CHAT Effects of Iran war … how fast gas prices going up in your area

Scrapman

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It's about to get worse, gas at rez was 4.49 that's 20 cents more than outside the rez . Usually 50 cents lower. I ask guy what that's about and he told me they had just got a delivery that morning at new prices.
If you do the math the next couple of days your going to see close to 5.00 gas here in western ny.
 
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Greatgrandad

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Not directly about the current "fuel" price, but I just read a study that stated at the "current" increased price of oil and petrochemicals has caused the average annual increase in costs per household to around $2,000. They stressed that increase is only the petro input increases and does not reflect additional production, manufacturing and transport costs that will drive household costs even higher.
 

Vegas321

Live free and survive
I just came back from a 3000 mile RV trip, through multiple states, getting 7 - 8 mpg in the rig. Wanna guess what I paid for gas at that rate?

Anyone want to swap gas bills for the month?
I was thinking about people who want to take long RV trips this summer. Don't think that will work very well.
Better to stay closer to home.
 

King Samson

I'm Here
I was thinking about people who want to take long RV trips this summer. Don't think that will work very well.
Better to stay closer to home.
Yeah, it was a bit painful. And what were the odds, the prices jump up a month before we go...

Filling up every 300 miles (sometimes once a day), with 40 gallons, was around $150 each time. And I think I filled up 8 or 9 times....

Oh well....that's the cost of living in a free country....
 

diesel85

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I got a few friends in the Old Forge area, and their business only survive during tourist season. Right now they are shaking in their boots if fuel keeps continuing to rise. I know of a gal that owns a BnB up there and she's already had a list of cancellations, some even out to the Fall months. Not looking good for those folks.
 
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Greatgrandad

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I got a few friends in the Old Forge area, and their business only survive during tourist season. Right now they are shaking in their boots if fuel keeps continuing to rise. I know of a gal that owns a BnB up there and she's already had a list of cancellations, some even out to the Fall months. Not looking good for those folks.

Very similar around this area, for many of these mountain small towns and areas are heavily dependent on tourism with numerous places for travel trailers, campers and motor homes. Because of Covid, many people either expanded their current camp lots, water and sewer connections and electric hookups, or several land owners newly developed some of their property for the first time. Most did so via loans. Now after a poor ski season, they are very worried the out-of-state tourist are cancelling and more is expected.

The impacts to these small mountain towns will be huge.
 

Firebird

Has No Life - Lives on TB
87 octane is now $4.39 in my area. Sadly, people aren't going to forget this come the midterms :(
 
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King Samson

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Everything needs to be kept in accurate perspective, and not get sucked into the narrative currently being pushed by the Liberal media.

Gas costs (overall, and not just the recent rise) is a small part of most people's budget. Maybe focus should be on the high percentage areas?

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Now do the math with this article:

Will Americans really pay $500 more for gas this year?​

Democrats running for reelection this year say President Donald Trump’s actions are hurting Americans’ wallets, with gasoline prices soaring since the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran.

“At a buck a gallon, every American driver is going to pay $500 more in gasoline prices at the pump this year,” Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., said March 20 on CNN.

Gasoline prices rose from an average national price under $3 a gallon before the Feb. 28 attack on Iran to almost $4 per gallon now, according to the GasBuddy gas price app.

A Markey spokesperson said if gasoline is $1 per gallon more than it was before the war and that trend persists, a household purchasing roughly 10 gallons a week or about 500 gallons for the year would pay $500 more.


$500 more PER YEAR, is only $10 a WEEK.... Many people blow more than that on Starbucks or bottled water, each week.
 

mecoastie

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Everything needs to be kept in accurate perspective, and not get sucked into the narrative currently being pushed by the Liberal media.

Gas costs (overall, and not just the recent rise) is a small part of most people's budget. Maybe focus should be on the high percentage areas?

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$500 more PER YEAR, is only $10 a WEEK.... Many people blow more than that on Starbucks or bottled water, each week.
So that is just for direct gasoline costs. What about the the impacts of additional transportation to for food and other goods? Additional heating costs? Potential increased electricity and other utilities? What does that add to your estimate?
 

rondaben

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Everything needs to be kept in accurate perspective, and not get sucked into the narrative currently being pushed by the Liberal media.

