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Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
So... as the rubber is meeting the road for ya'll, here is the EO in question.


And here are the folks writing the rules for this crap.


I'm posting this because for those of you who are trying to resist this crap, it helps to know what their ROI are.

Good luck to you all!
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wanna know a dark little secret that might shed some light on why EOs often carry what appears to be more weight than they are worth ?

All US social security number holders are considered under the law to be federal citizens, federal employees AND corporations.

And people think I’m crazy for walking back to original jurisdiction.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
My wife works for a defense contractor. Religious exemption guidelines come out for her on the 15. Guess we will see on that day whether she starts packing or not.

At least so far, here on the North Slope, I can continue to work as I have had Covid. It is being accepting in lieu of a vaccine. For now at least.

We just flew a guy out yesterday from our camp, positive. He has been vaxxed. Less than 3 months with the J&J. According to the daily HSE reports I get, 1/3 to 1/2 of all the positives up her are fully vaxxed and probly 1/2 of those have symptoms. The vaxx is shit and they are spreaders too.

As I have said before, it’s got nothing to do with stopping Covid. It’s all about control.

Will see how long I can still work when they mandate it for air travel.
 

Blue 5

Veteran Member
DoD civilian here. Just got an email from squadron commander about the vaccine requirement today. I'm going to tell them to pound sand. I'm not taking any shots and I'm not applying for any exemption; I reject the premise that I should beg for my rights. If they fire me they fire me.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
I posted this as an independent thread yesterday. There are at least 2 class action lawsuits working through the federal court system right now, and both are seeking an emergency injunction against the current vax mandates. Wheels are coming off the narrative left and right.

Liberty Counsel:

U.S. Military Versus Joe Biden
Oct 8, 2021

Read the powerful testimony of one of our clients, a chaplain with the rank of major in the U.S. Army, as we move forward in our class action lawsuit against Joe Biden’s Department of Defense (DOD) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Liberty Counsel will file suit early next week on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors, demanding they have the “option to accept or refuse” the shots and that their religious freedom be honored. —Mat

“Jesus Christ is my Sovereign King and the highest authority in my life. I have actively followed my Lord since a child.” So began the religious exemption request letter our client Joseph*, a chaplain and major in the U.S. Army, delivered to his command last month.

“I have wrestled over the current vaccine mandate until my conscience is completely clear,” wrote Joseph, as he described the hours of research and prayer he dedicated to this decision.

“I cannot consciously and willfully participate in child sacrifice,” wrote the chaplain before laying out the true and inarguable science behind the pharmaceutical industry’s reliance on using aborted children to produce their vaccines.
“For the record, I am not against vaccines per se, but I am unable to violate my true faith and allegiance to Jesus Christ (Exodus 20:1-3) by complicitly taking part in the murder of God’s children (Exodus 20:13), human beings created by God and for God,” Joseph wrote.

“Innocent human life in the womb belongs to God and is sacred (Jeremiah 1:5, Psalm 139:13). My faith prohibits me from participating in or benefiting from any abortion, no matter when the abortion took place.” Joseph went on to point out that some mRNA COVID shots are using the WALVAX-2 fetal tissue line. This line was developed just six years ago, in 2015, using nine babies who were delivered alive in their embryonic sacs, to be dissected while still living for this research.

But Biden does not care about the murdered children sacrificed to “medical progress.” Nor does he care about the religious liberty of this chaplain or any of the more than 5.7 million military personnel, federal employees and civilian contractors he has mandated be punished or fired unless they take the COVID jabs.

What Joe Biden is demanding is as unlawful as it is evil.
Early next week, Liberty Counsel will file a class action lawsuit on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors who are pleading for help against these unlawful decrees.

Civilian contractors are especially important to our national security, as many provide everything from the boots our troops wear to the technology behind the planes our military members fly. Firing them creates a “double whammy” by risking military readiness and national security.

The CDC’s VAERS database, which reflects less than 1% of all shot injuries, shows that as of the latest report, 752,801 people have suffered adverse reactions to the shots.

On June 29, the U.S. military itself published an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association Cardiology (JAMA Cardiology) admitting that the COVID shots are causing myocarditis in military members.

Members of the armed forces are facing dishonorable discharge. Federal employees and civilian contractors face termination.

Liberty Counsel WILL NOT STAND for Biden’s lawless actions.

We file suit early next week against Biden and other defendants on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors.
We need your help as never before. The volume of requests, short time frames and raw emotions involved in each case are unlike anything we have ever experienced.

