INSANITY Blackouts Plague the Northeast as Democrat Officials Declare War on Utility Companies

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Blackouts Plague Northeast as Democrats Attack Utility Companies
Hannah Bleau
7-8 minutes

Power outages have plagued the northeast in the days following Tropical Storm Isaias, thrusting the impotence of officials, some of whom have attacked utility companies, to the forefront.

Isaias made landfall in North Carolina last week, making its way up the East Coast and causing mass power outages across the northeast. Residents of Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New Jersey, and New York went without power for days, with tens of thousands still dealing with blackouts. On Monday, the New York Times reported that some 90,000 customers “mostly in New York and Connecticut,” continued to face the world without electricity.

While utility companies are working to restore power, all eyes are turning to the vulnerable population residing in nursing homes, but this time, the virus is not the only threat. A heatwave descended upon the northeast this week, increasing concerns.

Residents of Connecticut have directed the bulk of their anger at electric company Eversource. As of Monday evening, over 68,000 Eversource customers remained without power, according to the Hartford Courant. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) has called on Eversource CEO Jim Judge to resign, but Democrat Gov. Ned Lamont (D) does not believe that is the answer.

“Right now everybody’s saying, ‘Off with their heads. Let’s sue them,’ but you did that last time. And you’ve had three different CEOs, so that’s not the issue,” Lamont said, suggesting that the company offer refunds to customers as an act of goodwill.

“If I were Eversource, I’d go beyond the call of duty when it comes to how we can try and make good for the people who have been hit hard by this,” Lamont said. “That’d be refunds, helping out the people who’ve had spoiled foods and the such.”

While Eversource stated that it will have power restored to the bulk of customers by Tuesday, Lamont hopes state regulators “adopt performance-based measures that would penalize utilities for poor responses in the future,” according to the Hartford Courant.

“It seems to me that if you do really well, you deserve a better rate of return, and if you don’t perform, if you leave tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands without service for days on end, now we’re going on a week, there should be penalties to pay,” Lamont said. “There’s going to be a cost for bad performance and a benefit for good performance.”

However, Eversource, which reportedly was not prepared for the 800,000 outages across the state, indicated in a statement on Monday that the slow response could have something to do with the pandemic-related restrictions and safety protocols, classifying linemen’s current work environment as “difficult.”

“We know how urgently customers need their power restored, especially right now given the pandemic and hot summer weather, and we are making significant progress,” Eversource President of Regional Electric Operations Craig Hallstrom said.

“Our crews and the thousands of out-of-state crews working alongside them have done a tremendous job under difficult conditions — working in the heat while abiding by social distancing and pandemic safety protocols,” Hallstrom continued.

“The field crews and thousands of support personnel working behind the scenes are committed to staying on the job until every customer has their power back,” he added.

Eversource indicated that approximately 35,000 customers remained without power as of Tuesday morning.

New York has also faced mass outages, but Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) has placed the blame on utility companies, announcing an investigation into PSE&G and Con Edison while thousands, as of Monday, remain without power.

“Con Ed and PSE&G did a lousy job. It’s a technical term — a lousy job,” Cuomo said. “They were not prepared and they didn’t anticipate what it would take to get online quickly.”

Cuomo also noted that their franchises weren’t absolutely secure.

“They can require fines, penalties, restitution, and I want the utilities to know that we do not abide by the concept in New York that anything is too big to fail,” he said. “Your franchise can be revoked.”

“I’m not bluffing,” the Democrat governor said. “If you’re not serving the people of this state, they give you a license to provide a service. If you don’t provide the service, they will revoke the license and the license is your franchise.”

Both companies stated that they are moving to restore power as promptly and quickly as possible.

While unrelated to the storm, another blackout descended upon sections of Manhattan and Queens last Friday, which officials blamed on a “transmission issue”:

On Monday, New York City experienced yet another outage, which affected roughly 3,600 residents of the Bronx. According to Spectrum News, the company attributed the disruption to a “cable outage.”

Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) appeared to join Cuomo’s call, questioning the efficacy of private utility companies.

“My question remains: why is this being done by a private company? Can a private company even possibly be responsive enough to the people? I’m not sure,” he told NY1 Political Anchor Errol Louis.

“I think the bigger conversation, Errol, is, should this be a publicly-owned utility that we can hold accountable?” he asked.

Approximately 4,200 people were still without power in New York City as of Tuesday morning.

New Jersey, which was also battered by the storm, has reported that power has been restored for the bulk of its residents, with 6,659 homes remaining without power as of Monday. Democrat Gov. Phil Murphy (D) said throughout the process, that his office was “pressing all major utilities to restore power as quickly and safely as possible.” About 780 customers were still without power as of Tuesday morning.

While the bulk of outages in Gov. Tom Wolf’s (D) Pennsylvania have been restored, customers in Chester County say they have been, quite literally, left in the dark.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported:
Power companies have restored electricity to nearly all of the 700,000 customers in Pennsylvania and New Jersey knocked out last week. But in Chester County, some Peco customers say they were gaslighted by company representatives who insisted that their power was on, even when their homes were dark.
“People were calling like three and four times a day and still being told they didn’t have an outage,” said Dina Hitchcock, who lives on Hallman Mill Road in semi-rural East Vincent Township and was forced to mount a Facebook campaign to convince the Philadelphia electric company that, yes, they had no power.
Peco attributed the confusion, in part, to human error.

“In a small number of isolated cases, human error may cause customers to receive conflicting information about their outage when information is entered manually into our system,” Mayra Bergman, Peco’s vice president of communications, said, assuring that they are “working on corrective actions needed to minimize these incidents.”
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Since this seems to happen with a certain amount of regularity in that region....like EVERY YEAR. Should some amount of responsibility be left on the citizens door step? Florida gets tropical storms and hurricane threats EVERY YEAR!! You'd think people would prepare for such eventualities instead of whinning and crying about not having power, water, food, shelter, etc., etc.

Hellooooooo it's called WEATHER!! It happens every year. As in EVERY single year. Happened last year. Will probably happen again this year and most likely next year as well and the year after that, and after that, and after that. DOH!

Also....maybe it time to go to UNDERGROUND utilities? Where trees and wind can't take out the lines.
 

The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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Since this seems to happen with a certain amount of regularity in that region....like EVERY YEAR. Should some amount of responsibility be left on the citizens door step? Florida gets tropical storms and hurricane threats EVERY YEAR!! You'd think people would prepare for such eventualities instead of whinning and crying about not having power, water, food, shelter, etc., etc.

Hellooooooo it's called WEATHER!! It happens every year. As in EVERY single year. Happened last year. Will probably happen again this year and most likely next year as well and the year after that, and after that, and after that. DOH!

Also....maybe it time to go to UNDERGROUND utilities? Where trees and wind can't take out the lines.

This problem is not in Florida. It's New York and Connecticut. We do not get tropical storms/hurricanes in the northeast every year. we do get ice storms pretty regularly, which often has a similar effect, but the outages are rarely so large.

And underground utilities are not practical up here in the northeast, where the ground is frequently bedrock, and freezes solid buried under a foot of snow for 6 months of the year.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, a whole house generator can solve the power issue - assuming of course your state ALLOWS NatGas or propane. When the outage is widespread due to lines & trees down; perhaps poles snapped - or flooding in the underground cable transformers - it TAKES AWHILE for even large crews to get around to each & every person and solve their specific problem.

I'm with Shadowman on this issue.
 
When Obama declared war on the coal companies, it motivated me to purchase a good generator and the things I would need to go with it. I bought 100' of cable, receptacle box's and everything else I thought I would need.
It's been sitting in the shed for years now, unused. I really need to get off my ass and put that project behind me.
I really want to build a nice generator "shack" to put it in when it's being used.
My only problem with that is where to place it in the back yard.
We have had snow drifts here that were over 6 feet tall.
 

