Flu plan laid out in chilling detail - Canada

ARUBI

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Flu plan laid out in chilling detail
Canada

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Feb. 26, 2005. 08:16 AM

Flu plan laid out in chilling detail


ELAINE CAREY
MEDICAL REPORTER

It is a long and chilling document. It lists the names of every embalming fluid and casket supplier in Canada, discusses mass graves and temporary morgues and who should get the small, precious supply of drugs that would be available.

The 400-page report details how the federal government would prepare for and respond to an influenza pandemic. When one hits the world — most experts don't say "if" anymore — health officials estimate it will kill 58,000 Canadians and hospitalize 138,000 others. Five million more will require outpatient care and 10.6 million will be sick enough to miss work.

These days, most experts believe a strain of the avian flu, which has already decimated poultry stocks in Southeast Asia and killed at least 39 people there, is the most likely candidate to become that global killer.

This week, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control called it the single greatest threat to the world today and "a very ominous situation for the globe."

On Wednesday, Canada's federal budget provided $34 million to develop a mock vaccine against the strain of the virus called H5N1, which is spread from bird to human, but which experts believe could quickly mutate to be spread easily from person to person.

"It's infected cats, mice, pigs, people," said Dr. Donald Low, chief microbiologist at Mount Sinai Hospital. "If you're a betting person, you'd have to say this virus is the one we have to be most concerned about."

Both Canada and Ontario have developed lengthy plans outlining how and what should be done to prepare for a pandemic of this magnitude.

The federal plan spells out who should get antiviral drugs and vaccines if they are in limited supply, guidelines for controlling it in hospitals, how health officials will communicate with each other and the public, and exactly who will be in charge of each area.

Since local health authorities will likely be the first to detect an influenza outbreak, "it is essential that the lines of communication within the community and up the line to the provincial and federal levels are clear and established in advance of a pandemic," it says.

But experts like Low warn it isn't enough.

"Many municipalities probably haven't even thought of this, let alone hospitals and businesses," he said. "The Toronto Stock Exchange should be writing a pandemic influenza plan. They have to continue to have people working. How are they going to ensure that? Are they going to stockpile drugs for their employees?"

Pandemics — worldwide epidemics — occur every 30 to 40 years. The last one was the Hong Kong flu in 1968, so health experts say we're overdue. They believe the most likely place it will originate is in Southeast Asia because animals and people co-mingle there.

A pandemic would likely hit Canada about three months after it hit Southeast Asia and would come in waves of six weeks, returning two to three months later, said Dr. Karim Kurjee, Ontario's associate chief medical officer of health, who has been heavily involved in drawing up the province's own pandemic plan, released last May.

"Many people think it would be a little like a flash flood, a large number of deaths in a few weeks," he said. "It certainly is quite a scary situation."

When the pandemic hits, two measures will be most effective against it — expensive anti-viral drugs and a vaccine. But there are problems with both. Only one anti-viral drug, oseltamivir or tamiflu, can be used to both treat the seriously ill and prevent the virus but it's expensive and in short supply. Only one company, Hoffman LaRoche, holds the patent to produce it and every country that can afford it wants it.

This month, Canada announced it has spent $24 million to stockpile 9.6 million doses of the drug, which will be topped up to about 16 million doses with contributions from the provinces and territories.

Ontario already has 1.5 million doses, but a single course of treatment takes 10 doses and costs about $60. It also has to be taken within 48 hours of showing symptoms. The drug can also be used for prevention, but it takes 42 doses over six weeks to be effective.

Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada's medical officer of health, says that even if Canada could get a large enough supply, it would cost $3 billion to provide anti-virals to everyone in the country. But the drugs don't make people immune, so three to six months later when it returned, they would have to take them all over again.

"It really doesn't make sense to rely on anti-virals," he said, "plus the virus could turn out to be resistant to them, and then you've spent $3 billion for nothing."

Under the federal and provincial plans, the drugs would be made available to treat seriously ill patients in hospital, and as a preventive measure for frontline health-care workers and those in other essential services, including government decision makers. The aim is to use the drugs to ward off the virus while workers scramble frantically to produce enough vaccine for everyone.

"The general strategy, when we actually get a pandemic, will be to throw everything at it to try to delay its speed," said Kurjee. "The more time you can buy, the closer you are to getting a vaccine. It's a little like a military strategy."

