INSANITY Depravity of a Seven Year Old Murderer in Texas
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Profit of Doom
Dismember
Having a father is useful, as well.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Posting the TEN COMMANDMENTS
BOTH in the classroom and in the home
So that children at least get informed that there
IS a God and HE says you shall not murder, or steal, or lie, and shall honor your mother and father etc.!
(or else)
How many kids nowadays have even NEVER heard of
the Ten Commandments!?
BOTH in the classroom and in the home
So that children at least get informed that there
IS a God and HE says you shall not murder, or steal, or lie, and shall honor your mother and father etc.!
(or else)
How many kids nowadays have even NEVER heard of
the Ten Commandments!?
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
most.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Do you honestly think that child got up that morning with the thought of "Oh I can't wait to kill somebody today"?
Oh is it more likely that he LIVED in a home where he was CONSTANTLY exposed to:
- guns--not respected as means of self-defense but only as means of POWER over others
- violence (real as well as depicted on TV)
- threatening language (we've all seen the videos of how the GTR's act when arguing, though I do not know that this boy was black, but some above hinted they believed that to be the case) "I'm gonna eff you up! You touch me I'm gonna eff you up!"
- utter lack of respect for other persons and their property (at age 8, I KNEW not to just "wander" into a neighbor's house--I would have been terrified of merely trespassing on their LAWN unless I was going to visit them or had some other legitimate business there!)
- utter lack of respect for LIFE
- the idea that using a gun against others makes you a "big man"
All those are BEHAVIORS, too--or thought-patterns that LEAD to corresponding behaviors.
ALL behaviors BEGIN with a thought.
And those in a child's earliest environment teach those children HOW & WHAT to think.
And SOMETHING in that child's environment taught him to think "Gee, I wonder what would happen if I took this gun an shot somebody with it" and left him with NO "guards" in his thinking or morals that ANYTHING about doing that would be utterly WRONG.
We are born with a God-given conscience.
But how that conscience is TRAINED becomes a matter of those who are training us FROM birth.
In some countries, that training includes the idea that killing and eating your enemies for dinner is ok.
In others, that training includes the idea that killing Jews the way you'd stomp on a roach, is fine.
In some countries, husbands beating your wives as a form of 'punishment' is perfectly good.
In some cultures, rape of women is not a problem--especially if they're from Israel.
Little children grow UP in these cultures SEEING this.
They INTERNALIZE it.
And they act on it.
There--and here.
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Reasonable Rascal
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Proselytize all you want but I do have a decent background in pysch, both education-wise and with regards to real-life work experience. Besides her major my wife had double minors: pysch and soc. There is far more understanding of some of these issues in this house than you can imagine or argue against.
At another time I had a boy in my Scout troop back in AZ. After several years his mother finally admitted that he was diagnosed as a sociopath, as was his bio father. Despite all his mother and stepfather could do, and we as adult leaders did, he turned into a criminal because he chose to engage in such behavior as a matter of choice, not environment.
He did not have a conscience, even with regards his own little brother; he was wired that way from birth. Not that a serious effort was not made to help him develop one over the course of more years than the perp in the OP has ever yet lived.
RR
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Some arguments have been made that the personality of a child is set by the age of 6 months. It may be something they pickup from seeing how their parents interact with things and folks. Part of the whole insanity runs in families. Knowing that many disorders are sets of learned behaviors, not something genetic in nature.
Though some do break the mould and others do their own thing regardless of what they are given...
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Can they count that high?
Reasonable Rascal
Veteran Member
Indeed. Hardly set in stone though. There have been arguments for super shock probation as well, but real life says that one isn't worth the paper needed to publish it either.
The 'everything is a learned behavior' argument only means that everyone after Adam and Eve were really messed up and taught their off-spring. Pretty sure Cain didn't learn how to murder from his parents. But left-leaning types will cry and wail when Johnny turns out to be Big Bad John and is on trial for murder. Because he had a bad childhood, rotten home life, was disadvantaged, had food allergies, and more.
Some disorders are learned, some are wired in. And in some people personality traits are deliberately developed and encouraged. Certain anti-social totalitarian regimes come handily to mind as making use of same.
RR
As an adopted child who spent the first 14 months of my life in an orphanage, I'll say it can also result in an INTJ!
As far as the original, horrible story, I think what bothers me the most isn't that he killed a man at 7. The fact he somehow got away with it is REALLY nuts... it speaks to either a child who has been completely ignored at home (knowing nothing about the case, I still suspect that will be the case, here), or else a criminal IQ in genius range, and zero empathy or conscience to restrain him. But the worst for me, in terms of thinking of proper punishment, is the fact he understood completely what shooting that man meant, and apparently found it enjoyable to use it to terrorize other kids!
This kid should be put down for his own good and the good of society.
Summerthyme
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
First--of course no one has to "Teach" their kids to do wrong--ALL OF US are born "wired" to do that.
YOU and ME and ALL of us.
What has to be TAUGHT is to teach AGAINST that--to teach kids to do what is RIGHT.
When that isn't done--natural sin nature does what sin does.
As for your second point:
Some disorders are learned, some are wired in. And in some people personality traits are deliberately developed and encouraged.
I would very very much like to hear your criteria for determining which..................is which.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Sadly, if we were to follow Mosaic law (God's Torah)
Then yes, he would have to die, because he has committed murder, and it wasn't an accident, it was deliberate.
And given what becoming a murderer at so young an age has revealed about how badly his conscience is already seared--maybe it would be more merciful to him, as well, to do so.
Reasonable Rascal
Veteran Member
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Been there, done that. You are absolutely right.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I hate to say it bue get rid of the differentiation between a child being charged and an adult being charged. Make it all one rule book. Once the first few ghetto rats get offed publically, and word gets around things will change possibly...
Me too. Until you see a true 3 year old psychopath you ain’t seen nuthin. I lasted 3 months on that unit. It was very, very frightening. People have no idea.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Many foster parents deal with it daily. The lack of facilities means the system lies about a child's diagnoses or refuses to properly diagnose a kiddo so they can stay in a home. Though in my dealings as a foster parent I just made sure they were run ragged trying to keep up with me and therefore too tired to start anything and if they did we went to work outside for a little bit.
I had two psychos I had to work with back to back. Sleeping with one eye open for a few months makes you lose your sanity for a while. Especially when foster care acts just like your employer from a managerial perspective.
I always called it fostering the next young generation of sociopaths and psychopaths... The system refused to treat the disorder properly and with no stern consequences to the kiddo. In fact encouraging more bad behavior as they thought getting attention and moving after acting out was a reward to them. And why I am of the opinion to get rid of the family court system and just roll it into the regular court system after enough high profile examples get life in prison for being naughty little butt wipes, things will change. BUt more specifically I think public shaming and executions need to return to really change thinking as then parents can take their kiddos to town square and watch the latest idiot on display and tell them, don't be like THAT idiot, and it can be you if YOU do not shape up.