Solar CME EXPLOSION ON FARSIDE OF SUN TOUCHES EARTH (July 15 2021)

packyderms_wife

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Heliobas Disciple said:
I know and I admit I'm getting a little freaked out. Thankfully so far Day 5 no CME. (after 4 in 4 days)

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there's a video in one of the threads in the Unexplained about the Sun's previous micro nova events. The last one was figured to have been about 4,000 or so years ago when entire people groups moved out of western North and South America, they moved towards the middle of the continent. Those that couldn't moved, moved into caves in the ground.
 
Samuel Adams

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I have full faith that if the Beast comes right out and begs for Father’s intervention, His little ones will be spared and provided for......or taken
Home to a far better set of circumstances.

Win/win.

I will ever far rather face “Him”, than “them”.

But alas, He often requires of us the latter, before we can experience the former.
 
packyderms_wife

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Double_A said:
what’s that? Is that when it incinerates the first Three planets?
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Not necessarily, there’s a video here 5hat explains it. Basically the surface of the sun goes bat shit crazy and can even stop putting out light for upwards of nine days, or it can become severely dim for months or years at a time. Then it starts out putting crazy amounts of flares and radiation. It’s suspected that it was micro novas that caused the last ice age.
 
EMICT

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Solar Update
July 20, 2021 @ 19:05 UTC

The source of a number of farsided eruptions over the past week will begin to turn into view during the next 24-48 hours. This could possibly be the return of old region 2835 from the previous rotation. It remains to be seen just how much gas this likely spotted region has left in the tank. Image below courtesy of SDO/AIA.


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EMICT said:
Solar Update
July 20, 2021 @ 19:05 UTC
The source of a number of farsided eruptions over the past week will begin to turn into view during the next 24-48 hours. This could possibly be the return of old region 2835 from the previous rotation. It remains to be seen just how much gas this likely spotted region has left in the tank. Image below courtesy of SDO/AIA.



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TY!
 
Heliobas Disciple

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Back in January I posted this thread:

WHAT IF A PERFECT CME HIT EARTH

Solar - What if … A Perfect CME Hit Earth?

https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2021/01/21/what-if-a-perfect-cme-hit-earth/ (fair use applies) What if … A Perfect CME Hit Earth? January 21, 2021 / Dr.Tony Phillips Jan. 21, 2021: You’ve heard of a “perfect storm.” But what about a perfect solar storm? A...
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com

They described the perfect CME this way:

the “Perfect CME.” It would be fast, leaving the sun around 3,000 km/s, and aimed directly at Earth. Moreover, it would follow another CME, which would clear the path in front of it, allowing the storm cloud to hit Earth with maximum force.


I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to find the speed of the 3rd CME that was the largest and most explosive of the 4 we saw last week on the far side. It definitely "followed another CME which cleared a path infront of it." It really makes you wonder what would've happened if that sequence was Earth facing instead of facing out behind the sun.

And on a related note, the other day I went outside after some storms a little before sunset (southwest FL). The sky to the east was still black and the sun as it was about to start going down in the western sky had no clouds in front of it. Everything outside was bright as if a spotlight was shining down on it. The sun itself was so bright it was just not natural and I don't know if it was the effect of the dark sky on the opposite side. It was like being used to an old 60watt incandescent bulb and walking into a room with multiple bright LED's shining right at you. Not only did it burn right through my skin, it was impossible to look at. I know you shouldn't look at the sun, but as a kid you COULD look at the sun if you wanted to. The sun the other day was impossible to look at. fwiw.

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Heliobas Disciple

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More solar flares, another CME and a filament erupted.

(fair use applies)

SOMETHING FLARE-Y THIS WAY COMES: The southeastern limb of the sun is seething with activity. During the late hours of July 19th, Earth-orbiting satellites detected multiple long-duration solar flares as glowing masses of plasma and magnetic arches surged into view. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the action:

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The source of the turmoil is one or more sunspots hidden behind the limb of the sun. They won't remain hidden for long. The sun's rotation is turning the 'spots toward Earth, and we should be able to see them in the next day or two.

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Update: The eruptions of July 19th also hurled a CME into space: movie. The storm cloud will not hit Earth. Future CMEs might, however, as the underlying blast site rotates in our direction later this week.

