California’s Democrats Are Ready for Political War - Bloomberg Businessweek

Housecarl

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That they're coming out with such articles and the CA DNC is "girding their loins" accordingly, how vulnerable are they to a competent and funded challenge?....HC

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-18/california-s-democrats-are-ready-for-political-war

California’s Democrats Are Ready for Political War
“We’re going to do everything in our power to protect our people and our values.”

James Nash
Esmé E Deprez

Bloomberg Businessweek
November 18, 2016 — 5:00 AM PST

The Republicans are about to control Congress and the presidency for the first time in a decade, and they have an ambitious agenda. They’ve promised to undo Obamacare, deport undocumented immigrants, and roll back environmental regulations. The Democrats who run the state government in California aren’t happy. Immediately after the election, state Senate President Kevin de León and his Assembly counterpart, Anthony Rendon, both Latinos from Southern California, sent out a scathing statement in English and Spanish assuring all 39 million Californians that they were ready for political war. “Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California,” they wrote. “We will lead the resistance to any effort that would shred our social fabric or our Constitution.”

Democrats have dominated all branches of California’s government since 2011, when Jerry Brown succeeded Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor. With the largest economy in the U.S. and the sixth-largest in the world, the state enjoys greater independence from Washington than most. It was the first state to adopt its own vehicle emissions standards, in 2002. In 2012, California created the only state-level cap-and-trade system for limiting greenhouse gas emissions after Republicans in Congress rejected a national model. California, which has more undocumented immigrants than any other state, offers them driver’s licenses as well as financial aid for college. It has imposed some of the country’s strictest background checks on firearms purchases. It’s one of three states to provide paid family and medical leave and one of five that require employers to offer paid sick leave. “This is unlike anything we’ve seen in modern political history,” says de León. “We’re going to do everything in our power to protect our people and our values as Californians.”

Hillary Clinton won more than 61 percent of the state’s vote, a higher share than President Obama won in 2012. Voters approved ballot measures decriminalizing recreational marijuana use, restricting ammunition purchases, and increasing taxes on the rich. The national election triggered a resurgence of California secession fantasies, this time under the hashtag #Calexit—a reference to Brexit, Britain’s vote to leave the European Union.

State Democrats say there’s plenty they can do short of leaving the U.S. California has long been a net contributor to Washington’s coffers, receiving an estimated 78¢ in federal spending in return for every dollar it sends, according to a study by the Washington-based Tax Foundation, a nonprofit think tank that provides analysis of federal and state tax policies. That gives state leaders potential leverage when it comes to complying with policies it doesn’t like, starting with the deportation of undocumented immigrants.

From January 2014 to September 2015, California released immigrants considered deportable under federal law in more than 11,000 instances, rather than keeping them in custody for federal agents, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement data obtained by the Texas Tribune. The next state on the list, New York, released people in fewer than 2,000 cases.

On Nov. 14, Los Angeles Police Department Chief Charlie Beck said he won’t reverse long-standing department policy blocking officers from doing immigration enforcement, despite Donald Trump’s threats to cut federal funding to so-called sanctuary cities, which offer residents protection from federal agents. “We are not going to work with Homeland Security on deportation efforts,” Beck said. “That is not our job, nor will I make it our job.” San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee has also publicly affirmed his commitment to remaining a sanctuary city, and his office has begun drawing up contingency plans for dealing with a loss of federal funding, says City Controller Ben Rosenfield.

One of the biggest points of contention between Sacramento and Trump’s Washington will be climate change. The incoming president has called global warming a hoax “created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing noncompetitive.” He’s also pledged to withdraw from the 2015 Paris Agreement, the first legally binding global deal to reduce carbon emissions, and to shred Obama’s Clean Power Plan, which sought to control emissions from power plants.

Governor Brown has devoted himself to strengthening California’s carbon pollution rules, already the nation’s toughest. “We will protect the precious rights of our people and continue to confront the existential threat of our time—devastating climate change,” Brown said in a statement that also referred to finding common ground with Trump and the GOP where possible. Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf says cities should be willing to uphold the Paris commitments at the local level. “You have 70 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions coming from cities,” she says. “If all mayors agree to take action, we can actually render federal action irrelevant.”

California’s Democrats are also exploring ways to ensure continued access to health care. The Affordable Care Act guarantees federal subsidies for 90 percent of the 1.4 million residents insured by Covered California, the statewide health exchange, and about 5.5 million more Californians now have insurance via the Medicaid expansion made possible by the 2010 law. A repeal, as Trump and Republicans have pledged, would cost the state more than $15 billion in federal subsidies a year, according to the nonprofit Urban Institute. “In theory, California could implement its own universal health-care program,” says California’s insurance commissioner, Dave Jones—though doing so, he warns, would require significant state tax increases.

