WEATHER CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE IN GULF OF MEXICO 6-16-2018?

Doomer Doug

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Here is a link showing the potential for a Category Two hurricane to hit Saturday June 16th, or Sunday, 11am June 17th in the Houston, Texas, general area, much like Harvey did recently.

He shows the wind flows and says it is based on three weather models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg-qrKvbRXk

Models show a CAT 3 landfall on Texas coast next weekend - BIG heads-up!

June 9, 2018: Three separate forecast models are showing a CAT 3 Hurricane landfall next weekend somewhere along the Texas coast. Forecasts CAN and will change but be ready in case. Heads up!


Here are two links also.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/patterson/loc=-123.338,45.346
 

Doomer Doug

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I like to watch the wind flows around the globe. It is very relaxing. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but we should keep an eye on it anyway.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Another wet year

Actually, a good chunk of Tx is teetering on drought, us included. Haven't had a decent rain in months. Out your way you all seem to be getting a lot.

Old timers always told us it takes a hurricane to break a drought. Problem is, it rains so hard and so fast way too much runs off into flooding.
 

Doomer Doug

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Bastardi just changed his tune from a "failure in the European model," to "I'm keeping an eye on the Western part of the Gulf of Mexico next week." Oh yeah, a Cat 3 hitting Houston in about 7 days is going to surprise a lot of people. We should know one way or the other within the next 3 or 4 days. The model shows circulation starting to build up nicely. The model also has it stalling and winding up right off the Texas coast.

The NHS should start noticing it soon, and Tropical Tidbits also. I sure hope we aren't looking at another Harvey type rain maker here.
 

TxGal

Day by day
If anyone on the Gulf coast is in need of bottled water and other emergency supplies/preps, I would strongly suggest not waiting til the end of next week to stock up. Our weather guys down in Bryan/College Station posted on their twitter feed a tweet from the NWS Houston about the potential for the hurricane already making the rounds on social media. They caution it's far too soon to tell, but it won't take long for people to get nervous.

In other words, if people are talking they are likely remembering Harvey and heading to the store or thinking about doing so soon. It was darn near impossible to find bottled water even way out here in the country for months after Harvey.
 

Sleeping Cobra

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Heads Up Texas / Gulf Of Mexico

7:33 video shows a hurricane forming in the Gulf of Mexico starting around June 14th.

Published on Jun 9, 2018
June 9, 2018: Three separate forecast models are showing a CAT 3 Hurricane landfall next weekend somewhere along the Texas coast. Forecasts CAN and will change but be ready in case. Heads up!

https://youtu.be/lg-qrKvbRXk
 

Doomer Doug

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2 HOURS AND NOT 72 HOURS

Gang, we had an official alert go out in Salem related to contaminated water last week. THE STORES WERE STRIPPED BARE WITHIN THE FIRST NINETY MINUTES.

The conventional, "we have 72 hours," is no longer valid in my view. You have, at best, two hours after any kind of "official" information, before the Sheeple stampede and descend on grocery stores, gas stations etc like a horde of locusts and strip store shelves bare.

Here are a few pictures to motivate people!:ld:
 

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Sleeping Cobra

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I think it would be a good idea that if you know someone who lives in Houston and the surrounding areas of Houston, contact them now and try to show them the video (link). (Possible) hurricanes heading to your area, people need to watch closely and prepare.
 

Sleeping Cobra

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Don't wait for an actual storm!
Panic now and avoid the rush!!

Actually, NEVER panic. Be very watchful and be prepared. Being in panic mode is not good. Just stay calm, be watchful & be ready (not get ready) but be ready.

And yes, pray now for the people in Houston / surrounding areas of Houston and the entire Gulf Coast. Hurricanes can change course and head in another direction.
 

Doomer Doug

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Here is the take from Joe.


Joe Bastardi
‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi
3h3 hours ago

GFS still looks way overdone but western gulf is area I am watching in 6-10


Joe Bastardi
‏Verified account @BigJoeBastardi
3h3 hours ago

Okay NOW THE TROPICS HAVE MY ATTENTION! ECWMF move of MJO into phase 1 then perhaps 2/3 says to look out late next week and week after
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Thanks for the heads-up.

