HEALTH Does anyone else notice a trend to cookie cutter, "one size fits all", snap, simplistic medical advice?

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
These medical professionals DO NOT READ YOUR MEDICAL RECORD or know about, or base their advice upon more than what one or two of your health problems are, but feel totally superior to anything you do or say "because THEY are the doctor" to tell you how to solve your medical problems. When you have to gently "remind (read inform) them" that their advice "won't work" because of some other thing they apparently don't know about, they say you keep coming up EXCUSES why everything I advise won't work for everything I recommend!!


You say that at over 76, after 58 years of military medical care, I am toothless, morbidly obese (230lb) because I am too "sedentary" and eat wrong.. No s*** Doc, really? I am in a friggin' wheelchair, brilliant deduction! You say "I'm having you scheduled for educational sessions with a nutritionist and perhaps someone who can recommend an exercise program for you." Well, unless they are telephone appointments, I have no way of getting to a lot of appointments, I went out YESTERDAY, July 5th, my first time out of the house since FEBRUARY! No transportation other than emergency or maybe one appointment a month. Walk more you say? HAVE YOU SEEN THE CAT SCAN OF MY BACK WITH IT'S CRUSHED SPINAL CORD, SIR? NO? That's not your specialty? THAT keeps me from walking, standing, straightening my spine to reach up further than the first kitchen shelf without getting a stun gun shock to my spine. Hey Doc, did you KNOW that besides Type 2 Diabetes, I have had 4 or 5 heart attacks, am told I have congestive heart failure, and COPD ( I don't believe that) and am now having Surgeons telling me I am probably "not a good candidate for surgery". So, with TWO blown rotator cuffs that need surgery, a disintegrating right hip that needs a right hip replacement, and have, rheumatoid arthritis in both hands, biceps that need surgery because they are completely unattached to my arm bones at one end, and peripheral neuropathy rapidly turning both swollen legs and feet numb, plus an abdominal aortic aneurysm that no Doctor even mentions, let alone checks on, to see if it is getting bigger, you think I should be eating more salads, less meat and fat? Ya must have missed the part in my medical records that says I have Collagenous colitis and cannot eat salads, or rmost raw vegetables and few fruits without an uncontrollable, explosive diarrhea event happening about 30 minutes to an hour later? My pelvic SI Joints have been painfully "out" since I fell on ice in front of the MAMC Hospital door 14 years ago. (coughing , sneezing, or tightening stomach muscles, anytime, even sitting, outlines those SI pelvis joints in a thankfully transient but vivid agony of pain)

You Doc, are worried about my cholesterol numbers?, Did you read in my record that I am deathly allergic to cholesterol medications, which swell my throat closed? Are you aware I have obstructive sleep apnea and am on a BI-PAP at night WITH oxygen? Pain is a constant companion in varying degrees from utterly immobilizing down to excruciating and progressively downward to the least amount when I just sit still. My meds keep me just able to tolerate what pain I endure to shower, dress, cook for myself, wash dishes, and wash clothes., I can do a little more but only while sitting in a step-stool chair, not standing or walking. But cheer up, I haven't even got it on the medical record yet that my hearing is going, along with my sense of balance, Any "exercise" would have to be carefully circumscribed to fit mymobility limitations. BUT I CELEBRATE THAT MY EYESIGHT IS GETTING BETTER every day! (i used to be really useless without my glasses (nearsighted) but AGE has made my vision almost 20/20 now!

I really do DO AS MUCH AS I CAN just to "get by" and cope with my situation, THANK GOD he has "carried" me through the most difficult parts, (and he was also probably carrying me through those parts I thought I was sufficient to meet myself)

He makes my spirit SOAR with joy, peace and freedom from worry, fear, and depression when at times the devil whispers I have "every right" to be unhappy, He (God) will respond "Yes, you have 'every right' but I have reserved your right and reasons NOT to be unhappy or fearful, if you do not WANT and choose to be! And so, like now, He

"re-floats my sinking boat!"
 
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FireDance

TB Fanatic
I am very lucky that my Dr. actually listens to what I say.
Well, actually mine does too. Because if they don’t they are replaced. There ARE good docs out there.

However, I probably see more moron doctors than a lot of people. Argue over everything. Won’t entertain a valid idea and so on. And the older the patient is, the worse it is.
 
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naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The last doctor said all my tests were normal. The one today looking at the same tests, said I was very dehydrate in my last visit based on their same tests. visit

People like to come up with conspiracy theories. But the truth is that doctors are mostly stupid. They want to put us in boxes and send us away.
 

Grouchy Granny

Deceased
Yeah - I argue with my "quack" all the time. Especially when he wants to prescribe medication I have no intentions of ever taking. We have arguments about it every time I'm in his office.