Keric4

Contributing Member
This problem is not in Florida. It's New York and Connecticut. We do not get tropical storms/hurricanes in the northeast every year. we do get ice storms pretty regularly, which often has a similar effect, but the outages are rarely so large.

And underground utilities are not practical up here in the northeast, where the ground is frequently bedrock, and freezes solid buried under a foot of snow for 6 months of the year.


We have preparedness drilled into our heads beginning June 1st (start of hurricane season), there really is no excuse for not being ready. We have a grinder for our sewage, that is connected to our electric (common in our area), so when the power goes out, we cant shower, use toilet, do dishes, or wash clothes, because everything having to do with the water goes thru that grinder. So you bet Im filling any and every container available with water.

As for the underground power lines, my sister lived in a developement down here that had them. When we had two hurricanes back to back in 2004, she lost power for over two weeks, while we (traditional lines) lost power for only 2 days.
 

Secamp32

Veteran Member
I got an email from a liberal, local official complaining that Con Ed had $200 million in profit last quarter while we were without power for 4 days. I emailed him and mention that with over 3 millions customers that less than $20 per month per customer in profit.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Because of the disastrous fire that took out the entire town of Paradise and killed over 80 people due to a power line starting that massive fire, every damn time we get a little breeze now Edison is shutting off the power to rural areas. Last winter we got a huge wet snow fall in our mountain region and every tree that could fall down on power lines did. Took weeks to clear that mess up. We now have a whole house back up generator that runs on natural gas as well as a multi fuel back up generator for our back up generator. Not freezing my arse off again like last winter.
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Most power companies have an easement that they should keep clear of trees to diminish the opportunity for falling trees to damage the power lines, but in liberal socialist environmentalist states undoubtedly prevent tree cutting.

Our local electric utility company just came through our areas and cut down all of the trees in the utility easement.

Texican....
 

Keric4

Contributing Member
In our neighborhood, the telephone poles are in back of the house. The utility company has been good with replacing the old wooden poles with concrete ones, but we still have a wood one, so will see how much longer that lasts.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Lights out Biden!

“Probably Not the Best Roll Out” – Power Out, No Air Conditioning at Biden-Harris Event Site – Periscope Livestream Down For 15 Minutes!

 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Most power companies have an easement that they should keep clear of trees to diminish the opportunity for falling trees to damage the power lines, but in liberal socialist environmentalist states undoubtedly prevent tree cutting.

Our local electric utility company just came through our areas and cut down all of the trees in the utility easement.

Texican....
The easement I am familiar with used to cover all trees capable of falling on the line. I am told that in Cali, the environmentalists negated them. And so trees fall on the line.
 
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IRoberge

Veteran Member
This problem is not in Florida. It's New York and Connecticut. We do not get tropical storms/hurricanes in the northeast every year. we do get ice storms pretty regularly, which often has a similar effect, but the outages are rarely so large.

And underground utilities are not practical up here in the northeast, where the ground is frequently bedrock, and freezes solid buried under a foot of snow for 6 months of the year.

I am in Connecticut and I knew this storm was coming. In my AO if a flea farts near a transformer we lose power. People need to learn from the past and prepare themselves!!!! The whining and crying from the General populous within hours of the storm was downright maddening. I wanted to scream "Take some responsibility for yourselves you sniveling babies!!!!" But that would draw attention to the fact that I was not inconvenienced by my 5 day outage.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
In these types of situations usually power companies get out of state help from other power companies but I would not volunteer to go to either NY, CT, or NJ because of the quarantine restrictions they put in place, seems awfully hypocratical if they allow utility workers to help them without quarantining for 14 days first if they are allowed to work without doing the quarantine. After all the virus must be spread in Zoom meetings even if your home alone so imagine what a high voltage transmission line could do.
 

