CORONA Covid 19 vaccines and the misinterpretation of perceived side effects clarity on the safety of vaccines

[NCGirl]

Except, it’s not really gene therapy any more than eating a cheeseburger or sitting in the sun all day alters your genes. Scientists estimate your DNA accumulates trillions of mutations every day, even moreso if you drink or fly in a plane. Somehow, we’re not all big bags of cancer, LOL! Human adaptation is actually a pretty cool thing to study.

Alls I’m saying here, is 6 billion people are not going to drop dead in a few years, as much as some of us would like that. We’re gonna need a MUCH better pandemic.

And if someone wanted to poison the population, this was one of the most backasswards and least efficient way to do it. They’d put it in something innocuous people already consume, like soda, and call it a day without all the fuss.

agreed! There’s caution, and then there’s fear mongering. A whoooooole lotta fear mongering going on!

The ‘rona ain’t killin e’erbody, just like the jabby jab ain’t gonna getcha. It’s a roll of the dice either way.

NCGirl (I don’t know how to do multi replies yet) if they kill us all off, who are they gonna steal from and get to do the dirty work? They need us more than we need them.

I don't think we are all gonna die from the vaccine. I'm in the middle camp and open to listening to both sides if they don't act like a fool. For example Rondoban... I consider him to be more worthless than a 50 year old broken down Ford Pinto, and probably more dangerous. But anyhoooo, if they did kill most of us useless eaters off, thye have robots that can do the work we do for a lot less hassle and their way of life would barely change. Actually, I think they believe they would be better off without all us consuming and poluting their earth.

I do think it somewhat likely that they believe that sterilizing MANY of the young may be the kind and compassionate way to do things. I understand that fertility is way down over the last few decades and may very well be accelerating recently. Perhaps not planned. Or maybe it is....

 

[rondaben]

I can really only use anecdotal evidence, and maybe it’s just a difference in areas, but several of my very good friends are in the medical field, and they’re just not seeing it. The two I talk with most frequently about regarding Covid stuff, One is a level 3 trauma nurse at Parkland, another an anesthesiologist at Cooke childrens (both HUGE hospitals in DFW area). Their experiences, of course were very different, but the aftermath has been fairly tame. I asked about the myocarditis, and they both said the same, younger boys seem to get it the most (which is why I will not vaxx mine), but they haven’t seen any surge beyond what they’ve normally seen.

When it comes to reporting side effects, a LOT is being overblown.

Agree. I'm not seeing it either.

 

[rondaben]

I don't think we are all gonna die from the vaccine. I'm in the middle camp and open to listening to both sides if they don't act like a fool. For example Rondoban... I consider him to be more worthless than a 50 year old broken down Ford Pinto, and probably more dangerous. But anyhoooo, if they did kill most of us useless eaters off, thye have robots that can do the work we do for a lot less hassle and their way of life would barely change. Actually, I think they believe they would be better off without all us consuming and poluting their earth.

I do think it somewhat likely that they believe that sterilizing MANY of the young may be the kind and compassionate way to do things. I understand that fertility is way down over the last few decades and may very well be accelerating recently. Perhaps not planned. Or maybe it is....

So salty....

 

[Kewpie]

I don't think we are all gonna die from the vaccine. I'm in the middle camp and open to listening to both sides if they don't act like a fool. For example Rondoban... I consider him to be more worthless than a 50 year old broken down Ford Pinto, and probably more dangerous. But anyhoooo, if they did kill most of us useless eaters off, thye have robots that can do the work we do for a lot less hassle and their way of life would barely change. Actually, I think they believe they would be better off without all us consuming and poluting their earth.

I do think it somewhat likely that they believe that sterilizing MANY of the young may be the kind and compassionate way to do things. I understand that fertility is way down over the last few decades and may very well be accelerating recently. Perhaps not planned. Or maybe it is....

Robots aren’t that easy either! My husband is currently working with a company in Brazil to build a robot welder (I don’t know the details, but it’s supposed to require minimal human involvement) for a very specific type of welding, basically welding outlets onto pipes for fire sprinklers, and they’ve been working on it for a year and only have…the base and legs built, LOL. It’s gonna take years to develop.

