GOV/MIL Army Sec: American Women Could Be Required to Register for Draft if Combat Jobs Integrated

[Housecarl]

In all frankness, I'm surprised this hasn't come up a lot sooner.....

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http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...register-for-draft-if-combat-jobs-integrated/

Army Sec: American Women Could Be Required to Register for Draft if Combat Jobs Integrated

BY: Morgan Chalfant
October 12, 2015 4:53 pm

Army Secretary John McHugh said Monday that opening up all combat roles to women would push lawmakers to engage in an “emotional discussion and debate” about whether or not women should also be required to enter the draft.

“If your objective is true and pure equality, then you have to look at all aspects and at some point Selective Service will have to be one of those things considered very carefully,” McHugh said at the U.S. Army’s annual meeting in Washington, D.C., according to the Washington Examiner.

McHugh said that Congress would have to decide to require women to sign up for the draft.

His remarks come just weeks after the service secretaries were required to submit recommendations to Defense Secretary Ash Carter as to whether certain combat positions should remain shuttered to women. It is widely believed that the Marine Corps requested an exception for some infantry and reconnaissance units, while the other services requested no exceptions.

Carter is due to make a decision on women in combat roles by January 1 after hearing arguments from service leaders.

The role of female service members in combat has become a contentious topic, especially since a study conducted by the Marine Corps found that mixed-gender units were significantly outperformed by all-male units in simulated combat operations.

Ray Mabus, the secretary of the Navy, received criticism from military leaders and lawmakers for dismissing the study’s findings and suggesting that its organizers were biased against women.

Sgt. Maj. Justin LeHew, a Marine war hero who helped conduct the nine-month study, called Mabus’ comments “way off base” in a Facebook post and argued that all combat roles should not be opened up to women until the country requires women to sign up for the draft.

“In this country we preach equality. But to place these mandates on the military before this country has even considered making females register, just like males, for the selective service is in all aspects out of touch with reality,” LeHew wrote.

 

[Garryowen]

Don't listen to some SMAJ with experience. Pay attention to some metro-sexual politician who was appointed by another politician who couldn't even hold onto his law license. (Or, his birth certificate.)

 

[TeapotTempest]

“If your objective is true and pure equality, then you have to look at all aspects and at some point Selective Service will have to be one of those things considered very carefully,” McHugh said at the U.S. Army’s annual meeting in Washington, D.C., according to the Washington Examiner.

THANK YOU.

 

[Dozdoats]

"Be the first one on your block

To have your son daughter come home in a box."

Vietnam era protest song, revised...
==================================

Mabus - where did we just see that name?

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...y-won’t-Fight-except-against-“male-privilege”

 

[ainitfunny]

Women should be careful what they wish for and approve.

 

[4RIVERS]

I'm not in agreement with our illustrious secretary of the army. I still don't believe women should be in front line combat units and I especially don't believe they or men should be subject to a draft. I have the highest respect for our volunteer military and truly believe that's the best way to defend our country. Don't think I'm knocking draftee's. They can be as dedicated as the volunteer/professional military personnel when it has been used in the past, but I don't believe in conscripting people to fight wars they might not believe in. Given the present leadership of this country and my great distrust of them, I would have a hard time sending my child to fight for them. It would all depend upon the cause and if they volunteer that's a complete different story too.

 

[TeapotTempest]

Women should be careful what they wish for and approve.

Exactly. You want equality? This goes along with it, folks.

 

[MountainBiker]

Exactly. You want equality? This goes along with it, folks.

Yep, and it speaks to the hypocrisy of the libbers in their not demanding that women be forced to register for the draft. Their version of equality is narrowly defined on the rights side of things, while ignoring responsibilities such as this.

 

[Troke]

Good Grief! As the NATION mag yea these many years ago made clear, they wanted women drafted and killed. That would stop our military from having any impact outside the US which in those days was holding off Russian Imperialism

 

[jba48]

It would be a cold day in hell before I ever let one of my daughters be drafted. My sons, too, but especially my daughters.

 

[big kumara]

Baby boom of epic proportions.

 

[Publius]

Put them feminist and dikes on the front line, like cannon fodder.

 

[naturallysweet]

The courts have ruled that we women don't need to register, because we didn't serve in battles on the front lines.

The idiots who are pushing equality in the military, are looking at the whole picture.

On a plus side. As soon as the first woman is drafted, the the birthrate with skyrocket. I have multiple family members who only exist because their mothers signed up for the he military, and were then called up to serve overseas.