Canada prides itself on being the only country in the world that has a long-term contract with a vaccine manufacturer, Vancouver-based ID Biomedical, to produce a vaccine for every Canadian when a pandemic hits.

The company has to stockpile all the raw materials and supplies needed to begin rapid production. Since vaccines are grown in eggs, enough egg suppliers have to be contracted so that enough chickens of the right age are on hand to produce enough eggs in which to grow vaccine for 32 million doses.

But even with that in place, it would take six to nine months to produce enough vaccine, said Butler-Jones.

Unlike the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which has chosen to develop and stockpile 2 million doses of a real vaccine against H5N1, Canada is choosing a different route because officials believe the virus will change before it becomes more deadly, and the exact strain of a virus must be identified before a vaccine can be created.

That's why Ottawa has decided to invest in producing trial batches of a vaccine, which will speed up the production process once a pandemic strikes, Butler-Jones said.

Stockpiling vaccine against the current virus doesn't make sense because it "quite likely won't be effective anyway. We think it's much better to have a responsive system, whatever the virus, to get to manufacturing quickly."

The Ontario plan contains ominous numbers. If a pandemic affected 25 per cent of the population as predicted, that would lead to 14,000 deaths in the province and 46,000 hospitalizations, Kurjee said.

Another 2.3 million would require outpatient care and 3 million more would get mildly sick.

Canada has SARS to thank for the level of preparedness it has against that threat.

"In terms of influenza, Canada's been planning for many years now," said Butler-Jones. "The WHO (World Health Organization) tells other countries to look at Canada to see what they should be doing.

The U.S. looked at our plan and said `why would we re-invent this?' So they adapted it."

As well as the federal plan, Ottawa has just opened a $3 million emergency operations centre in Winnipeg that includes a five-metre-wide video screen along with computers and a bank of telephones.

It will allow health officials across the country to hold video conferences and share data with the WHO, the U.S. Centers for Disease control and other international groups.

Ottawa has also just revamped the Quarantine Act to give the chief public health officer power to divert planes and take temporary possession of buildings to quarantine planeloads of visitors .

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...id=970599119419
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ARUBI

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At this link you can click on the various sections and annexes for details.


http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/cpip-pclcpi/index.html


Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan

Table of Contents
Table of Contents
Preface
Section One: Introduction
Section Two: Background
Section Three: Preparedness
Section Four: Response
Annexes
Annex A: Glossary of Terms
Annex B: Pandemic Influenza Planning Considerations in First Nations Communities
Annex C: Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan: Laboratory Procedures
Annex D: Recommendations for Pandemic Vaccine Use in a Limited Supply Situation
Annex E: Planning Recommendations for the Use of Antivirals (Anti-Influenza Drugs) in Canada During a Pandemic
Annex F: Infection Control and Occupational Health Guidelines During Pandemic Influenza In Traditional and Non-Traditional Health Care Settings
Annex G: Clinical Care Guidelines and Tools
Annex H: Resource Management Guidelines for Health Care Facilities During an Influenza Pandemic
Annex I: Guidelines for the Management of Mass Fatalities During an Influenza Pandemic
Annex J: Guidelines for Non-Traditional Sites and Workers
Annex K: Communications Annex
Annex L: Federal Emergency Planning Documents

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Preface
Influenza A viruses periodically cause worldwide epidemics, or pandemics, with high rates of illness and death. Advanced planning for a large scale and widespread health emergency is required to optimize health care delivery during a pandemic. Unlike other public welfare emergencies, an influenza pandemic will impact on multiple communities across Canada simultaneously. Each local jurisdiction must be prepared to respond in the context of uncertain availability of external resources and support. Therefore, contingency planning is required to mitigate the impact of an influenza pandemic through planning and preparation by the co-ordinated efforts of all orders of government in collaboration with their stakeholders.

The Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan (the Plan) consists of an introduction and a background section, followed by the preparedness, response and recovery sections, which are consistent with the general principals of emergency response. Each section aims to assist and facilitate appropriate planning at all levels of government for the next influenza pandemic. The Centre for Infectious Disease Prevention and Control (CIDPC), Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), Health Canada coordinated the development of the Plan in collaboration with the Centre for Emergency Preparedness and Response (CEPR), Health Canada, with direction from the Pandemic Influenza Committee (PIC).