I’m very middle of the road myself, but the fear mongering is insane. Just present all the facts and let people decide for themselves. No mandates, no twisting of info to coerce people to your side. Just a big ol’ helping of personal responsibility. Ya know.

And I’m ok with a little bit of sterilization. Too many damn people as it is!

 

[wobble]

So salty....

Very serious matter but it made me giggle...sorry

I think you are supposed to savor that flavor...

 

[rondaben]

I’m very middle of the road myself, but the fear mongering is insane.

APOSTATE! BURN THE WITCH! Lol..

 

[mistaken1]

Prefix needs to be COVID.

Please fix it. Thanks.

I do not see an edit button (24 hour window?).
Is there another way to change it that I am not aware of?

 

[mistaken1]

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If we were still following the rules that were considered normal 30 years ago, these vaxes would have been pulled and banned in the first week after release. The Swine Flu vaccine killed FIVE people and they shut it down immediately. Apparently, humans are now in over supply, and they just don't care about deaths anymore.

If they wanted everyone to die and not having the vax would cause everyone to die of covid why not use a few vax deaths as the excuse to pull the entire vax mandate and let billions die of covid?

Or did they know covid would not cause the deaths they wanted but the vax will so they mandated it?
(now you can distribute death shots or saline shots to geographical areas as determined by them)

Or was the money transfer to big pharma the most important thing so they kept the mandate going regardless of vax deaths?

Or was it simply and exercise in control and conditioning so they kept the mandate going regardless of vax deaths?

Or there is some other reason to inject the world with whatever was injected into them and covid made a great excuse to do so?

Or was it simply an unholy combination of greed, power lust, fear and ignorance that led to a human disaster of unprecedented scope?

 

[raven]

Except, it’s not really gene therapy any more than eating a cheeseburger or sitting in the sun all day alters your genes. Scientists estimate your DNA accumulates trillions of mutations every day, even moreso if you drink or fly in a plane. Somehow, we’re not all big bags of cancer, LOL! Human adaptation is actually a pretty cool thing to study.

Alls I’m saying here, is 6 billion people are not going to drop dead in a few years, as much as some of us would like that. We’re gonna need a MUCH better pandemic.

And if someone wanted to poison the population, this was one of the most backasswards and least efficient way to do it. They’d put it in something innocuous people already consume, like soda, and call it a day without all the fuss.

agreed! There’s caution, and then there’s fear mongering. A whoooooole lotta fear mongering going on!

The ‘rona ain’t killin e’erbody, just like the jabby jab ain’t gonna getcha. It’s a roll of the dice either way.

NCGirl (I don’t know how to do multi replies yet) if they kill us all off, who are they gonna steal from and get to do the dirty work? They need us more than we need them.

If corona is no problem,
then a vax for it is unnecessary intrusion.

 

[summerthyme]

FYI


Yep... sounds perfectly harmless to me!

BTW, my 41 year old DSIL's identical twin brother developed severe heart arrhythmia 24 hours after his first booster. He has since developed intractable afib... ablation and meds have don't nothing. He WAS a marathon runner. He now can barely keep up with his teaching job. He's been told by his cardiologist that the vax absolutely is to blame, and to never get another booster.

Summerthyme

 

[Kewpie]

If corona is no problem,
then a vax for it is unnecessary intrusion.

Then don’t get one.

See? Simple.

 

[raven]

Then don’t get one.

See? Simple.

I didn't
But please do get another booster.

 

[Kewpie]

I didn't
But please do get another booster.

I havent had a booster, but ok.

 

[raven]

I havent had a booster, but ok.

If you are a believer then you have had the jab and every booster offered.
Its safe. Its effective. It will keep you from getting the corona.
You cannot, as a honest broker, stand up and advocate vax and not be fully booster'd
It is mandated after all.

 

[Kewpie]

If you are a believer then you have had the jab and every booster offered.
Its safe. Its effective. It will keep you from getting the corona.
You cannot, as a honest broker, stand up and advocate vax and not be fully booster'd
It is mandated after all.