ALL of the currently available COVID shots, as well as those under development, use the cell lines of aborted babies in the development and/or testing of their vaccines. The chaplain notes that while many try to claim that the fetal tissues used were proffered more than 40 years ago, he wrote that “there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that evil diminishes over time.”



View attachment 295437

Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit Overview:
  • Who: A group of federal employees lodged a class action lawsuit against President Biden and the Secretary of the Department of Defense Thursday.
  • Why: The group says that the recently announced Biden vaccine mandate violates the US Constitution and their religious freedom.
  • Where: The lawsuit is pending in federal court in Washington DC and the plaintiffs want to represent federal workers nationwide.
The recently announced Biden vaccine mandate has drawn a class action lawsuit filed by federal workers, including service members and contractors, who say the requirements under the Executive Order violate the US Constitution and their religious freedom.

Nearly a dozen workers lodged the lawsuit, naming President Biden and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin as defendants. They want to represent Classes of religious or disabled service members, federal employees, and federal contractors who they say will face “adverse employment status,” be denied necessary accommodations, or be unable to obtain employment with the government due to the requirements of the vaccine mandate.

Biden Vaccine Mandate Issued
Earlier this month, President Biden announced that federal workers, including contractors, would be required to get a COVID-19 vaccination. The US Department of Defense has also issued a vaccine mandate for service members.

“We’ve been patient. But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said at the time.

The Biden vaccine mandate comes after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted official approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in August. Three vaccination options had been granted emergency use authorization by the agency in earlier months; however, after an initial surge, vaccination rates fell off.


The federal workers who filed the class action lawsuit take issue with the requirements of the Biden vaccine mandate, alleging that the Executive Order fails to properly accommodate religious or medical reasons for not wanting the shot.

Workers Fight for Religious, Medical Exemptions to Biden Vaccine Mandate
The plaintiffs say that the vaccine mandate runs counter to laws protecting religious freedom in the United States.

“If a Christian comes to an informed and sure judgment in conscience that he or she should not receive a vaccine, then the Christian faith requires that the person follow this certain judgment of conscience and refuse the vaccine,” states the lawsuit.

The federal workers claim that the Biden vaccine mandate fails to take “natural immunity” gained after infection with the coronavirus into consideration, arguing that such immunity is interchangeable with the COVID-19 vaccination — a claim that has been debunked by the Centers for Disease Control which reported that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than their fully vaccinated counterparts, according to Law360.

The workers want a court order stopping the enforcement of the Biden vaccine mandate, as well as others. They join other military members and first responders in Hawaii who have filed class action lawsuits fighting various COVID-19 vaccination mandates in recent months.


Are you required to get a COVID-19 shot under the Biden vaccine mandate? What do you think of the requirement? Tell us in the comment section below!

The plaintiffs are represented by Michael Alan Yoder of his own law office, and Patrick R. Hollingsworth of Hollingsworth & Hollingsworth APC.

The Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit is Costin et al. v. Biden et al., Case No. 1:21-cv-02484, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

 

2ndAmendican

Veteran Member
I work for a large Defense Contractor and they have mandated that everyone has to be completely vaxxed by November 24 or you're terminated. A lot of people have said they still aren't going to get the jab. We'll see. I'm waiting until the last moment, just in case something happens to reverse the mandate. I know, wishful thinking.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
I posted this as an independent thread yesterday. There are at least 2 class action lawsuits working through the federal court system right now, and both are seeking an emergency injunction against the current vax mandates. Wheels are coming off the narrative left and right.

Liberty Counsel:

U.S. Military Versus Joe Biden
Oct 8, 2021

Read the powerful testimony of one of our clients, a chaplain with the rank of major in the U.S. Army, as we move forward in our class action lawsuit against Joe Biden’s Department of Defense (DOD) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Liberty Counsel will file suit early next week on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors, demanding they have the “option to accept or refuse” the shots and that their religious freedom be honored. —Mat

“Jesus Christ is my Sovereign King and the highest authority in my life. I have actively followed my Lord since a child.” So began the religious exemption request letter our client Joseph*, a chaplain and major in the U.S. Army, delivered to his command last month.

“I have wrestled over the current vaccine mandate until my conscience is completely clear,” wrote Joseph, as he described the hours of research and prayer he dedicated to this decision.