Keric4

Contributing Member
My inlaws live outside NYC. They just got back their power late last nite. My fil was in a hospital bed downstairs and my mil couldnt raise or lower it. She ended up borrowing a generator to be able to do that and run the fridge and a fan. Plus we sent her a solar phone charger (Amazon), cause she ran the car battery dead charging her phone. She never thought it would happen to them and I hope she learned something from it. They never lost power during Sandy.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As times get hard I think more and more utility companies will cut back on employees and maintenance which will result in more and longer power outages.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Most power companies have an easement that they should keep clear of trees to diminish the opportunity for falling trees to damage the power lines, but in liberal socialist environmentalist states undoubtedly prevent tree cutting.
Correct. In Californicate there are laws against brush/easement clearing
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
While Eversource stated that it will have power restored to the bulk of customers by Tuesday, Lamont hopes state regulators “adopt performance-based measures that would penalize utilities for poor responses in the future,” according to the Hartford Courant.
In other words, make it more like it USED to be when Utilities were responsible to a PUC.

If you wait long enough - even an unfashionable tie is back in style.

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Dobbin
 

Big Sarge

Old School
Those politicians have no clue as to what it takes to restore power to such a large area SAFELY. I'm sure they have all these delusions of it should only take a few hours. People take that magic 3 holed box in their wall for granted so much. There is so many liability issues and safety concerns associated with that 7700 volt line. To do it right takes time and those line crews are working the quickest they can safely. They want to get back home to their families just as much as the folks want the juice back on. I'm glad I just maintain/repair their equipment and didn't decide to become a line jockey. I woulda done fell out already just from the heat.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Wonder if the utilities out east are like here in Illinois?

... where ComEd (major power supplier) has been locked in with the demon-crat party for many decades

And was recently charged with bribery to get special treatment by giving jobs to the corrupts speaker for life of the house

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Payoffs and sweet deals on what they can charge their customers seems to go hand in hand where ever demon-crats rule.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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It's the plan.

Hammer the utilities until the only thing left is for the state to control them.

Look at PG&E in california.

They are basically a state entity, from what I gather.

Maybe not on paper, but in function.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Make them public utilities again - yes those monoliths have their problems too which is why they got broken up in the first place.

But, it is really kind of impossible in the long run to try to make profit-making corporations whose job is to MAKE MONEY for shareholders in charge of an ESSENTIAL SERVICE which people pretty much HAVE TO HAVE to survive and/or work in the modern world.

Because sooner or later something will happen as a giant fire in Paradise CA or a hurricane that takes out the entire Puerto Rican grid (and the Midwest or Northeast could be next) and suddenly there is simply no profit to be made, in fact, bankruptcy may be the only option.

Except it isn't really a bankruptcy because you can't just "sell-off" the towers, copper wires, and power plants or if you do, the same process with the next company just starts all over again.

It happened in Ireland too, everywhere that I am aware of that has "privatized" their electrical services, phone services,and their BASIC utilities has had similar problems.

At the very least make them either public utilities or non-profit corporations that can choose to Contract Out certain services to private industry where it makes sense but whose ultimate goal is PUBLIC SERVICES not THE SHAREHOLDERS.

ENRON was simply the first mass example of this mess, but it was hardly the last...(and I was visiting California the Summer they kept shutting off power to sell it for more cash to other States, for nearly a month).
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Samuel Insull was the promoter of the original concept of a PUC.