I’ve had 2 shots, and I’m probably good with that. I haven’t had the rona since, and I’ll be testing that theory end of January when I’m on a floating Petri dish for a week. We’ll see!

And I don’t *have* to do anything. There are no mandates, so I will *choose* to do whatever I want.

I’m not advocating anything, I’m giving me personal opinion. It doesn’t matter to me who gets no jabs or who gets 5, that’s their choice. But cowering in fear and prophesying imminent widespread death over a vaccine is a little silly.

 

[raven]

I’ve had 2 shots, and I’m probably good with that. I haven’t had the rona since, and I’ll be testing that theory end of January when I’m on a floating Petri dish for a week. We’ll see!

And I don’t *have* to do anything. There are no mandates, so I will *choose* to do whatever I want.

I’m not advocating anything, I’m giving me personal opinion. It doesn’t matter to me who gets no jabs or who gets 5, that’s their choice. But cowering in fear and prophesying imminent widespread death over a vaccine is a little silly.

I'm sorry but that is not good enough.
If you are a believer in the vax and its safety and efficacy and the the CDC and government mandates,
then
you are not following mandated health protocols. You vax passport is out of date.
You are in violation.
You should get you self down to the health department and booster up.
Get er done Corn Pop.

 

[mistaken1]

Then don’t get one.

See? Simple.

When government and business mandates require a vax or lose your job or forfeit participation in society it is not that simple.
When will the vaxxed stop pretending that others have a simple choice to not take the vax?

 

[Cacheman]

And I don’t *have* to do anything. There are no mandates, so I will *choose* to do whatever I want.

Your opinion on being forced by mandate or lose your job would be appreciated, you didn't have to, any comment on those that did?

 

[mistaken1]

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And I don’t *have* to do anything. There are no mandates, so I will *choose* to do whatever I want.

I believe a number of mandates are still in place.

Biden admits the pandemic is over — but his vax mandate risks military readiness

About 16,000 servicemembers have applied for an exemption to Biden’s vaccine mandate over the past year. Fewer than 20 exemptions have been approved.

nypost.com

22 states ask feds to repeal COVID vaccine mandate for health care workers

GOP state attorneys general from 22 states are demanding the Biden administration repeal a "draconian" federal COVID vaccine mandate for Medicare and Medicaid providers.

www.foxnews.com

If you mean no mandates for you personally then I misunderstood that part. My employer has their mandate in place however they are only enforcing the 'no hire without fully vaxxed' part of it at this time.

 

[raven]

You are either "fully" vaxed and booster'd
or
You are "Not Vaxed"

There is no grey area of "I kind of had one or two shots"

 

[Kewpie]

Your opinion on being forced by mandate or lose your job would be appreciated, you didn't have to, any comment on those that did?

We’ll that’s a no brainer, it was BS for them to lose their jobs. No one should be forced to take a vaccine they don’t want. I hope they end up being able to sue the pants off their former employer.

 

[Kewpie]

You are either "fully" vaxed and booster'd
or
You are "Not Vaxed"

There is no grey area of "I kind of had one or two shots"

By your logic, I’m not vaxxed, then. I had two shots, which were a requirement for a trip I wanted to take. I’ve gone back and forth on if I want to bother with the booster or not. Probably not, just because I’m lazy.

There definitely is a gray area. Lots of people only took 1 shot (my husband), some have had 2, some have had boosters. No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to get it or to decide against any additional shots.

 

[summerthyme]

You are either "fully" vaxed and booster'd
or
You are "Not Vaxed"

There is no grey area of "I kind of had one or two shots"

OK, you've made your point. It's definitely bordering on trolling now...

Summerthyme

 

[raven]

I'm the one trolling?

well ok.

 

[summerthyme]

I'm the one trolling?

well ok.

Yes. Let it go...

Summerthyme

 

[Profit of Doom]

Why and how, that evil man is still walking the streets alive and kicking is beyond me!!

He doesn’t walk our streets. He is no doubt driven, with guards.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

I’ll let it go too. It’s pretty much pointless at this stage….