One area where Trump may be able to override state objections is his plan for a border wall, although much of California’s border with Mexico is already lined with high fences and motion sensors. Yet there are plenty of policies that Trump won’t be able to disrupt. Take abortion rights: If Roe v. Wade, the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion nationwide, were to be scrapped by a new court majority, the issue would revert to states. California leaders have taken steps to expand access to the procedure, and could make the state a haven for women seeking abortions if Roe were to fall. And some ideas that Trump has endorsed, like stop-and-frisk law enforcement policies, are determined at the local level, not by Congress. Says Mayor Schaaf: “I think it is wise to not react too much to things that have not yet occurred, but rather to be prepared and strengthened in the event that they do.”

The bottom line: More than 61 percent of Californians voted for Clinton, and state Democrats say they’ll block Trump’s policies.

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Joint Statement from California Legislative Leaders on Result of Presidential Election
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Drop California and Clinton's popular vote margin fades away.
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Richard

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Good let's cut off the water to S. CA or invite them to otherwise contribute to the US economy by providing production input of some sort.......

I'm ready for war against incompetent evil people who can't secure the water supply for humans in South California, all of them without exception from the top to the bottom......
 
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Dennis Olson

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"This is unlike anything we’ve seen in modern political history,” says de León. “We’re going to do everything in our power to protect our people and our values as MEXICANS.”


There, fixed it.
 

Housecarl

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"This is unlike anything we’ve seen in modern political history,” says de León. “We’re going to do everything in our power to protect our people and our values as MEXICANS.”


There, fixed it.

Could have also inserted the terms/labels "socialists", "progressives", etc.....
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
To hell with the political war.

If voting counts for nothing to hell with the soapbox and ballot box.

They think violence is the only political language.

So think about asking for conversation again asshats.
 

BornFree

Came This Far
Good let's cut off the water to S. CA or invite them to otherwise contribute to the US economy by providing production input of some sort.......

I'm ready for war against incompetent evil people who can't secure the water supply for humans in South California, all of them without exception from the top to the bottom......

From what I understand California has been so hostile to energy that they can't even begin to survive without electricity coming from other states. Cut that off and see how well California does.
 

Housecarl

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Well this might be partly why they're worried, particularly since the MSM has barely given the upcoming governor's race any coverage.....

For links see article source.....
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http://www.capoliticalreview.com/to...ates-rank-2nd-and-3rd-behind-democrat-newsom/

Poll: Republican gubernatorial candidates rank 2nd and 3rd behind Democrat Newsom

November 17, 2016 By Matt Fleming 4 Comments

Good news for California Republicans: In a field of nine candidates for the 2018 gubernatorial race, they have two of the top three names, according to a poll released Tuesday.

San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer and Ashley Swearengin, the termed-out mayor of Fresno, placed just behind Democratic Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom in a poll of registered voters taken prior to last week’s presidential election, conducted by The Field Poll and the Institute of Governmental Studies at UC Berkeley.

Newsom drew 23 percent to Faulconer’s 16 percent and Swearengin’s 11 percent, with six prominent Democrats trailing in the single digits. Although anything can change in politics, Faulconer said early this year that he won’t run for governor, and Tim Clark, a political consultant to Swearengin, told CalWatchdog on Tuesday he didn’t “expect her to run.”

Why it matters

Having been shut out of the U.S. Senate race after the June primary, thanks in part to the state’s relatively new system where the top two candidates advance regardless of party, Republicans will need to field a strong candidate at the top of the ticket in 2018 to help with fundraising and turnout for down ballot races and to show they can still compete in statewide elections.

In addition to legislative races, where Republicans will either be fighting off a Democratic supermajority by the narrowest of margins or trying to add a little bit of a buffer — the few races from last week that the Democratic supermajority hinges on have not yet been decided as the votes are still being counted — the 2018 gubernatorial election will elect statewide officers.

CA GOP Chairman Jim Brulte told CalWatchdog on Tuesday that the party was still focused on the outcome of last week’s election, but added the party was beginning to turn to 2018.

“I believe we will have strong candidates for a number of statewide offices,” Brulte said.

Challenges for Republicans

Both parties have struggled with a decline in voter registration for years, although the trend has been much more severe for Republicans, dropping from 36.4 percent of the electorate in 1996 to 26 percent late last month. Democrats in that time declined from 47.9 percent to 44.9 percent, but enjoyed a surge in registration over this campaign cycle that led to a slight uptick.

