CORONA CDC: Japanese Data Show Indoor Coronavirus Transmission 18.7 Times Likelier, as Garcetti Moves L.A. Homeless to Rec Centers

[Jonas Parker]

CDC: Japanese Data Show Indoor Coronavirus Transmission 18.7 Times Likelier, as Garcetti Moves L.A. Homeless to Rec Centers

The CDC says Japanese data showed that coronavirus transmission was nearly 20 times more likely indoors than outdoors.

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LA's way of solving the homeless problem... JP

CDC: Japanese Data Show Indoor Coronavirus Transmission 18.7 Times Likelier, as Garcetti Moves L.A. Homeless to Rec Center
JOEL B. POLLAK 29 Mar 2020

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently published a paper reporting that Japanese data showed that coronavirus transmission was nearly 20 times more likely indoors than outdoors.
L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti is moving hundreds of homeless people into recreation centers in residential areas — a policy that is receiving increasing scrutiny and criticism from residents and the media.
The Los Angeles Times reported this weekend that there is growing discord in California about Garcetti’s plan to help the homeless:

There has been pushback to using the recreation centers, though, and a fear that they could be incubators for spreading the novel coronavirus among an already high-risk population. While most health experts, advocates and some politicians agree that quick action will require using multiple types of shelter, they say single-occupancy spaces such as motel or hotel rooms are safer.

The CDC paper, dated Mar. 18, 2020, has surfaced amidst debates about whether to move homeless people indoors to protect them from the coronavirus pandemic — or whether doing so would actually expose them to more risk.
The paper, by Thomas R. Frieden — a former CDC director — and Christopher T. Lee, notes (footnotes included):

Environmental factors [in trasmission] include population density and the availability and use of infection prevention and control measures in healthcare facilities. SARS and MERS had relatively low rates of person-to-person transmission but caused explosive outbreaks in healthcare settings (28). Rapid person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 appears likely to have occurred in healthcare settings, on a cruise ship, and in a church (3). In a study of 110 case-patients from 11 clusters in Japan, all clusters were associated with closed environments, including fitness centers, shared eating environments, and hospitals, the odds for transmission from a primary case-patient were 18.7 times higher than in open-air environments (H. Nishiura et al., unpub. data, External Link). SARS-CoV-2 is present in stool (33); ensuring cleanliness of toilets and other potentially contaminated surfaces is needed, and measures to prevent aerosolization from plumbing, as might have occurred in the Amoy Garden outbreak of SARS (24), might need to be implemented. Evidence of environmental contamination by SARS-CoV-2 through respiratory droplets and fecal shedding highlights the need for effective decontamination efforts and strict adherence to environmental hygiene, which are pertinent to prevention and control of transmission, including SSEs (34).

New CDC guidelines on the care of homeless populations caution against clearing encampments during the outbreak, and suggest that moving them to individual housing units, rather than common spaces, is preferable.

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News and the host of Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot on Sunday evenings from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET (4 p.m. to 7 p.m. PT). He earned an A.B. in Social Studies and Environmental Science and Public Policy from Harvard College, and a J.D. from Harvard Law School. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. He is also the co-author of How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution, which is available from Regnery. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak.

 

[Kathy in FL]

And here all of these orders for "Safer at Home" plans municipalities are forcing down people's throats. Well apparently they are also shoving covid-19 down their systems as well.

Who would have thunk it? Stupid politicians playing stupid strategies with backfiring results.

 

[Cacheman]

In a few months he'll be bragging how he solved the homeless problem in LA.....

 

[Luddite]

Put them in cruise ships and keep them there until they get sick, then move them to health care facilities. Oh wait...

By definition, for whatever reason, homeless people are unmanageable. Expending huge resources to keep them cooped up won't help. IMHO, they'll do better in their dumpster diving environs.

I'm not trying to be cruel or uncaring.

 

[hunybee]

that really is only logical to have stale uncirculated indoor air and rooms having more of the virus around.

another good reason to get outside as much as one can. we have also been airing out the house as much as possible. thankfully, the weather has been somewhat better, so it doesn't get as cold inside, but we try to open all the windows and let the fresh air in at least once a day.

 

[Cardinal]

Put them in cruise ships and keep them there until they get sick, then move them to health care facilities. Oh wait...

By definition, for whatever reason, homeless people are unmanageable. Expending huge resources to keep them cooped up won't help. IMHO, they'll do better in their dumpster diving environs.

I'm not trying to be cruel or uncaring.

It's a lose-lose situation. Either leave them to die in their dumsters or lock em up to die where at least they can't spread it.

 

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