The Plan and the annexed guidelines, checklists and other documents were developed to assist all jurisdictions with the main components of planning, including surveillance, vaccine programs, use of antivirals, health services, emergency services, public health measures and communications. The most effective public health intervention to mitigate the impact of a pandemic is through immunization with an effective vaccine against the novel virus, and, to a lesser extent, through the use of antiviral drugs. In addition, comprehensive planning requires that appropriate surveillance capacity is in place, and that the health sector, emergency services and communities as a whole are informed and equipped to deal with a pandemic.

The prevention and preparedness activities facilitate the response and recovery during and after an influenza pandemic. The response to a pandemic will require close cooperation between all levels of government. The response and recovery sections of the Plan were developed through a collaborative process between the Centre for Emergency Preparedness and Response, and the CIDPC, Health Canada. The response section of the Plan addresses the operational activities for an effective national response, including essential federal, provincial and territorial coordination. The recovery section provides guidance on coordinated post-event activities for the health and emergency response sectors.

The overall goal of pandemic influenza preparedness and response is first to minimize serious illness and overall deaths, and second to minimize societal disruption among Canadians as a result of an influenza pandemic.

The Plan is intended to be dynamic and iterative, and will be updated and revised regularly.


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INFORMATION NOTICE

The Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan (the Plan) was developed through a collaborative process between Federal, Provincial, Territorial, local and regional governments and non-government stakeholders.

Development of the Plan was coordinated by Health Canada with direction from the Pandemic Influenza Committee, a federal, provincial and territorial advisory committee. The Plan is provided for information purposes only as an outline for the planning, preparedness and response to pandemic influenza by governments within their respective roles and responsibilities.

Terms and definitions contained in the Plan are for convenience only. It is the User's responsibility to determine if any term or definition contained in the Plan is appropriate for the purposes for which it is intended to be used by the User.

DISCLAIMER

The views and recommendations expressed in the Plan represent a collaborative effort between Federal, Provincial, Territorial, local and regional governments and non-government stakeholders.

Users should seek their own legal advice in regards to their use of the information, views and recommendations contained in the Plan.
 

Delphinus

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There are a bunch of things that bother me about any vaccine plans for this flu.

1. It may not work. When the time comes that it becomes a pandemic, whatever vaccine they make now may not be a close enough match to be effective.

2. Even if it worked, there is no way that ANY country will have (or be able to make) a big enough supply to make even a small dent in the numbers that will be affected. There just aren't many companies making flu vaccine.

3. This is the one that bothers me most and is never mentioned. Making vaccine is dependant on eggs. This is an AVIAN FLU.....it kills chickens. If it really gets bad, everyone will be killing chickens by the millions (billions?) attempting to prevent/slow the spread....not to mention all the chickens that will die from the flu itself. Where the heck do they think they are going to get all these eggs needed to make the vaccine once the chickens are dying or being killed left and right??? :shr:
 

ARUBI

Inactive
Your Welcome.

I think I already posted this here, but will link again to keep them together.
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Pandemic Influenza Preparedness and Response Plan
US Aug. 2004 Dept. of Health and Human Services

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http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/pandemicpla...andemiccore.pdf
 

ARUBI

Inactive
The above link is 55 pages in detail.

This is a follow-up to the above draft;



News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, August 26, 2004
Contact: Sarah Landry, OPHS/NVPO
(202) 690-5566


HHS Issues National Pandemic Influenza Preparedness Plan
HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson today unveiled the department's draft Pandemic Influenza Response and Preparedness Plan, which outlines a coordinated national strategy to prepare for and respond to an influenza pandemic. The draft plan can be found online at http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/pandemicplan and is available for public comment for 60 days.

"This plan will serve as our roadmap on how we as a nation, and as a member of the global health community, respond to the next pandemic influenza outbreak, whenever that may be," Secretary Thompson said. "Our proposed strategy draws upon the wealth of experience and knowledge we have gained in responding to a number of recent public health threats, including SARS and avian influenza."

In particular, the plan provides guidance to national, state, and local policy makers and health departments for public health preparation and response in the event of pandemic influenza outbreak.