 

[Kewpie]

OK, you've made your point. It's definitely bordering on trolling now...

Summerthyme

Thanks for that, but I’ve got pretty thick skin. I find the discussion pretty fascinating, tbh! I like opinions that run counter to mine, it gives me an angle to look into that maybe I didn’t know before. I’m very open to changing my mind on subjects, but ya gotta make a very airtight case.

 

[summerthyme]

Thanks for that, but I’ve got pretty thick skin. I find the discussion pretty fascinating, tbh! I like opinions that run counter to mine, it gives me an angle to look into that maybe I didn’t know before. I’m very open to changing my mind on subjects, but ya gotta make a very airtight case.

We try to maintain civil discussion here. Belaboring a point over and over doesn't change anyone's mind. If you still have your vax card, I'd be really interested in you checking your vax batch number on the site I posted. There is a huge difference between the lethality if various batches.

And that itself is convincing enough for me to NEVER take it. Plus, I find the truths leaking slowly out from the CDC (as in the graphic I posted in Post 50) to be quite compelling.

I'm curious... have you read any of the actual information Pfizer was forced to publish by a Federal Judge? You know, the tens of thousands of pages they wanted sealed and hidden for 75 years? Does that not give you pause about their truthfulness?

And you do know that all Pfizer and Moderna employees are exempt from vax mandates, right? Funny...

Summerthyme

 

[Kewpie]

We try to maintain civil discussion here. Belaboring a point over and over doesn't change anyone's mind. If you still have your vax card, I'd be really interested in you checking your vax batch number on the site I posted. There is a huge difference between the lethality if various batches.

And that itself is convincing enough for me to NEVER take it. Plus, I find the truths leaking slowly out from the CDC (as in the graphic I posted in Post 50) to be quite compelling.

I'm curious... have you any of the actual information Pfizer was forced to publish by a Federal Judge? You know, the tens of thousands of pages theybwanted sealed and hidden for 75 years? Does that not give you pause about their truthfulness?

And you do know that all Pfizer and Moderna employees are exempt from vax mandates, right? Funny...

Summerthyme

I can track it down and look it up! I’d be curious my own self to see what it says. I would have no problems posting that info. I had the sore arm and felt a little off for a few days, but nothing beyond that.

Another board posted something about those files, but I was in the middle of real world stuff and just never had a chance to track down the post again.

And I don’t think Pfizer, Moderna, et. al., are even the tiniest bit trustworthy. Did you watch dope sick? I’m sure there will be coverups uncovered and evidence of shady backdoor dealings. I mean, how could they resist? Not only did they get a blank check, but they got the green light to completely toss out all the fail safes. I don’t think we’ve even seen the half of it yet! But I also don’t think it’s nearly as dire as many play it up to be. It’ll land somewhere between ‘totally harmless’ and ‘WE ALL GONNA DIE!’

But, again, risk vs reward. It was a trip I really wanted to take. It’s not a risk I’m willing to let my 12 year old son take, however. Just not worth it. But that’s a decision that should be between an individual and their doctor.

 

[summerthyme]

I guess I should tell you that multiple board members here lost parents and other loved ones *from the vax*... several hale and healthy oldsters who died of clots and other known side effects. No, not *every person* who was vaxxed is going to die from it... that site I referenced above makes it obvious that there were batches which were fairly innocuous. We speculate that (and I *think* I read something in one of the official doc releases that they actually did exactly this) the companies released multiple strengths or concentrations in different batches, to essentially do a "real time" trial with totally uninformed subjects.

Pfizer also admitted that the vast majority of pregnant subjects (in a tiny and horribly managed trial) lost their babies, either through miscarriage or stillbirth.

And they also have admitted that it *does not prevent transmission, or contracting the disease... or prevent hospitalization or death.

The only thing it seems to do is enrich the shareholders... and the funeral homes.