Practicing is indeed the word, because they don't want to listen to the patient who knows their body far better than they ever will!
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I have more than once told my doc that "If it makes HIM feel better he can write the script." Bob knows better.

I met him when he was some kinda younger and pretty open and loose with other medical people (I was working in an ICU).

We've gotten along well for the last 30 years and now he's up and retiring!!!.

LAST time he stopped seeing patients (in order to build the Cleveland Clinic Medical School) 2 days later I had my stroke.

Better not have a repeat on this in November.


I do best with DO's who LISTEN and follow the Osteopathic process...
 

JF&P

Deceased
I am blessed to have a team of Doctors looking over each others shoulder at my issues....a cardiologist and his PA, A regular internist and his PA, and a Vascular Surgeon and her PA....and the best insurance money can buy....and yes its all because of smoking.
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
i agree 100%.

remember, medicine is $$$ Big Business, i found that out when i got cancer. i learned there is a big difference between the $$$ white coats and real doctors. who not ony listen but pay attention. real doctors work for your healing, whitye coats just prescribe.
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#1 white coats dont like to be questioned
#2 if you question a white coat you are marked as 'uncooperative'
#3 white coats like to give pills and run tests you dont want or need
#4 white coats want you to keep coming back, not vested in your healing
#4 white coats repeat what theyve been told, real doctors arer still willing to learn, even from their patients
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
i agree 100%.

remember, medicine is $$$ Big Business, i found that out when i got cancer. i learned there is a big difference between the $$$ white coats and real doctors. who not ony listen but pay attention. real doctors work for your healing, whitye coats just prescribe.
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#1 white coats dont like to be questioned
#2 if you question a white coat you are marked as 'uncooperative'
#3 white coats like to give pills and run tests you dont want or need
#4 white coats want you to keep coming back, not vested in your healing
#4 white coats repeat what theyve been told, real doctors arer still willing to learn, even from their patients
Absolutely. I had a REAL doc in Montana, and one here & she retired. I doubt I will ever find another here.
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
This may sound stupid but I drive 160 miles 1 way to my Dr every 3 months. People ask me why would you drive that far to see your Dr? I tell them I am a Retired Paramedic. When a Paramedic finds a Dr who takes the time, asks the necessary questions and will actually listen to his patients and explains to them everything in a way they understand, he is keeper. I have had Dr's tell me straight out that I have seen, and I am not lying they were nothing more then pill pushers and told me I knew more about the interactions of meds he was prescribing me then they did. My wife an RN grabbed me and said lets get out of here now. Your not going back to him. We will find someone else. Always folks always look up the medication and reactions and interactions to other meds you are taking. You may save your life and find out the fella that is passing those scripts is not worth seeing, Medical errors were the third leading cause of death in America in 2018 with over 250,000 thousand deaths. Just sayin.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I wish I had the confidence to ALWAYS go with my "inner gut" feeling or Holy Spirit's leading? when I get the message "DON'T TAKE THAT MEDICINE!" I can't tell you how many times it later turned out that they discover those new medicines my doctor wanted me to take are later recalled for deadly or serious side effects that are only discovered a little later, two to five years after they have been out.

I have finally told my doctor that I will not take any new medication that has not been on the market for at least three years!

CAN ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT "NATUROPATHS?" OR "Wholistic medicine?"
Does anyone on the board go to or use a Naturopath?
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Lol on the meds! I’m the same way. If it’s not been on the market a while I stay away from it.

Your best friend is your pharmacist. You need to find a good one of those too. I always try to find a mom n pop pharmacy because they are not simply slinging pills all day and will generally keep a weather eye on what you’re taking. They also have time to talk to you. I avoid Walmart and CVS (especially!) because they’re too busy. CVS corporate apparently makes up great rules that make it IMHO almost non-operational. Error rates go up astronomically in these busy busy settings.

IF you get a new script I advise getting your doc to print out whatever they send to your pharmacy electronically so you can check and make sure that’s what they say they filled on the label and then taking one of the tablets out and google the letters and numbers that appear on the tablet to make sure that’s what they put in the bottle. Make sure labels match your script directions from doctor.

If you will be taking the Med a long time you will learn what the pill looks like UNTIL they use another manufacturer to fill it with. Again. Do. Not. Ever. Assume. they have put the correct pill in the bottle. Ever. Recheck it. Probably IS simply a manufacturer change, but you can’t assume.

If you have any problems with a Med ALWAYS call your pharmacist and talk to them about it first. You can usually solve a “mystery” doing that. But after you talk to them either call your doc if it’s a “super” problem or have pharmacy do it if you don’t feel comfortable doing it. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU PUT ANYTHING IN YOUR MOUTH.

Everyone makes errors. Everyone. Most are unintentional. Some are just plain stupidity (not knowing what you are doing). Combine those two things and you have DANGER.
 
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