“I cannot consciously and willfully participate in child sacrifice,” wrote the chaplain before laying out the true and inarguable science behind the pharmaceutical industry’s reliance on using aborted children to produce their vaccines.
“For the record, I am not against vaccines per se, but I am unable to violate my true faith and allegiance to Jesus Christ (Exodus 20:1-3) by complicitly taking part in the murder of God’s children (Exodus 20:13), human beings created by God and for God,” Joseph wrote.

“Innocent human life in the womb belongs to God and is sacred (Jeremiah 1:5, Psalm 139:13). My faith prohibits me from participating in or benefiting from any abortion, no matter when the abortion took place.” Joseph went on to point out that some mRNA COVID shots are using the WALVAX-2 fetal tissue line. This line was developed just six years ago, in 2015, using nine babies who were delivered alive in their embryonic sacs, to be dissected while still living for this research.

But Biden does not care about the murdered children sacrificed to “medical progress.” Nor does he care about the religious liberty of this chaplain or any of the more than 5.7 million military personnel, federal employees and civilian contractors he has mandated be punished or fired unless they take the COVID jabs.

What Joe Biden is demanding is as unlawful as it is evil.
Early next week, Liberty Counsel will file a class action lawsuit on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors who are pleading for help against these unlawful decrees.

Civilian contractors are especially important to our national security, as many provide everything from the boots our troops wear to the technology behind the planes our military members fly. Firing them creates a “double whammy” by risking military readiness and national security.

The CDC’s VAERS database, which reflects less than 1% of all shot injuries, shows that as of the latest report, 752,801 people have suffered adverse reactions to the shots.

On June 29, the U.S. military itself published an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association Cardiology (JAMA Cardiology) admitting that the COVID shots are causing myocarditis in military members.

Members of the armed forces are facing dishonorable discharge. Federal employees and civilian contractors face termination.

Liberty Counsel WILL NOT STAND for Biden’s lawless actions.

We file suit early next week against Biden and other defendants on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors.
We need your help as never before. The volume of requests, short time frames and raw emotions involved in each case are unlike anything we have ever experienced.

ALL of the currently available COVID shots, as well as those under development, use the cell lines of aborted babies in the development and/or testing of their vaccines. The chaplain notes that while many try to claim that the fetal tissues used were proffered more than 40 years ago, he wrote that “there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that evil diminishes over time.”



View attachment 295437

Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit Overview:
  • Who: A group of federal employees lodged a class action lawsuit against President Biden and the Secretary of the Department of Defense Thursday.
  • Why: The group says that the recently announced Biden vaccine mandate violates the US Constitution and their religious freedom.
  • Where: The lawsuit is pending in federal court in Washington DC and the plaintiffs want to represent federal workers nationwide.
The recently announced Biden vaccine mandate has drawn a class action lawsuit filed by federal workers, including service members and contractors, who say the requirements under the Executive Order violate the US Constitution and their religious freedom.

Nearly a dozen workers lodged the lawsuit, naming President Biden and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin as defendants. They want to represent Classes of religious or disabled service members, federal employees, and federal contractors who they say will face “adverse employment status,” be denied necessary accommodations, or be unable to obtain employment with the government due to the requirements of the vaccine mandate.

Biden Vaccine Mandate Issued
Earlier this month, President Biden announced that federal workers, including contractors, would be required to get a COVID-19 vaccination. The US Department of Defense has also issued a vaccine mandate for service members.

“We’ve been patient. But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said at the time.

The Biden vaccine mandate comes after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted official approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in August. Three vaccination options had been granted emergency use authorization by the agency in earlier months; however, after an initial surge, vaccination rates fell off.


The federal workers who filed the class action lawsuit take issue with the requirements of the Biden vaccine mandate, alleging that the Executive Order fails to properly accommodate religious or medical reasons for not wanting the shot.

Workers Fight for Religious, Medical Exemptions to Biden Vaccine Mandate
The plaintiffs say that the vaccine mandate runs counter to laws protecting religious freedom in the United States.

“If a Christian comes to an informed and sure judgment in conscience that he or she should not receive a vaccine, then the Christian faith requires that the person follow this certain judgment of conscience and refuse the vaccine,” states the lawsuit.

The federal workers claim that the Biden vaccine mandate fails to take “natural immunity” gained after infection with the coronavirus into consideration, arguing that such immunity is interchangeable with the COVID-19 vaccination — a claim that has been debunked by the Centers for Disease Control which reported that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than their fully vaccinated counterparts, according to Law360.

