POL Elon and Twitter Tag Team to Bust Biden in Yet Another Lie

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Elon and Twitter Tag Team to Bust Biden in Yet Another Lie​


Nick Arama​




Joe Biden must hate that Elon Musk took over Twitter because now his lies and those of the Democrats are not going unanswered. People are allowed to respond and opponents are not getting shut down in the same way as they were before.

Now Twitter Community Notes will call out Biden to his face (well, to the face of his account) and not let him get away with some of the nonsensical claims that he has been making. It’s busted him in the past, such as on his continuing lie that Republicans are trying to push cuts in Social Security and Medicare, even though this has been debunked by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and Biden was even called out for this from the floor during his State of the Union address.
Biden (or whoever is behind the account) was at it again this weekend, posting a questionable statement about how much billionaires pay in taxes.

Look, I think you should be able to be a billionaire if you can earn it, but just pay your fair share.
I think you ought to pay a minimum tax of 25%.
It’s about basic fairness. pic.twitter.com/oHgreYCdUz
— President Biden (@POTUS) March 18, 2023

“Look, I think you should be able to be a billionaire if you can earn it, but just pay your fair share,” Biden tweeted. “I think you ought to pay a minimum tax of 25%. It’s about basic fairness.” The tweet cited one of his quotes, “You know the average tax billionaires pay? Three percent. No billionaire should be paying a lower tax than somebody working as a schoolteacher or a firefighter.”

He thinks you should be able to be a billionaire. Well, isn’t that nice? He’s going to let you. It isn’t up to him what you make, although some leftists seem to think they should get to decide that. Then that whole “fair share” just rankles me because he keeps saying it and it’s just so factually ignorant.

According to the independent, non-profit Tax Foundation:
Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data indicates that the wealthy in America are bearing the heaviest share of the income tax burden than in any time in recent memory. On the other hand, more than 53 million low- and middle-income taxpayers pay no income taxes after benefiting from record amounts of tax credits, and six out of 10 households receive more in direct government benefits than they pay in all federal taxes.

Twitter Community Notes wasn’t going to let that Biden false statement go by.
“This is incorrect,” the note said. Citing the Tax Foundation, they explained, “Avg income tax rate in 2020 was 13.6%. Top 1% of taxpayers paid a 25.99% avg rate, more than eight times higher than the 3.1% avg rate paid by the bottom half of taxpayers. It increased from 20.1%/2019 to 22.2%/2020.”

Translation? It’s the reverse of what Biden is claiming, it’s the bottom half paying that 3 percent number.
What Biden said even contradicted what the White House has claimed in the past, so he doesn’t even seem to be able to keep the lies straight. The White House has previously claimed that billionaires pay an average rate of just 8 percent, by trying to jack the numbers and include in unrealized gains. They said this in a “fact” sheet they released titled “The Biden Economic Plan Is Working” in February. You know with a title like that, what’s in it can’t amount to much. They also made the 8 percent claim in 2021, claiming the “wealthiest 400 billionaire families” paid an average of “just 8.2 percent of their income — including income from their wealth that goes largely untaxed…”
“Using the existing definition of taxable income, really rich people pay an average federal income tax rate in the mid-20s,” Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center senior fellow Howard Gleckman told PolitiFact in July. “If you want to include unrealized gains in your denominator, as the White House does, the average rate would go way down.”

Elon Musk wasn’t just leaving all the debunking to the Twitter Community Notes on this one, he also had a few things to say, based on his own experience.
I paid 53% taxes on my Tesla stock options (40% Federal & 13% state), so I must be lifting the average!
I also paid more income tax than anyone ever in the history of Earth for 2021 and will do that again in 2022.@CommunityNotes, is the 3% number cited above accurate?
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 18, 2023

“I paid 53% taxes on my Tesla stock options (40% Federal & 13% state), so I must be lifting the average! I also paid more income tax than anyone ever in the history of Earth for 2021 and will do that again in 2022.”
That’s the reality. But truth doesn’t serve the Biden/Democratic purpose of grabbing as much as they can from the wealthy and they’re trying to milk hatred of the rich here. That way they think they can keep spending like drunken sailors and impose their political agenda. But there’s even a limit on what billionaires have and how much they can grab from them, so if you think that this is just aimed at billionaires, you’re missing that this is about grabbing more from all of us.

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bassgirl

Veteran Member
Dang, 53% taxes. That is insane for anyone to have to pay.

Flat tax across the board for every citizen making a paycheck. Or better yet, pay a federal tax on stuff that is bought, ( like a state tax) And unless you are disabled, you should have to contribute some type of community service 10-20 hours per week, if on welfare. And pass a drug test monthly that they pay for themselves. it’s about $5 a per test, if read and done at the welfare office. no lab needed for the wal mart type pee tests.

Disabled and Seniors would be exempt. They either cannot, or have already done their part.

15% should be more than enough.
 

DFENZ

Contributing Member
Lies out of this admin are not news, sadly. And everyone on both sides knows it, so it really doesn't even move the needle for anyone. And the 'news' media doesn't seem to care either, which is the real problem.

BTW, where are all those 'fact checkers' that used to hang on Trump's every word? I would argue that my reference to 'fact checkers' is probably the first time anyone here has even heard that term being used in the last 2 years or so.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
Yep. But catching and correcting his lies is more than a full time job! Musk is gonna have to hire a few more people.

Summerthyme
Seems like there have to be plenty of woke geeks walking the streets of Palo Alto or in the Seattle environs now, but they're hardly the ones to take on a task about truthfulness.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
Dang, 53% taxes. That is insane for anyone to have to pay.

Flat tax across the board for every citizen making a paycheck. Or better yet, pay a federal tax on stuff that is bought, ( like a state tax) And unless you are disabled, you should have to contribute some type of community service 10-20 hours per week, if on welfare. And pass a drug test monthly that they pay for themselves. it’s about $5 a per test, if read and done at the welfare office. no lab needed for the wal mart type pee tests.

Disabled and Seniors would be exempt. They either cannot, or have already done their part.

15% should be more than enough.
There used to be an old hillbilly who sang a song on one of the Branson, MO introductory radio stations. The refrain went "If ten percent is enough for Jesus, it oughta be enough for Uncle Sam".
 

Murt

Veteran Member
There used to be an old hillbilly who sang a song on one of the Branson, MO introductory radio stations. The refrain went "If ten percent is enough for Jesus, it oughta be enough for Uncle Sam".
probably Ray Stevens

I wouldn't be surprised to hear biden use the term doubleplusgood to describe the economy
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Lies out of this admin are not news, sadly. And everyone on both sides knows it, so it really doesn't even move the needle for anyone. And the 'news' media doesn't seem to care either, which is the real problem.

BTW, where are all those 'fact checkers' that used to hang on Trump's every word? I would argue that my reference to 'fact checkers' is probably the first time anyone here has even heard that term being used in the last 2 years or so.
Maybe the fact checkers were all working out of China and they all died from Covid, the China flu.
 
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