Whichever Republican candidates decide to jump into the race, they will be starting way behind Newsom and state Treasurer John Chiang, who have both been running and fundraising for awhile. As of September, Newsom had $6.3 million in his campaign account, while Chiang had $2.2 million as of August.

Both Faulconer and Swearengin benefited heavily in the poll from party identification — both dropped to single digits when polled on just name ID alone. But it’s still very early in the race, said John J. Pitney, Jr., a Roy P. Crocker professor of politics at Claremont McKenna College.

“These results reflect name recognition and partisan identification more than serious evaluation of the candidates,” Pitney said. “The good news for Republicans is that, although Faulconer and Swearengin are not running ahead, they have a chance of making the top two. The bad news is that the Democrats will be able to run well-funded campaigns.”

Money plays the odds

Pitney pointed to the 2014 Republican gubernatorial candidate, Neel Kashkari, who struggled with fundraising despite having contacts throughout the business and financial community from his time as an investment banker and top Treasury Department official.

In 2014, Kashkari raised only slightly more than Newsom has now two years out, largely due to being seen as not having a strong shot of winning (although he was running against a popular incumbent, Gov. Jerry Brown).

“Look at Kashkari,” Pitney said. “He had extensive contacts in the business/financial community, but could not fill his warchest because nobody thought he could win.”

Other candidates

Antonio Villaraigosa, the former mayor of Los Angeles, and Delaine Eastin, the former state superintendent of public instruction, have both announced their intentions to run. Eastin was not included in Tuesday’s poll, while Villaraigosa drew 6 percent. Chiang was near the bottom at 2 percent.

This piece was originally published by CalWatchdog.com
 

Housecarl

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Second article from the same source......

For links see article source.....
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http://www.capoliticalreview.com/top-stories/ways-in-which-a-trump-victory-could-benefit-california/

Ways in Which a Trump Victory Could Benefit California

November 18, 2016 By Susan Shelley 4 Comments

On Jan. 20, when Donald Trump takes his hand off the Bible and picks up the phone, he could cause a near-seismic upheaval in California just by changing some federal rules and implementing new policies.

Let me break the news to you gently: it might work out well.

The federal government continuously writes stacks of regulations that cause consumers to pay more for everything than they otherwise would. But because of the length of time between the writing and the paying, it can be hard to recognize the cause and effect.

For example, your bill from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power is higher because of federal regulations interpreted by California regulators to prohibit the use of ocean water for cooling power generation plants on the coast. We’re paying billions of dollars to convert three coastal generating plants, a project that began in 2011 and is scheduled to continue for decades. If the new administration modified those regulations, Los Angeles residents could save a small fortune.

If you’ve noticed that food is a lot more expensive, consider that because of federal regulations, the water supply was cut off to California’s breadbasket, the once-prosperous agricultural goldmine of the Central Valley.

Members of Congress from the area have introduced legislation over and over again to adjust federal law to override those regulations. Most recently, the Western Water and American Food Security Act was attached to the bill that funds the Interior Department. But President Obama has threatened a veto, arguing that the regulations are necessary to protect species like the Delta smelt.

The regulations could easily be changed if the new administration chooses to make abundant food production a policy priority over the protection of the smelt.

Other federal regulations have led to arguably impossible targets for further reducing fine particles, like dust and soot, in the air. To meet these goals, state regulators have repeatedly tightened the requirements for new diesel engines, raising the cost of trucking and the price of everything that’s moved by truck. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has even enforced California’s rules on out-of-state trucking firms when state regulators lacked jurisdiction.

Similarly, federal regulations have caused the South Coast Air Quality Management District to write up a new list of proposed tax increases to raise up to $14 billion. The bureaucrats need the money for policies and plans that are required in order to avoid federal sanctions for missing air-quality targets. But under a new administration, there’s an opportunity to take the bureaucracy off auto-pilot and look carefully at what we’re doing to ourselves. Some regulations may no longer be reasonable or necessary, and the cost may not be justified.

Federal rules that discourage the use of coal have made electricity more expensive, raising the cost of living for everyone. The next president’s policies could lower your utility bills.

Policy changes from the new administration will save taxpayers money in other ways, too.

A 2011 report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office said California paid $1.1 billion in 2009 to incarcerate criminals who were in the country illegally. The cost to Los Angeles County that year was $139 million.

President-elect Trump was criticized by California’s legislative leaders for his plan to immediately deport up to 3 million criminals who are in the country illegally. Senate President pro Tem Kevin de León and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon wrote in a joint letter, “We will lead the resistance to any effort that would shred our social fabric or our Constitution.”

