CHAT Brain Scans and red flagged gun confiscation

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All4liberty

Senior Member
Being from Indiana, I was interested in the Fed x shooting where the mother of the shooter had reported him the year before. If the call for "red flagged" laws increase, which they likely will, is there a way to get out in front of this and it took me to brain scans of the criminally ill.

In a short the brain scans of mentally criminally ill look different. Below are a couple of articles worth reading. I would much prefer a brain scan instead of therapist's interview in determining that my conservative views are considered dangerous because they don't fit the left's narrative. I guess I am saying a brain scan might help to prevent red flag laws being used against conservatives. Just a thought.

Here are a couple of articles Inside the brain of a killer: the ethics of neuroimaging in a criminal conviction
and Brain scans of incarcerated men reveal reduced gray matter in homicide offenders.
 
Meadowlark

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That is opening pandora's box to handy pseudo science for gun grabbers. Some magical technology that supposedly "differentiates those crazy dangerous gun owners from model progressive citizens". In the old soviet union dissidents were cruelly treated in the mental health system, because people who protested being in the workers paradise had to be crazy.
 
D

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Welcome to the world of pre-crime.

Long term available statistics say an optical scan could handle most of this, but that would be racisss.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Brain scans would never hold up in court, just like polygraphs today. You’ll need to think of something else.
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Ayn Rand said it well

It is a grave error to suppose that a dictatorship rules a nation by means of strict, rigid laws which are obeyed and enforced with rigorous, military precision. Such a rule would be evil, but almost bearable; men could endure the harshest edicts, provided these edicts were known, specific and stable; it is not the known that breaks men’s spirits, but the unpredictable. A dictatorship has to be capricious; it has to rule by means of the unexpected, the incomprehensible, the wantonly irrational; it has to deal not in death, but in sudden death; a state of chronic uncertainty is what men are psychologically unable to bear.
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The "global climate crisis" thus becomes a nearly perfect vehicle to impose rules on humanity. Comprehensive and irrefutable proof of its existence is not found, and even rules can't be proved to remediate, but the law relies on the "feelz" of those creating the law. Given a widespread acceptance the "Global Climate" rules could be enforced and expanded, ad infinitum. But capriciously.

One producer who happens to garner profit for the Chinese nation is allowed unlimited carbon credits, a pass on Climate Regulation, while another who employs a vast range of American ability and is profitable in doing so finds itself under onerous regulatory burden. One's "connection" in government becomes more important than the marketplace, the profitability, even the jobs and well being of the people who are employed in the latter example, or even a national productive economic health.

The best rules for a dictatorship are those which exist at some "whim." In the case of Red Flagging, the whim has been someone's "professional opinion." Ask a hundred psychologists and you might have a hundred answers, all arrayed out on a bell curve centered somewhere around "not sure." It remains the state decision WHICH end of this bell curve is most meaningful - and to this horse's knowledge, there is not an appeal process to the results of a contrary decision.

A brain scan would likewise be equally arbitrary. Again like a Radiologist, a hundred readings might result in a bell curve again centered around "not sure." And again it remains state decision to the meaningfulness.

Having reached a professional opinion/radiology reading for some firearm infraction either actual or perceived, you can pretty much predict which end of the bell curve will be meaningful for the state. The state errs always on the side of "caution" - and it's "for the children."

Dobbin
 
Milkweed Host

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
Millwright said:
I read that cops and career criminals often have similar personality traits
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I first read this in the early 1980's and can't dispute it.
I suspect this is why so many of the older cops were able to get the job done.
They had that connection. Back then the public really didn't care how the job got done,
as long it was handled and they didn't want to hear about the details. Cops were allowed
great latitude in taking out the garbage.

I don't think criminals and cops have that connection today.

I'm not sure where the current law enforcers are coming from.
They are very electronic devices smart but many suck on the streets.
They watch lots of youtube videos and want all the latest gidgets but
can't connect/talk to the dirtbags on the street.

Just my two cents, nothing more.
 
Oscar Wilde

Oscar Wilde

Membership Revoked
Milkweed Host said:
I don't think criminals and cops have that connection today.
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Mehbe not.
I served with this Army Cpt, met his family on some occasion, lots of tension. Thought it might have been deployment concerns but none of my bidness.

He later became a metro Nashville poleece and later still a convicted murderer.

See, Mike was a bit of a douche. He was tolerated more than liked. The tension that I sensed was the result of
marital discourse. What ever the cause Mike wasn't havin it.
He came home one day, the Mrs. had packed up and went to mother's.
Mike went to mother's and found the Mrs. alone, thank Father, took his duty 12 gauge with 25 rounds of 00 and
turned her into shredded meat.

There are numerous instances of abhorrent behavior by enforcers of law that don't receive national attention ...
There was the Houston I think, Texas, Poleece that subjected some young woman to a roadside gynecological
exam. Takes a special kind of demented for such ... I don't recall that any of the poleeces were qualified and licensed
to conduct such a procedure ....

Anyway, we as a species, regardless of occupation, are in a pretty sad state.

O.W.
 
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