 

[WildDaisy]

The problem is that most women do not want this feminist crap. I am a woman...I'm happy to have a man who is the leader of my home, the leader spiritually, who earns the living and I am happy keeping the home and the children. I work when there is need to make ends meet, but it is not my first choice. My biblical role is not in the workforce and is not equal to a man in the sense of jobs. I have equal value as a person, but our roles in society are different, not the same. Our strengths as male and female are in different areas. While both of us are capable of doing the others role when in need, we do not excel at them because we weren't made for it.

 

[Reasonable Rascal]

On a plus side. As soon as the first woman is drafted, the the birthrate with skyrocket. I have multiple family members who only exist because their mothers signed up for the he military, and were then called up to serve overseas.

How many years before the recruits (draftees) are given a choice - accept a long-acting birth control, or a dishonorable discharge? You KNOW it would happen.

RR

 

[Spanky]

If females are going to serve in combat arms branches, ALL women need to be subject to the draft if and when it is implemented. I think women in combat is a terrible idea and I say that as a veteran infantryman. If women don't want to be drafted it is up to them to get some control over the feminazis. Men are not able to do this as it just adds gas to the fire for those same feminazis. Equality is equality!

 

[straightstreet]

The problem is that most women do not want this feminist crap. I am a woman...I'm happy to have a man who is the leader of my home, the leader spiritually, who earns the living and I am happy keeping the home and the children. I work when there is need to make ends meet, but it is not my first choice. My biblical role is not in the workforce and is not equal to a man in the sense of jobs. I have equal value as a person, but our roles in society are different, not the same. Our strengths as male and female are in different areas. While both of us are capable of doing the others role when in need, we do not excel at them because we weren't made for it.

 

[night driver]

WAY long before that becomes an issue, they'll be defending home & hearth and local towns.

 

[Witness]

delete, duplicate

 

[Witness]

If females are going to serve in combat arms branches, ALL women need to be subject to the draft if and when it is implemented. I think women in combat is a terrible idea and I say that as a veteran infantryman. If women don't want to be drafted it is up to them to get some control over the feminazis. Men are not able to do this as it just adds gas to the fire for those same feminazis. Equality is equality!

The feminazis push abortion, homosexuality, equality, gun confiscation and women in combat.
They are totally out of control, it is impossible to reason or even talk with
them. They are democrats. They are insane.

 

[Capt. Senile]

How many years before the recruits (draftees) are given a choice - accept a long-acting birth control, or a dishonorable discharge? You KNOW it would happen.

RR

My birth mother was a single Airman back in 1957 when I was born. Back then, female Airmen, married or single, were discharged from the service after the birth of their first child.

 

[GreenGecko]

WAY long before that becomes an issue, they'll be defending home & hearth and local towns.

When the enemy is already in your gates, that can be so true:

Today’s generation of soldiers hold the promise of profound gender integration within the IDF. Currently, 92% of jobs are open to women, but this number will continue to rise as both women and men have a stake in creating a gender diverse environment where every individual thrives.

https://www.idfblog.com/blog/2015/02/08/girls-guns-caracal-battalions-newest-combat-soldiers/

Girls & Guns: Caracal Battalion’s Newest Combat Soldiers
Published on: February 8, 2015

The IDF prides itself on being an institution of nation and social cohesion. In 2004, the IDF continued in its tradition of innovation and established a unique mixed-gender infantry unit: the Caracal Battalion. Soldiers from both sexes train and serve together in this unit on the Israel-Egypt border. The IDF Blog followed the battalion’s newest recruits during their last week of training and took an exclusive look at what makes this unit extraordinary.

The Caracal Battalion’s training base is located in the Negev Desert, in southern Israel. After seven months and three weeks of training, the Caracal recruits face another 7 days and 21 kilometers of a final march before they can call themselves combat soldiers.

We have gone through a lot together,” explains Pvt. Shalev. “We all came here with different backgrounds. Since the beginning of the training one goal has connected us: we all chose to serve in this unit because of the symbol it represents.”

Pvt. Shalev – like every other female soldier in the battalion – volunteered to join Caracal even though she was required to sign for an extra year of military service. “Two or three years: it is not such a big difference,” she explains. “Being a combat soldier is a once-in-a-lifetime experience.”

When asked about the dynamic between male and female soldiers in her company, Pvt. A. says: “Here we do not make any distinction between the sexes. We both wear the same uniform, carry the same weapons. If a male soldier is injured, he knows I will carry him to safety – same goes the other way around.”