Influenza pandemics are explosive global events in which most, if not all, persons worldwide are at risk for infection and illness. While rare, the appearance of such a pandemic virus will likely be unaffected by currently available flu vaccines that are modified each year to match the strains of the virus that are known to be in circulation among humans around the world. Unlike the gradual changes that occur in the influenza viruses that appear each year during "flu season," a pandemic influenza virus is one that represents a major, sudden shift in the virus' structure that increases its ability to cause illness in a large proportion of the population. During previous influenza pandemics large numbers of people were ill, sought medical care, were hospitalized and died.

Three influenza pandemics occurred during the 20th century. The most recent influenza pandemic occurred in 1968 with the Hong Kong Flu outbreak, which resulted in nearly 34,000 deaths in the United States. In 1957, the Asian flu pandemic resulted in about 70,000 deaths. The most deadly influenza pandemic outbreak was the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, which caused illness in roughly 20 to 40 percent of the world's population and more than 50 million deaths worldwide. Between September 1918 and April 1919, approximately 675,000 deaths from the Spanish flu occurred in the United States alone.

Planning and implementing preparedness activities are critical to improving the effectiveness of a response and decreasing the impacts of a pandemic. HHS has increased support for pandemic influenza activities and is engaged in several efforts to enhance the nation's preparedness for such an outbreak. HHS supports pandemic influenza activities in five key areas: surveillance, vaccine development and production, antiviral stockpiling, research, and public health preparedness.

This draft plan includes a core section and twelve annexes. The core plan describes coordination and decision making at the national level; provides an overview of key issues; and outlines action steps that should be taken at the national, state, and local levels before and during a pandemic. Annexes provide additional information to health departments and private sector organizations for use in developing local preparedness plans as well as additional technical information to support the core document.

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Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are available at http://www.hhs.gov/news.

Last Revised: August 25, 2004
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Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
Okay. Let's see if I understand this correctly using these two quotes: "health officials estimate it will kill 58,000 Canadians", and "decimated poultry stocks in Southeast Asia and killed at least 39 people there".

Does this mean that Canada's health care system really sucks compared to China, or are the Canadians now counting domesticated fowl as citizens for some reason?

Can you say "chicken little"?

Best Regards,
Sub-Zero
 

ARUBI

Inactive
To find out each individual States plans, just go to most any search engine and type in

"the state" Influenza Pandemic Plan
 

ARUBI

Inactive
Sub-Zero,

No offence meant, but it would not seem that you have been following the progress of this flu situation.

I offered this threads info, for those who have followed and realize the potential seriousness...and those who may have an interest in getting up-to-date.

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This is the estimated deaths in the US. from Health and Human Services.


DEATHS

High-risk patients

0-19 years
0.13
7.7

20-64 years
0.1
5.7

65+ years
2.8
5.6

Other ("standard-risk") patients

0-19 years
.014
.13

20-64 years
.025
.09

65+ years
.28
.54


NOTES: (1) Estimates provided by M. Meltzer, N. Cox, and K, Fukuda, CDC [unpublished data]. (2) Estimates of the percentage of high-risk persons in each age group are as follows: 0-19 years [6-11%]; 20-64 years [14-25%]; 65+ years [40-55%]. (3) Length-of-stay for hospitalizations noted above are based on data for inter-pandemic years; these may be shorter (due to high demand) or longer (due to increased increased illness severity) during a pandemic.


http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/pubs/pandemicflu.htm#State


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And for the record, since the questions were brought up; This will cover Quality of Prep and eggs :D

Canada best prepared
for flu pandemic

By Stefanie Arduini
Producer: Jacques Krzepkowski

Dr. Earl Brown says Canada may not be as prepared for a flu pandemic as the WHO thinks it is.

OTTAWA | Jan. 28, 2005 — The next flu pandemic could kill as many as 100 million people, but Canadians need not worry, because Canada is the best prepared country in the world, says a senior World Health Organization advisor.

Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Chile are writing their own flu pandemic plans using Canada’s as a model, and the United States is adjusting its plan to reflect ours, says Dr. Otavio Oliva, the organization’s head advisor for viral diseases in the Americas.

"The Canadian plan is considered by us at WHO as a model, because it has all the components a pandemic plan should have," he says.

'The Canadian
plan is considered
by us at WHO
as a model
because it has all
the components
a pandemic plan should have.'
Experts can only speculate when the next influenza pandemic will hit. However, Dr. Oliva says, avian influenza will likely cause the next crisis, if the virus begins spreading to humans in greater numbers.