Just penciled in a coupla days for running down to Freeport and helping my offshore fishing peeps.

Having a spare hauler is huge when it's time to move boats north.

Another warm body is nice when boarding-up, too...especially when you have to do it from scaffolding.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
I'm skeptical at this time. I'll be watching. Thanks for the heads up!

https://www.wunderground.com/tropical/AXNT20.html

Tropical Weather Discussion
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axnt20 knhc 091752
twdat
Tropical weather discussion
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
152 PM EDT Sat Jun 9 2018
Tropical weather discussion for North America, Central America
Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean Sea, northern sections of South
America, and Atlantic Ocean to the African coast from the
Equator to 32n. The following information is based on satellite
imagery, weather observations, radar and meteorological analysis.
Based on 1200 UTC surface analysis and satellite imagery through
1715 UTC.
...Tropical waves...
Currently, two tropical waves are observed between the coast of
Africa and the Lesser Antilles. Two tropical waves are moving
across the Caribbean Sea.
A tropical wave is along 21w from 4n-13n moving westward 15 to 20
kt. The hovmoller diagram indicates the westward propagation of
the wave, and model diagnostics guidance also suggests the presence
of this system. This wave shows up well as a low amplitude moisture
surge on the tpw product. Currently, convection is limited along
the wave's axis due to the presence of African dust.
A second tropical wave extends its axis along 35w/36w south of
15n, moving westward 10 to 15 kt. Isolated moderate convection is
seen where the waves axis meets the ITCZ. Saharan dust surrounds
the wave.
A tropical wave has entered the Caribbean Sea. Its axis is along
62w south of 18n, moving westward 15 to 20 kt. A patch of low
level moisture with embedded showers is associated with the wave,
affecting parts of the Lesser Antilles. The wave will pass south
of Puerto Rico tonight, and reach Hispaniola on sun.
A tropical wave is moving across the western Caribbean Sea around
10 kt. Its axis is along 86w, south of 18n. The wave will pass
west through the Gulf of Honduras through this evening and interact
with an upper-level trough resulting in continued thunderstorm
development across parts of the western Caribbean and northern
Central America.
...Monsoon trough/ITCZ...

