CRIME Ga. PD launches 'Shoot to Incapacitate' program

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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What we saw this week were clearly people just lacking conflict resolution.
Now, there’s something I can get behind. How many stories have been posted on TB about cops needing to be in “control” of situations where control wasn’t necessary. The “gestapo cop,” the “dog-shooter cop,” etc. Cops have become far to militarized, and have the “us vs. everyone else” mentality ingrained into them.

Things need to change.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
My youngest risked his life every day on the job. He saved a whole bunch of lives - actually such a good cop that the baddies usually thanked him for getting them onto a better path. His training in Alaska was completely top shelf - really truly. But he ended up in Boulder cuz he has to climb all the things. Lucky Mom that I am, he got out just at the beginning of BLM and Covid.

He misses being a cop - he was a very good one, putting in a lot of hours to help people because that is how he rolls. Colorado kind of broke him of that when the other officers left him out in the cold a couple times on a hot shooter situation.

His training and mine - way back in an Anchorage high school where we shot actual guns in PE - was always, ‘shoot to stop’. I don’t see much good coming from this....but I tend to lean to what has proven to work rather than the emoting today’s world is all about.
 

TXKajun

Veteran Member
I think this is a brilliant idea. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Heaven forbid that the bad guys should be expected to follow laws. After all, isn't this what tasers were designed for? *very heavy sarcasm off*
 

fish hook

Deceased
I don't know of any police agency in the US that teaches an officer to shoot to kill.
It has always been, shoot to stop the threat.

Many officers shoot very poorly on the range. Some would have trouble hitting a phone
booth if they were on the inside with the door closed. Yes, they are that bad, well, almost.

On the range we used the black silhouette inside of a white background, but that was
racist. Now it's the white silhouette inside of a black background, but that's not racist.

Outside range qualifications are usually done on very nice days. The target doesn't move
or shoot back. Most silhouettes don't have arms and legs.

Everyone has ample time to complete a course of fire. Yet, some people repeatedly fail
and have to retest, sometimes several retests.

They can't hit center mass much less a smaller target/area that is moving.

With all those target misses, those bullets will end up someplace else and the officer will
have to fire his gun more often to hit his target.

The end result is bullets ricocheting off the pavement, walls or simply killing the bystanders.
What i was thinking. Half a dozen cops do a mag dump and hit the perp twice. They are lucky to hit them anywhere.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Multiple studies have shown law enforcement officer accuracy is abysmal.

that may be true is some but not all instances of weapons discharge

Certainly I never missed and I didnt do mag dumps either,
course with a revolver its kinda bad to off load all six rounds at once.
I put three down for a total of 5 rounds discharged. So there:jstr:.
And having seen citizens shoot on the range Or never at all I stand by my assertion that most cops are better shots than the average ctizen
 
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