Summerthyme

 

[Kewpie]

At this point, it is what it is. Information will be coming out for years to come, we are the first real time trial on such a massive scale. I’m not naive enough to say there are absolutely zero vaccine injuries, I think any medical intervention is going to carry some risks. And we likely won’t know the full extent for many years to come. But a LOT of these people posting articles or making mini movies and generating clickable income streams and trying to scare people to death for a profit. Fear = clicks. And then others parrot the idea ‘if you didn’t die in the first 30 minutes, you’re gonna die in 2-5 years’ which is just nonsense and doesn’t benefit anyone.

In the meantime…

I’ll be the Guinea pig, so no one else has to! Just check on me from time to time, make sure I’m still breathing.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

KewPee, since we can end this on cute note, here is some cute….

View: https://youtu.be/U20zlDsSfE4
SORRY, I ACTUALLY MEANT THIS…. BUT HEY, IT WORKS…. MRNA TECH LIKE EATING A DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER PLAIN…..

View: https://youtu.be/Rw8M0yWMKhQ

 

[vector7]

NEW - Vaccinated people now make up a "majority of covid deaths." It is "no longer" a "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

MORE - "The trend underscores the importance of regular booster shots," says the WaPo article's subheadline, citing the CDC.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1595473081451319296

View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1595473081451319296?s=20&t=N9yu253j37F6LFR0KhEtRQ

 

[jed turtle]

When reality on the political stage has become theater of the absurd, it is clearly time to abandon ship because “this sucker is going down...”

”come out of her, my people, lest ye share in her plagues.”

 

[Tristan]

NEW - Vaccinated people now make up a "majority of covid deaths." It is "no longer" a "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

MORE - "The trend underscores the importance of regular booster shots," says the WaPo article's subheadline, citing the CDC.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1595473081451319296

View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1595473081451319296?s=20&t=N9yu253j37F6LFR0KhEtRQ

One definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result...


Or in this case, perhaps it's more a matter of perfidy.

 

[vector7]

Naomi Wolf: Pfizer Internal Documents: “If you lost your baby Pfizer said your adverse event was recovered or resolved."
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1595226772823580672

View: https://twitter.com/brixwe/status/1595226772823580672?s=20&t=a8-__aze_RedgXaUPM032A
See your adverse event was recovered or resolved...

CORONA - Pfizer and Moderna to launch study into long-term effects of covid-19 vaccines

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/11/pfizer_and_moderna_to_launch_study_to_determine_longterm_effects_of_covid19_vaccines.html November 25, 2022 Pfizer and Moderna to launch study to determine long-term effects of covid-19 vaccines By Eric Utter The Daily Mail has reported that Pfizer...

www.timebomb2000.com

 

[vector7]

Internationally renowned virologist Dr Ovita Fuller dies. This is why I would rather get advice from my fellow conspiracy theorists instead of medical professionals or so-called experts like Fauci or the CDC. All are compromised
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1596221645672546305

View: https://twitter.com/kingojungle/status/1596221645672546305?s=20&t=PxkQokqlcw7CyNklMnV5Cw

 

[robolast]

At this point, it is what it is. Information will be coming out for years to come, we are the first real time trial on such a massive scale. I’m not naive enough to say there are absolutely zero vaccine injuries, I think any medical intervention is going to carry some risks. And we likely won’t know the full extent for many years to come. But a LOT of these people posting articles or making mini movies and generating clickable income streams and trying to scare people to death for a profit. Fear = clicks. And then others parrot the idea ‘if you didn’t die in the first 30 minutes, you’re gonna die in 2-5 years’ which is just nonsense and doesn’t benefit anyone.

In the meantime…

I’ll be the Guinea pig, so no one else has to! Just check on me from time to time, make sure I’m still breathing.

i'm sure there are people using the vax for income streaming. However, are so many of you missing the logical point here - It's so obvious. Leave the choice of vaxing to the individual - right. But no, we had mandates that closed businesses, and split up families, forced people to die alone, forced children to online schooling which caused delays in both social and intellectual areas. As David J. Harris Jr. would say "ARE YOU KIDDING ME"

 

[vector7]

It turns out Fauci was right about *one* thing.

The Plandemic...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1596882409529946112

View: https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1596882409529946112?s=20&t=mlyIhCK8ttTrF0fskHemSQ