the monsoon trough enters the Atlantic Ocean through Guinea, and
continues to 09n21w to 07n34w. The ITCZ stretches from 07n37w to
06n45w to the coast of Guyana near 08n59w. A cluster of moderate
convection is from 6.5n-8n between 14n-16n. Similar convection is
noted within about 120 nm N of the ITCZ axis between 52w and 57w.
...Discussion...
Gulf of Mexico...
A mid to upper level low located over the NE Gulf continues to
enhance the development of scattered showers and thunderstorms
across the eastern Gulf, and over parts of Florida. A surface
trough is analyzed over northern Florida and the NE Gulf in
association with this system aloft. The remainder of the Gulf is
under the influence of a ridge anchored by a 1022 mb high
pressure situated over central Florida. Scattered showers and
tstms are also noted just of the coast of Mexico, roughly between
Tampico and Veracruz, where a diffluent pattern aloft prevails.
The mid to upper-level low will meander over the Gulf of Mexico
through the middle of next week and enhance convection over the
eastern Gulf waters. A surface trough will develop along the
Yucatan Peninsula late each afternoon, drift westward across the
southwest Gulf during the overnight hours, then dissipate along
95w/96w during the late mornings, accompanied by a fresh to
locally strong wind shift. An east to West Ridge will meander
across the northern Gulf waters through the period accompanied by
a moderate southeast return flow, except increasing to fresh
southeast breeze late sun through Mon evening.
Caribbean Sea...
Recent scatterometer data provide observations of near gale force
trade winds across the south-central Caribbean, particularly S of
13n between 73w and 77w. The most recent altimeter data indicated
sea heights of near 14 ft in association with these winds. Fresh
to strong trade winds area noted elsewhere from 11n-17n between
68w-80w. Moderate to locally fresh trades prevail across the
remainder of the eastern Caribbean, with gentle to moderate NE-E
winds across the NW part of the basin. The pressure gradient
between high pressure N of area and the Colombian/panamanian low
will continue to support fresh to strong winds across the central
Caribbean, and the eastern Caribbean S of 15n, but mainly W of
64w. These conditions will persist through at least Mon.
Two tropical waves are moving across the Caribbean Sea. Refer to
the tropical waves section above for details.
Strong SW flow ahead of a mid to upper-level trough over the
eastern Gulf of Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula continues to
transport abundant mid-upper level moisture across the NW Caribbean
into central Cuba and the Bahamas. Convection continues to flare
up over the SW Caribbean, likely related to the proximity of the
monsoon trough. Patches of low level moisture embedded in the
trade winds flow are noted elsewhere across the basin.
Atlantic Ocean...
Abundant moisture continues to prevail across the west Atlantic,
on the eastern side of the Gulf of Mexico-Yucatan Peninsula mid to
upper-level trough. A band of multi-layer clouds extends from
central Cuba across the NW and central Bahamas. Lightning data and
Doppler radar indicate the presence of tstms over S Florida and
the NW Bahamas. A ridge dominates the remainder of the Atlantic
Ocean with a 1027 mb high pressure located near 31n41w. Moderate
to locally fresh winds are noted along the southern periphery of
the ridge per scatterometer data.
An east to West Ridge is forecast to meander between 27n and 29n
through Wed. Fresh to locally strong nocturnal easterly winds are
forecast along the northern coast of Hispaniola, with moderate
easterly expected elsewhere south of the ridge. Gentle to moderate
southerly flow is forecast north of the ridge.
The Saharan air layer (sal) from CIMSS shows abundant Saharan dust
covering the area between the West Coast of Africa and the Lesser
Antilles. The Saharan dust is expected to reach Puerto Rico and
the Virgin Islands on sun, bringing haze conditions across the
area.
For additional information please visit
http://www.Hurricanes.Gov/marine
$$
gr
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
I wanted to say that I am glad we have technology so we can view the wind patterns and we can advance days ahead on this technology so we may have a glimpse of the future. "Early warning heads up".
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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This reminds me of Alicia in 1983.

It spun up just off the coast and made Cat-3 quickly.

The track was right up I-45.
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
Can anyone find the link to the program / website the YouTuber is using of the wind direction map? This will be extremely helpful to "look into the future" of any (possible) hurricane formation as well as other (severe) weather threats.
 

Chili

Contributing Member
We are located just off the central Texas coast, and next weekend is our annual motorcycle rally raising money for our local battered woman's shelter.

Chili
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
We Need Everyone To Bookmark This Link............

Can anyone find the link to the program / website the YouTuber is using of the wind direction map? This will be extremely helpful to "look into the future" of any (possible) hurricane formation as well as other (severe) weather threats.

If you see any (possible) development of a hurricane or (possible) severe weather in the future, please alert us. Thanks.


https://www.ventusky.com/?p=28.9;-94.8;5&l=temperature-2m&t=20180618/00

(Bookmark Link)

According to this wind map I first see circulation June 15, @ 1:00 PM
 
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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
This isn't look too good from my perspective. If you go to the link in the above post, you will see clear signs of circular movement directly off the Texas gulf coast. It sure looks like the formation of a hurricane to me, with the creation of an eyewall in the center. We also have the water temps to factor in. Once the circular motion gets going, which is what looks to be happening, you will get the "convection" going that sucks energy from the warm water.