This feeling of gender-equality is shared by one of the soldier’s female commanders, Staff Sgt. Stela. “I’ve never felt the difference between male and female soldiers,” she says. “I think that this unit has a lot of potential. We female soldiers are able to do a lot more than people realize.”

Staff Sgt. Stela immigrated to Israel from Brazil at age 18. “Caracal was always on my mind. I came here to serve my people and my country,” she recounts. “I was born into a very religious family in Rio de Janeiro. I am observant and very feminine, but defending your country is not a question of gender. Being a combat soldier is about self-sacrifice and motivation.”

“I discovered myself here. I became stronger,” Stela concludes. “I can now accomplish physical tasks that I would have never considered doing before, and I know my soldiers – both male and female – also discovered their true capabilities during their training.”

The IDF is proud to see that more women are volunteering to join the ranks of mixed gender combat units, and that the idea of brothers and sisters in arms that started as a revolutionary idea 11 years ago has now become a well-accepted fact.


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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4687095,00.html

Meet the IDF's second co-ed battalion - the Lions of Jordan
The newest battalion in the IDF is making history, where men and women fight side by side to defened Israel's border with Jordan.
Yoav Zitun
Published: 08.05.15, 00:23 / Israel News

Israel's eastern border just became safer when the Lions of Jordan battalion, which for the first time has female fighters training and fighting alongside men, took over security duties in the Jordan Valley.
The lionesses finished their combat training a few weeks ago and are now ready to take over a sector, much like the first co-ed battalion in the IDF, Caracal, which is responsible for securing the Egyptian border.

A third co-ed battalion will be formed in the coming year and will take over the Arava sector on Israel's border with Jordan. It will likely be named Tamar.

Meanwhile, in the Jordan Valley, the new female fighters replaced the armored reserve battalion currently stationed there, whose members came under fire at the Beka'ot checkpoint only a month ago by a terrorist who shot at them from close range - and killed him.

The new battalion, which was formed to replace the Kfir Brigade's Lavi Battalion that was dispersed, will be part of the 417th Jordan Valley Brigade. New recruits will undergo boot camp and advanced training at the Nahal Brigade's training base near Arad.

The battalion will eventually have a 50-50 ratio between men and women, like Caracal. Meanwhile, however, there is currently a majority of female fighter in light of a 40 percent increase in motivation of young women to serve as fighters.

"The battalion already includes female commanders and officers who came to us from Caracal," The Lions of Jordan's first battalion commander, Lt.-Col. Shai Penso told Ynet.

Penso, who comes from the Nahal Brigade, said the female fighters "are more motivated to prove themselves than male fighters, and they have better aim at the firing range or in exercises for the simple reason that they have higher concentration and better discipline."

According to the battalion commander, despite the relative quiet in the sector, the battalion faces threats from Palestinian cities Tubas and Tayasir as well as hostile cities like Nablus and Jenin. However, when it comes to training, the battalion is also preparing for other scenarios, like "the increase of radical groups coming to us from the border with Jordan." However, Penso said, "this still not on the horizon because of the strength of the Jordanian army."

The first company commander in the battalion, Major Aviya Hilel, is a Golani alumnus. "There's no difference between a male and female fighter. There are female fighters here that if you put them in the Paratroopers or Golani, you wouldn't know the difference. We have female fighters who were better than Kfir Brigade fighters in a fitness competition," he said.

Two of Aviya's soldiers are two lone soldiers who made aliyah from France, one man and one woman.

Corporal Lea Darmon is one of the few female soldiers in the IDF who fire a MAG machine gun. "From early on I wanted to be a fighter, to protect my country and contribute with a meaningful service. My parents in Paris are afraid, but I'm in contact with them and I'm not afraid," she says.

Lea fell in love with the IDF's mythological MAG machine gun in her very first days in the army, and asked her commanders for it. "Since, I've been attached to the MAG and it's always on me."

Her battalion friend, Corporal Eli Mimon who made aliyah from Marseille, said "I was offered to go to the Paratroopers but I refused because I wanted something special. I made aliyah out of Zionism, and it took me four years to get citizenship, that's why I only joined at the age of 21. We have female fighters who are better than male fighters. Lea is an insanely good shot, and everyone's counting on her."

 

[Housecarl]

Part of the problem the IDF has, and they've done those same performance studies that the USMC did years ago, is that they don't have the people they need in numbers to "hold the line". So they have to plug the women into more combat roles. One side effect of this is going to be the more liberal use of "fire and maneuver" than close engagement, particularly in urban areas. The bigger the threat, the more the firepower employed. Civilians caught in the middle of that will end up being more "collateral damage" and sources of propaganda and war crimes charges later.

