaming and on social media, they would not need a nap. Maybe if mommy and daddy made them work their butt off as a child they would have stamina...
Sounds like a joke I suppose but honestly, the blue light from electronics/tv/etc can disrupt sleep and circadian rhythm. Add to that what they are watching is visually and emotionally stimulating and interrupts the relax command you brain normally gives you after a certain point and you have a disaster waiting to happen. Then smear all over that the potential of behavioral issues leftover from adolescence but unable to be treated the same way as an adult due to medication constraints? Yeah, nope. You wind up with a lot of people with their hardwiring and software all screwed up.
Old Greek
Veteran Member
Best definition so far!
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Most of these kiddos have no stamina. They were never forced to work hard.
I saw it as a foster parent. If the kiddo was getting difficult I found something outside to do to help me with and I was right beside them until I could tell they hit their physical limit. It is very hard to be difficult if one is sore and ready to take a nap. And I could tell the kiddos had zero concept of what actual hard work was. And they had no conecpt on their career goals that they had to be excelling in this or that subject matter in school.
And even more the kiddos were never forced to accept consequences. Lack of accountability in thinking and cause/effect causality conceptualization, you get little bratty adults. This was especially the case with anyo child that ended up in foster care. They thought they were getting rewarded with attention when they acted out...
Cyclonemom
Veteran Member
I'm Genx also.
My theory is that we were so used to solving problems and working through issues that we never backed off enough to let our kids do so.
The culture in the last 20 years is also wildly different than 40-60 years ago. Unless your kid had no outside influence, the participation trophy syndrome was going to sink in.
bro retired from CDN military after 25 yrs.
next job was bowling alley mech for 18 yrs, til he retired from that.
he was a helicopter mech in the military and he said
the amount of computer smarts in bowling machines is wild.
when he announced his retirement from the bowling alley
it took a yr to replace him.
the winning candidate ran a full time farm and had grade 12.
none of the 'up and comers' could hack the job.
as much as I hate kids(adult kids) living at home,
I do not see how any youngster can afford a house any more.
and car payments are waaay outta touch with reality.
let alone trying to pay rent
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Most kids now have to have room mates to afford living.
We never caught on with China and Asia with simple sleeping pod setups. Just enough room for a bed, a spot for a couple of bins for personal effects and a communal kitchen and bathroom. Super small but affordable.
meezy
Veteran Member
I completely agree. When I was 28, I was married, a homeowner, and expecting our first child.
He has made some mistakes. He's fixing them. I'm proud of him for doing so.
meezy
Veteran Member
My son has been talking about living with his best friend/ former roommate again; the friend has a great job and wants to buy a house and charge my son rent. The only problem is where he wishes to buy that house. He lives in Chillicothe, and there's not much chance of getting a job in his field. It has to be closer to Columbus, at least. But he and this guy lived together for several years until my son went back to college last year. If they can make it work, that would be a great idea.
I'll add to my previous post... my son has not lived with us all this time; he had his own apartment with his roommate and a girlfriend for a while. Moving back to our house is just happening because he decided to go back and finish his degree, and there are a lot more opportunities in our area to use it than where he and his friend used to live. He doesn't want to live with us. It's going to be very temporary, I hope.
Firebird
Has No Life - Lives on TB
That's great, so glad he's getting things right! He'll be back on his feet in no time.
Old Greek
Veteran Member
Hey - now on two threads!!
Profit of Doom
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KFhunter
Has No Life - Lives on TB
My kids are all Gen Z but raised to work hard and self motivated. They’re rising fast among their peers with their work ethic and problem solving so it’s not a bad thing to be part of a crap generation if that’s what Gen Z is. Those who grew up vaping and doing pot won’t ever amount to much.
Most of them I know being rural are pretty squared away.
Most of them I know being rural are pretty squared away.
KFhunter
Has No Life - Lives on TB
My daughter is living with me until her finance finishes building their house, I got plenty of space. She works hard on it too.