But what is the argument for not deporting convicted criminals who are in the country illegally? How does that shred the social fabric or the Constitution?

Maybe California politicians should start working now on how they’re going to explain to voters that they rejected federal funds that could have been used for education, transportation and health care because they wanted to protect criminals who are in the United States without legal authorization.

It’s long past time for California’s leaders to give some thought to the damage caused by policies that have gone unquestioned because their cost didn’t become clear until years later.

From housing to energy to transportation to health care to law enforcement to education, federal policies and regulations have consequences that are sometimes both unintended and disastrous. A new administration is an opportunity to take a fresh look at everything.

It might just work out well, even for California.

And here’s the punchline: By 2018, the state’s Democratic politicians will be taking credit for it.

Susan Shelley is a columnist for the Southern California News Group. Reach her at Susan@SusanShelley.com and follow her on Twitter: @Susan_Shelley.
This piece was originally published by the L.A. Daily News
 

Doomer Doug

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what Trump must do

Housecarl, Trump has to clean up the voting mess or the Republicans will be crushed in 2018 and 2020. Granted, it is a state mandate to keep voting clean. Still, I think Trump needs to hold a governor's meeting, at least with the 34 Republican Governors and get them to take concrete steps like purging dead voters, etc. He could provide Federal Money to help them do that. Trump also needs to concentrate on the states he took, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, AND ESPECIALLY VIRGINIA WHERE HE NEEDS TO APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO LOOK INTO THAT SCUMBAG GOVERNOR. THE ONE THE SUPREME COURT GAVE A PASS ON FOR BLATANT CORRUPTION.

Trump has a chance to gut Democrat efforts to steal elections. If he does not, then the Democrats will make sure Republicans will never win an election again.
 

Thomas Paine

Has No Life - Lives on TB
How bout we give those low life sons a bitches what they want the Republic of California. then refuse to sell them water and power, refuse to protect them from the cartels, and treat all us military bases as bases in a distant nation under hostile condition. Or maybe Trump could consider the movement to leave the nation an insurrection in progress move in, remove the civilian authorities , and treat the state as hostile national security threat. Possibilities and pipe dreams ain't they grand.
 

kittyluvr

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How bout we give those low life sons a bitches what they want the Republic of California. then refuse to sell them water and power, refuse to protect them from the cartels, and treat all us military bases as bases in a distant nation under hostile condition. Or maybe Trump could consider the movement to leave the nation an insurrection in progress move in, remove the civilian authorities , and treat the state as hostile national security threat. Possibilities and pipe dreams ain't they grand.

How about just a boycott or embargo of the LA area, SF bay area and Sacramento. Without those areas we would be a red state. Better yet just get rid of the illegals in CA and the dems would loose a lot of their status in this state.

As much as I wish I had the money to move from CA, it just grates on me to abandon the state of my forefathers because the marxists and illegals. I will fight them here till the day I die.
 

Sleeping Cobra

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To hell with the political war.

If voting counts for nothing to hell with the soapbox and ballot box.

They think violence is the only political language.

So think about asking for conversation again asshats.

That is what pi$$e$ me off too. They do not reguard our votes. They probably ignore peoples majority votes.
 

Buick Electra

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:lol: :lol: Trump and us Deplorables are in their heads 24/7!
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WINNING!!!
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ShadowMan

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If these Arsebags try to leave the union they are going to be seriously surprised when the northern half of the state LEAVE THEM and CUT OFF THEIR WATER!!! Wouldn''t that be fun? LONG LIVE JEFFERSON!!!!!!
 
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Be Well

may all be well
If these Arsebags try to leave the union they are going to be seriously surprised when the northern half of the state LEAVE THEM and CUT OFF THEIR WATER!!! Wouldn''t that be fun? LONG LIVE JEFFERSON!!!!!!

If the a**clowns in CA want war, all the fedgov needs to do is cut of the Uncle $$ spigot. And sit back and watch them sob, cry, and writhe. And then Northern CA and Southern and Eastern OR can join and form a new state. Works for me!
 

Be Well

may all be well
Housecarl, Trump has to clean up the voting mess or the Republicans will be crushed in 2018 and 2020. Granted, it is a state mandate to keep voting clean. Still, I think Trump needs to hold a governor's meeting, at least with the 34 Republican Governors and get them to take concrete steps like purging dead voters, etc. He could provide Federal Money to help them do that. Trump also needs to concentrate on the states he took, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, AND ESPECIALLY VIRGINIA WHERE HE NEEDS TO APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO LOOK INTO THAT SCUMBAG GOVERNOR. THE ONE THE SUPREME COURT GAVE A PASS ON FOR BLATANT CORRUPTION.