The link to Gulf of Mexico water temps is here,

http://abc13.com/weather/gulf-of-mexico-water-temperature/75772/

THE WATER TEMPERATURE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO OFF THE TEXAS COAST IS 83 DEGREES F. Actually, if you move your cursor directly over the circulation it shows 84 Degrees F. If you jiggle it a little bit, you get a 85 Degree F reading. Ergo, the water directly under the circulation is between 83 and 85 Degree F. :hof:

Here is the link to the Gulf of Mexico satellite view. It shows a completely different picture. In the wind chart, you have clear signs of a circular motion off the Texas coast, but in the satellite view the coast off of Texas is clear.

http://abc13.com/weather/gulf-satellite-image/959802/


Based on the circular motion off the Texas coastline, we may not have to wait to the 14th after all.

Both Tropical Tidbits and the NHS are not mentioning any of the above.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The time frame I have seen mentioned is between Saturday, June 16th, to Sunday, June 17th, either 11am, or 4pm, like you said, Sleeping Cobra. Again, take a look at the wind map since the circular motion is just right there in your face.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Current

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https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/GOES16_CONUS.php
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The wind chart has a nice little feature that allows you to change the date. When I do so, I find the circulation on the 16th and 17th. Up till then nothing much happens, but I did see the circular wind motion directly over the Texas coast on the 17th. We shall see what happens, but it is better to be aware of the potential than not to be aware.
 

Snyper

Veteran Member
The wind chart has a nice little feature that allows you to change the date. When I do so, I find the circulation on the 16th and 17th. Up till then nothing much happens, but I did see the circular wind motion directly over the Texas coast on the 17th. We shall see what happens, but it is better to be aware of the potential than not to be aware.

Most know the potential is always there from June until October.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
The Houston Chronicle has picked up on the rumor. Is says the National Weather Service is being bombarded with inquiries about the model's reading.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-...eather-Service-ur-12982618.php?ipid=happening

Weather Service is reassuring Texans along the Gulf Coast that it is far too soon to predict what will happen in the tropics here next weekend.
The National Weather Service is reassuring Texans along the Gulf Coast that it is far too soon to predict what will happen in the tropics here.

The announcement comes two days after one weather model predicted the storm making a beeline for Houston next Saturday -- but forecasters say it is just one of many projections.

Meteorologists at the Houston/Galveston office of the weather service said they have received numerous questions about the potential for a tropical storm or hurricane next weekend, and wanted to brief Texans on what the forecast can and cannot predict at this point.

Here's what meteorologists can say:

- A tropical wave may reach the northwest Gulf sometimes next weekend, bringing more tropical moisture with it.

- Rain chances will increase as a result.

Here's what they can't predict:

- If a tropical cyclone will develop, let alone a hurricane.

Matt Lanza, a meteorologist with Space City Weather, also urged Texans not to take Friday's weather model showing a Houston-bound storm as anything close to a firm prediction. He said that type of model, called the GFS, tends to significantly overestimate the development of tropical storms.

"I don't believe that whatever does develop in the Gulf will be anywhere near the scare-icane shown on today's happy hour GFS model," Lanza wrote.

The weather service said it will have a more accurate forecast for next weekend on Tuesday. Meteorologists will continue to share images of weather models, but said these are not cause for alarm.

"Keep in mind that these are weather model guesses, and not guarantees, of what may happen with the weather at a given period in time," the weather service said in a statement Sunday afternoon.

The 2018 Atlantic Hurricane Season began on June 1. The National Weather Service predicts 14 named storms, seven hurricanes, of which three will be Category 3 or stronger. Hurricane Harvey was a Category 4 hurricane when it slammed into the Texas coast this past August.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
This could have been a teachable moment if the powers that be had used it for the old "72 hours worth of stuff," spiel. They didn't. As usual, they went with the keep the sheeple calm. So, what will happen if/when a category 2 storm hits Houston after the experts said it won't happen? The next time people will simply ignore them. As usual, the implication in the article is "oh look, our valiant government employees are being overwhelmed by aluminum foil wearing, black helicopter believing, armed militia fruitcakes.

You would think after Harvey, they would be taking a potential hurricane more seriously.
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
Scare - icane?............

"I don't believe that whatever does develop in the Gulf will be anywhere near the scare-icane shown on today's happy hour GFS model," Lanza wrote."

Just ignore these scumbags and keep watch and BE ready.
 
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