Strains of the avian flu have already caused small outbreaks among poultry workers and their families in Hong Kong.

Could kill thousands

Canada’s year-old pandemic plan warns that influenza could kill between 11,000 and 58,000 people, and as many as 10.6 million Canadians could fall ill.

A flu outbreak could kill more than 1,400 of the 774,000 people in Ottawa.

According to WHO, vaccines would be in short supply and emergency and medical facilities would become overwhelmed as doctors and health-care workers fell ill.

Poor nations would be hit the hardest, but Canada and the United States will still be affected, Dr. Oliva says.

A clear strategy is a good start, but Canadians would be virtually defenceless if a pandemic were to strike, says Ottawa viral geneticist Dr. Earl Brown.

Vaccines can only be prepared when a strain is known, and a vaccine would take months to develop, Dr. Brown says.

"There’d be almost an eight-month period without any real tool to deal with the pandemic. It takes six months now to produce a vaccine, and that’s when we have the virus in our hand ready to go."


Pandemic history

Trace the world's most serious flu pandemics and their effects in Canada.

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Influenza moves through a population in waves that last four to six weeks. A flu outbreak could pass through an entire wave with no treatment available.

History’s most devastating flu epidemic was the Spanish flu outbreak of 1918, which spread in three waves over a year and a half.

Future pandemic

Also, if the avian flu becomes the next pandemic, Canada’s egg supply could be at risk. The Public Health Agency of Canada, which authored the plan, says Canada has secured a safe supply of the chicken eggs that lab technicians use to grow vaccines. Canada’s over-reliance on chicken eggs instead of other tissue cultures could cause "glitches" in the national plan if the egg supply became infected, Dr. Brown says.

He also says he worries that Canada may not have enough anti-viral drugs stockpiled. If a pandemic hit, health care workers, the sick and the elderly would be at risk.

In Canada, two classes of anti-viral drugs are available. The drug of choice, prevents influenza from infecting healthy cells by blocking enzymes that spread the virus. But, at $50 per dose, Canadian government agencies are reluctant to maintain a large stockpile, Dr. Brown says.


A vaccine could take eight months to cultivate, leaving people unprotected for the first wave of the disease.
Canada has 850,000 doses of Oseltamivir but, if the national stockpile gets depleted during a pandemic, the country could be caught in a worldwide shortage, Dr. Brown says.

Still, Canada is better prepared than the United States, Australia or New Zealand. The Canadian plan is clear and well thought out, Dr. Oliva says.

The Public Health Agency of Canada has made the plan available online, so Canadians would be better informed in the event of an outbreak.

"This isn’t just us tooting our own horn," says Public Health Agency spokesperson, Aggie Adamczyk. "The World Health Organization has given us two thumbs up for our plan, the U.S. is modelling their plan on ours, and a lot of other countries agree."


http://temagami.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/28012005/n4.shtml
 

ARUBI

Inactive
One last bit of info, then I'll leave the thread to discussion.

Please consider, the majority of flu cases are not even reported as in testing.
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Flu activity continues to rise in USA, CDC
26 Feb 2005

During week 6 (February 6-12, 2005)*, influenza activity continued to increase in the United States. Nine hundred twelve (25.3%) specimens tested by U.S. World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) collaborating laboratories were positive for influenza viruses. The proportion of patient visits to sentinel providers for influenza-like illness (ILI) has been above the national baseline for 5 consecutive weeks. The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is below the epidemic threshold. There have been six influenza-associated pediatric deaths reported to CDC this season. Twenty-nine states reported widespread influenza activity, 19 states and New York City reported regional influenza activity, and 2 states and the District of Columbia reported local activity.

Laboratory Surveillance*:

During week 6, WHO and NREVSS laboratories in the United States reported testing 3,610 specimens for influenza viruses, of which 912 (25.3%) were positive. Of these, 180 were influenza A (H3N2) viruses, 603 were influenza A viruses that were not subtyped, and 129 were influenza B viruses.