Trump has a chance to gut Democrat efforts to steal elections. If he does not, then the Democrats will make sure Republicans will never win an election again.

Write up your proposals and send to the Trump people at this link, down at the bottom of the page:

https://www.greatagain.gov/
 

Housecarl

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Housecarl, Trump has to clean up the voting mess or the Republicans will be crushed in 2018 and 2020. Granted, it is a state mandate to keep voting clean. Still, I think Trump needs to hold a governor's meeting, at least with the 34 Republican Governors and get them to take concrete steps like purging dead voters, etc. He could provide Federal Money to help them do that. Trump also needs to concentrate on the states he took, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, AND ESPECIALLY VIRGINIA WHERE HE NEEDS TO APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO LOOK INTO THAT SCUMBAG GOVERNOR. THE ONE THE SUPREME COURT GAVE A PASS ON FOR BLATANT CORRUPTION.

Trump has a chance to gut Democrat efforts to steal elections. If he does not, then the Democrats will make sure Republicans will never win an election again.

I hear you Doug...

IMHO this is a multi-front task: legal, political and educational.
 

Thomas Paine

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Hey these guys are ready for political war, does that mean we can send each and everyone of them an ISIS fighter refugee as a Christmas present?:dvl1::lol:
 

BV141

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Actually if California could implement electoral college representation at the country level (like Maine) that would pull 10 to 15 electoral college votes from the Democrats.

The voting lists MUST be purged and voter ID must be mandatory (like the Democratic Convention required.)

The Blue states are the states without mandatory ID for voting....
 

Uhhmmm...

Veteran Member
...invite them to otherwise contribute to the US economy by providing production input of some sort.......

Unless you live in one of four very specific states, you are sucking money from California - not the other way around. Those darn liberals are out producing you nine ways to Sunday!

it is true that some states receive a far higher return on their federal income-tax contributions than others.

Just how pronounced is this disparity, and to what extent does it alter our perception of state and local tax rates around the country? WalletHub sought to answer those questions by comparing the 50 states in terms of three key metrics. Our findings, as well as expert commentary and a detailed methodology, can be found below.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
 

frazbo

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When Trump builds the wall, across the southern border, just have it continue up the east side of the state line, all the way up to the northern "border"...THEN cut off their water! I'm having a real mean streak today ;)
 
Unless you live in one of four very specific states, you are sucking money from California - not the other way around. Those darn liberals are out producing you nine ways to Sunday!

And if California ruled the country because the electoral college was done away with, they would shortly have themselves and the rest of the country in total poverty, a la Venezuela. The Red States restrain their self-destructive impulses.

Even so, California clearly is in a downward spiral, quickly becoming a Third World Hell-hole with protected enclaves of elites.
 

Uhhmmm...

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Double_A

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From what I understand California has been so hostile to energy that they can't even begin to survive without electricity coming from other states. Cut that off and see how well California does.

Won't take long to see what happens.

It's my understanding Calif prohibited purchasing electricity generated by coal.

However Calif's go-to supplier when So Calif needs extra juice is Arizona....which was selling Calif electricity generated from Coal fired plants in AZ...
 

Double_A

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When Trump builds the wall, across the southern border, just have it continue up the east side of the state line, all the way up to the northern "border"...THEN cut off their water! I'm having a real mean streak today ;)

I was not aware of any sources of water for Calif coming from out of state? Do you know of any?
 

Double_A

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If these Arsebags try to leave the union they are going to be seriously surprised when the northern half of the state LEAVE THEM and CUT OFF THEIR WATER!!! Wouldn''t that be fun? LONG LIVE JEFFERSON!!!!!!


It's a plan! So. Cal would have to go desal and the environmentalists would go apeshit
 

Be Well

may all be well
Cali sucks water from most of the western half of the US.

Long story - most comes from in state but LA gets from the CO river.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

The Colorado River originates more than 1,000 miles (1,600 km) from California in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado and Wyoming and forms the state's southeastern border in the Mojave Desert. Unlike the other California watersheds, essentially all of the water flowing in the Colorado originates outside the state. The Colorado is a critical source of irrigation and urban water for southern California, providing between 55 and 65 percent of the total supply.[12]
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I do think that strict enforcement of immigration laws would drain CA of its socialist masses like a bathtub.

FYI - more than half of CA water is "environmental water" which must go untouched to the sea.
 

zeker

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“Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land,"

well... if the shoe fits......
 
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