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SIDEWAYS SOLAR FLARE: A filament of magnetism near sunspot AR2846 erupted yesterday, sparking a B-class solar flare and hurling a cloud of plasma into space. Normally, the location of the blast site would rule out an impact on Earth. However, the explosion's debris squirted out sideways. See the movie. NOAA analysts are evaluating the possibility of a glancing blow later this week.

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rolenrock

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The area ejecting the flares ought to be on our side by now. I don't have a good feeling about our chances it will be quiet and calm these next two weeks.
 
Heliobas Disciple

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According to the operator of this webpage, the risk is over. I don't know his qualifications to say that, but I like good news so I'll post it. However with the caveat that I haven't seen this anywhere else, especially not on any of NASA's pages.

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July 21, 2021 @ 20:50 UTC
If you were like me and hoping for a large active spotted region to turn into view off the east limb today, it appears that we are out of luck. The source of multiple large coronal mass ejections while on the farside of the Sun looks to be in an advanced state of decay. Magnetically speaking, there could still be chance for at least C-Class solar flares. We will get a better look during the next day or so. Image below by SDO/HMI.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Heliobas Disciple said:
According to the operator of this webpage, the risk is over. I don't know his qualifications to say that, but I like good news so I'll post it. However with the caveat that I haven't seen this anywhere else, especially not on any of NASA's pages.

Space Weather by SolarHam

www.solarham.net www.solarham.net
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July 21, 2021 @ 20:50 UTC
If you were like me and hoping for a large active spotted region to turn into view off the east limb today, it appears that we are out of luck. The source of multiple large coronal mass ejections while on the farside of the Sun looks to be in an advanced state of decay. Magnetically speaking, there could still be chance for at least C-Class solar flares. We will get a better look during the next day or so. Image below by SDO/HMI.
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He's pretty accurate, he looks at a lot of satellite data, etc., past solar trends, and ham signals and can give a fairly accurate forecast. That said there's always that one sunspot that has to surprise everyone.
 
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packyderms_wife said:
He's pretty accurate, he looks at a lot of satellite data, etc., past solar trends, and ham signals and can give a fairly accurate forecast. That said there's always that one sunspot that has to surprise everyone.
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Good to know, thanks for that info.


OK - looking at the images myself I see another CME just now came off the sun, I don't know if it's filament caused or flare caused because it's the middle of the night in the USA all time zones so there's no report on it at this at this hour but will post some links in the meantime while we wait for an update from spaceweather or one of the sun watching webpages or youtubers.

Go here for the movie:

here's a still of it leaving the sun from http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/seeds/realtime/2021/07/det_png/20210724_0236_seeds.png:

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And hopefully this gif will load, this is another movie of the event - it's in the last frame but it may be a live link in which case look for the 7/24/21 time frame.


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packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Heliobas Disciple said:
Good to know, thanks for that info.
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You're welcome. He has a forum where a lot of people discuss this stuff, and all stuff Ham Radio related, he's pretty well informed and willingly shares his data and how he gets his data, unlike that dutch character. He's reliable enough that the gov't sources for satellites, etc., he refers to also refer back to him. And he's not prone to hyperbole which is a nice trait.
 
Mprepared

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Heliobas Disciple said:
Good to know, thanks for that info.


OK - looking at the images myself I see another CME just now came off the sun, I don't know if it's filament caused or flare caused because it's the middle of the night in the USA all time zones so there's no report on it at this at this hour but will post some links in the meantime while we wait for an update from spaceweather or one of the sun watching webpages or youtubers.

Go here for the movie:

here's a still of it leaving the sun from http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/seeds/realtime/2021/07/det_png/20210724_0236_seeds.png:

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And hopefully this gif will load, this is another movie of the event - it's in the last frame but it may be a live link in which case look for the 7/24/21 time frame.


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This is earth directed?
 
Heliobas Disciple

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From today's spaceweather.com on that flare/CME

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LONG DURATION SOLAR FLARE: Today began with an explosion on the sun. Minutes after UT midnight, sunspot AR2849 erupted, producing a long-duration C4-class flare. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the ultraviolet flash:

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An hour-long pulse of X-rays and ultraviolet radiation ionized the top of Earth's atmosphere, disrupting the usual propagation of radio waves over the Pacific Ocean. Mariners, aviators, and ham radio operators may have noticed sudden drops in signal strength at frequencies below 20 MHz: blackout map.