100% debt free.
On 40ac of nice homestead property. They house is walled and roofed, well is in, power is in, septic going in soon then just interior work and deck. It’s all up to code, no slop. His brother is a home builder so that’s a big help
It’s a nice place too, they don’t make big money he’s a firefighter and she makes about the same (for now)
Some Gen Z’s are doing it right.
I visited an office in a major city tied to the financial industry. An office full of GenZ types. They had shuffleboard, putting greens, a bar with taps, a fully stocked kitchen, full of snacks and a nap room. Or as I was being taken on a tour of the office, they called it a room to go lose your $hit when the pressure gets to be too much. Very large pillows that you can scream in. Being the boomer that I am, part of me just wanted to shake my head, but I had to keep my poker face on for my tour guide. The other part of me thought that’s pretty cool. Wish we had stuff like that back when I was in an office lol! It very much was a twilight zone moment for me though. They definitely are a softer generation.
GoldnGoddess
Contributing Member
Excellent point, indeed- and I do agree.
When I tell my kid things I did as a kid...he gets a deer in the headlight look...like you did what? lol...yeah and when I played softball, your team lost, we shook hands and tried harder next time- so, yeah agreed, 40 years makes a big difference. I would not trade the way I grew up for anything.
HighStrung
Senior Member
I agree and disagree with this. Most....did exactly what you said, a few still taught their kids while they were solving the problem. Im in Industrial Maint as a career with a speciality in automated contols engineering. Though not certified, Im a very solid electrician and mechanical specialist.
I can promise that my 18yr old daughter could wire your house and pass inspection, she could change your brakes, shes an EMT and could cook you a solid 3 course comfort meal. My 16yr old son can do the same.
Im tail end of Gen X, wife is personality Gen X but Gen Y by birth. We can foods, buy whole cows, render tallow, make our own broth, etc. and we live in a very different world than DW amd I grew up in. Our kids say we're different, no one else they know sits down to a home cooked dinner 5-6 nights a week at the dinner table. We're they odd ones, lol.
Example relating to you post though, our son had played baseball locally for a couple yrs, did really well (actually DD is a freshman in college now playing D1 softball on a full ride scholarship), and DS was moving into the travel levels of sports, he decided to try something new, he wanted to try soccer.
Played one year, got a BS participation trophy. Comes back to me after the last game, with trophy in hand, says "Dad, uhhhh, why did they give me this trophy?" My reply, because you played and everyone did good (while choking back my opinion). He says yeah, cool, but I didnt really do anything, we didnt win, this doesn't matter.........I said I agree. Then I said, "If you want something to be proud of, you have to do enough to earn it". Go do that and you'll want the trophy, because you actually earned it.
His trophy from soccer was in the trash in 5 minutes, He did it, I didnt, he was 8yrs old then.
Its how we raise them. Gen XYZ... can do what ever, work ethic isn't the same and it never will be what it use to be, heck people work from home now and in many ways thats okay in the right circumstance. I've lived in snooty neighborhoods, and the bottom of the barrel neighborhoods, both have really good people, and really bad people......both sets have kids.
I'm college educated but working hard with my hands in a blue collar industry is what made my way to a $100K+/yr career. I'm trying to teach my kids to work smarter, not harder......but nothing wrong with coming home dirty from a job that pays amazingly either.
Its hard, however, to have the time and patience to teach even your own child at times. My schedule is stupid busy, yet when the dishwasher broke I took to time to walk my son through the repair beside me, rather than fixing it in 1/2 the time by just doing it myself.....but that wouldn't have taught anyone anything. We also spent $30 instead of just having an new $600+ dishwasher installed by the local box store, and I showed him the value in that aspect as well. That's where I feel like we're failing, taking the time to teach the ones watching, the ones looking for guidance, because we're all too damn busy. Not everyone is destined for an office job, but no one is teaching the other skill sets anymore. But if we dont take the time to teach them, who will???
Just my $.02
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