His Chicago area holdings came to include what is now Federal Signal Corporation, Commonwealth Edison, Peoples Gas, and the Northern Indiana Public Service Company, and held shares of many more utilities. Insull also owned significant portions of many railroads, mainly electric interurban lines, including the Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee Railroad, Chicago Rapid Transit Company, Chicago Aurora and Elgin Railroad, Gary Railways, and Chicago South Shore and South Bend Railroad. He helped modernize these railroads and others.[12]

As a result of owning these diverse companies, Insull is credited with being one of the early proponents for regulation of industry. He saw that federal and state regulation would recognize electric utilities as natural monopolies, allowing them to grow with little competition and to sell electricity to broader segments of the market. He used economies of scale to overcome market barriers by cheaply producing electricity with large steam turbines, such as the installations in the 1929 State Line Generating Plant in Hammond, Indiana. This made it easier to put electricity into homes.[citation needed]

In essence Insull saw that a competition between utilities was impossible simply because of the redundant infrastructure involved, infrastructure which had to be redundantly capitalized, invested, and (most important) "returned." Insull reasoned that competition between competing utilities would eventually wipe out any profit margin - and thereby wipe out their reason for being. A single competitive utility winner in usual human nature would "push the envelope" in pricing to the NEXT competitor - which for them was kerosene lamps and decentralized independent generation in factory and home. A situation counter productive to society - itself generating ANOTHER redundancy - and one which would hold back widespread adoption of centralized electrical power.

Instead, Insull proposed control of a "natural monopoly" as a substitute for free market forces - and in doing so, guaranteeing a "fair return" to investors. One utility/one capitalization/one profit margin/one control. The PUC was proposed to be a conglomeration of "civic minded interests" including the utility who together would survey the electrical, financial, and consumer markets and decide what "fair" was to be.

In the 1980s, Insull's insight was undone by "Deregulation" of the utilities and the separation of "Generation interests" and "Wires Company interest" where Generation would be subject to a free market competition, and the Wires company would continue in control of the PUC. The plan change was not fully implemented with differences between state entities - and the industry became a "patchwork quilt" of controlled/non-controlled generation and controlled wires/billing.

Deregulation had the result in making utility generation "less secure" - a sort of trade-off in capital investment cost against reliability of service. What deregulation brought was electric power "less secure" but "cheaper." Power could (in theory) be made cheaper as there was less redundancy in capitalization, and thereby more risk for those who engage in it. In the usual nature of risk, Utility generation has been quick to transfer that risk to the consumer whenever possible. And Deregulation Law allows it.

As Owner (a former utility mechanical engineer) says "You get what you pay for."

The problems being seen today are primarily the result of this 1980s deregulation and less power security resulting therefrom. The uncontrolled generators were sure to always sign "interruptable" contracts for power, a situation which was impossible during the PUC controlled generation era, and which today gives license for a power company to "throw up their hands" and simply shut off the power if there is not enough to go around. A situation which a generation ago under Insull's plan and the PUC would leave the utility "legally liable."

Not so today - thanks to Deregulation. A highly motivated but not well thought out or evenly implemented law. And they have the hubris to call this "progress?"

Again, thank your lawmakers for their insight and independent thought in doing this to you.

Horselaugh!

Dobbin
 
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Big Sarge

Old School
From what I understand, working for a power company, the utilities have to go through and get approval from the Public Regulatory Commission for the rates they can charge.
 

Bad Hand

Veteran Member
It sounds like these STUPID COVID rules are the major problem in getting power restored, wearing masks and social distancing under these conditions.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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You can pretty well tell who (not folks here- at least not many!) have never actually run wire, set posts (much less poles) or otherwise done even basic electrical stuff, by the whining. "OMG! It's been 9 hours, and they haven't gotten all the poles and wires down across several thousand square miles fixed, and my freezie pops are thawing! Ima gonna sue!"

We have a 15kw generator that runs off either of our big tractors, and try to keep enough fuel to run it for a minimum of a week or two, but I still have a stack of empty canning jars and lids to can up the meat in the freezers in case of an extended outage.

Stuff happens! And if a large enough storm hits, you won't have power back for WEEKS. There aren't huge stockpiles of poles or reels of wire, much less transformers to rebuild hundreds or thousands of miles of transmission lines.

At least out here in the boonies, we don't have to worry much about the neighbors rioting and burning down the neighborhood in frustration.