The workers want a court order stopping the enforcement of the Biden vaccine mandate, as well as others. They join other military members and first responders in Hawaii who have filed class action lawsuits fighting various COVID-19 vaccination mandates in recent months.


Are you required to get a COVID-19 shot under the Biden vaccine mandate? What do you think of the requirement? Tell us in the comment section below!

The plaintiffs are represented by Michael Alan Yoder of his own law office, and Patrick R. Hollingsworth of Hollingsworth & Hollingsworth APC.

The Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit is Costin et al. v. Biden et al., Case No. 1:21-cv-02484, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Best I've seen yet! Actually gives me a glimmer of hope!
 

fish hook

Deceased
Biden said : “We’ve been patient. But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said at the time. I think i know what he meant, his commission, and the profit of the makers of the jab juice have been lowered by our resistance. If for no other reason to resist than this, i call it a good thing
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
DoD civilian here. Just got an email from squadron commander about the vaccine requirement today. I'm going to tell them to pound sand. I'm not taking any shots and I'm not applying for any exemption; I reject the premise that I should beg for my rights. If they fire me they fire me.
I 100% agree with your methodology!
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
I posted this as an independent thread yesterday. There are at least 2 class action lawsuits working through the federal court system right now, and both are seeking an emergency injunction against the current vax mandates. Wheels are coming off the narrative left and right.

Liberty Counsel:

U.S. Military Versus Joe Biden
Oct 8, 2021

Read the powerful testimony of one of our clients, a chaplain with the rank of major in the U.S. Army, as we move forward in our class action lawsuit against Joe Biden’s Department of Defense (DOD) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Liberty Counsel will file suit early next week on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors, demanding they have the “option to accept or refuse” the shots and that their religious freedom be honored. —Mat

“Jesus Christ is my Sovereign King and the highest authority in my life. I have actively followed my Lord since a child.” So began the religious exemption request letter our client Joseph*, a chaplain and major in the U.S. Army, delivered to his command last month.

“I have wrestled over the current vaccine mandate until my conscience is completely clear,” wrote Joseph, as he described the hours of research and prayer he dedicated to this decision.

“I cannot consciously and willfully participate in child sacrifice,” wrote the chaplain before laying out the true and inarguable science behind the pharmaceutical industry’s reliance on using aborted children to produce their vaccines.
“For the record, I am not against vaccines per se, but I am unable to violate my true faith and allegiance to Jesus Christ (Exodus 20:1-3) by complicitly taking part in the murder of God’s children (Exodus 20:13), human beings created by God and for God,” Joseph wrote.

“Innocent human life in the womb belongs to God and is sacred (Jeremiah 1:5, Psalm 139:13). My faith prohibits me from participating in or benefiting from any abortion, no matter when the abortion took place.” Joseph went on to point out that some mRNA COVID shots are using the WALVAX-2 fetal tissue line. This line was developed just six years ago, in 2015, using nine babies who were delivered alive in their embryonic sacs, to be dissected while still living for this research.

But Biden does not care about the murdered children sacrificed to “medical progress.” Nor does he care about the religious liberty of this chaplain or any of the more than 5.7 million military personnel, federal employees and civilian contractors he has mandated be punished or fired unless they take the COVID jabs.

What Joe Biden is demanding is as unlawful as it is evil.
Early next week, Liberty Counsel will file a class action lawsuit on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors who are pleading for help against these unlawful decrees.

Civilian contractors are especially important to our national security, as many provide everything from the boots our troops wear to the technology behind the planes our military members fly. Firing them creates a “double whammy” by risking military readiness and national security.

The CDC’s VAERS database, which reflects less than 1% of all shot injuries, shows that as of the latest report, 752,801 people have suffered adverse reactions to the shots.

On June 29, the U.S. military itself published an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association Cardiology (JAMA Cardiology) admitting that the COVID shots are causing myocarditis in military members.

Members of the armed forces are facing dishonorable discharge. Federal employees and civilian contractors face termination.

Liberty Counsel WILL NOT STAND for Biden’s lawless actions.

We file suit early next week against Biden and other defendants on behalf of military members, federal employees and civilian contractors.
We need your help as never before. The volume of requests, short time frames and raw emotions involved in each case are unlike anything we have ever experienced.

ALL of the currently available COVID shots, as well as those under development, use the cell lines of aborted babies in the development and/or testing of their vaccines. The chaplain notes that while many try to claim that the fetal tissues used were proffered more than 40 years ago, he wrote that “there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that evil diminishes over time.”