Since October 3, WHO and NREVSS laboratories in the United States have tested a total of 73,412 specimens for influenza viruses and 9,361 (12.8%) were positive. Among the 9,361 influenza viruses, 7,953 (85.0%) were influenza A viruses and 1,408 (15.0%) were influenza B viruses. Two thousand five hundred thirty (31.8%) of the 7,953 influenza A viruses have been subtyped; 2,522 (99.7%) were influenza A (H3N2) and 8 (0.3%) were influenza A (H1N1) viruses. The percentage of specimens testing positive during the last 3 weeks has ranged from 9.6% in the Pacific region to 38.0% in the East North Central region**. The percentage of total isolates that are influenza type A virus is the highest in the New England (96%) and Mid-Atlantic (96%) regions. Influenza A viruses represent a smaller proportion of positive results in the other seven regions, ranging from 87% in the East South Central and East North Central regions to 63% in the Pacific region…. continues….cdc.gov/flu
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/med...p?newsid=20400#
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dreamseeer

Membership Revoked
Delphinus said:
There are a bunch of things that bother me about any vaccine plans for this flu.

1. It may not work. When the time comes that it becomes a pandemic, whatever vaccine they make now may not be a close enough match to be effective.

2. Even if it worked, there is no way that ANY country will have (or be able to make) a big enough supply to make even a small dent in the numbers that will be affected. There just aren't many companies making flu vaccine.

3. This is the one that bothers me most and is never mentioned. Making vaccine is dependant on eggs. This is an AVIAN FLU.....it kills chickens. If it really gets bad, everyone will be killing chickens by the millions (billions?) attempting to prevent/slow the spread....not to mention all the chickens that will die from the flu itself. Where the heck do they think they are going to get all these eggs needed to make the vaccine once the chickens are dying or being killed left and right??? :shr:

Really good thinking.

As to where they will get all the eggs....from quarantined chickens growing underground with no one coming in only eggs going out. Or, vaccinated chickens or cloned chickens or maybe cloned eggs......who needs the chicken, right?

Lots to think about that's for sure.
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
On Wednesday, Canada's federal budget provided $34 million to develop a mock[/ i]vaccine against the strain of the virus called H5N1, which is spread from bird to human, but which experts believe could quickly mutate to be spread easily from person to person.

MOCK???

And what's to say that humans won't get sick from eggs in uncooked items?
Are things like Mayo, Dressings, eggs sunny side up going to make folks sick?

Yikes!
 

y2kmisfit

Inactive
Sub-Zero said:
Okay. Let's see if I understand this correctly using these two quotes: "health officials estimate it will kill 58,000 Canadians", and "decimated poultry stocks in Southeast Asia and killed at least 39 people there".

Does this mean that Canada's health care system really sucks compared to China, or are the Canadians now counting domesticated fowl as citizens for some reason?

Can you say "chicken little"?

Best Regards,
Sub-Zero

Flus mutate and recombine with other types. Right now Avian flu rarely goes human-human. That will change. Not might change, but will change. Why?
Because that's what flu does.
 

y2kmisfit

Inactive
Delphinus said:
3. This is the one that bothers me most and is never mentioned. Making vaccine is dependant on eggs. This is an AVIAN FLU.....it kills chickens. If it really gets bad, everyone will be killing chickens by the millions (billions?) attempting to prevent/slow the spread....not to mention all the chickens that will die from the flu itself. Where the heck do they think they are going to get all these eggs needed to make the vaccine once the chickens are dying or being killed left and right??? :shr:

I'm not even sure that you can use eggs for an Avian Flu vaccine.
 

Delphinus

Inactive
ARUBI said:
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And for the record, since the questions were brought up; This will cover Quality of Prep and eggs :D


Also, if the avian flu becomes the next pandemic, Canada’s egg supply could be at risk. The Public Health Agency of Canada, which authored the plan, says Canada has secured a safe supply of the chicken eggs that lab technicians use to grow vaccines. Canada’s over-reliance on chicken eggs instead of other tissue cultures could cause "glitches" in the national plan if the egg supply became infected, Dr. Brown says.
I would love to believe that there is such a thing as a "safe supply of chicken eggs" to grow vaccines. What makes it safe? Unfortunately, the realities in the past year (both in Canada and abroad) say that even quarantined farms are not safe from the virus. It seems to pop up many miles from the nearest outbreak despite of all precautions.

Please convince me.
 

Delphinus

Inactive
y2kmisfit said:
I'm not even sure that you can use eggs for an Avian Flu vaccine.
You may also be correct. I think I have read that the avian virus is capable of infecting and killing eggs as well.
 
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