The explosion also hurled a CME into space: movie. The cloud does not appear to be heading for Earth.
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packyderms_wife said:
I'm supposed to go buy a new iMac this weekend and for some reason just cannot bring myself to do so... who knows maybe I'm sensing the loss of the grid in the coming week?
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As long as I have electricity, the 'grid down' doesn't worry me over-much. My old 'big screen' TV is now my computer monitor and I have a terabyte of movies on a 'memory stick' I can spend time watching.

Not being able to get the *real* news will worry me...enough to even take my 'Maggie' to bed with me. You do know who 'Maggie' is...right? I'm holding her in my avatar...
 
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Lone_Hawk said:
Those radio bands are very noisy right now.
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"The X-rays and ultraviolet radiation ionizes the top of Earth's atmosphere" IE, there are various aspects of the atmosphere that a radio transmitter has to contend with to make a usable signal get from point A to point B. Air density and temperature play a role. Also, the sun puts out a bunch of electrical noise anytime, this is increased in this kind of an event. Net is that a radio receiver has a much harder time picking the transmitted signal out of all the other junk that is out there, even to the point of being unusable during the event.

The bands get "noisy" for lots of reasons, the power of the signals the receiver is
looking for is lower, there is more electrical noise from the sun present, and the radio operators turning up the volume and gain of the receiver up to try and get around the conditions are all factors
 
Heliobas Disciple

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More activity from the sun. If you scroll up to post 57, that video is live so it's now up to date for this morning. Look at around the 2pm position around 7/27/01.

Looks like the weak CME is coming straight for Earth, but it's weak. Earth is the yellow dot at the 3:00 position so it's going to wash over us at the end of the week.

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For now, this is the discussion I found, it will probably be on spaceweather later today:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419917913709027337
GO TO LINK FOR VIDEO (I can't copy it over)
View: https://twitter.com/halocme/status/1419917913709027337
The latest eruption may be interesting for the complex trajectory of the filament (left frames). It left a dimming region (right)- part of it may have represented the dark filament material but most of it was due to mass evacuation. Only a weak EUV wave. The CME was also diffuse.



see also this twitter thread, it has a few gif images as well which I think are this same event:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419854923919986689
View: https://twitter.com/nenecallas/status/1419854923919986689
 
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Thunderbird said:
All I know is 20 meters was junk yesterday, noisy with bursts of noise across the entire band, some very high in amplitude.
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There is a solar wind heading to Earth now too, that could be why.

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NO STORMS, JUST A LITTLE UNREST: Minor geomagnetic unrest is expected tomorrow, July 28th, when a narrow stream of solar wind hits Earth's magnetic field. The gaseous material is flowing from a sinuous hole in the sun's atmosphere. Faint auroras might be visible at high latitudes *if* the nearly full Moon is below the horizon.

About the eruption last night, here's what Space Weather says.

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A CRACK IN EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD: Right now, a minor crack is opening in Earth's magnetic field as our planet makes first contact with a dense stream of solar wind. This could set the stage for high-latitude auroras during the early hours of July 28th.

MERCURY AND A CME: Looking for Mercury? Don't. It's blindingly close to the sun. Today the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) photographed Mercury only 6 degrees from the solar disk. Play the movie and watch a CME target the first planet:


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No, the CME didn't actually hit Mercury. Mercury is at the farside of its orbit, preparing to pass behind the sun (astronomers call this "superior solar conjunction"). The narrow CME passed between us and Mercury, creating only the appearance of impact.

At closest approach on Aug. 1st, Mercury will be just 1.7 degrees from the sun. The day before, Mercury will skim the outskirts of the Beehive star cluster. Human eyes cannot see these events, but coronagraphs can. Join SOHO for a ringside seat.
 
Heliobas Disciple

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There appears to have been another small outburst from the sun. I try to post the videos I find, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If there's no video, it means I tried and failed not that I was too lazy to post a video ;).


OK - this one failed to post so go to this link to see it:

Trying another which also won't load, so go here to view it:

Remember to hit 'start' if it's a still image when you get to the page.

The second link shows a stronger reaction at the 2:00 spot but smaller reactions at the same time at 9:00 and 11:00 so it may have been a wider felt eruption, although again, doesn't look very strong. May have been a filament and not a sunspot, I'll have to wait for the reports as it looks like this just happened.


And this is the message I get when I try to load the videos, maybe they are too large:

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