View attachment 295437

Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit Overview:
  • Who: A group of federal employees lodged a class action lawsuit against President Biden and the Secretary of the Department of Defense Thursday.
  • Why: The group says that the recently announced Biden vaccine mandate violates the US Constitution and their religious freedom.
  • Where: The lawsuit is pending in federal court in Washington DC and the plaintiffs want to represent federal workers nationwide.
The recently announced Biden vaccine mandate has drawn a class action lawsuit filed by federal workers, including service members and contractors, who say the requirements under the Executive Order violate the US Constitution and their religious freedom.

Nearly a dozen workers lodged the lawsuit, naming President Biden and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin as defendants. They want to represent Classes of religious or disabled service members, federal employees, and federal contractors who they say will face “adverse employment status,” be denied necessary accommodations, or be unable to obtain employment with the government due to the requirements of the vaccine mandate.

Biden Vaccine Mandate Issued
Earlier this month, President Biden announced that federal workers, including contractors, would be required to get a COVID-19 vaccination. The US Department of Defense has also issued a vaccine mandate for service members.

“We’ve been patient. But our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said at the time.

The Biden vaccine mandate comes after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted official approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in August. Three vaccination options had been granted emergency use authorization by the agency in earlier months; however, after an initial surge, vaccination rates fell off.


The federal workers who filed the class action lawsuit take issue with the requirements of the Biden vaccine mandate, alleging that the Executive Order fails to properly accommodate religious or medical reasons for not wanting the shot.

Workers Fight for Religious, Medical Exemptions to Biden Vaccine Mandate
The plaintiffs say that the vaccine mandate runs counter to laws protecting religious freedom in the United States.

“If a Christian comes to an informed and sure judgment in conscience that he or she should not receive a vaccine, then the Christian faith requires that the person follow this certain judgment of conscience and refuse the vaccine,” states the lawsuit.

The federal workers claim that the Biden vaccine mandate fails to take “natural immunity” gained after infection with the coronavirus into consideration, arguing that such immunity is interchangeable with the COVID-19 vaccination — a claim that has been debunked by the Centers for Disease Control which reported that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than their fully vaccinated counterparts, according to Law360.

The workers want a court order stopping the enforcement of the Biden vaccine mandate, as well as others. They join other military members and first responders in Hawaii who have filed class action lawsuits fighting various COVID-19 vaccination mandates in recent months.


Are you required to get a COVID-19 shot under the Biden vaccine mandate? What do you think of the requirement? Tell us in the comment section below!

The plaintiffs are represented by Michael Alan Yoder of his own law office, and Patrick R. Hollingsworth of Hollingsworth & Hollingsworth APC.

The Biden Vaccine Mandate Class Action Lawsuit is Costin et al. v. Biden et al., Case No. 1:21-cv-02484, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

The latest I just heard from our chaplain is that exemptions for this go all the way to SecArmy.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
The latest I just heard from our chaplain is that exemptions for this go all the way to SecArmy.

For us in the Air Force, it goes to the MAJCOM or first 4 star gen. Then once it is denied, when you appeal it goes to the SECAF, where we have been gleefully told it will also be denied. I'm not gonna lie, I am really looking forward to the disappointment some of these people will face if/when the injunction against the mandate goes through and eventually the whole thing is cancelled.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
For us in the Air Force, it goes to the MAJCOM or first 4 star gen. Then once it is denied, when you appeal it goes to the SECAF, where we have been gleefully told it will also be denied. I'm not gonna lie, I am really looking forward to the disappointment some of these people will face if/when the injunction against the mandate goes through and eventually the whole thing is cancelled.
I was thinking first two star in the chain but I guess not.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Both my kids are federal employees
One is USDA the other is logistics and supply
Both are refusing the jab and pushing back waiting hoping this is stopped
My Neice who is faa has already been let go for direct insubordination for refusing the jab
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
For me, Nov 22nd is two weeks after the second shot, I think that will be my last day.
A schedule went out that indicates the first vax for all three should be taken by November 8 in order to be fully vax by November 22.

If you haven't done it by then, the process against you can begin on November 9. Not saying it will start for you on that day, but OPM said it can.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
I heard that the process starts 9 November. I intend to have my reasonable accommodation request in before that. No way will I quit, they will have to fire me.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
If you are a federal employee, and your religious exemption gets denied, contact Liberty Counsel ASAP! There are steps you can take to delay administrative punishments. Instructions are on the website link below and they will guide them through the next steps. Time is of the essence as soon as you recieve your denial!

 
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