Summerthyme
 

ssonb

Senior Member
Its not just the C19 rules it is the Lineman unions, During Sandy I talked with more than one volunteer line crew from down here that was turned away from helping restore power cause of Union rules, The southern line crews all said almost to a man "F...em let them live in the dark"
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Here we have two power companies. Georgia Power and Okeefenokee Rural Power. Hands down Georgia Power is horrible. It costs more per kilowatt and their service is spotty to say the least. Most of the county has their power.

On the other hand Okeefenokee is much better. Does the power go down? Yep! But is it back up within minutes to hours where Georgia Power is unknown and has taken as much as a week.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
It appears the elected officials have no idea what's going on and what it takes to restore power.
There are trees down everywhere and the trees need to be removed first and in some cases thats necessary in order to gain access to the downed wires where there is another tree that needs to be cleared.
They have to pull fuses all over the place before they even touch the wires and do to a very good search of the area before they put the fuses back in.

Really your on your own so have things in place to hold you out until power is restored and in the worst case power can be out for a month or longer.
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
:mad::mad::mad:


Eversource Executive Sold Shares Day Before Isaias Hit
By Christine Stuart • Published August 12, 2020 • Updated on August 12, 2020 at 10:28 pm


Just one day before storms ravaged Connecticut – leaving over 700,000 people without power across the state – Gregory Butler, the executive vice president and general counsel of Eversource sold thousands of shares of company stock.

According to documents filed with the security and exchange commission documents, Butler sold 5,625 shares trading at around $88 per share. The trade was worth about $500,000. He still owns about 76,000 units of Eversource as a part of his executive compensation package.

While Butler did not offer a comment -- an Eversource spokesperson told NBC Connecticut the move is completely legal.
“A portion of our executive compensation is in the form of Eversource shares and periodically they are sold by our executives. There is a minimum level of shares required and all of our executives hold well above the minimum level. The ability for executives to buy and sell shares is governed by a previously established process – and Mr. Butler followed that process and received approval to sell his shares on that specific date. ”

The utility is facing ratepayer rage following its response to Tropical Storm Isaias.

“Even with an entire state out for a week, a state that they’re supposed to be serving electricity to, the stock has barely moved and he was able to cash out on that, and that’s the problem,” Lon Seidman said.

Seidman is an Eversource customer from Essex.

“The optics are bad. The timing is bad. I mean, clearly they knew a storm was coming when they made the stock movement. And I think that’s something that the SEC needs to investigate and share the findings of that investigation with the public,” Seidman said.

The Securities and Exchange Commission declined comment for this report. Gov. Ned Lamont was critical.

“I got no problem with paying good money to people who do extraordinary work. Outperform in a competitive environment. Those type of CEOs more likely than not deserve what they get. That’s not the case with a utility. Where you’re a natural monopoly and you don’t have any competition,” Lamont says.

Lamont says he’s looking at changing how the regulators regulate utilities.

“If you can’t deliver electricity in a week where do you go? You’ve got no choice. That’s the difference,” Lamont said.
U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal said he also wants to see a shakeup in the management at Eversource.

“As well as the potential breakup of the company or some fundamental change,” Blumenthal said.
 

Secamp32

Veteran Member
We had a crew from KY working down the street repairing power lines last week. I had to give them directions how to get around a closed road. The road they needed doesn't show correctly in Google maps.
We had a big storm maybe 10 years ago with a lot of power lines down. The town pitched a huge fit and Con Ed came thru and cut down a ton of trees and branches that were near the power lines. The town then threw an even bigger fit about them cutting down the trees. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. The liberal gov't wants perfect power all the time with now of the cost. Now the want Con Ed to bury the power lines. That would cost hundreds of millions of $. Crazy.
 
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brokenwings

Veteran Member
Well here's the really bad news. The electric companies cannot get any transformers until 2021. They do all own a certain amount of them they keep in stock but after they are gone there isn't any more. We are looking at long blackouts till who knows when? A lineman who works for a large company told me this a couple of days ago.
 
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