Gas costs (overall, and not just the recent rise) is a small part of most people's budget. Maybe focus should be on the high percentage areas?

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$500 more PER YEAR, is only $10 a WEEK.... Many people blow more than that on Starbucks or bottled water, each week.
Still untrue.

 

Greatgrandad

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While this thread is about "fuel" prices related to the increase in oil and nat gas related to the Iran war, one must always remember oil and petrochemicals are in most everything in our modern life. Therefore, there are numerous hidden cost "increases" that may not be as obvious as the daily gas/diesel prices we see. All these price increases add to the burdens of annual household costs.


"More than 6,000 everyday products are manufactured using oil and petrochemicals, making them vital to modern life, from clothing and pharmaceuticals to plastics and electronics. These items, often called petro-products, are derived from petroleum-based chemicals that fuel, clothe, and provide materials for countless industries."

This morning, our local reg gas price rose again from just two days ago and is now $4.39 with diesel at $5.59, but another station a few miles away is 20 cents higher.
 

King Samson

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What about the the impacts of additional transportation to for food and other goods? Additional heating costs? Potential increased electricity and other utilities? What does that add to your estimate?
All of those were going up, double digits, LAST year, when gas was in the $2's.... What do you attribute that to?
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
So, you're disagreeing that the increase in gas prices are just a small part of the monthly budget, like in the chart? If so, show me the real percentages.

Or, just continue your complaining about Trump..... Your choice.
Absolutely, and you know they contribute to most of the monthly expenses either directly (cost of gasoline for personal transport and nat. gas for heating/cooking) or indirectly.

This is summarized in the percentage of petroleum based products like oil and gas. When the price goes up with those products it effects everything.

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For transportation, petroleum based costs attribute for 90% of costs. This is all of the transportation of goods and services from production, processing/manufacturing, to market. These costs are a signicant portion of the increasing inflation and overall costs as those expenses are passed on to the consumer.

For housing, there is a moderate direct cost for utilities, approximately 5-15% of total housing costs. Indirect costs include mortgage rates (increased price of energy leads to inflation and higher interest rates) maintenance, insurance and services costs.

Food has lower direct cost increases with Fertilizer (currently significantly effected with loss of gulf production), Diesel, and processing/refrigeration. 10-30% of food costs are linked directly to energy cost for fertilizer, logistics, and processing.

The industrial/manufacturing costs have higher embedded energy costs typically 10-30% for chemicals, nat gas and petroleum inputs. These are directly passed along to consumers.

Because of the volatility of energy costs they are frequently removed from government inflation measures--i.e "core inflation". When the price of energy goes higher--which is driven by oil and nat gas--the price of everything goes higher.
 

WTSR

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4.19 in South Austin today.

My 2025 Colorado has E15 option from Factory so I'm going to start pumping 3 to 4 gallons of E85 saving 2 to 3 bucks or so a Tank. See how that works. Wish it had the Flex Fuel option.
 
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BornFree

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Just filled up today at $4.50 a Gallon. Still had 1/2 tank, but decided it may just keep going up. So fill up now.
 
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Masterchief117

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$3.79/gallon at the local stores six miles away from me. At a store 7 miles north of those stores, it's $3.99/gallon. This is for 87 octane unleaded with up to 10% ethanol. This is in SE Oklahoma.
 
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babysteps

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Regular was $5.16 at the local station today, 5.39 at the "cheap" station in the larger town nearby.
Diesel was $6.24.

Some days I merely dislike Oregon politics and other days I absolutely hate it.
 
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Greatgrandad

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Wife just came back from her appointment, and she says regular gas is now $4.52 vs $4.39 on Sunday, and diesel is now $5.75 vs $5.59 on Sunday.
 
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WTSR

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EIA report confirms large draws again. So we will see if the current prices hold out for awhile. If there is more massive draws in the coming weeks, then we might see record prices
 
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