 

[Dozdoats]

they don't have the people they need in numbers to "hold the line".

Demographics

is destiny ...

 

[IBelieve]

The problem is that most women do not want this feminist crap. I am a woman...I'm happy to have a man who is the leader of my home, the leader spiritually, who earns the living and I am happy keeping the home and the children. I work when there is need to make ends meet, but it is not my first choice. My biblical role is not in the workforce and is not equal to a man in the sense of jobs. I have equal value as a person, but our roles in society are different, not the same. Our strengths as male and female are in different areas. While both of us are capable of doing the others role when in need, we do not excel at them because we weren't made for it.

Thank you! I couldn't agree more.

 

[Adino]

Part of the problem the IDF has, and they've done those same performance studies that the USMC did years ago, is that they don't have the people they need in numbers to "hold the line". So they have to plug the women into more combat roles. One side effect of this is going to be the more liberal use of "fire and maneuver" than close engagement, particularly in urban areas. The bigger the threat, the more the firepower employed. Civilians caught in the middle of that will end up being more "collateral damage" and sources of propaganda and war crimes charges later.

i would agree and spin the logic ever so slightly to merely look at it from another angle

its not just demographics that are in play in the idf but the amt of territory that needs to be defended when observed thru the lens of the speed of modern warfare

when the entire geographical area that needs to be defended is that small, and modern warfare moves so fast, the need to have everyone who can shoulder a weapon trained, equipped, and supplied doing so as fast as possible becomes paramount

the us has ample males of battle age and a broad enough territory that a national draft should not be needed here

i also agree w/ chuck that our women will need to know how to fight and will be doing so and it will be in our neighborhoods not some God forsaken corner of the sandbox or africa

 

[vestige]

Part of the problem the IDF has, and they've done those same performance studies that the USMC did years ago, is that they don't have the people they need in numbers to "hold the line". So they have to plug the women into more combat roles. One side effect of this is going to be the more liberal use of "fire and maneuver" than close engagement, particularly in urban areas. The bigger the threat, the more the firepower employed. Civilians caught in the middle of that will end up being more "collateral damage" and sources of propaganda and war crimes charges later.

Cannon fodder has no gender.

 

[Sasquatch]

After I came back from Vietnam and the government allowed the guys to come back from Canada, I swore that not one of my kids or grand kids would ever be forced to enlist.

I agree equality should have no gender but he can Kiss My A$$ if he thinks he will force any of mine.

 

[Signwatcher]

Baby boom of epic proportions.

That's EXACTLY what I said I would do if the Draft was instituted....way back in the 70s when they first started talking about doing it.

 

[Foothiller]

All feminists and progressive women: FRONT OF THE LINE!

They agitate for 'women's' rights'.. LOL

How about the 'right' to register for the draft? The 'right' to be put in harm's way for some companies' financial gain?

Vietnam was our last conflict where conscripts were used. My uncle, a poor farm boy, was drafted and died there. My stepdad, another poor farm boy, was drafted, moved to helicopter door gunner, and survived 2 tours and numerous unplanned landings.

Sadly, he passed away 2 years ago, from cancer believed to be from his frequent exposure to Agent Orange == he was usually flying on Chinooks and handled the barrels quite a bit. I wasn't there and can only go by what he said and his photographs of his time over there.

Yes sign em up!

How do you like your equality now? When you too can be used as a pawn for somebody's profit? Your life thrown away like so much garbage for a better bottom line?

How's that for male privilege?

Feminism is a poisonous ideology. Created by 'intellectuals'. And what is has done has helped destroy the American family and created a huge group of mentally ill women, white women in particular.

The fairy tale about women being able to fill male roles is destroying our culture. I can't have babies, and women shouldn't be trying to be men.

I place tremendous value on women. I try to teach my daughters: What is the one thing you can do that no man can never do? What is the highest purpose in life? Making money? Working in a cubicle in a soul crushing corporation? Leasing a 5 series Beamer? Cats? Antidepressants? A degree (along with non-dischargeable student loans) in a useless subject? 20 different sexual partners before you decie to settle down?

I also tell them that men are waking up. Ever heard of "No Hymen, No Diamond"?
Nobody wants to shell out top dollar and make the maximum commitment for used goods. More sexual partners for females = less ability to bond with permanent mate (lots of studies show this), and lower value overall. This is a universal truth and why virginal brides were demanded in just about every successful culture the world over.

I don't want tmy daughters to swallow the feminist BS they're bombarded with daily, without at least considering that thousands of years of culture, a culture that survived and thrived, says otherwise.